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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 12:09 | griffjon | I take it back, it claims it's imported all my records, but they're nowhere to be found. They don't have ISBN numbers, (though the marc import tool doesn't complain) -- is that causing a problem perhaps? |
| 12:44 | OK, seriously -- the Catalog: MArc Acquisition reports all my records imported -- where do they go??? | |
| 12:44 | I made sure at least one had an ISBN number, but I can't find even it anywhere | |
| 12:44 | they show up neither in the catalog admin tool nor normal book lookup | |
| 12:55 | owen | griffjon, sorry you're not getting any feedback |
| 12:56 | It's the time of day when Europe is off work and New Zealand isn't up yet | |
| 12:56 | that cuts out 2 of 3 possible continents of tech support | |
| 12:57 | griffjon | ahhh |
| 12:58 | that is something I enjoy about Koha -- it's one of the most scattered and international OSS projects I've seen | |
| 13:05 | owen | What's your time zone griffjon? |
| 13:08 | griffjon | EDT |
| 13:08 | -5 I think | |
| 13:10 | owen | So in a couple hours New Zealand will come online. Otherwise mornings until about 10:30 or 11 are good for catching France |
| 13:43 | griffjon | ow that hurt |
| 13:43 | but I think I got my data in | |
| 13:43 | the whole marc export/import was a wild goose chase effort for me | |
| 13:44 | I used MyODBC Connector for MYSQL to export my books table (reformatted to match the Koha biblio table) from MS Access, then an update query to import it from the temporary MySQL table into biblio and biblioitems | |
| 13:45 | I still have to go through manually and assign ISBN/barcode numbers before they become "active" but I expected that step | |
| 13:45 | kados | griffjon: you imported into the reservoir |
| 13:45 | griffjon: use bulkmarcimport.pl instead | |
| 13:45 | griffjon: it's in the misc directory | |
| 13:45 | griffjon | bulkmarcimport wasn't doing anything for me |
| 13:45 | kados | griffjon: misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl |
| 13:45 | griffjon | It parsed a subset of my records, but they never appeared anywhere |
| 13:45 | kados | griffjon: well, it's _the_ import script, and it's what everyone else uses :-) |
| 13:46 | griffjon: you sure you followed the instructions carefully? | |
| 13:46 | griffjon | trust me, I tried and tried many different ways to use it |
| 13:46 | kados | griffjon: you sure you didn't get confused and use misc/bulkauthimport.pl? |
| 13:46 | griffjon | ooooh, now that I may have done! |
| 13:46 | erm, lemme look | |
| 13:46 | kados | cause that won't work at all, that script does nothing |
| 13:47 | griffjon | heh |
| 13:47 | yup | |
| 13:47 | ok. :( | |
| 13:47 | tab completion + frustration can be bad! | |
| 13:48 | kados | :-) |
| 13:49 | griffjon | lemme clear out my tables and try that |
| 13:50 | owen | kados, do you know who worked on holidays.pl? The script says "-TG" is that Tumer? |
| 13:50 | griffjon | fingers crossed.... |
| 13:53 | kados | owen: probably |
| 13:54 | griffjon: bulkmarcimport.pl will automatically delete data from the database with the -d option | |
| 13:54 | owen | Have you tried it? Looks interesting, but the interface is javascript-heavy and buggy |
| 13:55 | kados | I haven't |
| 13:55 | I think paul has though, and reports it works nice | |
| 14:28 | owen | Congratulations kados |
| 14:39 | kados | thx ... |
| 14:39 | it's been a huge joint effort | |
| 14:40 | so really, everyone deserves credit | |
| 14:40 | griffjon | does Koha not care about author first v last names? IT seems to want it in one field (should it be last, first |
| 14:40 | ?) | |
| 14:40 | kados | ahhhh |
| 14:40 | well, depends on what you're trying to do | |
| 14:41 | if you have MARC records there are several author fields | |
| 14:41 | 245$c is the author's name as it appears on the item | |
| 14:41 | 100$a is the lastname,firstname | |
| 14:41 | 700$a are additional authors | |
| 14:41 | (those are the three main ones) | |
| 14:42 | you shouldn't try to import directly into Koha | |
| 14:42 | use bulkmarcimport ;-) | |
| 14:46 | griffjon | ahhhh |
| 14:52 | I was thinking 100$a was just the last name, and $c was first name (or the other way around) | |
| 14:53 | I'm creating my marcimport using the marcedit | |
| 14:53 | BTW, a set of tools to import data into koha without having to learn marc would be great for us non-librarian types | |
| 14:54 | kados | sure, and we'd love to build them, but noone's sponsored such a set of tools :-) |
| 14:55 | if you have a marc dump you don't nee to use marcedit | |
| 14:55 | unless you need to move things around | |
| 14:58 | griffjon | I have just a basic access db of title, author, and a few notes |
| 15:10 | for bulkmarcimport, which title field gets used? I've tried 130$a and 240$a and neither are importing | |
| 15:29 | sigh | |
| 15:30 | I can't even find any more title records to use | |
| 15:33 | aha! 245$a | |
| 15:57 | owen | kados: turns out those changes to Auth.pm weren't what we were looking for after all :( |
| 16:00 | kados | yea, just saw your email |
| 16:00 | bummer | |
| 16:01 | both you and CCFLS want that change made | |
| 16:01 | wish I had time to do it today | |
| 16:01 | but I'm swamped in a migration involving authorities | |
| 16:24 | griffjon | one last question for the day -- where are the template variables store? |
| 16:24 | er, stored | |
| 16:24 | say, for example, LibraryName? ;) | |
| 16:24 | kados | preferences |
| 16:25 | griffjon | do I need to add a system preference? the only template pref I saw was npl or default |
| 16:29 | kados | well, those are the only two templates by default |
| 16:29 | chris | its pretty tricky, if you put another set of templates in the directory, they will show up in the list |
| 16:30 | eg /usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/new_templates/en/ etc | |
| 16:30 | griffjon | that's way more effort than I'm ready to expend right now -- I'm just trying to change the libraryname |
| 16:30 | chris | oh thats a system preference |
| 16:30 | too | |
| 16:31 | libraryname i think | |
| 16:31 | griffjon | right... I think I must be blind then |
| 16:32 | lemme try adding it | |
| 16:33 | aha! that worked | |
| 16:33 | alright | |
| 16:33 | with that success I'm outahere | |
| 16:33 | thanks guys | |
| 03:14 | russ | hi paul |
| 03:14 | paul | hi russ |
| 03:16 | the KohaCon will should be a success... | |
| 03:17 | at least for May 3rd => we may need a larger room than expected... | |
| 03:17 | russ | awesome |
| 03:17 | yes it has generated alot of interest | |
| 03:17 | paul | i'm waiting for the list from Ineo, but i'm "afraid" that the 30 places won't be enough... |
| 03:17 | russ | do you want me to put up the "Full House" sign on the website and take down the registration form? |
| 03:18 | osmoze | bonjour |
| 03:18 | paul | mmm, no. |
| 03:18 | because there are plenty of places free for May 2nd. | |
| 03:18 | and I'll request a larger room for 3rd | |
| 03:18 | + some libraries like SAN Ouest Provence plans to be *5*. | |
| 03:19 | if we get full, i'll request that only 2 or 3 come ! | |
| 03:19 | osmoze | paul, c est bon, j ai l autorisation pour venir :) |
| 03:19 | russ | :-) |
| 03:19 | paul | + few other libraries coming with 2 ppl. |
| 03:20 | osmoze : great, waiting for your registration at conference.mai06koha-fr.org => someone at Ineo take care of the registrations. |
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| 03:20 | osmoze: alone or with sandrine ? | |
| 03:21 | osmoze | alone :( because she will be in exam) |
| 04:15 | paul | osmoze: l'inscription pour le 2 est franchement superflue, amha. mais tu fais comme tu veux ! |
| 06:19 | yo, pierrick top commiter on head this week ;-) | |
| 06:19 | chris | :-) |
| 06:19 | paul | hi chris |
| 06:19 | chris | hes a committing machine :) |
| 06:19 | paul | still not in bed ? |
| 06:19 | chris | hi paul, just got your email |
| 06:19 | not yet, friday night, I can sleep in tomorrow | |
| 06:20 | paul | (lucky man : with 3 guys at home, wake up at 7:30 every day that god makes !) |
| 06:20 | chris | hehe |
| 06:20 | paul | are you a javascript warlord ? |
| 06:20 | chris | not me |
| 06:21 | bob at katipo is our resident javascript guru | |
| 06:21 | :) | |
| 06:22 | paul | and almost killed the addbiblio-cloneTag troll. |
| 06:22 | chris | have you ever seen monty python paul? |
| 06:22 | paul | nope |
| 06:22 | but I know who they are. | |
| 06:23 | chris | the joke i was going to make wont be funny without seeing it :) |
| 06:26 | im hoping to do some commits tomorrow, I have some code from Tumer to merge in and commit | |
| 06:26 | paul | chris : do you still have libraries with MARC=OFF ? |
| 06:26 | chris | yes |
| 06:27 | 2 | |
| 06:27 | HLT, and Rangitikei District Library | |
| 06:27 | paul | no way to switch to MARC=ON ? |
| 06:27 | the first & 2nd libraries using koha isn't it ? | |
| 06:27 | chris | they dont want to see the MARC .. they are happy its there in the background, but they dont want to see it |
| 06:28 | Rangitikei only went live last year, the second public library in NZ | |
| 06:28 | paul | but with MARC=ON & hide_marc=ON they won't see any MARC tags/labels. |
| 06:28 | chris | ohhh |
| 06:28 | ill try that | |
| 06:28 | they are both running 2.2.5 now | |
| 06:28 | paul | they will just see descriptions. |
| 06:28 | & no indicators or any other marc things. | |
| 06:28 | chris | ill demo it for them and see if they like it |
| 06:29 | they both use Full Acquisitions | |
| 06:29 | paul | that's not a problem I think |
| 06:29 | (for marc=on i mean) | |
| 06:29 | chris | we should have the third NZ public in a few months .. they are converting at the moment |
| 06:29 | public library I mean | |
| 06:29 | paul | how many are there in NZ ? |
| 06:30 | russ | 2 public so far |
| 06:30 | chris | 2 public libraries, lots of smaller ones |
| 06:30 | and specialist libraries | |
| 06:30 | paul | hi russ. |
| 06:30 | (hi again i mean) | |
| 06:30 | chris | paul: ill try that on their test sites and they can take a look and see if they like it |
| 06:31 | paul | with tabs they should be a little troubled |
| 06:31 | but link this with some authorities, and they may be convinced. | |
| 06:31 | chris | right |
| 06:31 | russ | paul do you have a speaker to do the first talk yet on day 1? |
| 06:32 | paul | not yet. |
| 06:32 | I contacted 3 guys, and all of them declined. | |
| 06:32 | :-( | |
| 06:32 | russ | oh dear |
| 06:32 | paul | I don't have any more ideas. |
| 06:33 | russ | i guess one of us could so something - but that isnt really what you are aiming for is it? |
| 06:33 | paul | right. |
| 06:34 | + I think it would be better to have something in french for this part. | |
| 06:34 | otherwise, we would have too much english. | |
| 06:34 | russ | oh buy us i mean someone within the community |
| 06:34 | so you :-) | |
| 06:34 | paul | :-) |
| 06:35 | chris: i'll commit some things (on rel_2_2) that needs a little bit of javascript. i'll explain on koha-devel what is still to do. | |
| 06:36 | chris | excellent |
| 06:36 | paul | if you could take care of it, that would be fine, I don't see how to solve my problem |
| 06:36 | chris | bob reads koha-devel so he might have some suggestions |
| 06:36 | right, ill get bob to take a look | |
| 06:36 | paul | (& i'm a dummy at javascript...) |
| 06:36 | chris | yeah, im bad at it too |
| 06:37 | paul | time to go for some lunch (almors 2PM...) |
| 06:38 | chris | bon appetit |
| 06:40 | paul | chris: how many lbraries do you have (as customer i mean) |
| 06:40 | chris | good question |
| 06:40 | i think about 6 or 7 | |
| 06:40 | lets see | |
| 06:41 | paul | (as NZ is a "small" country, so I was wondering if you have only a few, many, and how much it is from the total) |
| 06:41 | chris | lianza, eeo, fred hollows, hlt, rdl, opus, lgnz |
| 06:41 | russ | lianza |
| 06:41 | oop you had lianza | |
| 06:41 | chris | unido |
| 06:41 | but they arent in NZ | |
| 06:42 | eesi | |
| 06:42 | they are in australia | |
| 06:42 | hmm we have more than we thought I guess, but only 4 or 5 we do regular work on | |
| 06:43 | when the 3rd public library comes along .. koha will be in 3 public libraries in nz .. which is a pretty good amount | |
| 06:43 | im not sure how many public libraries there are .. but there arent that many | |
| 06:48 | i think there are a couple of other libraries we have helped too, special libraries but I cant remember their names | |
| 06:49 | oh, philanthropy australia | |
| 08:43 | osmoze | paul K |
| 08:43 | ? | |
| 08:45 | admin | hey all |
| 08:46 | kyle | I was wondering if anyone could help me walk through comitting my template to cvs |
| 08:46 | I tried connection but I get an error message. | |
| 08:46 | I'm trying : cvs -z3 -d kylemhallcvs.savannah.nongnu.org:/sources/koha co -r rel_2_2 koha |
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| 08:47 | and I get this in return: Permission denied (publickey). | |
| 09:07 | pierrick | kyle, I'm going to help you :-) |
| 09:10 | kyle, did CVS asked a password when trying to checkout? | |
| 09:23 | kados | paul: are you here? |
| 09:24 | paul: I found another bug with rel_2_2 (I think) | |
| 09:24 | ToinS | kados: paul isn't here for the moment.... |
| 09:24 | kados | kyle: log into cvs |
| 09:24 | kyle: https://savannah.nongnu.org/my[…]n/editsshkeys.php | |
| 09:24 | ToinS | he 'll come back soon |
| 09:24 | kados | kyle: you'll need to put your public key in there |
| 09:24 | ToinS: thanks! | |
| 09:25 | ToinS: do you know when? | |
| 09:25 | ToinS | i don't know... sorry |
| 09:27 | pierrick | hi kados |
| 09:30 | kados | hi pierrick |
| 09:31 | hdl | hi kados. Did you receive my mail for kohadocs ? |
| 09:36 | kados | hdl: yes, but I don't have write access to kohadocs |
| 09:36 | hdl: send it to stephen | |
| 09:36 | hdl: shedges [at] skemotah.com | |
| 09:37 | pierrick | kados, I'll test zebra-plugin early next week |
| 09:37 | kados | w00t |
| 09:37 | pierrick | (and tell you all what's wrong ;-) |
| 09:37 | kados | hehe, sounds good |
| 09:38 | pierrick | (or correct by myself if I understand the backend |
| 09:38 | kados, you didn't tell me if the wiki conversion was satisfaying | |
| 09:39 | kados | pierrick: it didn't work at all for me |
| 09:39 | pierrick: wiki.koha.org | |
| 09:39 | pierrick | what does not work at all ? |
| 09:39 | kados | pierrick: I can't view any pages |
| 09:39 | pierrick | :-) |
| 09:40 | wait a second | |
| 09:40 | kados | sure |
| 09:41 | pierrick | better ? |
| 09:46 | kados, can you make sure file data/changes.log is writable? | |
| 09:46 | kados | sure |
| 09:47 | pierrick: ok, it's writable | |
| 09:47 | pierrick: better! | |
| 09:47 | pierrick: thanks! | |
| 09:49 | pierrick | OK, chmod seems to have worked :-) |
| 09:50 | kados | unfortunately today I have several appointments outside of Athens |
| 09:50 | so I must leave now | |
| 09:50 | pierrick | it's an old snapshot of the wiki, so when you're ready to switch, I'll rerun my migration tool |
| 09:50 | kados | (I may be back in several hours ) |
| 09:50 | pierrick: ok, maybe next week we will switch | |
| 09:50 | pierrick | no pb kados, have a nic week-end, read you on monday |
| 09:50 | kados | pierrick: thanks again! |
| 09:51 | pierrick | kados, thanks to you, I only participate to the community :-) |
| 10:00 | paul | osmoze: i'm back |
| 10:09 | osmoze | can i phone to you paul ? |
| 10:09 | paul | yep |
| 10:09 | osmoze: yep | |
| 10:10 | osmoze | do you have a new phone ? Because i think i phone to your house |
| 10:10 | (repondeur^^) | |
| 10:10 | paul | 04 91 31 45 19. Faut lire la liste infos correctement ;-) |
| 10:10 | (déménagement annoncé en décembre !!!) | |
| 10:15 | kados | paul: got a second? |
| 10:15 | paul: I need to leave in 5 minutes | |
| 10:15 | paul | (on phone, but then yes) |
| 10:17 | kados: write your request | |
| 10:17 | kados | paul: having trouble with authorities |
| 10:17 | paul: i created a bulkauthimport.pl script | |
| 10:17 | paul: that seems to work perfectly | |
| 10:18 | paul: bibs have link in $9 of a tag and auths have link in $9 of a tag | |
| 10:18 | paul: http://smfplopac.liblime.com/c[…]thorities-home.pl | |
| 10:18 | paul: search for PERSONAL NAME | |
| 10:19 | paul: MacDonald, Alan | |
| 10:19 | paul: (MacDonald, Alan is a real author in the collection) | |
| 10:19 | paul: results come back fine | |
| 10:19 | paul: but the # of bibs does not appear | |
| 10:20 | paul: and the link doesn't work | |
| 10:20 | paul: I just thought of something | |
| 10:20 | paul: is it required to set up authorities in the biblio framework before they will work for searching? | |
| 10:22 | paul: that was my question ... but now I must leave | |
| 10:22 | paul | ok, i'll answer by mail |
| 10:22 | (still on phone) | |
| 10:22 | kados | paul: thanks! |
| 10:22 | bye all | |
| 10:22 | paul | i'll be away on monday-<wed |
| 10:35 | pierrick | hdl, see you on monday :-) I'm leaving too |
| 10:36 | (I mean, I'm leaving office now) |
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