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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 21:11 | chris | probably |
| 22:10 | kados | chris: can you give me oper? |
| 22:10 | chris: so we don't lose that again :-) | |
| 22:10 | chris: in case you get kicked off | |
| 22:14 | thx | |
| 23:24 | pate-away: hey pate | |
| 00:34 | rach | howdy |
| 02:04 | osmoze | bonjour |
| 02:05 | pierrick | bonjour :-) |
| 02:10 | chris | salut |
| 02:25 | pierrick | hi chris :-) |
| 02:31 | kados | pate-away: up yet? |
| 02:31 | of course I meant paul :-) | |
| 02:31 | it seems paul's not here | |
| 02:31 | morning pierrick | |
| 02:31 | pierrick: when paul arrives, let him know I committed a fix for his prob | |
| 02:31 | pierrick: but it still needs some testing | |
| 02:32 | pierrick: to make sure it didn't ruin anything else :-) | |
| 02:39 | paul | kados around ? |
| 02:39 | kados | paul: briefly yes |
| 02:39 | paul | (I saw a commit 10mn ago) |
| 02:39 | kados | paul: did you see the commit? :-) |
| 02:39 | paul | hi, i won't be too long. |
| 02:39 | kados | paul: addbiblio.pl |
| 02:39 | paul | yep. |
| 02:40 | kados | paul: fixed I hope |
| 02:40 | paul: still needs more fixing though | |
| 02:40 | paul | was this enough to fix everything ? |
| 02:40 | kados | no |
| 02:40 | it fixes labels | |
| 02:40 | paul | ah, ok, i'll try to investigate a little bit today. |
| 02:40 | kados | well ... I have a good plan in mind |
| 02:40 | paul | let me know. |
| 02:40 | kados | we use miker's new MARC::Record Options |
| 02:41 | did you read his email carefully? | |
| 02:41 | in fact you did | |
| 02:41 | because you responded that KOha now has no utf-8 probs | |
| 02:41 | paul | which one ? |
| 02:41 | kados | Mar 16 Mike Rylander ( 129) Re: Unimarc, marc21, Unicode, and MARC::File::XML |
| 02:41 | that thread | |
| 02:42 | we can use it to ensure that UNIMARC records are not re-encoded | |
| 02:42 | hdl | hi kados |
| 02:42 | kados | hi hdl |
| 02:43 | in 2.4 MARC21 Koha should require utf-8 | |
| 02:43 | because it's the only valid encoding we can support | |
| 02:43 | we _don't_ currently support MARC-8 as no browser can display MARC-8 chars above ascii range | |
| 02:43 | it's currently implemented as 8859-1, but this is wrong for MARC-8 | |
| 02:44 | so for 2.4 we require UTF-8 for MARC21 | |
| 02:44 | and for UNIMARC we let the record decide the encoding | |
| 02:45 | it should be quite simple to fix in fact | |
| 02:45 | and I will work on it tomorrow | |
| 02:45 | paul | I don't see this mail from miker with this subject & date. |
| 02:45 | kados | I'll forward it to you |
| 02:45 | paul | so I do nothing & just wait for your fix ? |
| 02:45 | kados | paul: it's on perl4lib list |
| 02:45 | paul: yes | |
| 02:45 | paul | that's OK for me :-D |
| 02:45 | kados | paul: I have EMN system running |
| 02:46 | paul: so I can test with real data | |
| 02:46 | paul: did you have another question? | |
| 02:46 | paul | yep : |
| 02:46 | kados | listening |
| 02:46 | paul | about your marc_time.pl scripts : they are fine. BUT, you must remember that packaging them for 2.4.0 means : put them in default templates / create a menu entrey / * translate them / check & check again. |
| 02:46 | kados | paul: sorry, I meant to commit to head |
| 02:47 | paul: as they are not needed in rel_2_2 | |
| 02:47 | paul | ah, ok. |
| 02:47 | kados: ++ | |
| 02:47 | kados | paul: they are for the Zebra Plugin |
| 02:47 | I should probably stop for the day, I'm starting to make mistakes :-) | |
| 02:47 | anything else? | |
| 02:47 | paul | ok, so go to bed & have a nice sleep ;-) |
| 02:47 | kados | ok :-) |
| 02:47 | g'night #koha | |
| 02:48 | paul | (+ tina may find bad to have such a man that never go to bed with her !) |
| 02:48 | so: kados => bed | |
| 02:48 | bye | |
| 02:50 | osmoze | whois paul, |
| 02:50 | oups | |
| 02:50 | excuse | |
| 03:27 | paul | hello pierrick |
| 03:27 | à propos des bindings | |
| 03:27 | tu peux aussi utiliser des arrays et faire un truc du genre : | |
| 03:28 | $query='insert into stopword (word) values (' | |
| 03:28 | foreach (split / /,$input->wordlist) { | |
| 03:28 | $query.="?,"; | |
| 03:28 | push @values,$_; | |
| 03:28 | } | |
| 03:28 | chop $query; | |
| 03:29 | pierrick | OK, comprendo :-) |
| 03:29 | paul | $query.=')'; |
| 03:29 | ... | |
| 03:29 | (ces quelques lignes montrent que je maitrise nettement mieux perl qu'en 2002 ;-) | |
| 03:29 | pierrick | (je l'écrirais pas comme ça, mais je comprends le principe) |
| 03:29 | paul | TRES nettement mieux même :-D |
| 03:30 | pierrick | je peux me permettre une remarque technique sur ton exemple ? |
| 03:30 | paul | zyva |
| 03:30 | pierrick | ton foreach est inutile |
| 03:31 | enfin, pas come ça | |
| 03:31 | paul | intéressante remarque : j'hésite tjs à simplifier mon code, parce qu'à un certain moment, le néophyte est totalement perdu. Déjà, le $_ est un peu "obscur" pour le débutant... |
| 03:32 | et il y a déjà assez peu de codeurs pour Koha pour que l'on ne décourage pas trop les bonnes volontés. | |
| 03:32 | pierrick | oui, c'est pour ça que j'évite d'utiliser le $_ |
| 03:32 | paul | et en même temps, faut quand même assumer le langage que l'on a choisi ! |
| 03:32 | pierrick | c'est parfois difficile de trouver la limite entre du code propre et du code lisible |
| 03:32 | paul | (à propos : ta visite était intéressante hier ?) |
| 03:32 | pierrick | (oui très) |
| 03:33 | (bib impressionnante) | |
| 03:33 | je retourne dans le code :-) | |
| 03:49 | paul, tu trouves ça lisible pour un non expert : $query = 'DELETE FROM stopwords WHERE word IN ('.join(",", map {"?"} (1 .. scalar @words)).')' ? | |
| 03:53 | sinon, je peux proposer ... IN (?'.(',?' x scalar @words).') (mais je trouve ça moins classe | |
| 03:53 | (oups, j'ai oublié un -1 | |
| 03:53 | IN (?'.(',?' x (scalar(@words) - 1)).') | |
| 03:53 | paul | franchement ? non, je trouve ca peu lisible. |
| 03:53 | pierrick | (faut imaginer ça avec de la coloration syntaxique |
| 03:54 | ni l'un ni l'autre ? | |
| 03:54 | paul | et autant sur des modules très critiques, utilisés souvent, je pense qu'il faut optimiser à la microseconde, autant sur un module d'admin, qui est peu utilisé, mieux vaut privilégier la lisibilité. Enfin, c'est mon avis. |
| 03:55 | pierrick | dans ton foreach, comment tu fais pour enlever le dernier ',' après le dernier '?', il va générer une erreur |
| 03:55 | paul | ouaip, remarque, la 2eme option est plus lisible. |
| 03:55 | chop | |
| 03:55 | pierrick | franchement, le chop, ça fait bidouille, non? |
| 03:55 | mettre puis enlever... bof bof :-/ | |
| 03:55 | paul | mmm... la capillotraction nous guette... |
| 03:56 | pierrick | mais c'est vrai que si on ne maîtrise pas le map, c'est plus compréhensible |
| 03:56 | paul | cela dit, le IN (',?' x scalar) me plait |
| 03:56 | pierrick | Paul, je risque d'utiliser ce genre de choses souvent, je veux savoir ce que je peux me permettre de faire et ce qu'il faut que j'évite |
| 03:56 | paul | l'autre, c'est un join de map de boucle... |
| 03:57 | ah, c'était ma grande crainte : qu'on récupère un jour un mongueur dans l'équipe noyau de développement... bon, on va faire avec ;-) | |
| 03:57 | pierrick | OK, je retiens que tu aimes l'astuce du 'x' :-) |
| 03:57 | mongueur... tu y vas un pu fort | |
| 03:58 | paul | ;-) |
| 03:58 | (grand crainte était aussi un peu fort, c'est donc équilibré au final !) | |
| 03:58 | pierrick | il faut écrire du code propre et maintenable, c'est l'objectif |
| 03:59 | dans le code que j'ai eu l'occasion de lire, je vois beaucoup de variable inutile, de for construit comme en C (alors qu'un for écrit en Perl est bien plus lisible). | |
| 03:59 | paul | si tu parles surtout de /admin/, comme je l'ai dit, c'était mes débuts en perl et en Koha. donc c'est très mal écrit, j'en suis parfaitement conscient ! |
| 03:59 | osmoze | pierrick, c est plus le vendengeur mais le nettoyeur |
| 04:00 | au fait, j ai toujours pas compris le vendengeur... | |
| 04:00 | pierrick | je pars sur le 'x' alors :-) |
| 04:00 | paul | n'hésites pas à écrire un espèce de "framework" pour l'administration que l'on pourrait recopier ensuite pour tous les modules d'admin. |
| 04:00 | pierrick | paul, je ne te fais aucun reproche, je ne sais pas qui a écrit les pages. De plus, le code que j'écris maintenant, je le trouverai nul dans 1 an certainement. |
| 04:01 | paul | ne t'inquiète pas, je ne me vexe pas, je suis même très conscient de mes limites passées. |
| 04:01 | mais maintenant tout va mieux, je suis un génie enfin éclos... | |
| 04:01 | pierrick | à quel type de framework penses-tu ? |
| 04:01 | paul | rien de particulier, juste avoir une structure commune dans l'organisation de tous les scripts. |
| 04:01 | comme on a aujourd'hui dans /admin/, mais en plus efficace. | |
| 04:01 | pierrick | ah... un template de page ? |
| 04:02 | pour moi, il y en a déjà un | |
| 04:02 | les pages semblent toutes construites à peu près de la même façon | |
| 04:02 | paul | ouaip, exact. |
| 04:02 | mais le script perl pour la section /admin/ est pas organisé le mieux du monde. Je nettoierai bien des choses si j'avais le temps. | |
| 04:03 | pierrick | à base de if ($op eq 'operation1'){}elsif ($op eq 'operation2') |
| 04:03 | hop, je retourne à mes stopwords ;-) | |
| 04:03 | paul | oui, mais un a un searchstring pas tjs bien d'aplomb, que l'on néglige parfois. On a un redirect-> à la fin des suppressions qui n'est pas tjs bon. On ne lit pas tjs les variables CGI au début, parfois oui, parfois au milieu du code |
| 04:04 | bref, plein de petits trucs pas graves mais pas cool non plus. | |
| 04:05 | pierrick | Je vois ce que tu veux dire maintenant que je suis plongé dans le code |
| 04:05 | tu me diras ce que tu penses de la nouvelle structure de stopwords.pl, ce sera une base de discussion concrète | |
| 04:08 | paul | oki |
| 08:11 | pierrick | is there anybody to explain me what are itemtypes images? |
| 08:11 | paul | oui, moi ! |
| 08:11 | pierrick | :-) |
| 08:11 | please do | |
| 08:11 | paul | it's a new feature (uncomplete) |
| 08:11 | that will enable an image to appear on result list (& bibliodetail) | |
| 08:12 | the image depends on the itemtype. | |
| 08:12 | it can be : | |
| 08:12 | * an image provided with the template (there are some for default) | |
| 08:12 | * an external image, available on a given URL | |
| 08:17 | pierrick | OK, because itemtypes.pl requires the current template to have these images (I've found them only in tempate "css") and template "prog" does not use them |
| 08:17 | paul | right. That's because I did it before PROG. |
| 08:17 | pierrick | so I'll look into template "css" how it's managed and report it to template "prog" |
| 08:17 | hi owen | |
| 08:18 | paul | pierrick: right |
| 08:18 | pierrick | paul, I've commited stopwords, waiting for your feedback (when you have time of course) |
| 08:25 | kados | morning guys |
| 08:26 | paul | wow, 5 hours in bed. that's really too much joshua ! |
| 08:27 | kados | hehe |
| 08:27 | paul | kados: I just discovered that my cloneTag is buggy when applied to an authority entry... |
| 08:27 | as the reported tag number don't change ! | |
| 08:27 | kados | hmmm |
| 08:27 | paul | are you a geek at javascript ? |
| 08:28 | kados | I can take a look |
| 08:28 | paul | my question is fairly simple : when the user clic on ..., I send the "index" as parameter. |
| 08:28 | kados | right |
| 08:28 | paul | index contains the number of the field in the area. |
| 08:28 | except that when you duplicate the field, the number changes ! | |
| 08:28 | kados | hmmm |
| 08:29 | the way to get around that | |
| 08:29 | paul | thus, I search a js function that give me the entry number dynamically ! |
| 08:29 | kados | I think |
| 08:29 | wait ... I better see how you did it first | |
| 08:29 | did you use cloneSubfield as a guideline? | |
| 08:29 | paul | yep. |
| 08:30 | I added a <div id="tagXXX"> | |
| 08:30 | that div is duplicated by cloneTag | |
| 08:30 | I have removed the code that empty the values. | |
| 08:30 | so, cloneTag is now very small | |
| 08:32 | kados | I also think we want to clear the value out of the clone |
| 08:32 | so if I type something in the field, then duplicate the field | |
| 08:32 | the duplicate should be blank | |
| 08:33 | instead of now, where it's duplicated exactly | |
| 08:33 | paul | maybe you're right. |
| 08:33 | but in this case we should empty the clone tag, not the original one. | |
| 08:33 | kados | right |
| 08:33 | paul | as usually, the librarian type the most important subject 1st, then.. |
| 08:33 | kados | to fix your authortiies prob |
| 08:34 | paul | so, the clone must create an empty AFTER. |
| 08:34 | kados | we need to be able to identify the '...' |
| 08:34 | and when cloning, we should change the id for that as well | |
| 08:34 | (well, change the 'index' value for it) | |
| 08:34 | paul | mmm... good suggestion... |
| 08:35 | and who can you find the id ? | |
| 08:35 | kados | in previous 'addfield', was a blank tag put inbetween two identical tags? |
| 08:35 | if so, clonetag must do the same | |
| 08:35 | paul | yep |
| 08:37 | kados | I don't think that the '...' has an id now but I'll check |
| 08:37 | paul | no, the ... don't have an id. |
| 08:37 | and the report is done on subfield, not on the ... | |
| 08:38 | kados | in addbiblio, we have: |
| 08:38 | <a style=\"cursor: help;\" href=\"javascript:Dopop('../authorities/auth_finder.pl?authtypecode=".$tagslib->{$tag}->{$subfield}->{authtypecode}."&index=$i',$i)\">...</a>"; | |
| 08:38 | so in clonetag | |
| 08:38 | paul | yep. |
| 08:39 | kados | clone.setAttribute('href', "the long href string"); |
| 08:40 | maybe use 'getAttribute to put the new 'index' in a variable | |
| 08:40 | make sense? | |
| 08:40 | paul | nope |
| 08:40 | kados | hehe |
| 08:41 | paul | because index is hardcoded & i think i must get rid of it |
| 08:41 | kados | index is needed to identify which tag to clone |
| 08:41 | paul | yep. |
| 08:41 | kados | but when you clone a tag, the href for the '...' doesn't change |
| 08:42 | paul | yep |
| 08:42 | kados | so it always points to the original |
| 08:42 | so just change the href | |
| 08:42 | paul | yep |
| 08:42 | to point where ? | |
| 08:42 | kados | to the new index :-) |
| 08:42 | paul | as I don't know the number of the clone ! |
| 08:42 | kados | see this line: |
| 08:42 | clone.setAttribute("id", index + index); | |
| 08:42 | now you can do: | |
| 08:42 | newindex = clone.getAttribute("id"); | |
| 08:43 | to get the new number | |
| 08:43 | (or, you can do index + index to get it (+ in javascript == . in perl) | |
| 08:43 | paul | mmm... no, as the index is related to SUBFIELD, while the id is related to TAG |
| 08:43 | kados | ahh |
| 08:43 | gotcha | |
| 08:44 | paul | index = the number in the array of values. |
| 08:44 | kados | still not a prob as each subfield containing a ... has an id |
| 08:44 | paul | if I add one, everything becomes false. |
| 08:44 | kados | right |
| 08:44 | paul | I must get rid of this hardcoded index & find it dynamically. |
| 08:44 | kados | cloneTag is definitely trickier than cloneSubfield :-) |
| 08:45 | paul | right ! |
| 08:45 | I thought it was easy, but i was wrong... | |
| 08:45 | kados | so while cloning a tag |
| 08:45 | you need to find and replace the ids of all subfields within it | |
| 08:45 | paul | conference.mai06 just registered Thomas Dukleth ! |
| 08:46 | kados | didn't Thomas already register? |
| 08:46 | paul | if he already did, he did it again ! |
| 08:46 | kados | hehe |
| 08:46 | paul | ok, I will have to put a div id=... on the subfield. |
| 08:46 | I see how to do it & even how to clone it. | |
| 08:47 | how to get the id on the right of the ... now ? | |
| 08:47 | (on the left) | |
| 08:47 | kados | you can set any attribute with 'setAttribute()' |
| 08:48 | subfield.setAttribute("id", newid); | |
| 08:48 | paul | I don't want to set if for instance, I want to GET it ;-) |
| 08:48 | kados | ahh |
| 08:48 | subfield.getAttribute("id") should do the trick | |
| 08:48 | pierrick | hi kados |
| 08:49 | kados | hi pierrick |
| 08:49 | paul | mmm... |
| 08:49 | kados | subfieldid = subfield.getAttribute("id"); |
| 08:49 | pierrick | paul, sorry to disturb, but I have a problem with itemtypes images |
| 08:49 | kados | in fact |
| 08:50 | paul | ok, I think i see how to do kados. i'll beep you if I need more help. |
| 08:50 | pierrick | paul, images are in OPAC template, how can I display them in the intranet |
| 08:51 | (without creating symlinks) | |
| 08:51 | paul | did you try to switch to default template to see if/how it works ? |
| 08:51 | pierrick | I'v taken the code from css template, but I didn't check if it was working |
| 08:52 | paul | it was, at least when I commited it ;-) |
| 08:52 | pierrick | sorry, I took the code from "default" not "css" |
| 08:53 | paul, do you have a separate virtual server for OPAC and intranet ? | |
| 08:53 | paul | yep |
| 09:00 | pierrick | paul, even with default it doesn't work |
| 09:00 | paul | sorry, but you'll have to investigate alone. Maybe it's buggy, it was commited soon in head. |
| 09:00 | pierrick | Perl finds the pictures (with the filesystem) but Apache can't find them |
| 09:01 | paul | (you'll have to investigate alone because I have a big problem with cloneTag that must be solved ASAP) |
| 09:01 | pierrick | OK paul, IMO it can't work, I'll force to have a symlink between OPAC and intranet templates |
| 09:08 | paul | kados: another question |
| 09:08 | (still javascript) | |
| 09:08 | If I write : | |
| 09:08 | defaultid=document.getElementById(subfieldid); | |
| 09:08 | I get an object containing some <input> | |
| 09:09 | I want to get the value of the field <input name="value"> in this object | |
| 09:09 | how to do this ? | |
| 09:09 | kados | right |
| 09:09 | 'name' is an attribute | |
| 09:09 | so : | |
| 09:10 | name = defaultid.getAttribute("name"); | |
| 09:10 | and 'name' should contain 'value' | |
| 09:10 | paul | name.value ? |
| 09:10 | kados | yes |
| 09:10 | paul | ok, i try this. |
| 09:11 | maybe i'll end by enjoying javascript... | |
| 09:11 | kados | in fact, you might not need name.value |
| 09:11 | paul | (I already succeeded to enjoy Perl, so, hope is permitted ;-) ) |
| 09:11 | kados | name will probably just be a var containing value already |
| 09:11 | hehe | |
| 09:11 | js can be fun when only dealing with firefox | |
| 09:11 | otherwise, forget it! | |
| 09:12 | pierrick | (paul, with symlink itemtypes images work like a charm) |
| 09:16 | paul | kados: it doesn't work |
| 09:16 | here is my HTML : | |
| 09:17 | <div style=";" id="subfield600220"><p> | |
| 09:17 | <input type="text" name="field_value" value="" size="70" maxlength="255" DISABLE READONLY> | |
| 09:17 | <a style="cursor: help;" href="javascript:Dopop('../authorities/auth_finder.pl?authtypecode=SAUT&index=subfield600220','subfield60220')">...</a> | |
| 09:17 | <input type="hidden" name="tag" value="600"/> | |
| 09:17 | <input type="hidden" name="subfieldYYY" value="a" size="2" maxlength="1"/> | |
| 09:17 | <input type="hidden" name="mandatory" value="0"/> | |
| 09:17 | <input type="hidden" name="kohafield" value=""/> | |
| 09:17 | <input type="hidden" name="tag_mandatory" value="0"/> | |
| 09:17 | </p> | |
| 09:17 | </div> | |
| 09:17 | here is my js : | |
| 09:17 | defaultid=document.getElementById(subfieldid); | |
| 09:17 | alert("DEF"+defaultid); | |
| 09:17 | defaultvalue=defaultid.getAttribute("subfield_value");; | |
| 09:17 | alert("DEF"+defaultvalue); | |
| 09:17 | the 1st alert gives me : | |
| 09:17 | object HTMLDivElement | |
| 09:17 | the 2nd one answer : NULL | |
| 09:18 | kados | hmm |
| 09:18 | paul | missing : function Dopop(link,subfieldid) { |
| 09:18 | (at the beginning of js) | |
| 09:18 | kados | right |
| 09:18 | defaultvalue=defaultid.getAttribute("subfield_value"); | |
| 09:18 | how does it know "subfield_value"? | |
| 09:19 | hehe | |
| 09:19 | did I write that? | |
| 09:19 | paul | no, you wrote "getAttribute("name") |
| 09:19 | but it doesn't work either | |
| 09:19 | kados | hmmm |
| 09:20 | it should work | |
| 09:20 | http://www.mozilla.org/docs/do[…]dom_el_ref38.html | |
| 09:20 | don't put it in "" | |
| 09:20 | as that converts a var to a string | |
| 09:21 | paul | ?? |
| 09:21 | kados | no, I'm wrong |
| 09:21 | it's ok as "" | |
| 09:21 | try: | |
| 09:22 | defaultvalue=defaultid.getAttribute("name"); | |
| 09:22 | alert("DEF"+defaultid.value); | |
| 09:22 | woops | |
| 09:23 | alert("DEF"+defaultvalue.value); | |
| 09:23 | paul | js errove : defaultvalue has no properties |
| 09:24 | (as expected : as defaultvalue is null, it has no .value) | |
| 09:25 | kados | hmmm |
| 09:25 | paul | the defaultid should contains some other objects (1 for each <input>) |
| 09:25 | so, what i'm looking for is not an attribute of defaultid. | |
| 09:25 | kados | ahh! |
| 09:25 | that's it then | |
| 09:25 | paul | it's the value of the object named "subfield_value" |
| 09:26 | "under" subfieldid | |
| 09:26 | kados | right |
| 09:26 | paul | (that is unique) |
| 09:26 | kados | so you can 'walk the DOM' |
| 09:26 | paul | yo ! i'll become a walk the DOM man if you explain me how to do ! |
| 09:26 | kados | http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/t[…]ript/domstructure |
| 09:26 | hehe | |
| 09:27 | I'm not very good at it myself, only having done it once or twice | |
| 09:30 | paul | Yo, Ithink I just started to walk the DOM. |
| 09:30 | a very good day ;-) | |
| 09:30 | kados | cool :-) |
| 09:30 | paul | getElementsByTagName |
| 09:30 | is my friend now ! | |
| 09:30 | kados | excellent! |
| 09:31 | we could really improve Koha quite a bit with some nice javascript | |
| 09:31 | paul | & we could improve our js skills with some understandable docs... |
| 09:31 | kados | docs++ |
| 09:32 | paul: one of my clients has bib + authority data _with_ linking numbers | |
| 09:33 | paul: they are of the form: A123456.1 in the Bib record, and 123456.1 in the Auth record | |
| 09:33 | paul: but we don't have a bulkauthimport.pl script, correct? | |
| 09:34 | paul: how difficult would it be to import auth records assuming that all the links were correct (and in $9) | |
| 09:35 | paul | it should not be too hard I think |
| 09:36 | are the auth records in an iso2709 file ? | |
| 09:37 | kados | yes |
| 09:37 | each type of auth record is a separate file | |
| 09:37 | authors.mrc, subjects.mrc, etc. | |
| 09:38 | paul | thus you should just have to modify bulkmarcimport to do an NEWauthority instead of a NEWbiblio ! |
| 09:38 | and that should be enough. | |
| 09:38 | kados | great! |
| 09:38 | paul | (assumed the links are correct & in $9) |
| 09:38 | kados | yep |
| 09:40 | thx | |
| 09:40 | I'll give that a shot | |
| 09:48 | paul: where is 'NEWauthority' method? | |
| 09:48 | paul: I see 'newNEWbiblio', but no NEWauthority | |
| 09:48 | paul | AUTHaddauthority |
| 09:48 | (in AuthoritiesMarc.pm | |
| 09:48 | ) | |
| 09:49 | kados | ahh, thanks |
| 10:01 | paul | kados : do you know if thd will stay for the devWeek ? |
| 10:04 | kados | I'm not sure |
| 10:15 | paul | kados: how to get all <div> that are childs of an object ? |
| 10:15 | i explain what i'm doing : i pass the tag$id to be able to find all <input> (that are the subfields of the tag) | |
| 10:16 | to report the authority value. | |
| 10:16 | hi thd. | |
| 10:16 | (or is it an auto reconnect ?) | |
| 10:17 | thd | hello paul |
| 10:17 | paul | hi thomas. |
| 10:17 | just saw your registration for 2/3 may. | |
| 10:17 | do you plan to come to Marseille too ? | |
| 10:18 | (for devWeek ?) | |
| 10:18 | thd | yes, I merely had neglected to register for the convention |
| 10:19 | paul | did you reserve an hotel ? |
| 10:19 | (for Marseille I mean) | |
| 10:19 | thd | paul: hdl was kind enough to change his room in Marseille for a twin to share with me |
| 10:19 | paul | ok, great |
| 10:20 | (+ we now have a problem, as we will be 11 for 2 cars !) | |
| 10:20 | i'll try to find a solution to this problem... | |
| 10:21 | thanks, I go back to bug hunting | |
| 10:21 | thd | paul: do you mean cars between the hostel and the conference location in Marseille? |
| 10:21 | paul | yep |
| 10:21 | mine + hdl one | |
| 10:24 | thd | paul: I made the change with hdl about a week ago when I found that the hostels had all been booked but I believe there is public transport in Marseille. |
| 10:24 | paul | don't worry, i'll take care of this. |
| 10:25 | thd | paul: Do you live near Marseille? |
| 10:25 | paul | I live in Marseille ! |
| 10:25 | (south of) | |
| 10:25 | (and the CMI is on the north) | |
| 10:25 | the hotel being in the center ! | |
| 10:25 | on the left is the sea. | |
| 10:26 | and on the west a part of the city, then "calanques" | |
| 10:26 | thd | paul: I thought there was more sea to the south :) |
| 10:26 | paul | that's a mistake everybody does... |
| 10:26 | Marseille is N/S oriented. | |
| 10:26 | the mediteranean sea is on the west | |
| 10:30 | thd | paul: I only have to pester the US state department to ensure that my passport arrives in time, There should be no danger even if they took the maximum time from my application but I do not have it yet. |
| 10:32 | paul: kados:has given me some work which has kept me busy and under communicative recently. | |
| 10:35 | paul: Is the any real risk of the places for convention in Paris becoming over full. I have been trying to have someone from Madrid come to Paris but his plans keep changing. | |
| 10:35 | ? | |
| 10:36 | paul | for the 1st day, no risk : there are more than 100 |
| 10:36 | for 3rd, we may need to move to a larger room ! | |
| 10:36 | (for instance, it's only 30places) | |
| 10:37 | thd | paul: I told him that the 3rd day was likely to have the best detailed information. |
| 10:39 | paul: From the presenters, it would seem that 3 May will also mostly be in English. Is that correct? | |
| 10:39 | paul | yep. |
| 10:39 | translated by jp sakoun & me. | |
| 10:39 | thd | paul: Is that an oral translation? |
| 10:40 | paul | yes |
| 10:40 | but I asked everybody to send presentations 1 week before to have it on paper too | |
| 10:41 | thd | paul: Will you provide an oral translation from French into English as well? I had noticed paper translation of text previously. |
| 10:41 | paul | I won't, but jean pierre will |
| 10:41 | (or maybe i will as well) | |
| 10:42 | (but my accent is really poor, jean pierre's highly better) | |
| 10:46 | thd | paul: I can guess at the text of a few languages, mostly French, but I cannot follow the spoken language in any language but English :) |
| 10:51 | paul: my French is mostly serviceable for buying and simple cataloguing.of books. | |
| 11:02 | pierrick | read you tomorrow, I'm leaving (paul, I'll commit itemtypes tomorrow) |
| 11:06 | paul_away | see you later |
| 11:40 | griffjon | OK, so I've used the marc import tool to get my old Access DB loaded into the bilbio table -- but I can't figure out how to "activate" these records so that they appear in the catalog? |
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