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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:02 | owen | Hi meushi |
| 13:03 | meushi | hi owen |
| 15:43 | russ | shaun - you still around? |
| 16:13 | pate-lurk | kados, you around? |
| 16:14 | chris | heya pate |
| 16:14 | pate-lurk | i'm talking to someone in seattle who's looking for help with Koha on win32 |
| 16:14 | anyone i can CC: on an email to him | |
| 16:15 | hiya chris | |
| 16:15 | chris | hmm not that i know of, you could cc the win32 list? |
| 16:16 | pate-lurk | yeah, i'm asking him to subscribe |
| 16:17 | i should probably pull my name of the contact page ... i'm not sure that I'm much help beyond pointing to people and giving encouragement at this point | |
| 16:17 | chris | :) the new website is about to be soft launched today |
| 16:18 | pate-lurk | cool |
| 16:19 | chris | so i think as that filters through you should have less requests |
| 16:20 | its trying to point ppl at the lists as first port of call | |
| 16:20 | for free support anyway | |
| 16:20 | pate-lurk | well, it's not like i get a lot of requests ... this is the first one in quite a while |
| 16:21 | it's in seattle though | |
| 16:21 | chris | right |
| 16:21 | pate-lurk | and that says something for them ... Seattle Academy of Fine Art |
| 16:22 | btw, congrats on the profiling work (from your blog) | |
| 16:23 | chris | ta, date::manip is still in use in C4::Search, which circulation.pl is using so ill have to fix taht too to get the speed i want |
| 16:23 | ohh the academy of fine art | |
| 16:23 | i drove past that | |
| 16:24 | id forward it on to joshua, he might be able to help out, or know someone who can | |
| 16:26 | kados | pate-lurk: am now |
| 16:28 | pate-lurk: I think I'd recommend a hosted solution for those folks | |
| 16:29 | pate-lurk: our server-farm is in seattle ;-) | |
| 16:29 | pate-lurk: and it's got a fiber backbone | |
| 16:29 | pate-lurk: so it's super fast | |
| 16:30 | pate-lurk | well, i cc:ed your info address |
| 16:35 | chris | hows the new job treating ya pate? and has your daughter started school? |
| 16:36 | si | ohh, pat's in |
| 16:36 | are yo ukeeping well, pat? | |
| 16:41 | pate-lurk | sorry, had an urgent request |
| 16:41 | yeah, the job's treating me well, and eliza's in her second week at the Uni | |
| 16:41 | hiya si | |
| 16:41 | chris | excellent |
| 16:42 | pate | we adopted a dog (a rescued chocolate lab) |
| 16:42 | chris | we need to make a dogs.koha.org :) |
| 16:43 | russ | i reckon |
| 16:43 | si | nope, they don't care either way :-) |
| 16:43 | pate | heh |
| 16:46 | rach | steve T had a border collie I recall |
| 16:48 | chris | 2 for me, 2 for rach and si, 1 for pate, 1 for owen, 1 for russ ... who else |
| 16:49 | richard has 1, and he has been doing lots of koha work lately | |
| 16:49 | mason sorta has one | |
| 16:50 | russ | angela has been working on the website and she has one |
| 16:53 | shaun you there? | |
| 16:53 | shaun | yep |
| 16:54 | russ | ok so on the website things still left to do |
| 16:54 | you start :-) | |
| 16:54 | shaun | from my perspective: |
| 16:54 | # a katipo tech needs to look at cgi-irc and get it pointing at #koha-lobby, and also set up logbot for #koha-lobby | |
| 16:55 | pate-lurk | gotta run ... |
| 16:55 | chris | cya pate |
| 16:56 | rach | cya |
| 16:56 | shaun | # the search box needs to be changed to point at the htdig page, with the right variables, and i will also construct the search results page when i get around to it... |
| 16:56 | chris | im doing htdig now |
| 16:56 | shaun | # i'd like to see the download page a bit better written |
| 16:57 | chris: great | |
| 16:58 | russ | # world map - i have an idea that i am going to document - the map idea just isnt working - i think a little directory db like oscommerce has is a better idea something people can search over by country and library type |
| 16:58 | i'll spec that over the next week or so | |
| 16:58 | shaun | # someone (Irma?) needs to come along and make the general style the same, and check for common errors like greengrocer's apostrophes, very long sentences, links which consume more of the text than they should etc |
| 16:59 | (that last one: writing/prose style) | |
| 16:59 | # i need to sort out the breadcrumbs that i broke | |
| 17:00 | # the related links box should be filled in with appropriate links, and commented out on pages where there are no related links | |
| 17:03 | russ | that has been done for the most part shaun |
| 17:04 | shaun | russ: there's still a few pages with the original message i left there, they need doing, but otherwise the related links are all good |
| 17:04 | russ | can you give me url's |
| 17:04 | i thought i just sorted those | |
| 17:05 | maybe i need to trigger them | |
| 17:05 | shaun | not tonight (i've got less than 10 minutes left, then bed) |
| 17:06 | russ | no worries |
| 17:06 | we will do some checking before and after the go live | |
| 17:06 | shaun | there's then my long-awaited css patch, which should sort the wrapping h2s, the feature row on the homepage, the not-so-nice green links on the homepage and a few other minor things |
| 17:07 | meta tags need to be sorted - i'd imagine you'd be better at that than me but i put in some provisional ones | |
| 17:08 | rss feed meta link also needs to point at the aggregator | |
| 17:08 | (^ wow, that's a lot of stuff to do) | |
| 17:09 | russ | well the hope is that is will be a living website |
| 17:09 | so i would expect that list to grow | |
| 17:09 | :-) | |
| 17:10 | shaun | also, if we could find two more links for the quick links, that would be great - i designed the fourth (now third) row around having the same box size |
| 17:10 | russ | ah righto |
| 17:10 | i'll sort something there | |
| 17:11 | shaun | i've been noticing you have put some additional styles in - take the /about-koha/ page, for example |
| 17:13 | in the related pages links, the h2 "Why Koha?", and the bold subheadings | |
| 17:13 | is that something you intended or what the html editor has done? | |
| 17:13 | russ | right no idea on that one - i havent been playing with the styles |
| 17:13 | i think there may be a bit of both | |
| 17:14 | shaun | i'd like to see it all just happily using tags unless it's absolutely necessary to do some inline styling |
| 17:14 | so <strong> instead of font-weight: bold; etc | |
| 17:15 | rach | that won't be us doing that - but you can use Kea's excellent tattle tale feature to see who's been introducing them and beat them up :-) |
| 17:15 | shaun | :-) |
| 17:16 | an easy one - the javascript(s) in the head should be moved into a file and the headers all pointed to that file (just cuts down unnecessary code) | |
| 17:16 | the favicon.ico should be replaced with rach's new, slicker logos | |
| 17:17 | kados | russ: just getting to the website now |
| 17:18 | russ: you can add Northland Bible Baptist College to the list of opacs | |
| 17:18 | russ: libcat.nbbc.edu | |
| 17:18 | russ: came out nicely I think | |
| 17:18 | russ: and you can link directly to the Koha intranet http://koha.liblime.com | |
| 17:19 | chris | http://new.koha.org/cgi-bin/ht[…]s=chris&submit=Go |
| 17:19 | kados | nice! |
| 17:19 | search even works ;-) | |
| 17:19 | our search didn't work for at least a week after launch ;-) | |
| 17:20 | chris | ohh that did come out nice kados |
| 17:20 | shaun | chris: looking good |
| 17:21 | kados | russ: let me find nbbc's stats |
| 17:21 | chris | i like the icons, and book images |
| 17:23 | kados | russ: 55,000 records, 1,100 borrowers, |
| 17:23 | shaun | chris: how difficult would it be to touch it up for xhtml 1.0 (i.e. closing tags)? |
| 17:23 | chris | dont ask me |
| 17:23 | i dont write html | |
| 17:23 | kados | shaun: before the conference? ;-) |
| 17:24 | russ: there's also an official LibLime press release on my appointment as RM: http://liblime.com/c/koha24RM.html | |
| 17:24 | russ: you getting this? ;-) | |
| 17:25 | Irma | g'day all |
| 17:26 | Are you about Russel? | |
| 17:26 | shaun | hi Irma - we've been talking about the site's content |
| 17:27 | Irma | sorry for my abscence ...where is the discussion up to? |
| 17:28 | shaun | (where has russ gone, anyway?...) |
| 17:28 | thd | Irma: I guess it is up to why is thd tardy :) |
| 17:29 | shaun | Irma: http://new.koha.org/ - i'll find one of my comments earlier and paste |
| 17:30 | shaun: # someone (Irma?) needs to come along and make the general style the same, and check for common errors like greengrocer's apostrophes, very long sentences, links which consume more of the text than they should etc | |
| 17:30 | shaun: (that last one: writing/prose style) | |
| 17:31 | sorry guys, i've gotta dash, i'm restricted by my school term times again | |
| 17:31 | russ | sorry |
| 17:31 | other work has come up | |
| 17:31 | Irma | yep... his is where I can come in. |
| 17:31 | thd | Answer, feature list to actually sell Koha on features has taken some time and still two modules to go. |
| 17:31 | Irma | Russ can we schedule a time to prepare for the editing/proofreading? |
| 17:32 | russ | yep sorry guys - i need 20 mins to deal with a client |
| 17:32 | bbs | |
| 17:34 | Irma | Hi thd...sorry, I don't know your full name... |
| 17:35 | thd | Irma: Dukleth |
| 17:36 | Irma: It may still be misspelt on the website. | |
| 17:38 | Irma: Appears mistakenly as Duklef http://new.koha.org/about-koha/koha-team.html | |
| 17:42 | russ | righto |
| 17:43 | Irma | oh yes I can see Thomas...what is the correct spelling? Are you in New Zealand? |
| 17:43 | thd | Irma: Dukleth |
| 17:43 | russ | i think we are going to need some htdig nosearch tags in the code as well - i'll ask someone to have a look at that |
| 17:43 | thd | Irma: I have corrected the source and notified the change. |
| 17:44 | Irma | beaut! |
| 17:44 | thd | russ: What havoc has htdig been doing? |
| 17:45 | chris | just indexes the navigation |
| 17:45 | which we dont really want it to | |
| 17:45 | russ | so it comes up in the search results |
| 17:45 | in the descriptions | |
| 17:45 | not pretty | |
| 17:46 | thd | Irma: I am in NYC. |
| 17:47 | Irma | Russ: hi... unfortunetly I will need to be away from my desk for about 3 hours...can I call you...let's say :your time 2:30PM??? |
| 17:47 | rach | hi irma - thank you so much for your present :-) |
| 17:47 | russ | that should be ok |
| 17:47 | i will be getting out of a meeting about then | |
| 17:47 | Irma | thanks Thomas, I love your city. |
| 17:47 | kados | site looks great everyone |
| 17:48 | http://new.koha.org/about-koha[…]/nelsonville.html | |
| 17:48 | russ: related links not quote what we expect ;-) | |
| 17:48 | rach | Irma: scan indicates a boy so the clothes should be perfect :-) |
| 17:48 | Irma | Isn't it so small, tripple zero! The sweets are for all who have a sweet Nature!/tooth! |
| 17:49 | russ | kados: go some ideas there? |
| 17:49 | s/go/got | |
| 17:49 | rach | they are v cute :-) |
| 17:49 | kados | agreed ;-) |
| 17:49 | russ: not off hand | |
| 17:50 | russ: but if you tool around on the LibLime Koha pages you might find some interesting news and other related links | |
| 17:50 | russ: http://liblime.com/koha | |
| 17:50 | russ: there's a 'Koha in the News' section | |
| 17:50 | Irma | just looked at the website...positive so far |
| 17:50 | russ | would it be appropriate to link to npl home page, liblime, and skemotah from the npl case study? |
| 17:51 | kados | russ: suure |
| 17:51 | sure even ;-) | |
| 17:51 | chris: any chance we could have a live chat going ? | |
| 17:51 | thd | kados: what is the self checkout system that Koha supports? |
| 17:51 | kados | thd: web-based ... it'll be included in Koha 3.0 |
| 17:52 | chris: cgi::irc direct to irc.katipo.co.nz #koha? | |
| 17:52 | thd | kados: Do you not have it in use already at NPL? |
| 17:52 | kados | shaun should probably put together a graphic for that |
| 17:52 | thd: yep | |
| 17:52 | thd: been using it for several months | |
| 17:53 | chris | yeah if i get time kados |
| 17:53 | well not #koha | |
| 17:53 | thd | kados: So the issue is that the code has not been committed to the current release? |
| 17:53 | kados | chris: why now? |
| 17:54 | chris: not even | |
| 17:54 | thd: yes | |
| 17:54 | chris | dunno, im sure there was a discussion about this already? |
| 17:55 | thd | kados: Which manufacturer system does the code support? |
| 17:55 | kados | thd: it's web-based |
| 17:55 | thd: so IBM for starters ;-) | |
| 17:55 | chris | im sure there was, and we came up with koha-lobby or are we dreaming? |
| 17:55 | we=I | |
| 17:56 | kados | the idea being that it'd be a salesy channel? |
| 17:56 | chris | dont think so |
| 17:56 | i cant remember, someone help me out | |
| 17:57 | i gotta go do some work, but ill be back | |
| 17:57 | thd | kados: sorry for being so dense, I was basing my question on some ambiguous references in the Koha diary or on the koha-devel list. |
| 17:58 | kados | thd: np :-) |
| 18:05 | thd | previous discussion between chris and kados had been looking for what kados had proposed as #koha-lobby: |
| 18:05 | 11/08/05 11:00:35+-5<kados:#koha>rach: I'd like to have a koha-lobby | |
| 18:05 | 11/08/05 11:00:45+-5<rach:#koha>nice idea | |
| 18:06 | kados | hehe |
| 18:06 | it was my proposal to boot ;-) | |
| 18:06 | thd | congratulations kados |
| 18:07 | kados: you and chris were dreaming the same dream | |
| 18:09 | kados: when you migrate a library to koha where do you find the status information? | |
| 18:11 | kados: answer at your leisure. | |
| 18:13 | russ | thd: your efforts are much appreciated :-) |
| 18:14 | thd | russ: You mean the ones you have not seen yet :) |
| 18:15 | russ | thd: i have blind faith :-) |
| 18:18 | allrighty then - http://www.koha.org/ - few teething problems that we are working through, but they should be sorted soon | |
| 18:21 | thd | russ: You might reserve a little judgement, I have already written but not yet posted a message explaining why I have done it the way that I have. Serving multiple purposes, including motivating more serious interest by people in Koha for features that are not obvious with the broken demo. Yet I think it will by liked after perhaps some modification. Then, I will go onto adding to the FAQ. |
| 18:32 | chris | http://koha.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi |
| 21:55 | Irma | g'day again |
| 21:55 | russ | hi |
| 21:58 | http://www.katipo.co.nz/client[…]esk/keatutorials/ | |
| 21:59 | http://www.katipo.co.nz/client[…]screen-large.html | |
| 22:07 | dean | hi irma |
| 22:08 | http://koha2.edit.katipo.co.nz[…]path=/about-koha/ | |
| 22:14 | http://www.katipo.co.nz/client[…]ial2/changes.html | |
| 00:43 | hdl | hi |
| 02:15 | osmoze | hello |
| 02:15 | bonjour paul | |
| 02:15 | paul | (gros pb de ternet chez moi aujourd'hui...) |
| 02:16 | (c'est bien la peine d'avoir nerim et payer + cher pour avoir des déco :-( | |
| 02:16 | osmoze | je viens de lire tes mails et y a t il eu un fil sur les rss que j ai loupé ou peux tu me dire le fonctionnement (en gros) vis a vis de koha |
| 02:16 | paul, c est comment a marseille avec l eau N | |
| 02:16 | ? | |
| 02:16 | hdl> et toi, pas touché ? | |
| 02:16 | paul | il y en a assez peu, NETTEMENT - qu'hdl |
| 02:16 | (qui est à mpl) | |
| 02:16 | hdl | non pas de façon visible. |
| 02:17 | ... pour les décos. | |
| 02:17 | Mais pour l'eau, faut voir... | |
| 02:17 | Ce fut un peu le déluge. | |
| 02:18 | osmoze | et l autoroute est ouverte ? |
| 02:19 | hdl | Cet AM ce devrait être praticable. |
| 02:19 | Mais renseigne-toi aux infos aujourd'hui. si tu comptes prendre les départementales. | |
| 02:20 | osmoze | normalement non, je prendrai ce qui est pratiquable...Mais j aimerai pas prendre la barque ^^ |
| 02:23 | paul | et hop, deco/reco encore une fois... |
| 08:27 | owen | Happy Friday, #koha |
| 08:28 | kados | morning owen |
| 08:28 | owen | Hey kados. So you gave up on the mod_perl stuff for now? |
| 08:28 | kados | yea ... too much to do before tomorrow |
| 08:28 | I'll hack on it next week | |
| 08:29 | owen | Yeah, I guess tomorrow would be a bad day for Koha to be acting up |
| 08:29 | The speed increase certainly makes it worth pursuing | |
| 08:29 | kados | we've got to move some OPACs today and printers, etc/ |
| 08:29 | owen | ltsp clients? |
| 08:29 | kados | oh ... and did I mention the phone system :-) |
| 08:29 | linux terminal server project | |
| 08:30 | owen | Cool... Didn't realize you were doing that. |
| 08:30 | kados | yea ... pretty nice setup too XFCE with Mozilla |
| 08:30 | they auto-login and start Firefox | |
| 08:31 | plus I can troubleshoot them from the server | |
| 08:31 | I'm also working on getting remote desktop control so staff can work on their desktops while they are on circ | |
| 08:31 | (when things get slow) | |
| 08:41 | owen | Wait...I thought things never got slow at Athens! |
| 08:43 | hdl | kados : how was your meeting ? |
| 08:48 | kados | hdl: very successful |
| 08:48 | hdl: they await the success of the Z3950 client but everything else was very smooth | |
| 08:48 | hdl: thanks! | |
| 09:02 | hdl | kados : Don't mention it. |
| 10:54 | kados | paul and hdl are you around? |
| 10:54 | paul | yes (for me) |
| 10:54 | hdl | yes. |
| 10:54 | kados | great ... I have a quick question |
| 10:54 | do you both have CVs that you can send me? | |
| 10:54 | paul | in french yes. |
| 10:54 | kados | CV meaning a 'resume blurb'? |
| 10:55 | that's fine ... I can translate ;-) | |
| 10:55 | I will use them in a proposal to illustrate diversity and expertise of Koha team | |
| 10:57 | paul | sent |
| 10:58 | kados | thanks |
| 11:11 | paul: recieved your CV | |
| 11:12 | hdl: can you send yours? ;-) | |
| 11:14 | shaun | kados: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.p[…]:34&search=Search |
| 11:14 | "shaun should probably put together a graphic for that" -- what should i do? | |
| 11:14 | kados | shaun: ahh ... for the livechat |
| 11:15 | we'll need some kind of graphic signaling folks that they can get on koha-lobby | |
| 11:15 | thx | |
| 11:15 | owen | Hey shaun. The Koha site looks great. Well done. |
| 11:15 | kados | yea ... looks very professional |
| 11:16 | nicely done shaun | |
| 11:16 | shaun | cheers |
| 11:16 | paul | yes, very nice. |
| 11:17 | except that there is still no bg color in <body> | |
| 11:17 | so, it's grey for me, not very nice :-( | |
| 11:17 | shaun | i'm doing a patch asap |
| 11:17 | paul | great ! |
| 11:18 | another note : I can't find a link to the french site. | |
| 11:18 | should be reintroduced on home page, imho | |
| 11:19 | shaun | paul: it's in the pay for support page |
| 11:19 | kados | paul: agreed ... |
| 11:20 | though eventually I think we decided we'd have a bunch of little 'flats' on the top right (or somewhere) signaling different languages | |
| 11:20 | and we'd have a translated version of the site on koha.org | |
| 11:20 | paul | I plan to rewrite koha-fr.org to look like koha.org, but not next week ;-) |
| 11:21 | kados | :-) |
| 11:21 | paul | ok, leaving now, read you on next monday ! |
| 11:21 | kados | http://translate.google.com/tr[…]%2Flanguage_tools |
| 11:21 | not too bad as far as format goes | |
| 11:21 | shaun | paul: feel free to ask if you need any help porting it, i can send you the static one if you like |
| 11:22 | kados | shaun: could you put some 'flags' up in the meantime that link to the google translation pages? |
| 11:22 | shaun: and as we get 'real' translations we can change the links? | |
| 11:22 | shaun | i wouldn't like to use google translate, it's not always accurate, but i'll certainly look at making the flags |
| 11:23 | kados | well ... it's better than no translation at all IMO |
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