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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:23 | mason | back... |
| 16:36 | wizzyrea | where does koha load the jquery framework from? |
| 16:36 | pianohacker | It's stored internally |
| 16:36 | wizzyrea | reeeeallly |
| 16:36 | pianohacker | intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/ |
| 16:37 | wizzyrea | hm. Ok thanks :) |
| 16:37 | pianohacker | np |
| 16:37 | What's going on? | |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | I have everything in place to show the link to place holds, but it's not showing |
| 16:38 | http://nekls.kohalibrary.com/c[…].pl?viewshelf=239 | |
| 16:38 | multiple holds, that is | |
| 16:38 | I'm wondering if there's something gone funny with jquery, but I don't think that's the case now | |
| 16:39 | at least I'm *pretty sure* it's not the case | |
| 16:39 | pianohacker | It's not showing for me either; should it be in a cell at the end of each table row? |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | yea, it should be |
| 16:39 | what's even weirder | |
| 16:39 | is that 3 weeks ago we did the same thing on our test server | |
| 16:39 | and it was showing up | |
| 16:39 | and now... it's not | |
| 16:39 | but I haven't changed anything | |
| 16:39 | on test | |
| 16:39 | it's just... gone | |
| 16:40 | we have a screenshot of it being there... 1s I'll link | |
| 16:40 | http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]re-13-300x110.png | |
| 16:41 | neither the checkboxes or the link are there, but the code is identical (afaik) | |
| 16:43 | pianohacker | There are two very similar tables built up to display lists, based on (I think) whether you can edit the list or not. Could that be it? |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | i'm frankly flummoxed |
| 16:45 | I took the template straight from git | |
| 16:45 | so either there's something wrong with the underlying code (which I don't have access to) or I'm losing my min | |
| 16:45 | mind* | |
| 16:45 | or there's something else | |
| 16:49 | pianohacker | Has to be something weird with the code, since the RequestOnOPAC syspref is obviously enabled. |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | yea, and it shows on the other places: the results list |
| 17:00 | the cart | |
| 17:01 | i've moved on for now... such a weird problem | |
| 18:44 | atz: have a sec (or two?) | |
| 18:44 | atz | ? |
| 18:46 | lol "smut" list | |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | hehe that's sharon's doing |
| 18:46 | Sharon | guilty as charged |
| 18:47 | atz | wizzyrea: using jquery? what's the command |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | i just sent u a pm |
| 19:12 | atz | btw, #koha, i posted the slides from my KohaCon presentations |
| 19:16 | gmcharlt | atz++ |
| 19:23 | chris | yay for slides |
| 19:37 | Sharon | is there anything in the works permission-wise to make changing the SET library more difficult? Staffers 'accidently' changing libraries are messin' up my stats and irritating me greatly. |
| 19:37 | gmcharlt | Sharon: actually, yes |
| 19:37 | pianohacker1 | $ rm circ/selectbranchprinter.pl # :) |
| 19:37 | gmcharlt | for WALDO |
| 19:37 | Sharon | thank god almight |
| 19:37 | y | |
| 19:38 | gmcharlt | or you could thank atz :) |
| 19:38 | Sharon | joe, god, whoever ;-) |
| 19:38 | chris | does the logging log when someone changes the library? |
| 19:38 | pianohacker1 | I though the server admins were god |
| 19:38 | Sharon | i'm just happy to hear it! |
| 19:38 | chris | cos you could go punch them in the arm each time they did it |
| 19:38 | would probably stop it pretty fast | |
| 19:39 | Sharon | Chris I don't know, but I wish I did b/c I would (but then, I'm a bit cranky at the moment) |
| 19:39 | chris | im cranky only because its 7.42am and im awake hehe |
| 19:39 | pianohacker | Sharon: Do your libraries use AutoLocation? |
| 19:40 | Sharon | Let me check |
| 19:40 | pianohacker | Would only work if they have fixed IP addresses, of course |
| 19:40 | Sharon | pianohacker no, that is off |
| 19:42 | Liz says we have fixed IP at *most* of our branches, but not all...which is probably why it's off | |
| 19:43 | pianohacker | Actually, I think the IP address field for the branch is a regex, so in _theory_ you could set it to .* for the libraries with non-fixed IPs |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | I run (among other things) a statewide proxy for internet filtering, we do that a lot |
| 19:43 | but you'd be amazed at how many subnets some ISP's have | |
| 19:43 | and how often they change | |
| 19:43 | pianohacker | hehe |
| 19:44 | Qwest in Colorado is particularly bad that way | |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | simply ludicrous |
| 20:05 | schuster | question about sql - should know but can't figure out the syntax |
| 20:05 | I need to find items not like eq and per ... | |
| 20:06 | I can get <> 'eq' but how do I put 2 items in that "don't want" type statement? | |
| 20:06 | Sharon | != maybe? |
| 20:06 | pianohacker | Are you trying to filter out items of a given type from a report? |
| 20:07 | schuster | Yes... 2 different type of items eq and per from all the rest |
| 20:07 | I have tried <> 'eq, per' but that doesn't work, and not like 'eq, per' doesn't work either | |
| 20:07 | pianohacker | So itemtype != 'eq' AND itemtype != 'per' ? |
| 20:09 | schuster | well huh... I was trying to find an easier way than what you suggested I guess.... That works. |
| 20:09 | Thanks! | |
| 20:09 | pianohacker | np, good luck |
| 20:17 | danny | schuster: i think you can also do it like itemtype NOT IN ('eq','per') |
| 20:26 | schuster | danny - that's what I was looking for yep thanks |
| 20:30 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: re your latest patch |
| 20:31 | I actually made that exact same modification for our library, but I think it should probably have a syspref associated with it | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | Hm. What would that be controlling exactly? |
| 20:34 | the syspref | |
| 20:34 | what do you "see" | |
| 20:34 | pianohacker | The print->close javascript snippet |
| 20:34 | This is just an idea; I think the patch is worth accepting as is | |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | no no I like ideas :) |
| 20:35 | so it would be "auto print reciepts ON or OFF?" | |
| 20:35 | or somesuch? | |
| 20:35 | pianohacker | Exactly |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | Ah. |
| 20:35 | well it's not *truly* automatic | |
| 20:35 | pianohacker | Would be a useful one to turn off on dev installs when tweaking the appearance of the receipt |
| 20:35 | Well no | |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | you still have to click "print slip" |
| 20:36 | and if you don't have the accompanying FF config change it won't autoprint it | |
| 20:36 | you can still see it | |
| 20:36 | (and not waste a lot of paper) | |
| 20:36 | but it would be handy | |
| 20:36 | pianohacker | Maybe "Automatically print checkout receipts when they are shown"? |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | I like it, I do |
| 20:38 | I'm not smrt enough to write that though ;) | |
| 20:38 | but *you* are ^.^ | |
| 20:39 | pianohacker | Oh, but this could be your opportunity to dive into the sysprefs code! You'd have such fun |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | You're such an optimist. Love it. |
| 20:39 | pianohacker | Hehehe |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | I'm still learning git, a strange fantasy forest of learning on its own |
| 20:40 | pianohacker | No kidding |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | well, I do think that in public libraries that's probably a fairly universal desire, to print the slips "automagically" when you click print slip |
| 20:41 | pianohacker | True |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | i know it is in ours, anyway |
| 20:41 | pianohacker | Ours too |
| 20:42 | We almost had a staff revolt when I accidentally removed that code | |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | :O |
| 20:42 | IT"S NOT PRINTING OUR SLIPS OMG OMG | |
| 20:42 | :D | |
| 20:42 | not to give you flashbacks | |
| 20:42 | pianohacker | Ah, you _do_ work in the IT field |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | oh do i ever. |
| 20:44 | chris | heh |
| 20:45 | i need to refactor and get the totally automagic printing slips back in | |
| 20:45 | as part of hlt upgrading | |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | would that work on hosted systems? |
| 20:45 | the way you're thinking of it? | |
| 20:45 | chris | depends |
| 20:45 | gmcharlt | chris: the lpr stuff? |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | b/c the old unix printer way doesn't really work with hosted systems. I mean, you COULD do it |
| 20:46 | chris | if the hosting system could talk to the printers then yep, but no not easily |
| 20:46 | we do it at RDL | |
| 20:46 | over dsl lines | |
| 20:46 | but yeah it would need to be covered by a syspref | |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | yikes! I bow to you sir. |
| 20:46 | chris | you can do anything with ssh tunnels :) |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | I didn't really want to go there with our system |
| 20:46 | chris | yeah, yours is on a biggers scale |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | it's one thing when you have one or two branches that you have total control over |
| 20:47 | chris | rdl only cover about 500km |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | but 20-30 libraries, all independent with their own IT folks... not so much |
| 20:47 | chris | yep, so wanna put it back in so it works for them, and doesnt get in the way of you gus |
| 20:47 | guys even | |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | I actually kind of like it the way it is |
| 20:48 | total automagic is nice too | |
| 20:48 | but is kind of nice to not *have* to print a receipt every time | |
| 20:48 | some of our more green minded libraries ignore it altogether | |
| 20:48 | chris | yep |
| 20:48 | gmcharlt | or use email receipts |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | I don't think we have that yet, gmcharlt, but yea, or that |
| 20:49 | chris | thats the thing with koha, it should be able to work the way you want it to work |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | (is so beautiful) |
| 20:49 | chris | not the way some dude in an office 10000km away thinks your library should work |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 20:49 | gmcharlt | and stay out of your way if you don't want it to work in a particular way |
| 20:50 | chris | *nod* |
| 20:50 | hmm i hear "daddy daddy" | |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | Runn! |
| 20:50 | chris | nearly 9am .. thats a record sleep in |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt: good question for envisionware |
| 20:54 | i'll forward that on to the tech in ottawa | |
| 20:54 | thanks | |
| 20:55 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: if the game of telephone gets too bad, we have contacts at envisionware |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | k cool |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: re SC 4326 (SIP2 & load balancing), was your email directed at us or the person at Ottaw? |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | for the person at ottawa, I wanted you to know where that was at |
| 20:57 | re: sip instability | |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | ok, thanks for clarifying |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | you can kind of file it or attach it to annother ticket re: sip instability |
| 20:57 | up2u | |
| 20:58 | I'm pretty sure that it's his device that's causing the problem | |
| 20:58 | oi, sorry you have to dig through all of my drivel | |
| 20:59 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: Under the old unix-based printing system, you didn't _have_ to print a slip; it just printed one when you scanned an empty barcode (i.e., submitted the checkout form with nothing in the barcode field) |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | ah I see, clever |
| 20:59 | pianohacker | Apparently hlt had a card or widget or _something_ with a blank barcode on it that they could scan |
| 21:00 | chris | yep |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | yea, i suppose you could use any barcode as long as you told koha what it aws |
| 21:00 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I've closed 4326 - obv can reopen if it tuning their load balancer doesn't do the trick |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | was* |
| 21:00 | chris | just a barcode |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt: cool |
| 21:01 | chris | does envisionware still need some middleware between the scanner and the ils? |
| 21:02 | soul9 | SelfishMan, the very same? :) |
| 21:03 | SelfishMan | yep |
| 21:03 | There are a few others in here that can be found in the other channel | |
| 21:03 | soul9 | cheers :) |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | they are using it only for computer management, chris |
| 21:03 | soul9 | oh? |
| 21:03 | i guess linode is a pretty good deal, eh? | |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | so IDK about the whole middleware bit |
| 21:04 | n/a in our situation | |
| 21:04 | chris | wizzyrea: ahhh yeah HLT looked at that (pc management) |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | it seems to work, with a few caveats |
| 21:04 | SelfishMan | soul9: yep, linode and koha have made most of my life and work easier |
| 21:05 | soul9 | cool :) |
| 21:05 | linode is definitely great | |
| 21:05 | ;) | |
| 21:05 | not that i'm saying koha is bad at all | |
| 21:05 | gmcharlt | that's it - out of the channel NOW!!! ;) |
| 21:06 | chris | heh |
| 21:06 | gmcharlt | I agree, though, that linode is pretty spiffy |
| 21:07 | soul9 | yep, and the newark datcenter is quite usable from europe too.. |
| 21:08 | chris | xen rules |
| 21:08 | soul9 | :) |
| 21:12 | gmcharlt | si: could you op me - channel needs its title back |
| 21:21 | chris: would you mind expanding on commit message of your patch to opac/opac-account.pl and resubmitting | |
| 21:21 | as submitted, it leaves the reader hanging ;) | |
| 21:28 | chris | can do |
| 21:30 | Subject: [PATCH] Adding warnings, fixing a bug that meant the title of an item that had a fine was never printed | |
| 21:30 | stupid newline :) | |
| 21:30 | my bad, will fix | |
| 21:32 | right kahu is eating porridge and watching the replay of last nights rugby game, my work here is done | |
| 21:33 | that should give me about 10 mins to fix the patch, before he finishes :) | |
| 21:33 | gmcharlt | type! type like the wind! |
| 21:34 | chris | hehe |
| 21:35 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 21:37 | chris | resent |
| 21:40 | am i right in remembering ryan is doing work on the accounts/money stuff in koha? | |
| 21:42 | gmcharlt | chris: he has been, and I've been working on it too |
| 21:42 | chris | cool |
| 21:43 | one of the things i have on my list is the daily reconciliation report | |
| 21:43 | Sharon | That's great to hear...our librarians are chomping for that very report |
| 21:47 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: does ryan have a code-level spec for the changes he's making? I'm kind of interested, since my library also wants changes to the fines system. |
| 21:49 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: I can put together what was used and add to the RFC page |
| 21:49 | will take me a day or two to gather it together | |
| 21:49 | chris | that would rule, ill use that as a base to do an rfc for daily reconciliation |
| 21:49 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: Not a problem, just idle curiosity |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | not meaning to be a naysayer... didn't we decide to use bugzilla for enhancement stuff? Or maybe reference the bugzilla entry to the RFC page of the wiki? |
| 21:50 | at kohacon? | |
| 21:50 | or did I misunderstand | |
| 21:51 | (not trying to be fly in the ointment... probably failing) | |
| 21:51 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: bugzilla for the changes, sure, but it's not the best place to stick lengthy documentation of architectural changes |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | k |
| 21:51 | chris | bugzilla with a link to the rfc on the wiki ftw |
| 21:51 | :) | |
| 21:51 | Sharon | compromise...kumbiya |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | I just don't want ppls to expect to see something one place and then find it's somewhere else. there are some militant koha users. |
| 21:52 | ^.^ | |
| 21:53 | gmcharlt | umm - who hopefully will allow for things to be ramped up? |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | yessir, I would hope they can be patient. |
| 21:53 | :D | |
| 21:55 | chris | :) |
| 21:55 | i can show them the example of ed sharpe | |
| 21:55 | its a good lesson on what happens when ppl push to hard :-) | |
| 21:55 | gmcharlt | who's ed sharpe? |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | O.o dare I ask?/ |
| 21:57 | chris | in the early history of koha 2001/2002 someone who persisted in asking about lccn almost constantly, which meant everyone who at one time was interested in helping ... didnt :-) |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | /nod a good lesson |
| 21:58 | I take it he's not around anymore | |
| 21:59 | gmcharlt | evidently not :) |
| 21:59 | chris | You have to have koha have the |
| 21:59 | ability to use that information for those of us in the upper educational and | |
| 21:59 | scientific community AND NOT HAVE IT SHOWING DEWEY! | |
| 22:00 | gmcharlt | to which one obvious response is, what is the library that UIUC, chopped meat? |
| 22:00 | chris | "but do it on your own time, i wont help with the spec, or pay anyone ill just yell at you" |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | sounds charming |
| 22:01 | gmcharlt | (UIUC being the largest library in US that uses Dewey, and not exactly a "lower" education institution) |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | ok, if I don't talk to you all, have a lovely (continue having, in some cases;) weekend |
| 22:01 | chris | ahh :) |
| 22:01 | you too wizzyrea | |
| 22:01 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: you doo |
| 22:01 | *too | |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea_wkend | HA |
| 22:02 | Tootles. | |
| 22:02 | (Take THAT, character limit!) | |
| 22:05 | gmcharlt | lol |
| 22:40 | chris | ohh another committer |
| 22:41 | just after i sent a ptach for colin i shoulda waited longer hehe | |
| 22:42 | gmcharlt | chris: it's OK to stack the patches to docs/history.txt |
| 22:42 | chris | true, unlikely to have any conflicts |
| 22:43 | i figure people like to see themselves added | |
| 22:43 | gmcharlt | of course |
| 22:43 | no I meant something else | |
| 22:43 | the other day you had sent a patch for Lenora's SQL repo, and a second for Liz | |
| 22:44 | but both were against the same startpoint | |
| 22:44 | I'm saying that a sequence would have been fine | |
| 22:44 | chris | ahh i getcha |
| 22:44 | will do | |
| 22:48 | ill resurrect my documentation branch and do them there so i dont get out of sequence | |
| 22:50 | http://notatech.wordpress.com/[…]1/follow-any-day/ | |
| 22:51 | gmcharlt | nice |
| 22:59 | set 'em up, knock 'em down - xt/author/valid-templates.t now tests cleanly as of last patch I sent | |
| 23:06 | pianohacker | be back soon |
| 23:39 | chris | awesome |
| 00:13 | i see you just added your library to kohausers pianohacker :) | |
| 00:14 | pianohacker | First in colorado |
| 00:14 | chris | yup |
| 00:17 | pianohacker | Thanks for the reminder |
| 00:18 | Page is kind of humorous, "Looking at 1.2.5" | |
| 00:18 | chris | :) |
| 00:18 | i like one of hte pakistan libraries too | |
| 00:18 | 3.00.01 has been deployed on Debian and in operation -Thanks God. | |
| 00:27 | wow i didnt know roche were using koha in australia | |
| 00:28 | they are pretty huge! | |
| 00:33 | http://www.roche.com/index.htm | |
| 00:41 | pianohacker | Oh wow, that is serious |
| 03:09 | brendan | good evening #koha |
| 04:43 | pianohacker | good night koha |
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