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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:47 | schuster | wizzyrea you in? |
| 13:48 | wizzyrea | I am, sup? |
| 13:49 | schuster | What version of Firefox are you all runnin? |
| 13:50 | that's my hick coming out this mornin... | |
| 13:51 | wizzyrea | 3, mostly the latest version but probably some of the minor v3 revisions |
| 13:51 | sneak in there | |
| 13:52 | schuster | OK - we're still on 2.x until this summer - when you print LONG lists of things do they print ok? That is our biggest problem and I believe it to be a FF 2 issue. |
| 13:52 | We are only getting page 1 when a borrower or an item has say 200 items attached... | |
| 13:52 | wizzyrea | 3.0.10 is latest -- I haven't heard any complaints |
| 13:53 | oof! | |
| 13:53 | schuster | Yep major issue right now, but I keep saying it will go away when school starts next year...;) |
| 13:53 | wizzyrea | hee |
| 13:53 | schuster | I hope :( |
| 13:53 | wizzyrea | we're public, people don't *usually* get to 200 items checked out |
| 13:54 | nor do we have many bibs with 200 items | |
| 13:54 | schuster | Are the localized holds working well? - we have teachers that checkout tons of stuff. |
| 13:54 | Our librarians almost all went into arrest and quit when we told them it is shared holds... | |
| 13:54 | wizzyrea | a qualified yes, there are still bugs but they do work |
| 13:55 | schuster | So just to clarify when a borrower places a hold on a book it keeps the hold to that borrowers location... |
| 13:55 | wizzyrea | occasionally you get an item on y our pick list that is local hold, we're not sure why. gmcharlt's working on it though |
| 13:55 | schuster | Are you all using Biblios at all? |
| 13:55 | wizzyrea | opposite... when a book is catalogued it is placed in itemtype Local Hold |
| 13:55 | and only patrons of that "branch" can put hold on it | |
| 13:56 | not yet | |
| 13:56 | soon we hope | |
| 13:56 | so patron of homelibrary1 can place holds on Local Hold items from homeelibrary1 | |
| 13:56 | but if patron from homelibrary2 tries to place a hold on Local Hold items from homelibrary1, it will fail | |
| 13:57 | schuster | So is local hold a field within the item types or a seperate item type all together? did you have to change item types for an entire library that didn't want to share books? |
| 13:57 | wizzyrea | yes, I believe you would have to do that |
| 13:57 | we're all about sharing :P | |
| 13:57 | or have independent branches | |
| 13:58 | we don't have any libraries that don't share, our values dictate that 95% of the collection is open to any patron in NE Kansas | |
| 13:58 | schuster | hmmm... Did LibLime do that for you? - can't do independent branches gets really messy in sharing items and borrowers. I'm all about sharing, but some librarians have this thing about serving their own students first... |
| 13:58 | wizzyrea | yea, it was an enhancement we sponsored |
| 13:59 | it could probably be made better with... MORE MONEY. LOL | |
| 13:59 | (that is, our libraries can hold back 5% of their collections to walk in or local hold only) | |
| 13:59 | schuster | HMMM so you can be all about sharing, but limit some items to just your location... hmmmm... So those lovely vampire books could be local but the rest of the collection available... |
| 14:00 | wizzyrea | (not counting local history or irreplaceable items, of course) |
| 14:00 | schuster | That is a great solution... Hadn't thought about that possibility.. Way cool... |
| 14:00 | wizzyrea | yea, exactly, the vampire books can be held back |
| 14:00 | ;) | |
| 14:00 | or, you can do what some of our libraries do | |
| 14:01 | buy multiple copies of a popular title, share 4 of them, and keep one or two for local patrons | |
| 14:01 | only | |
| 14:01 | not sure how that would work in a school | |
| 14:01 | schuster | We still have 80 holds on the last vampire book - mainly because people don't want to share... so they "ignore" the hold which causes other problems. |
| 14:02 | wizzyrea | it's definitely a paradigm shift for the participating libraries |
| 14:02 | schuster | "Why won't it pull up my hold which is next"... Well because you told it to ignore holds so now Koha thinks it should go on the shelf! |
| 14:02 | wizzyrea | there are also walk in items |
| 14:03 | which means that the person has to physically take the item off of the shelf | |
| 14:03 | the person has to be in the library to check it out | |
| 14:03 | so that = no holds allowed | |
| 14:03 | schuster | You are light years ahead of me on the CSS stuff - I hope at the next conference you share your customizations and that "yes even a library in Kansas can customize it!" Not knocking you praising you! |
| 14:04 | Ah.. neat - we could use that for some of the classroom stuff they don't want to allow holds on during research periods. | |
| 14:05 | wizzyrea | well thank you... I'm still kind of dumb at it but I'm learning. I'm going through the changes I've made to see how many of them should actually go into the project |
| 14:05 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea++ |
| 14:05 | wizzyrea | yes, exactly, that would be a perfect use for the walk in itemtype |
| 14:06 | gmcharlt | (and then put your custom templates under version control, right? ;-) ) |
| 14:06 | schuster | Cool! I'm just trying to figure out what we need to sponsor next! That's my task this week to go through requests and figure out how to prioritize them and figure out how many of them are already in the que or that we need to figure out how much it will cost. |
| 14:06 | gmcharlt - so when will localholds be available to the rest of the Koha community after the bugs are tweaked? with 3.2 or earlier? | |
| 14:07 | gmcharlt | schuster: before 3.2 - a matter of a couple weeks or thereabouts |
| 14:08 | schuster | That's something I'm trying to wrap my head around is when the "enhancements" that are sponsored are released... The October 3.2 release is after school starts so I am trying to figure out what I need to focus on for when school starts again in August to show the librarians that Koha IS the way still and not one of the other school CKO systems... |
| 14:08 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt: yes, I would love to do that |
| 14:08 | schuster | gmcharlt - way cool! I'll keep looking for it... |
| 14:08 | wizzyrea | will need some heavy git tutorial however lol |
| 14:09 | http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]e_statements2.pdf if you're interested schuster | |
| 14:09 | OH I did not mean to do that | |
| 14:09 | >.> | |
| 14:10 | maybe only my client actually shows the document... | |
| 14:10 | schuster | Anyone able to speak about the URL-Checker that came with 3.01.00.014 |
| 14:11 | wizzyrea | not it |
| 14:12 | (aside) I really want there to be a editable syspref for the detail page of the opac, the right hand column should be editable | |
| 14:12 | user editable( | |
| 14:12 | don't know why that came up just now | |
| 14:13 | schuster | URLs checker enhancement (bug #2959 ) - is what I'm refering to. |
| 14:16 | OK guess not maybe I'll put it on the Dev list to see if there are any takers... I don't see it documented anywhere. But my wife tells me that I miss LOTS of stuff as I often skim! | |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | whoa lol |
| 16:45 | pianohacker | Hi, liz |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | hey :) |
| 16:48 | pianohacker | What's going on? |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | netsplit or something |
| 17:20 | pianohacker | brb |
| 19:39 | _eric_b | chris, is there a way to get an email notification when new strings have to be translated? |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | whatever happened to the koha forum idea? I'm looking back through the list, and I've wondered myself why we don't have RSS enabled forums in addition to/sync'd with the email lists |
| 20:03 | gmcharlt | matter of preference, I suppose |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | the last discussion I see of the matter said "use thunderbird, sort threaded" |
| 20:04 | which is good enough I suppose. | |
| 20:06 | gmcharlt | the big question is when would you post to a forum as opposed to sending an email |
| 20:06 | and I'd be concerned about the discussion getting split up | |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | yea, I thought the same thing. I think forums are a little easier for nubs to navigate |
| 20:08 | but only a little | |
| 20:09 | would be cool if there was a simultaneous forum <--> email sync | |
| 20:10 | then it wouldn't matter how you interacted with it | |
| 20:11 | dk, was just curious | |
| 20:49 | _eric_b | Is there a function providing the htdocs directory to used based on the selected language? |
| 20:51 | chris | morning |
| 20:52 | rhcl | afternoon |
| 20:52 | chris | _eric_b: like when they have been suggested? |
| 20:52 | not that i know of, but i could probably whack something up to do that | |
| 20:53 | _eric_b | chris, no, I just needed to know. I though about using this to localize the XSLT. |
| 20:53 | chris | using it to localise the XSLT would be cool, we just need to create .po files from the XSLT |
| 20:54 | the nice thing with pootle is you can download the .po, translate and upload it back and it will merge with others translations | |
| 20:54 | so you don't have to use the web interface to translate | |
| 20:55 | if you do want to try it out, let me know, and ill make a new xslt project that you can try it with | |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea: you can use markmail | |
| 20:59 | or gmane | |
| 20:59 | http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha | |
| 21:00 | it lets you reply from there | |
| 21:00 | http://comments.gmane.org/gman[…]p.misc.koha/14197 | |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | oh that's neat, I didn't realize youcould post there as well |
| 21:05 | problem solved :) | |
| 21:05 | pianohacker | Hmm |
| 21:05 | chris | i kinda like how it fakes being a blog :) |
| 21:05 | pianohacker | It seems we've all won "The Fat One" lottery |
| 21:06 | chris | we have? |
| 21:06 | i know i ate a bit too much in texas, but that's just mean | |
| 21:06 | richard | morning |
| 21:06 | chris | hiya richard |
| 21:15 | rhcl | Liz, you getting wet? It's gushing here. |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | oh... you mean rain |
| 21:15 | rhcl | Well, uh, yea. ?? |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | um, it's sprinkling |
| 21:15 | LOL sorry | |
| 21:16 | KIDDING only kidding | |
| 21:16 | rhcl | OK, I had to look up gushing. |
| 21:17 | Here's what I ment: gush v. gushed, gush·ing, gush·es v.. To flow forth suddenly in great volume: water gushing from a hydrant. | |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | lol I'm familiar |
| 21:17 | rhcl | But, uh, yea, there is another meaning I see. |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | and I"ve been misreading lots of things today |
| 21:18 | so... sorry | |
| 21:18 | but yes, sprinkling rain here | |
| 21:19 | geographically, we're in a spot that storms tend to go around | |
| 21:19 | rhcl | I also meant meant instead of ment. |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | of course :) |
| 21:29 | brendan | Yeah - we all win the big bucks! |
| 21:29 | what an open source project! | |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | later on folks |
| 22:10 | chris | those ones are hard to stop, when someone is subscribed to the list to send it |
| 22:54 | hey ccatalfo | |
| 22:54 | ccatalfo | evening! |
| 22:55 | chris | you still doing much work on biblios? |
| 23:11 | ccatalfo | chris: I haven't done much work on it since I joined LT but I have some things in mind I plan on starting on one of these evenings |
| 23:11 | chris | sweet ;) |
| 23:13 | ccatalfo | also trying to finally take a look at Koha and submit a few little things here and there to learn the codebase a bit better |
| 23:14 | chris | cool, i saw a couple of patches from you go past |
| 23:23 | ccatalfo | chris: you're excited to be working on koha again? |
| 23:23 | chris | yeah its fun, mostly doing data munging at this stage but getting time to do some patches too |
| 03:22 | Amit_G | Amit_G is Amit |
| 03:28 | hi brendan, chris, mason | |
| 03:30 | Jo | hi Amit |
| 03:37 | brendan | hi Amit_G |
| 03:38 | Amit_G | hi brendan i m Amit |
| 03:38 | hi Jo morning | |
| 04:45 | mason | afternoon all |
| 04:55 | richard | bob u about? |
| 04:55 | oops wrong # | |
| 04:56 | hi mason | |
| 05:57 | Amit_G | hi mason |
| 06:08 | chris | hi hdl_laptop and laurence |
| 06:08 | hdl_laptop | hi chris |
| 06:08 | laurence | hi chris |
| 06:13 | nicomo | hi all |
| 06:14 | chris | hi nicomo no meetings today? |
| 06:14 | nicomo | :-) |
| 06:14 | none whatsoever | |
| 06:14 | what a relief | |
| 06:15 | meetings and gloomy hotel rooms are the scurges of this job | |
| 06:20 | Amit_G | hi chris: http://www.osslabs.biz/koha_li[…]em/resources.html |
| 07:47 | chris | evening all |
| 07:47 | Amit_G | hi kf |
| 07:48 | chris | cool amit |
| 07:53 | hdl_laptop | chris: few strings have changed since yesterday, but there has been changes. |
| 07:53 | chris | hmm opac or intranet or both? |
| 07:56 | kf | hi koha# - came back to work today - still reading mails and koha mailing lists |
| 07:56 | hi Amit | |
| 08:00 | hdl_laptop | intranet mostly |
| 08:01 | (history file for instance, but also one string in circulation) | |
| 08:04 | chris | k, ill update all the translation files |
| 08:04 | but maybe not tonight | |
| 08:05 | hdl_laptop | sorry |
| 08:05 | chris | its ok :) |
| 09:51 | :) | |
| 09:51 | we have called the midwife, wait and home and see if the contractions get stronger | |
| 09:52 | laurel is playing tetris and im looking at koha bugs to distract from worrying :) | |
| 09:57 | SelfishMan | heh |
| 09:59 | kf | chris: hope everything goes well |
| 10:01 | chris | it might still be a false alarm, waiting and seeing :) kahu was 5 weeks early though, and its now 3 weeks til due date ... so who knows :) |
| 10:06 | fredericd | chris: You make me nervous. I'd prefer not to have read that... |
| 10:06 | chris | heh, you have one coming too fredericd ? |
| 10:08 | fredericd | Not as I know. My house is full. |
| 10:09 | chris | ah nothing to be nervous about then :-) |
| 10:13 | fredericd | just ampathy and recollection... |
| 10:14 | chris | ahhh :) |
| 10:14 | its less scary this time, at least i have some idea whats going on, last time we had no bags packed or anything i was running round like in circles | |
| 10:15 | hdl_laptop | what would a woman say then ;) |
| 10:15 | nicomo | yep : and I hope you've had all the sleep you needed until today ;-) |
| 10:15 | gmcharlt | hi all |
| 10:15 | nicomo | hi gmcharlt |
| 10:15 | gmcharlt | chris: my best wishes to you and laurel |
| 10:16 | chris | hi gmcharlt, you are awake early |
| 10:16 | thanks | |
| 10:17 | gmcharlt | you have a funny way of relaxing - looking at koha bugs? ;) |
| 10:18 | chris | well not relaxing, just a way to not sit there asking laurel "is it getting worse?" every 2 minutes until she gets angry :) |
| 10:18 | gmcharlt | ha! |
| 10:23 | fredericd | chris: all the best for your bug tracking :) and more as required |
| 10:25 | chris | thank you, they seem to be easing off, so it might have just been braxton hicks contractions, we might try to get some sleep |
| 10:25 | have a good day all | |
| 10:28 | gmcharlt | you too |
| 10:42 | Amit_G | hi gmcharlt |
| 10:42 | gmcharlt | hi Amit_G |
| 10:43 | Amit_G | i m amit |
| 10:46 | paul_p | hi chris (& al) |
| 10:46 | gmcharlt | hi paul_p |
| 11:38 | jwagner | Trying to catch people in non-US timezones -- question about patron registration. Do any sites (esp non-US sites) use the initials field in the patron record for other than middle initials, like Q in John Q. Public? I'm contemplating a minor screen change/relabelling, and don't know whether to keep it local or send to community. |
| 11:39 | Amit_G | hi jwagner |
| 11:40 | jwagner | Hi Amit |
| 11:42 | paul_p | hi jwagner: to answer your question = I never saw a french library using "initials" field |
| 11:45 | jwagner | Thanks, Paul. I _think_ the field is meant for middle initials, but wanted to see if there was any other usage of it. |
| 11:45 | kf | hi jane, we do not plan on using it |
| 11:46 | I thought it would be lake jw for jane wagner - but didn't know where to use it | |
| 11:48 | jwagner | kf, that's what I wasn't sure if -- if some libraries might interpret the field to use for full-name initials (or other purposes). |
| 11:54 | kf | but I have no idea where you could use this information - perhaps reports? notices? middle name initials could also be witten in surname directly? |
| 11:55 | jwagner | It's more a tidiness issue -- rather than have firstname field contain John Q., it should be firstname John, initials Q. |
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