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| 01:18 | mtj | hi tcohen, can you get them to log a bug, re http-tiny? |
| 01:18 | ..i had a look, and it seems ok to me | |
| 01:34 | hmm, seems the pkg is removed from deb11 | |
| 01:34 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=962407 | |
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| 01:54 | mtj | ...but is included in 'perl' pkg, instead |
| 01:56 | so, looks like everything should be ok, for all supported deb/ubuntu versions | |
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| 02:44 | saa | how to correctly import date acquired date in 952$d |
| 02:45 | though we tried to import from excel to marc and then to koha after import the date does not get imported properly and it brings wrong date | |
| 02:46 | can anyone suggest how to configure excel properly especially for date and then import data in marc and then to koha | |
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| 07:05 | marcelr | o/ |
| 07:06 | ashimema | Morning #koha |
| 07:12 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:14 | marcelr | hi ashimema reiveune |
| 07:15 | Joubu | @later tell tuxayo did you have a look at my alternative patch on 35506? |
| 07:15 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:16 | Joubu | hi marcelr, ashimema! |
| 07:16 | marcelr | o/ |
| 07:16 | Joubu | marcelr: seen sec bug? |
| 07:17 | you will love it, it's about auth :D | |
| 07:18 | ashimema | /me is grumpy about the security release.. we really must get better at this :-( |
| 07:18 | marcelr | yeah, this did not look good |
| 07:19 | Joubu, yes I saw about AutoLocation | |
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| 07:37 | Joubu | marcelr: fun on bug 35918 as well... |
| 07:37 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35918 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , Incorrect library used when AutoLocation configured using the same IP |
| 07:38 | marcelr | hmm does not recommend using AutoLocation |
| 07:39 | Joubu | not if you think it will protect you... |
| 07:39 | marcelr | i would use iptables or nginx etc to do so |
| 07:40 | Joubu | code from 2006.. |
| 07:40 | marcelr | remove it ! |
| 07:40 | how many people use it ? is it on HEA? | |
| 07:42 | Joubu | 173 |
| 07:53 | marcelr: patch coming, writing test | |
| 07:54 | marcelr | yes thats not very much :) |
| 07:57 | tuxayo | Joubu: hi :) I've seen the notifications, I'll look in the details and try to test quickly. |
| 07:58 | marcelr | 107 in PQA ?! |
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| 08:05 | fridolin | yellow |
| 08:07 | ashimema | 108 |
| 08:08 | 45 of which are marked as Bugs | |
| 08:08 | cait is waiting on security release too | |
| 08:08 | everything it backlogs | |
| 08:08 | backlogged | |
| 08:08 | even | |
| 08:08 | 130 in the QA queue too | |
| 08:08 | the numbers are upsetting right now | |
| 08:09 | cait | yeah, the plan is to unlock it a bit today |
| 08:09 | I might need help with a rebase for the one patch later on, but I think that's the smaller price | |
| 08:09 | we agreed to open up the datatables bug, right? | |
| 08:09 | ashimema | yes |
| 08:10 | cait | shoudl we do it immediately or do I just push and we do it later on? |
| 08:10 | ashimema | done |
| 08:10 | cait | ok, so I need to tidy ma branch a little, then will resume |
| 08:12 | tuxayo | > waiting on security release too |
| 08:12 | bug 35687 should be included, right? | |
| 08:12 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail |
| 08:12 | tuxayo | > we agreed to open up the datatables bug, right? |
| 08:12 | got my answer ^^ | |
| 08:12 | cait | we are ina bad in between state now |
| 08:13 | most branches are ready, some are not | |
| 08:13 | Joubu | @later tell khall ping 35353 :) |
| 08:13 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:13 | cait | the older ones had trouble with backporting |
| 08:13 | Joubu | @later tell kidclamp can you ping khall for 35353 for me please :) |
| 08:13 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:16 | ashimema | Where is the 22.11 security branch.. it's not in the repos yet at all |
| 08:18 | cait | I think not pushed because of the failing test |
| 08:18 | fredericd: around maybe? | |
| 08:19 | Joubu | tcohen: please have a look at bug 35353 comment 5. (related with 35247 and 35560) |
| 08:19 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add API endpoint to fetch patron's previous holds |
| 08:19 | Joubu | 3 different implemtation for the same thing, do not change koha... |
| 08:19 | @later tell tcohen please have a look at bug 35353 comment 5. (related with 35247 and 35560) | |
| 08:19 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:21 | ashimema | We could help if it was pushed |
| 08:21 | Whilst it's only on his pc it's hard for us to help | |
| 08:21 | And very hard for those below to backport | |
| 08:27 | cait++ | |
| 08:31 | cait | I guess great minds think alike ;) |
| 08:33 | marcelr | great_minds++ |
| 08:36 | Joubu | cait: did you see my reply about the failing tests? |
| 08:36 | tests are failing for months on this branch | |
| 08:37 | cait | I think they didn't know as they are trying to fill in |
| 08:38 | if someone took a look and verified it's not related to the backports it would probably help? | |
| 08:38 | also... shoudl we not still fix them? | |
| 08:39 | Joubu | actually provided fixes to fix them... |
| 08:39 | 2 months ago | |
| 08:39 | they didn't know? | |
| 08:39 | jenkins? | |
| 08:40 | I told them it is failing for months, and provided fix 2 months ago, not sure what else I can do... | |
| 08:40 | and I am out of this now | |
| 08:40 | cait | the patches are ont hte bugs? |
| 08:40 | Joubu | please read my last email |
| 08:40 | cait | just found it |
| 08:42 | Joubu | marcelr: bug 35817 comment 3... hum... did you read the diff? |
| 08:42 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35817 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Failed QA , Wrong hint on patron's category when batch update patron |
| 08:42 | cait | hm my ktd up with elastic takes unusually long today |
| 08:43 | hm ok - Elastic is just complainy | |
| 08:44 | marcelr | no Joubu, qa tools complained |
| 09:18 | ashimema | we really need an api coding guideline around 'old' endpoints |
| 09:18 | I'm fed up of getting stuck in the same discussions each time | |
| 09:20 | Joubu | we have one, for checkouts. IMO we should implement the same (consistency) for holds. |
| 09:21 | that's my implementation. There are two others :D | |
| 09:21 | we do not have a coding guideline, but an "old" endpoints | |
| 09:22 | ashimema | yes.. we should add a guidelines to match the existing implimentation |
| 09:22 | I'd still like to merge those tables and encourage Tomas to rebase that piece | |
| 09:22 | for holds in particular | |
| 09:22 | he did a nice job there and I don't know why it got stuck | |
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| 09:43 | cait | Joubu: can you remind me where to find the meeting tempalte? |
| 09:43 | i want to fix the Jitsi | |
| 09:49 | Joubu | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_meeting_Template |
| 09:49 | cait | thank you |
| 09:50 | ashimema | I alreadty did cait |
| 09:50 | cait | ashimema++ |
| 09:50 | ashimema | your irc is shit |
| 09:50 | cait | yeah, I realized that now! :) |
| 09:50 | ashimema | I PM'd you in three different places ☹️ |
| 09:50 | seems you didn't get any of them | |
| 09:50 | cait | i guess the others are the old matrix ones .( I was not aware they are still around |
| 09:50 | I don't see them | |
| 09:51 | I have turned it off as it created more problems witht he double up than it was helping | |
| 09:51 | ashimema | I have hundreds of them |
| 09:51 | * ashimema | is tired |
| 09:51 | cait | same |
| 09:51 | been a long week | |
| 09:51 | I have a meeting now, but I have the datatable patches ready to go - will put a bit on top and push later | |
| 09:54 | Joubu | I will stop writing patches for security bugs, so that we won't have to plan other security releases |
| 09:54 | cait | I undertand where you are coming from, but I believe that might not be the ideal solution |
| 09:57 | marcelr | Joubu: i know that feeling ;) |
| 09:58 | lets stop with enhancements too | |
| 09:58 | davewood_ | after a bulkimport.pl the background workers have issues. Koha version: 23.11.00.000 (details: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/19653) |
| 09:59 | marcelr | davewood_: there are no issues with background jobs :) |
| 09:59 | Joubu | marcelr: I am all for bugfixes and refactoring only! |
| 09:59 | davewood_ | marcelr: what do you mean? |
| 09:59 | Joubu | davewood_: bug 35819 |
| 09:59 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35819 critical, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , "No job found" error for BatchUpdateBiblioHoldsQueue (race condition) |
| 10:00 | marcelr | davewood_: there are |
| 10:00 | too much | |
| 10:00 | they will be solved in 31.05 | |
| 10:00 | Joubu | davewood_: can you confirm what are the background_jobs.type values for the ones stuck in "new"? |
| 10:00 | marcelr | sorry |
| 10:01 | Joubu | 35819 is the only critical one |
| 10:01 | known | |
| 10:01 | marcelr | hmm |
| 10:02 | Joubu does your bonus plan include credits for FQA :) | |
| 10:03 | ashimema | I was pondering a response to that this morning |
| 10:03 | but it was too early and my brain hadn't full woken up | |
| 10:03 | marcelr | and now it is too late already lol |
| 10:03 | ashimema | I'm not sure about it.. I think a lot of the issue isn't individuals.. it's companies and sponsors etc |
| 10:03 | Joubu | marcelr: everything is possible ;) |
| 10:04 | ashimema | I do think it's cool on a personal level though 🙂 |
| 10:04 | marcelr | i am thinking that we should not spend too much time on it? |
| 10:04 | ashimema | agreed |
| 10:04 | marcelr | we know that dashboard numbers dont tell the whole story |
| 10:05 | Joubu | we were looking for a solution yesterday to highlight what was done better |
| 10:05 | marcelr | yeah |
| 10:05 | davewood_ | select type, count(*) from background_jobs where status='new' group by type; => update_elastic_index | 129311 |
| 10:06 | marcelr | awful |
| 10:06 | ashimema | I tried to encourage more use of git trailers |
| 10:06 | davewood_ | is there a workaround that i can apply manually? |
| 10:07 | marcelr | look at that bug, but it is unfinished business |
| 10:07 | Joubu | and a side-project with fun technologies, starting from scratch, with (let's dream) have a correct management (kanban, etc.) could help add motivation to some devs as well |
| 10:07 | anyway, I won't push for it, my time is too limited for now | |
| 10:07 | davewood_ | i did look into the bug, i mean something like restarting some service that reruns the jobs. |
| 10:07 | ashimema | I think I'd rather see more public 'Badges' or something that both individuals or companies could use to highlight their staff's involvement (or individuals put on github for example to highlight their personal envolvement) |
| 10:08 | anywho.. I'm letting myself get distracted.. I looked into this sort of thing a while ago | |
| 10:08 | Joubu | davewood_: if it's just index, full reindex |
| 10:08 | davewood_ | alright, thanks |
| 10:08 | Joubu++ | |
| 10:09 | Joubu | ashimema: the number of * could be a 1k* badge for individual, or you could have "teams" as well, representing the companie |
| 10:09 | s | |
| 10:10 | ashimema | mm |
| 10:11 | marcelr | maybe we should stop with supporting too much versions ? |
| 10:11 | ashimema | LOL |
| 10:11 | I really argued against LTS | |
| 10:11 | and was overruled | |
| 10:11 | marcelr | the current problems prove that you were right |
| 10:11 | you shoudl also receive credit for that | |
| 10:12 | ashimema | haha |
| 10:12 | marcelr | ashimema++ |
| 10:12 | ashimema | I wish I wasn't 😜 |
| 10:12 | * ashimema | steps away for a few minutes.. I can feel myself slipping towards being grumpy again and will divert by doing some more QA |
| 10:13 | marcelr | great |
| 10:13 | Joubu | be brave and use master |
| 10:13 | ashimema | bug 34623 could be a fairly simple QA |
| 10:13 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34623 is not accessible. |
| 10:13 | ashimema | I couldn't find any issues in testing.. |
| 10:13 | * ashimema | would love a rolling release of builds that happen whenever Jenkins is green |
| 10:14 | ashimema | ptfs-e and bywater are both working towards tracking stable at the moment |
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| 10:14 | ashimema | so we're getting closer and closer to just going for it |
| 10:15 | Joubu | jenkins for master and stables should be green, always. Hence my suggestion to have "wip" branches on which we would run the full test suite and the push to the branches would be done by CI only if green |
| 10:15 | ashimema | I agree with that |
| 10:15 | marcelr | sounds good |
| 10:16 | ashimema | that's actually basically how our .ptfs branches work with Jenkins now |
| 10:16 | we trigger a package build on a successful test run | |
| 10:17 | we have a .ptfs branch which is just a little ahead of current stable.. as we push we watch Jenkins.. if it passes great.. we autobuild our package, push it to our repositories and it gets installed on servers shortly after | |
| 10:17 | if it fails, the package doesn't attempt to build at all.. we have to go fix it to pass tests before the build will happen | |
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| 10:33 | ashimema | marcelr still around? |
| 10:38 | marcelr | yeah just a but |
| 10:38 | bit | |
| 10:41 | ashimema | on bug 20065 you talk about plugins to maintain PID's in records |
| 10:41 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20065 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Perennial or persistent identifier implementation |
| 10:41 | ashimema | do you have an example anywhere? |
| 10:41 | is your one open? | |
| 10:42 | marcelr | yes i have them but the code is private |
| 10:42 | i could share with you surely | |
| 10:43 | send me a pm a reminder | |
| 10:43 | as | |
| 10:43 | ashimema | thanks 🙂 |
| 10:44 | marcelr | SO 117 and PQA 114 |
| 10:50 | ashimema | marcelr++ |
| 10:52 | marcelr | ok now we are below PQA with SO |
| 10:52 | two trivials | |
| 10:54 | for credits i suggest to multiply PQA * FQA :) | |
| 11:03 | cu l8r | |
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| 11:20 | tcohen | happy friday #koha o/ |
| 11:23 | oleonard | Busy morning! |
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| 11:33 | PedroAmorim[m] | @marcelr++ |
| 11:33 | huginn` | PedroAmorim[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 11:34 | PedroAmorim[m] | marcel++ |
| 11:34 | I'm trash at this =D | |
| 11:34 | marcelr++ | |
| 11:34 | tcohen | PedroAmorim[m] |
| 11:34 | PedroAmorim[m] | there we go |
| 11:34 | tcohen | PedroAmorim[m]++ |
| 12:24 | cait | tracking stable is fine if you have the resources for it |
| 12:25 | I think we can reduce the number of versions at elast by one, but I want to keep the LTS | |
| 12:25 | the 3 RMaints version was voted against... | |
| 12:29 | ashimema | xslt is hard ☹️ |
| 12:41 | Joubu | xslt is not for a Friday afternoon |
| 12:44 | aw-bib[m] | > tracking stable is fine if you have the resources for it |
| 12:44 | even though I know well that developers hate this, working at some small library I can tell from quite a few other projects that tacking a stable version released twice a year is quite challenging. diplomatically avoiding terms with a tendency towards "impossible" ;) (we e.g. have _no_ library IT) however, I have not yet enough experience with the deb-updates wrt inner changes. the ones I explicitly tried were quite painless. | |
| 12:44 | ym2ct | |
| 12:51 | magnuse | @quote get random |
| 12:51 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. |
| 12:51 | magnuse | @quote random |
| 12:51 | huginn` | magnuse: Quote #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git." (added by jcamins at 03:01 PM, June 28, 2012) |
| 12:51 | magnuse | @quote add Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon |
| 12:51 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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| 12:52 | magnuse | @quote add <Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon |
| 12:52 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 12:53 | fridolin | cait: hi, whooo blocker Bug 35687 i should wait for it to be in my next release right ? |
| 12:53 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail |
| 12:53 | fridolin | cait: any idea when it comes to master ? |
| 12:53 | magnuse | @quote add "<Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon" |
| 12:53 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 12:53 | * magnuse | gives up |
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| 12:56 | fridolin | ashimema: what XSLT pb ? |
| 12:57 | ashimema | it's not really a problem per say |
| 12:57 | it's just writing one from scratch is hard.. it's a labour | |
| 12:57 | bug 30554 | |
| 12:57 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Use XSLT in authority search cataloguing plugin |
| 12:57 | ashimema | I was trying to produce a MARC21 template that matches the non-xslt view |
| 12:58 | fridolin | ah sure |
| 12:58 | ashimema | and whilst I got a fair bit through it.. there's loads more to go |
| 12:58 | Julian did that for UNIMARC on the dependency bug.. at least I think that's what his template does | |
| 12:58 | not knowing UNIMARC I can't really comment | |
| 12:58 | fridolin | it creates a minimal display |
| 12:58 | ashimema | the one on that bug does |
| 12:59 | mine enhances that a lot | |
| 12:59 | fridolin | that will be a good start for custom display ;) |
| 12:59 | ashimema | but on bug 11083 he did a much more advanced template.. but unimarc only |
| 12:59 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=11083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Authority search result display in staff interface should be XSLT driven |
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| 12:59 | fridolin | one day we may consider using a more friendly code, maybe JavaScript, everyboady knows it ;) |
| 13:00 | ashimema | yeah |
| 13:00 | xslt is such a nightmare | |
| 13:00 | marc is hard enough to understand.. but then trying to translate it using xslt for display is just.. yuk | |
| 13:00 | fridolin | indeed, even does not allow HTML5 tags |
| 13:00 | must be XHTML | |
| 13:00 | * oleonard | has heard of JavaScript |
| 13:00 | ashimema | indeed |
| 13:00 | fridolin | ^^ |
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| 13:01 | fridolin | some first websites uses to be done with HTML generated client-side with an XSLT :D |
| 13:02 | Joubu | "it's fast" I think is why we keep it |
| 13:02 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | I have a question. I will be replacing a current Koch database with another one. The name of the current database is koha_k7000 and the new one is koha_lib04. How to perform the substitution |
| 13:02 | fridolin | but so poor in programming skils |
| 13:03 | not even a if else ^^ | |
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| 13:05 | cait | fridolin: today |
| 13:05 | it's the plan, I had a meeting this morning, but back on RM duty now (after lunch and making fresh tea) | |
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| 13:06 | oleonard | @quote add Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon |
| 13:06 | huginn` | oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 13:07 | cait | XSLT is fun, I don't know what your issue is ;) |
| 13:07 | oleonard | huginn` has very strict identification controls |
| 13:07 | huginn` | oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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| 13:16 | oleonard | PedroAmorim[m] around? |
| 13:16 | PedroAmorim[m] | hey |
| 13:17 | oleonard | Hi Pedro, I was just looking at Bug 35908 |
| 13:17 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , There is no length limit for what's presented in datatables |
| 13:17 | oleonard | I think there is a CSS alternative that would work well |
| 13:18 | Set a max-width on the <select>, and set text-overflow on the select to "ellipsis" | |
| 13:19 | cait | I like CSS |
| 13:19 | oleonard | This method would have the advantage of allowing the full text in the expanded dropdown |
| 13:20 | Joubu | oleonard: see also bug 34574, maybe you will find a nice solution as well ;) |
| 13:20 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34574 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, Signed Off , Datatables dropdown filter column header is potentially too wide |
| 13:20 | cait | aw-bib[m]: the problem is doing updates for 140 libraries that all use different features etc :) |
| 13:20 | Joubu | oleonard: from commen t5 |
| 13:21 | aw-bib[m] | @cait I support your argument for longer release cycles. updating 1 library with no staff might be as tricky as your 140 ;) |
| 13:21 | huginn` | aw-bib[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:21 | PedroAmorim[m] | oleonard: hey yeah thanks! I've tried a lot of different CSS solutions in bug 34574 without any fruitful success |
| 13:22 | Joubu | oleonard: well, it's exactly what you are talking about! |
| 13:22 | oleonard | yeah Joubu I hadn't seen that part |
| 13:22 | cait | ok, glad we agree ;D |
| 13:23 | fridolin: i got the bug on my branch now, push will dfinitely happen | |
| 13:23 | aw-bib[m] | cait: we perfectly agree on this end. we tried once to track invenio stable. no chance. |
| 13:24 | cait | I think there is use cases for everything... I undestand some need earlier access to specific features, but for most libraries they don't want a lot of updates/changes constantly |
| 13:24 | I know some of the bigger library systems have also cut back on releases | |
| 13:24 | aw-bib[m] | (one reason for koha, if you need an arguement, was the release cylce for invenio3 and the number of devops to track that.) |
| 13:25 | cait | how often do they release? |
| 13:25 | fridolin | great |
| 13:25 | PedroAmorim[m] | Joubu: my last patch in bug 34574 is meant to be the end of it (from me anyway). I think adding the CSS class is the best most elegant way of providing an easy option to those who wish to address this through CSS |
| 13:25 | aw-bib[m] | bascially, they try 4 a year and I think they support back 2 versions or so. |
| 13:26 | PedroAmorim[m] | Joubu: Bug 35908 is the place where the "real" issue is to be discussed, imo anyway |
| 13:26 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , There is no length limit for what's presented in datatables |
| 13:26 | aw-bib[m] | and of course not packaing. |
| 13:26 | cait | hm so that give snot much time for updating then, I see |
| 13:27 | aw-bib[m] | i tried hard to exlain them. and failed. |
| 13:28 | koha is a bit easier as it's an apt install. so I am sort of confident that you don't run away ;) | |
| 13:36 | paulderscheid[m] | Quick question is biblio -> biblioitem always a one-to-one relationship> |
| 13:36 | ? | |
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| 13:37 | oleonard | Yes, unless you're using Koha 1.x :) |
| 13:37 | paulderscheid[m] | Thanks oleonard |
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| 13:49 | magnuse | is there a way to tell what ip koha is seeing me as coming from when i use ktd on my local machine? |
| 13:50 | cait | hm apache log? |
| 13:50 | Joubu | docker inspect -f '{{range .NetworkSettings.Networks}}{{.IPAddress}}{{end}}' koha-koha-1 |
| 13:50 | or you want the reverse | |
| 13:51 | cait | oleonard: should the "dot" be there? https://snipboard.io/MUGQXh.jpg |
| 13:51 | Joubu | ip addr should show you docker0 with the IP |
| 13:52 | oleonard | cait: It is intentional, as a divider, but obviously is inconsistent with the | divider above it |
| 13:52 | (not a change made by the patch) | |
| 13:53 | cait | yeah, I will still push the patch, I was just wondering |
| 13:54 | magnuse | Joubu: thanks! |
| 14:02 | oleonard | I remember the wild west days where multiple folks had privilege to push in CVS and we just PUSHED STUFF XD |
| 14:03 | Joubu | ho yes, the sec bug from this morning.. :D |
| 14:03 | not that bad but still.. | |
| 14:04 | magnuse | Joubu: yeah, having a look. cait's tip about the logs worked better for the ip, though :-) |
| 14:08 | tcohen | hey y'all, can we just merge reserves and old_reserves for good this cycle? |
| 14:09 | cait | once you got the security releases out... you can do whatever you want - you get a free pass from me ;) |
| 14:09 | first big push incoming soon'ish | |
| 14:12 | ashimema | is it applying tcohen |
| 14:12 | I'm well and truly onboard with that one | |
| 14:13 | cait | 50 commits :D |
| 14:13 | caroline | cait++ |
| 14:14 | cait | caroline: let's see what we break first ;) |
| 14:14 | caroline | eh, it's early still |
| 14:15 | cait | for you :) |
| 14:15 | kidclamp | bug 35518 - eyes please? |
| 14:15 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35518 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Call to C4::Context->userenv happens before it's gets populated breaks code logic |
| 14:16 | Joubu | everybody asking help :D |
| 14:16 | can I as well? | |
| 14:16 | we actually need a swap market app | |
| 14:17 | kidclamp | :-) |
| 14:17 | cait | swap review and dev stuff? |
| 14:17 | tcohen | Anything |
| 14:18 | cait | cookies? |
| 14:20 | tcohen | Definitely |
| 14:21 | Joubu | there is security bugs otherwise, with patches... |
| 14:22 | should just be highest priority for everybody but... well... | |
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| 14:22 | Joubu | not for a Friday afternoon I guess |
| 14:23 | tcohen | the AutoLocation one? |
| 14:23 | (s) | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | for example |
| 14:25 | cait | fridolin: it's pushed |
| 14:28 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | hello ! where can I get help and my issues resolved |
| 14:28 | caroline | AbhinavJoshi[m], depends on the issues, but here or the mailing list are good starting points |
| 14:29 | ask your question and if someone can answer, they will | |
| 14:29 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | Okayy Thank you ! |
| 14:29 | I created a MARC framework but after saving the framework adding bibliographic information the next page shows blank. While I have added 952tag in the file. | |
| 14:30 | * AbhinavJoshi[m] | posted a file: (7KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]20frameworkkk.csv > |
| 14:30 | caroline | are all the subfields for 952 in the tab "10"? |
| 14:31 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | I don't think so |
| 14:31 | caroline | well, 10 or "ignore" |
| 14:31 | Joubu | kidclamp: 35518 - how do we catch other possible occurrences? |
| 14:31 | caroline | you can run the framework test, it might give you a hint on what's wrong |
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| 14:33 | caroline | Ah, I think I see the problem. Make sure all the 952 subfields you need have "Editor" checked |
| 14:34 | oh I see some are at 0, that should be visible | |
| 14:34 | I thought I saw they were all at hidden=5 | |
| 14:35 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | yeah some are hidden at 5 |
| 14:35 | caroline | that should be ok I think |
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| 14:36 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | caroline: I'll check & test |
| 14:36 | kidclamp | Joubu: I guess we need to check that 'userenv' never comes before get_templte or check_api_auth? or whatever routines we can use for auth |
| 14:40 | cait | working on the next batch of bug fixes... |
| 14:41 | caroline | AbhinavJoshi[m], I tried the framework, and I see the page to add items. I don't think the problem is with the framework |
| 14:41 | cait | Joubu: jenkins hasn't started yet - is that to be expected? |
| 14:42 | Joubu | gitlab needs to mirror |
| 14:42 | cait | hm ok |
| 14:43 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | caroline: owww |
| 14:43 | caroline | are you able to add items with other frameworks? |
| 14:44 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | I saw it too now |
| 14:44 | * AbhinavJoshi[m] | uploaded an image: (301KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]CgllJeL/image.png > |
| 14:44 | caroline | ha! yay! :) |
| 14:49 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | caroline thank you so much |
| 14:49 | caroline | AbhinavJoshi[m], you're very welcome, I love a good resolution :) |
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| 15:24 | oleonard | Oh yay! DataTables upgrade! |
| 15:24 | ashimema | oooh.. |
| 15:24 | chatgpt does a half decent job on refactoring xslt 🙂 | |
| 15:33 | caroline | I've found it's pretty good with code and composing texts. Dont ask for facts though ;) |
| 15:34 | I asked it to explain the FindDuplicate function to me "in layman's terms" the other day, and it did a pretty good job of breaking it down and explaining it to me | |
| 15:35 | Joubu | only AI can explain FindDuplicate |
| 15:35 | caroline | lol! |
| 15:36 | Joubu | next time try with get_template_and_user |
| 15:50 | krimsonkharne[m] | see if it can explain holds logic... |
| 15:57 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | which MARC tags should I include for a customized framework for Books? |
| 15:59 | cait | you always want LDR |
| 15:59 | never delete/hide that one | |
| 15:59 | also 990 | |
| 16:00 | caroline | 990? |
| 16:00 | cait | biblionumber? |
| 16:00 | caroline | 999 |
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| 16:00 | cait | oh :) |
| 16:00 | you are right | |
| 16:00 | but are we talking empty framework or just something where fields are hidden? | |
| 16:00 | caroline | ok I thought I was missing something lol |
| 16:01 | 000, 008, 952 (items), 999 (hidden) are the minimum I think | |
| 16:01 | and title 245 of couerse | |
| 16:01 | *course | |
| 16:01 | cait | oh no |
| 16:01 | we got a failing test | |
| 16:01 | all yellooow | |
| 16:01 | hm or 9 | |
| 16:02 | * AbhinavJoshi[m] | uploaded an image: (25KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]WrJihwD/image.png > |
| 16:02 | cait | hm that's odd, I ran the qa tools on it: not ok - Test::Perl::Critic for "C4/Utils/DataTables/VirtualShelves.pm" |
| 16:02 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | i have included these |
| 16:02 | caroline | You'll probably have to add 999 like cait said |
| 16:03 | AbhinavJoshi[m] | okkk |
| 16:03 | caroline | and I don't know if it makes a difference 000 vs 0 or 20 vs 020 |
| 16:03 | cait | oleonard: still arond? |
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| 16:37 | cait | hm I ran a lot of the tests locally... but didn't see the datatables issues, I need to work on my process too |
| 17:18 | reiveune | bye |
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