IRC log for #koha, 2024-01-26

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01:18 mtj hi tcohen, can you get them to log a bug, re http-tiny?
01:18 ..i had a look, and it seems ok to me
01:34 hmm, seems the pkg is removed from deb11
01:34 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=962407
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01:54 mtj ...but is included in 'perl' pkg, instead
01:56 so, looks like everything should be ok, for all supported deb/ubuntu versions
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02:44 saa how to correctly import date acquired date in 952$d
02:45 though we tried to import from excel to marc and then to koha after import the date does not get imported properly and it brings wrong date
02:46 can anyone suggest how to configure excel properly especially for date and then import data in marc and then to koha
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07:05 marcelr o/
07:06 ashimema Morning #koha
07:12 reiveune hello
07:14 marcelr hi ashimema reiveune
07:15 Joubu @later tell tuxayo did you have a look at my alternative patch on 35506?
07:15 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:16 Joubu hi marcelr, ashimema!
07:16 marcelr o/
07:16 Joubu marcelr: seen sec bug?
07:17 you will love it, it's about auth :D
07:18 ashimema /me is grumpy about the security release.. we really must get better at this :-(
07:18 marcelr yeah, this did not look good
07:19 Joubu, yes I saw about AutoLocation
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07:37 Joubu marcelr: fun on bug 35918 as well...
07:37 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35918 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , Incorrect library used when AutoLocation configured using the same IP
07:38 marcelr hmm does not recommend using AutoLocation
07:39 Joubu not if you think it will protect you...
07:39 marcelr i would use iptables or nginx etc to do so
07:40 Joubu code from 2006..
07:40 marcelr remove it !
07:40 how many people use it ? is it on HEA?
07:42 Joubu 173
07:53 marcelr: patch coming, writing test
07:54 marcelr yes thats not very much :)
07:57 tuxayo Joubu: hi :) I've seen the notifications, I'll look in the details and try to test quickly.
07:58 marcelr 107 in PQA ?!
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08:05 fridolin yellow
08:07 ashimema 108
08:08 45 of which are marked as Bugs
08:08 cait is waiting on security release too
08:08 everything it backlogs
08:08 backlogged
08:08 even
08:08 130 in the QA queue too
08:08 the numbers are upsetting right now
08:09 cait yeah, the plan is to unlock it a bit today
08:09 I might need help with a rebase for the one patch later on, but I think that's the smaller price
08:09 we agreed to open up the datatables bug, right?
08:09 ashimema yes
08:10 cait shoudl we do it immediately or do I just push and we do it later on?
08:10 ashimema done
08:10 cait ok, so I need to tidy ma branch a little, then will resume
08:12 tuxayo > waiting on security release too
08:12 bug 35687 should be included, right?
08:12 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail
08:12 tuxayo > we agreed to open up the datatables bug, right?
08:12 got my answer ^^
08:12 cait we are ina bad in between state now
08:13 most branches are ready, some are not
08:13 Joubu @later tell khall ping 35353 :)
08:13 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:13 cait the older ones had trouble with backporting
08:13 Joubu @later tell kidclamp can you ping khall for 35353 for me please :)
08:13 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:16 ashimema Where is the 22.11 security branch.. it's not in the repos yet at all
08:18 cait I think not pushed because of the failing test
08:18 fredericd: around maybe?
08:19 Joubu tcohen: please have a look at bug 35353 comment 5. (related with 35247 and 35560)
08:19 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add API endpoint to fetch patron's previous holds
08:19 Joubu 3 different implemtation for the same thing, do not change koha...
08:19 @later tell tcohen please have a look at bug 35353 comment 5. (related with 35247 and 35560)
08:19 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:21 ashimema We could help if it was pushed
08:21 Whilst it's only on his pc it's hard for us to help
08:21 And very hard for those below to backport
08:27 cait++
08:31 cait I guess great minds think alike ;)
08:33 marcelr great_minds++
08:36 Joubu cait: did you see my reply about the failing tests?
08:36 tests are failing for months on this branch
08:37 cait I think they didn't know as they are trying to fill in
08:38 if someone took a look and verified it's not related to the backports it would probably help?
08:38 also... shoudl we not still fix them?
08:39 Joubu actually provided fixes to fix them...
08:39 2 months ago
08:39 they didn't know?
08:39 jenkins?
08:40 I told them it is failing for months, and provided fix 2 months ago, not sure what else I can do...
08:40 and I am out of this now
08:40 cait the patches are ont hte bugs?
08:40 Joubu please read my last email
08:40 cait just found it
08:42 Joubu marcelr: bug 35817 comment 3... hum... did you read the diff?
08:42 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35817 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Failed QA , Wrong hint on patron's category when batch update patron
08:42 cait hm my ktd up with elastic takes unusually long today
08:43 hm ok - Elastic is just complainy
08:44 marcelr no Joubu, qa tools complained
09:18 ashimema we really need an api coding guideline around 'old' endpoints
09:18 I'm fed up of getting stuck in the same discussions each time
09:20 Joubu we have one, for checkouts. IMO we should implement the same (consistency) for holds.
09:21 that's my implementation. There are two others :D
09:21 we do not have a coding guideline, but an "old" endpoints
09:22 ashimema yes.. we should add a guidelines to match the existing implimentation
09:22 I'd still like to merge those tables and encourage Tomas to rebase that piece
09:22 for holds in particular
09:22 he did a nice job there and I don't know why it got stuck
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09:43 cait Joubu: can you remind me where to find the meeting tempalte?
09:43 i want to fix the Jitsi
09:49 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_meeting_Template
09:49 cait thank you
09:50 ashimema I alreadty did cait
09:50 cait ashimema++
09:50 ashimema your irc is shit
09:50 cait yeah, I realized that now! :)
09:50 ashimema I PM'd you in three different places ☹️
09:50 seems you didn't get any of them
09:50 cait i guess the others are the old matrix ones .( I was not aware they are still around
09:50 I don't see them
09:51 I have turned it off as it created more problems witht he double up than it was helping
09:51 ashimema I have hundreds of them
09:51 * ashimema is tired
09:51 cait same
09:51 been a long week
09:51 I have a meeting now, but I have the datatable patches ready to go - will put a bit on top and push later
09:54 Joubu I will stop writing patches for security bugs, so that we won't have to plan other security releases
09:54 cait I undertand where you are coming from, but I believe that might not be the ideal solution
09:57 marcelr Joubu: i know that feeling ;)
09:58 lets stop with enhancements too
09:58 davewood_ after a bulkimport.pl the background workers have issues. Koha version: 23.11.00.000 (details: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/19653)
09:59 marcelr davewood_: there are no issues with background jobs :)
09:59 Joubu marcelr: I am all for bugfixes and refactoring only!
09:59 davewood_ marcelr: what do you mean?
09:59 Joubu davewood_: bug 35819
09:59 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35819 critical, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , "No job found" error for BatchUpdateBiblioHoldsQueue (race condition)
10:00 marcelr davewood_: there are
10:00 too much
10:00 they will be solved in 31.05
10:00 Joubu davewood_: can you confirm what are the background_jobs.type values for the ones stuck in "new"?
10:00 marcelr sorry
10:01 Joubu 35819 is the only critical one
10:01 known
10:01 marcelr hmm
10:02 Joubu does your bonus plan include credits for FQA :)
10:03 ashimema I was pondering a response to that this morning
10:03 but it was too early and my brain hadn't full woken up
10:03 marcelr and now it is too late already lol
10:03 ashimema I'm not sure about it.. I think a lot of the issue isn't individuals.. it's companies and sponsors etc
10:03 Joubu marcelr: everything is possible ;)
10:04 ashimema I do think it's cool on a personal level though 🙂
10:04 marcelr i am thinking that we should not spend too much time on it?
10:04 ashimema agreed
10:04 marcelr we know that dashboard numbers dont tell the whole story
10:05 Joubu we were looking for a solution yesterday to highlight what was done better
10:05 marcelr yeah
10:05 davewood_ select type, count(*) from background_jobs where status='new' group by type; => update_elastic_index | 129311
10:06 marcelr awful
10:06 ashimema I tried to encourage more use of git trailers
10:06 davewood_ is there a workaround that i can apply manually?
10:07 marcelr look at that bug, but it is unfinished business
10:07 Joubu and a side-project with fun technologies, starting from scratch, with (let's dream) have a correct management (kanban, etc.) could help add motivation to some devs as well
10:07 anyway, I won't push for it, my time is too limited for now
10:07 davewood_ i did look into the bug, i mean something like restarting some service that reruns the jobs.
10:07 ashimema I think I'd rather see more public 'Badges' or something that both individuals or companies could use to highlight their staff's involvement (or individuals put on github for example to highlight their personal envolvement)
10:08 anywho.. I'm letting myself get distracted.. I looked into this sort of thing a while ago
10:08 Joubu davewood_: if it's just index, full reindex
10:08 davewood_ alright, thanks
10:08 Joubu++
10:09 Joubu ashimema: the number of * could be a 1k* badge for individual, or you could have "teams" as well, representing the companie
10:09 s
10:10 ashimema mm
10:11 marcelr maybe we should stop with supporting too much versions ?
10:11 ashimema LOL
10:11 I really argued against LTS
10:11 and was overruled
10:11 marcelr the current problems prove that you were right
10:11 you shoudl also receive credit for that
10:12 ashimema haha
10:12 marcelr ashimema++
10:12 ashimema I wish I wasn't 😜
10:12 * ashimema steps away for a few minutes.. I can feel myself slipping towards being grumpy again and will divert by doing some more QA
10:13 marcelr great
10:13 Joubu be brave and use master
10:13 ashimema bug 34623 could be a fairly simple QA
10:13 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34623 is not accessible.
10:13 ashimema I couldn't find any issues in testing..
10:13 * ashimema would love a rolling release of builds that happen whenever Jenkins is green
10:14 ashimema ptfs-e and bywater are both working towards tracking stable at the moment
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10:14 ashimema so we're getting closer and closer to just going for it
10:15 Joubu jenkins for master and stables should be green, always. Hence my suggestion to have "wip" branches on which we would run the full test suite and the push to the branches would be done by CI only if green
10:15 ashimema I agree with that
10:15 marcelr sounds good
10:16 ashimema that's actually basically how our .ptfs branches work with Jenkins now
10:16 we trigger a package build on a successful test run
10:17 we have a .ptfs branch which is just a little ahead of current stable.. as we push we watch Jenkins.. if it passes great.. we autobuild our package, push it to our repositories and it gets installed on servers shortly after
10:17 if it fails, the package doesn't attempt to build at all.. we have to go fix it to pass tests before the build will happen
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10:33 ashimema marcelr still around?
10:38 marcelr yeah just a but
10:38 bit
10:41 ashimema on bug 20065 you talk about plugins to maintain PID's in records
10:41 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20065 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Perennial or persistent identifier implementation
10:41 ashimema do you have an example anywhere?
10:41 is your one open?
10:42 marcelr yes i have them but the code is private
10:42 i could share with you surely
10:43 send me a pm a reminder
10:43 as
10:43 ashimema thanks 🙂
10:44 marcelr SO 117 and PQA 114
10:50 ashimema marcelr++
10:52 marcelr ok now we are below PQA with SO
10:52 two trivials
10:54 for credits i suggest to multiply PQA * FQA :)
11:03 cu l8r
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11:20 tcohen happy friday #koha o/
11:23 oleonard Busy morning!
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11:33 PedroAmorim[m] @marcelr++
11:33 huginn` PedroAmorim[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
11:34 PedroAmorim[m] marcel++
11:34 I'm trash at this =D
11:34 marcelr++
11:34 tcohen PedroAmorim[m]
11:34 PedroAmorim[m] there we go
11:34 tcohen PedroAmorim[m]++
12:24 cait tracking stable is fine if you have the resources for it
12:25 I think we can reduce the number of versions at elast by one, but I want to keep the LTS
12:25 the 3 RMaints version was voted against...
12:29 ashimema xslt is hard ☹️
12:41 Joubu xslt is not for a Friday afternoon
12:44 aw-bib[m] > tracking stable is fine if you have the resources for it
12:44 even though I know well that developers hate this, working at some small library I can tell from quite a few other projects that tacking a stable version released twice a year is quite challenging.  diplomatically avoiding terms with a tendency towards "impossible" ;) (we e.g. have _no_ library IT) however, I have not yet enough experience with the deb-updates wrt inner changes. the ones I explicitly tried were quite painless.
12:44 ym2ct
12:51 magnuse @quote get random
12:51 huginn` magnuse: Error: 'random' is not a valid id.
12:51 magnuse @quote random
12:51 huginn` magnuse: Quote #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git." (added by jcamins at 03:01 PM, June 28, 2012)
12:51 magnuse @quote add Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon
12:51 huginn` magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
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12:52 magnuse @quote add <Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon
12:52 huginn` magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
12:53 fridolin cait: hi, whooo blocker Bug 35687 i should wait for it to be in my next release right ?
12:53 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail
12:53 fridolin cait: any idea when it comes to master ?
12:53 magnuse @quote add "<Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon"
12:53 huginn` magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
12:53 * magnuse gives up
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12:56 fridolin ashimema: what XSLT pb ?
12:57 ashimema it's not really a problem per say
12:57 it's just writing one from scratch is hard.. it's a labour
12:57 bug 30554
12:57 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Use XSLT in authority search cataloguing plugin
12:57 ashimema I was trying to produce a MARC21 template that matches the non-xslt view
12:58 fridolin ah sure
12:58 ashimema and whilst I got a fair bit through it.. there's loads more to go
12:58 Julian did that for UNIMARC on the dependency bug.. at least I think that's what his template does
12:58 not knowing UNIMARC I can't really comment
12:58 fridolin it creates a minimal display
12:58 ashimema the one on that bug does
12:59 mine enhances that a lot
12:59 fridolin that will be a good start for custom display ;)
12:59 ashimema but on bug 11083 he did a much more advanced template.. but unimarc only
12:59 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=11083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Authority search result display in staff interface should be XSLT driven
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12:59 fridolin one day we may consider using a more friendly code, maybe JavaScript, everyboady knows it ;)
13:00 ashimema yeah
13:00 xslt is such a nightmare
13:00 marc is hard enough to understand.. but then trying to translate it using xslt for display is just.. yuk
13:00 fridolin indeed, even does not allow HTML5 tags
13:00 must be XHTML
13:00 * oleonard has heard of JavaScript
13:00 ashimema indeed
13:00 fridolin ^^
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13:01 fridolin some first websites uses to be done with HTML generated client-side with an XSLT :D
13:02 Joubu "it's fast" I think is why we keep it
13:02 NikolayGospodinov[m] I have a question. I will be replacing a current Koch database with another one. The name of the current database is koha_k7000 and the new one is koha_lib04. How to perform the substitution
13:02 fridolin but so poor in programming skils
13:03 not even a if else ^^
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13:05 cait fridolin: today
13:05 it's the plan, I had a meeting this morning, but back on RM duty now (after lunch and making fresh tea)
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13:06 oleonard @quote add Joubu> xslt is not for a Friday afternoon
13:06 huginn` oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:07 cait XSLT is fun, I don't know what your issue is ;)
13:07 oleonard huginn` has very strict identification controls
13:07 huginn` oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
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13:16 oleonard PedroAmorim[m] around?
13:16 PedroAmorim[m] hey
13:17 oleonard Hi Pedro, I was just looking at Bug 35908
13:17 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , There is no length limit for what's presented in datatables
13:17 oleonard I think there is a CSS alternative that would work well
13:18 Set a max-width on the <select>, and set text-overflow on the select to "ellipsis"
13:19 cait I like CSS
13:19 oleonard This method would have the advantage of allowing the full text in the expanded dropdown
13:20 Joubu oleonard: see also bug 34574, maybe you will find a nice solution as well ;)
13:20 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34574 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, Signed Off , Datatables dropdown filter column header is potentially too wide
13:20 cait aw-bib[m]: the problem is doing updates for 140 libraries that all use different features etc :)
13:20 Joubu oleonard: from commen t5
13:21 aw-bib[m] @cait I support your argument for longer release cycles. updating 1 library with no staff might be as tricky as your 140 ;)
13:21 huginn` aw-bib[m]: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
13:21 PedroAmorim[m] oleonard: hey yeah thanks! I've tried a lot of different CSS solutions in bug 34574 without any fruitful success
13:22 Joubu oleonard: well, it's exactly what you are talking about!
13:22 oleonard yeah Joubu I hadn't seen that part
13:22 cait ok, glad we agree ;D
13:23 fridolin: i got the bug on my branch now, push will dfinitely happen
13:23 aw-bib[m] cait: we perfectly agree on this end. we tried once to track invenio stable. no chance.
13:24 cait I think there is use cases for everything... I undestand some need earlier access to specific features, but for most libraries they don't want a lot of updates/changes constantly
13:24 I know some of the bigger library systems have also cut back on releases
13:24 aw-bib[m] (one reason for koha, if you need an arguement, was the release cylce for invenio3 and the number of devops to track that.)
13:25 cait how often do they release?
13:25 fridolin great
13:25 PedroAmorim[m] Joubu: my last patch in bug 34574 is meant to be the end of it (from me anyway). I think adding the CSS class is the best most elegant way of providing an easy option to those who wish to address this through CSS
13:25 aw-bib[m] bascially, they try 4 a year and I think they support back 2 versions or so.
13:26 PedroAmorim[m] Joubu: Bug 35908 is the place where the "real" issue is to be discussed, imo anyway
13:26 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , There is no length limit for what's presented in datatables
13:26 aw-bib[m] and of course not packaing.
13:26 cait hm so that give snot much time for updating then, I see
13:27 aw-bib[m] i tried hard to exlain them. and failed.
13:28 koha is a bit easier as it's an apt install. so I am sort of confident that you don't run away  ;)
13:36 paulderscheid[m] Quick question is biblio -> biblioitem always a one-to-one relationship>
13:36 ?
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13:37 oleonard Yes, unless you're using Koha 1.x :)
13:37 paulderscheid[m] Thanks oleonard
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13:49 magnuse is there a way to tell what ip koha is seeing me as coming from when i use ktd on my local machine?
13:50 cait hm apache log?
13:50 Joubu docker inspect -f '{{range .NetworkSettings.Networks}}{{.IPAddress}}{{end}}' koha-koha-1
13:50 or you want the reverse
13:51 cait oleonard: should the "dot" be there? https://snipboard.io/MUGQXh.jpg
13:51 Joubu ip addr should show you docker0 with the IP
13:52 oleonard cait: It is intentional, as a divider, but obviously is inconsistent with the | divider above it
13:52 (not a change made by the patch)
13:53 cait yeah, I will still push the patch, I was just wondering
13:54 magnuse Joubu: thanks!
14:02 oleonard I remember the wild west days where multiple folks had privilege to push in CVS and we just PUSHED STUFF XD
14:03 Joubu ho yes, the sec bug from this morning.. :D
14:03 not that bad but still..
14:04 magnuse Joubu: yeah, having a look. cait's tip about the logs worked better for the ip, though :-)
14:08 tcohen hey y'all, can we just merge reserves and old_reserves for good this cycle?
14:09 cait once you got the security releases out... you can do whatever you want - you get a free pass from me ;)
14:09 first big push incoming soon'ish
14:12 ashimema is it applying tcohen
14:12 I'm well and truly onboard with that one
14:13 cait 50 commits :D
14:13 caroline cait++
14:14 cait caroline: let's see what we break first ;)
14:14 caroline eh, it's early still
14:15 cait for you :)
14:15 kidclamp bug 35518 - eyes please?
14:15 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35518 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Call to C4::Context->userenv happens before it's gets populated breaks code logic
14:16 Joubu everybody asking help :D
14:16 can I as well?
14:16 we actually need a swap market app
14:17 kidclamp :-)
14:17 cait swap review and dev stuff?
14:17 tcohen Anything
14:18 cait cookies?
14:20 tcohen Definitely
14:21 Joubu there is security bugs otherwise, with patches...
14:22 should just be highest priority for everybody but... well...
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14:22 Joubu not for a Friday afternoon I guess
14:23 tcohen the AutoLocation one?
14:23 (s)
14:24 Joubu for example
14:25 cait fridolin: it's pushed
14:28 AbhinavJoshi[m] hello ! where can I get help and my issues resolved
14:28 caroline AbhinavJoshi[m], depends on the issues, but here or the mailing list are good starting points
14:29 ask your question and if someone can answer, they will
14:29 AbhinavJoshi[m] Okayy Thank you !
14:29 I created a MARC framework but after saving the framework adding bibliographic information the next page shows blank. While I have added 952tag in the file.
14:30 * AbhinavJoshi[m] posted a file: (7KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]20frameworkkk.csv >
14:30 caroline are all the subfields for 952 in the tab "10"?
14:31 AbhinavJoshi[m] I don't think so
14:31 caroline well, 10 or "ignore"
14:31 Joubu kidclamp: 35518 - how do we catch other possible occurrences?
14:31 caroline you can run the framework test, it might give you a hint on what's wrong
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14:33 caroline Ah, I think I see the problem. Make sure all the 952 subfields you need have "Editor" checked
14:34 oh I see some are at 0, that should be visible
14:34 I thought I saw they were all at hidden=5
14:35 AbhinavJoshi[m] yeah some are hidden at 5
14:35 caroline that should be ok I think
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14:36 AbhinavJoshi[m] caroline: I'll check & test
14:36 kidclamp Joubu: I guess we need to check that 'userenv' never comes before get_templte or check_api_auth? or whatever routines we can use for auth
14:40 cait working on the next batch of bug fixes...
14:41 caroline AbhinavJoshi[m], I tried the framework, and I see the page to add items. I don't think the problem is with the framework
14:41 cait Joubu: jenkins hasn't started yet - is that to be expected?
14:42 Joubu gitlab needs to mirror
14:42 cait hm ok
14:43 AbhinavJoshi[m] caroline: owww
14:43 caroline are you able to add items with other frameworks?
14:44 AbhinavJoshi[m] I saw it too now
14:44 * AbhinavJoshi[m] uploaded an image: (301KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]CgllJeL/image.png >
14:44 caroline ha! yay! :)
14:49 AbhinavJoshi[m] caroline thank you  so much
14:49 caroline AbhinavJoshi[m], you're very welcome, I love a good resolution :)
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15:24 oleonard Oh yay! DataTables upgrade!
15:24 ashimema oooh..
15:24 chatgpt does a half decent job on refactoring xslt 🙂
15:33 caroline I've found it's pretty good with code and composing texts. Dont ask for facts though ;)
15:34 I asked it to explain the FindDuplicate function to me "in layman's terms" the other day, and it did a pretty good job of breaking it down and explaining it to me
15:35 Joubu only AI can explain FindDuplicate
15:35 caroline lol!
15:36 Joubu next time try with get_template_and_user
15:50 krimsonkharne[m] see if it can explain holds logic...
15:57 AbhinavJoshi[m] which MARC tags should I include for a customized framework for Books?
15:59 cait you always want LDR
15:59 never delete/hide that one
15:59 also 990
16:00 caroline 990?
16:00 cait biblionumber?
16:00 caroline 999
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16:00 cait oh :)
16:00 you are right
16:00 but are we talking empty framework or just something where fields are hidden?
16:00 caroline ok I thought I was missing something lol
16:01 000, 008, 952 (items), 999 (hidden) are the minimum I think
16:01 and title 245 of couerse
16:01 *course
16:01 cait oh no
16:01 we got a failing test
16:01 all yellooow
16:01 hm or 9
16:02 * AbhinavJoshi[m] uploaded an image: (25KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]WrJihwD/image.png >
16:02 cait hm that's odd, I ran the qa tools on it: not ok - Test::Perl::Critic for "C4/Utils/DataTables/VirtualShelves.pm"
16:02 AbhinavJoshi[m] i have included these
16:02 caroline You'll probably have to add 999 like cait said
16:03 AbhinavJoshi[m] okkk
16:03 caroline and I don't know if it makes a difference 000 vs 0 or 20 vs 020
16:03 cait oleonard: still arond?
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16:37 cait hm I ran a lot of the tests locally... but didn't see the datatables issues, I need to work on my process too
17:18 reiveune bye
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