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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:21 | kados | has anyone here seen the demo of PINES Evergreen circ? |
| 12:21 | it's really nice | |
| 12:21 | http://open-ils.org/blog/?p=27#more-27 | |
| 12:21 | there's a firefox extension to install | |
| 12:23 | this is really impressive | |
| 12:24 | not everything is working yet but it's really cool | |
| 12:41 | so owen ... we still have two reserve errors right? | |
| 12:41 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=969 | |
| 12:41 | "Overriding waiting item results in cancelled reserve" | |
| 12:41 | and the second | |
| 12:42 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=844 | |
| 12:42 | "renewstatus subroutine should check for reserves" | |
| 12:42 | owen: any more reserve-renew-related bugs asside from those? | |
| 12:44 | owen: do you mind if I update 101? | |
| 12:47 | owen | That sound right--just the two reserve errors |
| 12:49 | kados | and our solution for 844 was to just include the 'reserved' variable so you could 'block' the checkbox on the details screen right? |
| 12:53 | it's this variable in moremember.tmpl: | |
| 12:53 | <!-- TMPL_IF name="norenew" --> | |
| 12:53 | right? | |
| 12:53 | owen | Right--the renewstatus should check for both too many renewals and a reserve. |
| 12:53 | It'd be nice if it returned two variables--one regarding renewals, and one regarding reserves. | |
| 12:53 | I'm not sure how it might work, though. | |
| 13:34 | Hi Ben | |
| 13:34 | Ben | hi. |
| 13:34 | apologies for my early leave yesterday: it was 11pm and I had to go to bed | |
| 13:36 | owen | I think it was a bad time for almost everyone! |
| 13:36 | That's what compromise is all about :) | |
| 13:36 | Ben | yes |
| 13:37 | still, I got in an hour of it | |
| 14:13 | kados | Note that I'm assuming that all libraries don't want items reserved for others |
| 14:30 | indradg | kados, just had a look at open-ils.org... these guys' are really thinking of kicking it up a notch.. jabber... XUL ... hmmm |
| 14:30 | kados | yep :-) ... did you see my post above? |
| 14:31 | it's really a nice interface | |
| 14:31 | indradg | well...it was ur post which took me there :) |
| 14:36 | kados | chris around? |
| 14:42 | shaun | hi everyone - is kados around? |
| 14:42 | slef | hi doctor nick! |
| 14:46 | kados | shaun: my list email? |
| 14:46 | you mean a re-cap? | |
| 14:46 | that recap is probably rach's job | |
| 14:46 | shaun | anything that you would say about being 2.4 RM, and the job allocations. |
| 14:47 | kados | right ... I'll probably do a general email |
| 14:47 | shaun | excellent |
| 14:47 | kados | then start threads for the individual roles and jobs to do |
| 14:47 | etc. | |
| 14:47 | hopefully I'll get the general email out today (truth be told, I was kinda waiting for rach to do an official sounding email to the list announcing me, etc.) | |
| 14:48 | (for the folks that were'nt at the meeting) | |
| 14:48 | but I guess I don't need to wait for that | |
| 14:49 | shaun | if you send that out, I will call a meeting on # on the topic of visual interface - I would call it the website meeting, but I feel that the templates need to be brought into it as well, to some extent |
| 14:50 | kados | how about I call the meeting ... and it'll be the 'interface design' meeting |
| 14:50 | the website doesn't really fit into that scope does it? | |
| 14:50 | shaun | an interface with customers |
| 14:50 | kados | ahh |
| 14:50 | shaun | ;-) |
| 14:51 | anything that the end-user sees, basically? | |
| 14:51 | kados | so we're talking about redesigning the entire color scheme/ logos, etc of Koha |
| 14:51 | all things Koha | |
| 14:51 | I'm all for that | |
| 14:51 | but | |
| 14:51 | shaun | the logos are good- rach has done a good job with the latest one she sent out to me at least. |
| 14:52 | kados | I still think the narrower topic of interface design as related to the actual Koha interfaces is a priority |
| 14:52 | yea the latest logos are nice | |
| 14:52 | shaun | the visual identity needs to be brought back up to a slick level. |
| 14:52 | go on then - without a doubt, such a meeting will be just as popular as the town hall one... | |
| 14:52 | kados | in my experience, designing an overall presense is a tough thing to do wihen we've got so many folks with a vested interest |
| 14:53 | ok ... I'll bring up both issues and we'll hash it out ;-) | |
| 14:53 | shaun | yeh... mind if I chair? |
| 14:58 | brb | |
| 15:00 | kados | shaun: I'd rather chair for now |
| 15:24 | shaun | back again - kados: OK |
| 15:36 | kados | sure |
| 15:37 | shaun: sorry ... I've been squashing bugs today for NPL | |
| 15:37 | shaun | np |
| 15:37 | kados | I'll probably not get to the message for a few hours |
| 15:38 | plus I'd like to touch base with rach before I do send it | |
| 15:38 | thanks for your patience ;-) | |
| 15:38 | shaun | i'll be gone by then... 9:00 GMT, thursday next week sound OK? |
| 15:39 | kados | sounds ok with me ... course, any time is always ok with me |
| 15:39 | since I work on Koha now for NPL and LibLime it's pretty much Koha all the time ;-) | |
| 15:39 | two full time jobs ... yay! | |
| 15:39 | ;-) | |
| 15:41 | how many times can paul quit without joining again ? ;-) | |
| 16:02 | indradg | kados, around? |
| 16:06 | shaun | I'm off now, bye. kados - send mail ;) |
| 16:16 | kados | indradg: yep |
| 16:16 | chris: if you're around ... do you happen to remember what the values for 'itemlost' mean? | |
| 16:24 | indradg: what's up? | |
| 16:36 | indradg | kados, I was thinking how abt a pygtk interface for the circ module? |
| 16:37 | kados | right ... have you seen chris's work? |
| 16:37 | http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz | |
| 16:37 | indradg | yep... looked thru the screenshots |
| 16:38 | kados | I'd like to see an XMLHttp front end |
| 16:38 | like Evergreen's | |
| 16:38 | indradg | hmmm...interesting :) |
| 16:38 | Genji | morning. |
| 16:38 | kados | morning Genji |
| 16:38 | indradg | morning Genji |
| 16:39 | kados | so Chris has done a TK and a Curses implementation |
| 16:39 | http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz/[…]-bin/blosxom/koha | |
| 16:41 | indradg | cool |
| 16:47 | kados, excuse my ignorance... the only time I fiddled with curses was back in the mid 90s... what I knew was that it worked on the terminal | |
| 16:47 | kados | it does ;-) |
| 16:48 | it's a widget toolbox | |
| 16:48 | indradg | rite... but that might lead to issues with L10N issues with asian scripts |
| 16:49 | kados | yea |
| 16:49 | I'd like to see XMLHttp | |
| 16:49 | we can likely steal the whole thing from Evergreen | |
| 16:49 | indradg | most asian scripts.... particular all the indian langs don't behave on terminals due to rendering and character clusters issues |
| 16:50 | kados | (their mozilla plugin is based on XMLHttp) |
| 16:50 | indradg | yeah... /me was reading up XUL tutorials |
| 17:06 | si | joshua: 'tis saturday here |
| 17:06 | rach is out stewarding at a dog show | |
| 17:55 | kados | ahh ... right ... forgot about the day diffs |
| 17:55 | too bad | |
| 18:08 | si | that's not to say that either of them won't be on some time |
| 18:08 | but I wouldn't rely on it :-) | |
| 21:26 | kados | any Spanish or French Kohaites present? |
| 21:26 | chris around? | |
| 21:33 | chris | whats up? |
| 21:36 | Genji | hiya chris! |
| 21:37 | chris | heya |
| 21:55 | kados | hi guys |
| 21:55 | chris: two questions | |
| 21:56 | 1. did you ever commit your mozilla extension and README? | |
| 21:56 | chris | nope, as i havent been able to generalise it yet |
| 21:57 | kados | 2. do you remember what the itemlost status statuses are? |
| 21:57 | 0 is 'not lost' ... I'm assuming 1 = lost | |
| 21:57 | but what about 2-~? | |
| 21:58 | chris | yep |
| 21:58 | 1 = marked lost by the librarian | |
| 21:58 | 2= longtime overdue | |
| 21:58 | considered lost by koha | |
| 21:58 | if you set up your rules and use fines2.pl | |
| 21:59 | koha will mark items 2 after a set period and level the replacement charge on the borrowers account | |
| 21:59 | kados | cool ... thanks |
| 22:02 | and should itemlost be 0 by default, empty, or null? | |
| 22:03 | in 2.2 lost items are displayed alongside items present in the catalog ... on the initial search results sscreen | |
| 22:03 | I'm trying to alter the sql query that pulls out item info | |
| 22:03 | chris | null or 0 |
| 22:03 | kados | elect items.* from items where biblionumber=? and itemlost< |
| 22:04 | chris | 0 if its been 1 or 2 previously |
| 22:04 | kados | ok ... so itemlost<1 should work then eh? |
| 22:04 | is null < 1? | |
| 22:04 | chris | dont think so |
| 22:04 | kados | or is it undefined |
| 22:04 | chris | null is undefined |
| 22:04 | kados | shoot |
| 22:04 | so maybe itemlost !=1 and itemlost !=2 ? | |
| 22:05 | chris | and (itemlost = 0 or itemlost is NULL) |
| 22:05 | kados | ok ... I'll give that a shot |
| 22:06 | thanks | |
| 22:06 | chris | np |
| 22:11 | :) | |
| 09:53 | kados | :-) |
| 09:53 | ISP nab it? | |
| 09:59 | slef: do you know of a free 'meetup.com' resource? | |
| 09:59 | slef: I'd like to setup some kind of voting mechanism for meeting times | |
| 09:59 | slef: how does debian do it? | |
| 10:00 | (speaking of debian, would it be worth it to try to get a Koha package together for inclusing in sarge?) |
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