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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:05 | christian | bonjour |
| 12:06 | bonjour | |
| 13:06 | cait2 | good morning galen |
| 13:07 | gmcharlt | hi cait2 - how are you? |
| 13:07 | cait2 | fine, thx. following git you were busy yesterday - enjoy watching it :) |
| 13:09 | slef | hi all |
| 13:10 | cait2 | hi slef |
| 13:10 | slef | is this getting used much for the dev sessions? |
| 13:11 | chris | a bit slef |
| 13:14 | slef | "This Account Has Been Suspended" http://librariansmatter.com/blog/ |
| 13:16 | chris | yeah, bluehost is having issues |
| 13:16 | davi | hi |
| 13:16 | chris | and kathryn is near you now, well nearer, in london |
| 13:16 | slef | coo. For long? |
| 13:18 | chris | i think only a few days |
| 13:19 | slef | shame... I'm pretty booked again :( |
| 13:21 | gmcharlt | hi slef |
| 13:24 | hackfest: pushed patches for 2336, 2363, 1731 - thanks paul_p | |
| 13:24 | hackfest: pushed another patch for 1545 - thanks chris | |
| 13:24 | hackfest: pushed OPAC focus CSS patch - thanks owen | |
| 13:49 | hackfest: pushed patches for 3102, 2338, 3136 | |
| 14:07 | tips and tricks being discussed at dev meeting | |
| 14:08 | nengard is taking notes and will post later, but some highlights | |
| 14:08 | * chris; running 'git gc' as part of creating a branch makes switching to branches to faster | |
| 14:08 | * screen (atz via kados and chris) | |
| 14:09 | * useful FireFox extensions for Koha development | |
| 14:09 | hackfast: pushed patches for bugs 3138 and 3139 - thanks nengard | |
| 14:14 | chris | http://betterthangrep.com/ |
| 14:14 | (ack ... which i use more than grep) | |
| 14:37 | nengard | http://blogs.liblime.com/devel[…]-koha-developers/ |
| 14:37 | chris | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]devweekendprogram |
| 14:37 | please edit and add things to this | |
| 14:47 | hello kansas :) | |
| 14:56 | liz_nekls_ | hiyas! |
| 14:58 | o lol not talking to me | |
| 15:00 | chris | hehe actually i was, just got distractied |
| 15:01 | pianohacker | fickle |
| 15:02 | chris | heh |
| 15:02 | hey liz_nekls_ :) we just finished a bugzilla session | |
| 15:02 | gmcharlt | hi liz_nekls_ |
| 15:03 | liz_nekls_ | i figured y'all were busy. Sad I missed it. |
| 15:03 | :D | |
| 15:03 | (oi, still speaking texan) | |
| 15:04 | Sharon_ | good morning |
| 15:04 | nengard | morning |
| 15:05 | did you two see bug 1545 :) the fixes are awesome!!!! | |
| 15:05 | liz_nekls_ | i know! I saw that it was done, of course we won't see it for a while on our system |
| 15:05 | but OMG so awesome | |
| 15:06 | will save us so much time | |
| 15:06 | SQUEEE! | |
| 15:06 | chris | heh |
| 15:06 | nengard | liz_nekls_ just nag ryan and gmcharlt :) hehe maybe they can get it to you in the next batch of fixes |
| 15:06 | Sharon_ | I second Liz's squee |
| 15:07 | liz_nekls_ | >.> they love it when we nag |
| 15:09 | Sharon_ | have fun all...and safe journeys to anyone traveling today/tomorrow. |
| 15:09 | pianohacker | Sharon_: Thanks |
| 15:09 | gmcharlt: Do you know much about the itemcallnumber syspref? Seems like an ancestor of kohalink | |
| 15:10 | liz_nekls_ | i think 3102 was one that I had fixed special in our templates, so thank brendan for me |
| 15:10 | will further lead us toward the goal of (and this will make ppl here happy) no custom templates | |
| 15:11 | brendan | heya liz_nekls_ |
| 15:12 | liz_nekls_ | oh hai! |
| 15:15 | nengard | Zotero bug I mentioned: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2432 would love to see this fixed |
| 15:27 | nahuel | for me this one |
| 15:28 | nengard, zotero doesn't work in xsl ? | |
| 15:31 | nengard | nahuel - nope ... |
| 15:32 | nahuel see here: http://nce.dev.kohalibrary.com[…]?biblionumber=725 there is no zotero icon in the address bar | |
| 15:32 | and I have XSL on | |
| 15:36 | nahuel | ok |
| 15:49 | nengard | just submitted my second template patch :) a little nerve-racking since it's so new to me |
| 15:54 | looking at pianohacker's new way of handling system preference definitions!! Love it!! | |
| 15:55 | slef | nengard: can we see it? |
| 15:55 | nengard | slef -- not sure -- i can take pictures |
| 15:56 | slef | nengard: thanks. Did I miss a post or were there no kohacon streams or recordings? |
| 15:56 | nengard | slef they did record the talks - but I don't think they're uploaded anywhere yet |
| 15:56 | chris | there were video camera's in most (if not all) sessions |
| 15:57 | s/\'//; | |
| 15:57 | nengard | there were some blog posts and twitter and other aggregators of the conference |
| 15:57 | i posted one | |
| 15:57 | slef | I've seen some slideshares, blogs and microblogs |
| 15:57 | which were pretty interesting | |
| 15:57 | but I've been spoiled by the debian and apache conferences I guess ;) | |
| 15:57 | nengard | slef - here's my stuff: http://blogs.liblime.com/open-[…]/category/kohacon |
| 15:57 | gonna upload the image now | |
| 15:58 | slef | tyvm |
| 15:59 | nengard | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3455415425/ not sure if it does it justice, but it's a sneak peak |
| 16:00 | slef | ah, it gets rid of the "Edit" step? |
| 16:00 | that would be good | |
| 16:00 | liz_nekls_ | |
| 16:00 | did you see the notes at lyb | |
| 16:00 | slef | is there one big "Save" button at the end? |
| 16:00 | liz_nekls_ | did you see the notes at lybrarian.wordpress.com |
| 16:00 | slef | I've seen very little about this yet |
| 16:01 | liz_nekls_ | lol, kiddo says hi |
| 16:01 | nengard | slef no save button - i missed how it saves |
| 16:01 | also the text is all in a file instead of the DB - so you can edit it | |
| 16:01 | danny | yes, slef there is one big Save All button at the end, i saw it |
| 16:01 | nengard | thanks danny |
| 16:01 | slef | looking now... sysprefs are one of the hardest things for librarians IME, so I get a bit worried by changes to it |
| 16:01 | nengard | slef he also grouped them |
| 16:01 | liz_nekls_ | ooh, pianohacker was busy |
| 16:01 | nengard | you can't see it on this page |
| 16:01 | on this image i should say | |
| 16:02 | when he's done talking he might be able to tell you more :) | |
| 16:03 | slef | (reading notes) RFID and EDI only in 3.4? We've RFID running in a basic form in 3.0 and we're working on EDI although publishers are a bottleneck so probably 3.4 is about right for that. |
| 16:04 | nengard | slef which notes said that? |
| 16:05 | about RFID? | |
| 16:05 | slef | http://lybrarian.wordpress.com[…]on09-and-koha-32/ |
| 16:05 | gmcharlt | slef: yeah, RFID (particularly qua SIP2) is already there - look forward to your patches as well |
| 16:06 | slef | gmcharlt: when at least one of our new workers is in, I should have time to sync up to 3.0 branch and submit patches |
| 16:06 | gmcharlt | slef: cool |
| 16:06 | slef | gmcharlt: I assume we're OK using Danish model until the ISO standard settles? |
| 16:07 | (I think 3M, 2CQR and TagStar all use it) | |
| 16:07 | gmcharlt | slef: yes |
| 16:07 | slef | cool |
| 16:11 | paul_p | nengard: privacy works, except I've a question I want to deal with you. Let's do it after discussion about authorities |
| 16:12 | nengard | paul_p okay |
| 16:20 | nahuel | nengard, does it exists an marc21 test database that I can download ? |
| 16:20 | nengard | nahuel, i'm not sure - does anyone else know? |
| 16:27 | pianohacker | Back, had to restart after demo (curse you, X11) |
| 16:32 | nahuel | pianohacker, xrandr++ |
| 16:33 | pianohacker | Ubuntu 8.10 has support for xrandr. Something is wonky with my setup, I believe, since I had to restart to enable multiple screens but not to disable them |
| 16:34 | Jaunty++, really :) | |
| 16:36 | nahuel | pianohacker, well I have 8.10 and no problem with xrandr |
| 16:36 | my xorg.conf is really simple | |
| 16:36 | http://pastebin.com/f6711c2a8 | |
| 16:40 | nengard | okay - i'm a bit confused about branches - when can I delete branches? I've created a branch before each patch I submitted ... but now what? |
| 16:40 | pianohacker | liz_nekls_: Hello again |
| 16:40 | nengard | oh - my question is about git |
| 16:40 | not library branches :) | |
| 16:40 | pianohacker | nengard: Probably after the patch has been accepted |
| 16:40 | liz_nekls_ | hello, took a moment away for a video conference with the s |
| 16:40 | nengard | pianohacker okey dokey! |
| 16:40 | liz_nekls_ | spud's grandparents |
| 16:41 | pianohacker | liz_nekls_: Very nice |
| 16:41 | nahuel | nengard, you should always use the same git branch |
| 16:41 | not a branch by patch | |
| 16:41 | and then to update | |
| 16:41 | git fetch && git rebase master | |
| 16:42 | and if some local patches as been pushed to master, they will "disapear" from local patches | |
| 16:43 | pianohacker | nahuel: Multiple branches are nice to make sure that you don't have interdependent patches; database updates in particular have this problem |
| 16:44 | nahuel | well, it isn't easy to manage to much branches |
| 16:44 | pianohacker | It also helps anyone who follows your repo; a rebase will break git pull and require git fetch; git reset --hard origin |
| 16:44 | Oh, most definitely | |
| 16:44 | But a few are nice | |
| 16:44 | nahuel | git pull is bad for development branches |
| 16:44 | or you should use git pull --rebase | |
| 16:44 | nengard | I think I might need to talk to someone face to face about this at a later date |
| 16:45 | pianohacker | well... :) |
| 16:46 | nengard | lunch time might be a good time |
| 16:46 | :) | |
| 18:00 | chris | back from lunch |
| 18:00 | danny | me too |
| 18:04 | nahuel | too |
| 18:16 | pianohacker | Unless anyone objects, I'm going to move some prefs around. There is no reason for RoutingSerials (which _appears_ to add more information to items created by serialsadditems) to be on the Cataloguing tab |
| 18:20 | gmcharlt | that's fine |
| 19:43 | schuster | Great blog entries about the conference... |
| 19:47 | chris | schuster: are you doing up a nice page of links? :) |
| 19:47 | nahuel | does kohanews bot can report new twitter entries ? |
| 19:52 | schuster | chris - we are working on putting a page together to link to the wiki... - nahuel - don't know... |
| 19:54 | atz | FRBR diagram from code4lib... http://www.frbr.org/files/frbr-er-diagram-5.png |
| 19:54 | chris | schuster: awesome |
| 19:55 | schuster | chris will need your help with all the presentation links/files - I would like to put them on the program page you created if possible. Still trying to figure out where we may "post" the videos of the presentations when ready... |
| 19:56 | chris | i wonder if we could make a channel on youtube? |
| 19:56 | schuster | youtube limits to 10 minutes... |
| 19:56 | chris | ahh, hmmm |
| 19:56 | schuster | I'm going to check to see if we can use my district streaming server.... |
| 19:56 | chris | sweet |
| 19:57 | schuster | If we can't we may have to check google video or if another library has a streaming server they would allow us to post them on. |
| 19:57 | chris | yeah, might have to do a call out on the list |
| 19:57 | schuster | Yep. |
| 19:58 | chris | and yep we can do links from the program, gmcharlt linked his presentation in already |
| 20:00 | schuster | So we will need to post them somewhere else and link? or can we upload docs? |
| 20:01 | ok thanks... Nice to have you in close proximity...;) | |
| 20:09 | danny | does veoh allow you to upload videos that are longer then 10 min? |
| 20:14 | oh google video says no duration or size limit | |
| 20:14 | schuster | Yep that was why we were looking at google video... |
| 20:32 | slef | blip.tv works well IME - checking limits now |
| 20:34 | limit 1GB | |
| 20:35 | discriminates against the visually-impaired but looks pretty reasonable otherwise | |
| 20:44 | mcpuddin | Hello, I am new to Koha and am looking into it for an application for a rural school system in Honduras, anyone there to help me answer some initial questions about it? |
| 20:46 | 1) Is there any information in the docs about barcodes and scanners? | |
| 20:46 | 2) Are there any standard templates out there? Especially ones in Spanish? | |
| 20:48 | nahuel | mcpuddin, there is a full spanish(spain) translation |
| 20:48 | mcpuddin, what do you want to know about scanners/barcodes ? | |
| 20:49 | mcpuddin | where can I get those translated templates? |
| 20:49 | nahuel | did you get koha source kohe ? |
| 20:49 | code | |
| 20:49 | mcpuddin | I am currently running the debian vm image |
| 20:50 | nahuel | in the directory : misc/translator/ |
| 20:50 | you have the script which translates | |
| 20:50 | and the translation files | |
| 20:50 | which generates the templates files | |
| 20:50 | don't know the vm image | |
| 20:51 | mcpuddin | it was linked on the site, http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/ |
| 20:51 | to install templates, do I follow the instructions in here ? http://www.kohadocs.org/KOHAtr[…]/translation.html | |
| 20:51 | schuster | Scanners are input devices so there is no specific recommendation. |
| 20:52 | mcpuddin | gotcha, so the scanners would interface with browser itself? |
| 20:53 | schuster | Yes just like the keyboard as if you typed it. |
| 20:53 | Either through USB connection or a keyboard splitter. | |
| 20:54 | mcpuddin | makes complete sense, so the scanner is then completely independent of KOHA |
| 20:54 | thanks schuster =) | |
| 20:54 | schuster | Yes |
| 20:55 | nahuel | for the translation i think you should follow those instructions |
| 20:55 | mcpuddin | in re: templates, my default install looks like it has no template on there, I haven't found so much documentation on templates, but do I need to download or make my own "skin"? |
| 20:56 | nahuel | mcpuddin, look at the example in misc/translator/rebuild_lang.sh |
| 20:58 | mcpuddin | haha thats where things are hiding |
| 20:58 | i'll give this a whirl and see what comes of it, thanks nahuel | |
| 21:06 | nahuel | ok |
| 21:11 | mcpuddin | alright, so here is where i'm at.. (i'm running KOHA 3 btw): The templates are located in koha-tmpl/[template_name]-tmpl |
| 21:12 | The themes i see are intranet-tmpl and opac-tmpl (which are 2 different themes i can skin koha with), yes? | |
| 21:14 | (this is where I am confused), in order to switch between either of those themes i need to create a new parameter in my system_preferences called tempalte with the appropriate theme_name | |
| 21:17 | and once I find the them I want, I run the translation script to turn it into spanish | |
| 21:17 | am I headed in the right direciton? | |
| 21:43 | nahuel | mcpuddin, non |
| 21:44 | intranet-tmpl are the "intranet templates" | |
| 21:44 | and opac-tmpl the opac templates | |
| 21:44 | the themes might contain a intranet-tmpl and a opac-tmpl directory | |
| 21:44 | hhmmm | |
| 21:44 | no scuse :) | |
| 21:44 | i'm wrong | |
| 21:44 | in intranet-tmpl you have the "prog" template | |
| 21:45 | heu prog "theme" | |
| 21:46 | mcpuddin | so there are 2 different types of themes then, one for the intranet (which is like admin area) and one for the opac (which is everyone elses area) |
| 21:47 | nahuel | exactly |
| 21:47 | :) | |
| 21:48 | mcpuddin | so lets say I were to download a new intranet template |
| 21:48 | i would put it in the koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl folder | |
| 21:48 | nahuel | ? |
| 21:49 | there is only one intranet template as i know | |
| 21:49 | mcpuddin | are there more OPAC ones? |
| 21:50 | nahuel | no :) |
| 21:50 | it's too complicated to maintain | |
| 21:50 | else, with xsl template it should be easier | |
| 21:51 | mcpuddin | ah, so people just customize the existing tempaltes to fit their needs? |
| 21:51 | nahuel | hmm |
| 21:51 | no | |
| 21:51 | they uses the sysprefs for headers/footer/etc.. | |
| 21:51 | which includes code | |
| 21:51 | caj | mcpuddin: it becomes hard to upgrade or maintain |
| 21:52 | nahuel | http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 |
| 21:52 | mcpuddin, you can take a look to this url | |
| 21:52 | owen leonard did some tutorial | |
| 21:52 | mcpuddin | haha |
| 21:52 | wow that'll probably answer all my questions by just reading the title of it | |
| 21:53 | nahuel | :) |
| 21:53 | mcpuddin | thanks again guys for being very helpful =) |
| 21:53 | nahuel | you're welcome :) |
| 22:31 | caj | what's the best way to roll back a commit? |
| 22:31 | nahuel | git reset ? |
| 22:31 | caj | works for me thanks |
| 23:30 | pianohacker | dev meeting mostly over |
| 03:32 | Amit | hi brendan, chris, mason morning |
| 03:35 | mason | heya amit |
| 03:35 | Amit | mason: how the weekend |
| 03:38 | brendan | hey amit |
| 03:39 | hey mason | |
| 03:41 | chris | hey brenda, amit |
| 03:41 | Amit | hi chris |
| 03:42 | chris | brendan even |
| 03:42 | brendan | thanks chris |
| 03:43 | chris | :) in new mexico now? |
| 03:44 | brendan | yes - 640 miles today! |
| 03:46 | chris | yikes |
| 03:48 | brendan | not to bad -- I had some red bull !!! - plus a bunch of koha thoughts to motivate me! |
| 03:48 | chris | hehe |
| 03:49 | only a few of us left for tomorrow now, and most are heading out tomorrow | |
| 03:50 | brendan | dev's meeting still going on tomorrow -- or time for vacation! |
| 03:52 | chris | some hacking tomorrow, but informal |
| 03:52 | im gonna do some relaxing for at least half the day | |
| 03:52 | i saw a target that i wanna check out | |
| 03:56 | brendan | later chris -- going to have some fun myself |
| 03:56 | chris | cool |
| 03:59 | mason | heya brendan too :) |
| 03:59 | amit, good weekend thanks | |
| 05:11 | Amit | hi greenmang0 |
| 05:12 | greenmang0 | Amit: morning |
| 05:57 | eiro | hello koha people |
| 06:05 | Amit | hi eiro |
| 07:49 | chris: http://www.newdelhinews.net/story/487886 | |
| 08:57 | hi kf | |
| 09:35 | kf | hi A |
| 09:35 | mit |
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