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08:01 | Joubu | davidnind: around? Did you fix your .po files problem in ktd? |
08:01 | schnydszch | Good day! I am trying out again Koha development. I tried pushing my commit for Bug no. 35238, git log is: commit 0c8cf6d6c507f946da3deff493044c394096ee6b (HEAD -> master) |
08:01 | Author: Eugene Jose Espinoza <eugenegfyahoo.com> | |
08:01 | Date: Tue Dec 5 07:51:08 2023 +0000 | |
08:01 | Bug 35238: Incorrect label markup in patron card creator printer profile edit form | |
08:01 | The label for "template_name" doesn't match any form field, so it is edited to a span with "label" class. | |
08:01 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35238 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Incorrect label markup in patron card creator printer profile edit form |
08:02 | schnydszch | Was my patched pushed for this bug? I am not seeing it in the koha bugzilla website |
08:02 | Joubu | how did you "push" it? |
08:03 | Not related to your question, but the commit title should describe what the patch does, not what the problem is. | |
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08:08 | schnydszch | git commit -a |
08:09 | Joubu | if you want to edit the last commit: git commit --amend |
08:10 | if you want to attach the last commit to the bugzilla bug report: git bz attach -e 35238 HEAD | |
08:13 | schnydszch | oh, i missed that part. thanks Joubu! |
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08:57 | Joubu | restarting weblate |
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09:14 | cait | if someone wants to join us - German Koha User meeting is live :) https://koha-dach.eu |
09:14 | davidnind | cait++ |
09:16 | cait | zoom link is on the website |
09:19 | davidnind | Joubu: it may just be because I tried fr-FR first (other languages seem OK) - with fr-FR I get an error when installing on a MARC21 instance |
09:19 | perl misc/translator/translate update fr-FR... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]jzQEozkAWAaSpISaG>) | |
09:19 | cait | in de-DE there is also an error |
09:20 | Joubu | davidnind: go to misc/translator/po |
09:21 | and `ls fr-FR-*` | |
09:21 | what to you see? nothing? | |
09:22 | davidnind | drwxr-xr-x 3 kohadev-koha kohadev-koha 4096 Nov 19 20:09 fr_FR... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]rnNfPqiuQoFtGeuld>) |
09:24 | Joubu | git pull |
09:24 | in misc/translator/po | |
09:24 | from outside ktd | |
09:26 | davidnind | daviddavid-thinkpad-t14:~/git-koha/koha/misc/translator/po$ git pull... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]yPvwGeAaCaIsMxrNS>) |
09:27 | cait | Joubu: could we get notes on how to test tranlsations with ktd somewhere? |
09:27 | or maybe we have, but didn't find them | |
09:27 | davidnind | I created a branch in KTD called test, the git pull was done outside |
09:27 | Joubu | davidnind: do you have ktd startup log? |
09:27 | you should see "koha-koha-1 | Install Koha-how-to" | |
09:28 | cait: nothing to do, for the first time. For second time you need to understand what's going on. I have written a lot of info already. Please ask specific questions and I will answer. | |
09:29 | cait | hm I had to clone the repo |
09:29 | it wa snot in my ktd and i had created a fresh one | |
09:29 | i did not find steps on this | |
09:29 | Joubu | there are 2 commmon mistakes: 1. Permission in misc/translator/po is not correct, ktd startup won't manage to adjust the directory content |
09:29 | cait | the files were not there |
09:29 | i checked that | |
09:30 | ashimema | have you recently done a ktd pul |
09:30 | Joubu | 2. You have played with translations, and misc/translator/po has modified files. You need to reset --hard manually before starting ktd, or do the pull after you have started it |
09:30 | cait | yes, I did that before... i can do it again if it's uspposed to work |
09:30 | Joubu | it is supposed to work |
09:30 | cait | ah maybe becuase i had translations installed before |
09:30 | i will test that | |
09:30 | i noticed in po directory where some .mo files | |
09:31 | pastebot | "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "KTD startup log" (575 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/31673 |
09:31 | Joubu | that's not expected |
09:31 | cait | I'll clean up my repo and try again |
09:31 | davidnind | I will try again with everything fresh |
09:31 | cait | I was not sure if ti was supposed to just work or not yet |
09:31 | Joubu | davidnind: you are in the second situation I described before. The error in the log is: |
09:31 | koha-koha-1 | error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by checkout: | |
09:32 | so go to misc/translator/po and `git reset --hard HEAD` then pull again | |
09:32 | ktd startup does not do it because I don't think a script should reset --hard | |
09:33 | we can reconsider it if it causes too much trouble, but I would prefer if people to understand what's happening. | |
09:33 | cait | we just reached 135 participants :) (German speaking user meeting) |
09:33 | davidnind | so do that outside KTD? |
09:33 | excellent! | |
09:35 | Joubu | yes, outside ktd, so that you don't do FS manipulation under root (that would cause permission issue next time you start ktd!) |
09:38 | davidnind | before or after starting up KTD? |
09:39 | have read back - before starting KTD... | |
09:40 | Joubu | as you want |
09:41 | misc/translator/po is a git repo tracking koha-l10n. When ktd starts it will update this repo | |
09:41 | but will fail if there are modified files | |
09:41 | however it won't stop ktd startup | |
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09:42 | Joubu | so, if ktd is started and you want to pull l10n: cd misc/translator/po && git fetch origin && git reset --hard HEAD && git rebase origin/master |
09:42 | if ktd is not started: cd misc/translator/po && git reset --hard HEAD | |
09:43 | this is destructive! it will remove local changes from misc/translator/po (but you certainly do not care about them) | |
09:43 | davidnind | outside KTD - git reset --hard HEAD gives me: |
09:43 | Updating files: 100% (925/925), done. | |
09:43 | HEAD is now at 0fe3484c Translated using Weblate (Swedish) | |
09:44 | git pull gives me:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]xDDZtODqOikfwmffc>) | |
09:44 | Joubu | git checkout master |
09:44 | davidnind | git branch gives me:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]hordqUTHyJINOMyUk>) |
09:45 | right, so now under po everything is up-to-date | |
09:46 | ashimema | mine was in a detactch head a moment ago.. Joubu and I talking in PM to see if we can narrow it further between us a bit. |
09:46 | Joubu | 168 git -C $BUILD_DIR/koha/misc/translator/po checkout origin/${l10n_branch} |
09:46 | we should create the branch | |
09:48 | pastebot | "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "KTD startup - section after Koha-how-to" (33 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/31674 |
09:49 | ashimema | Chowing po files.. hehe.. that made my brain leap to 'Chowing down'.. which had pictures of koha munching on po files 😜 |
09:49 | Joubu | davidnind: that's okish |
09:50 | davidnind | so, now that I'm in KTD, how do I install a language? perl misc/translator/translate install xx-XX ? I don |
09:50 | Joubu | you should be good to run the po:update commands |
09:50 | davidnind: yes, I think so | |
09:51 | davidnind | I've not used them before - so just: gulp po:update ? |
09:51 | ashimema | aren't install and update different |
09:51 | Joubu | yes |
09:52 | wait | |
09:52 | ashimema | koha-translate --install, the packaged command should work |
09:52 | I can't remember what it now calls in the background | |
09:53 | I think ./misc/translator/translate install uses the gulp stuff internally | |
09:53 | 'create' | |
09:54 | oh.. not | |
09:54 | Joubu | `gulp po:update --lang xx-XX` will extract the new strings from Koha and merge them with the existing .po files (in misc/translator/po) This is needed when you want to see if string becomes translatable |
09:54 | ashimema | install looks like it's still as it was in the misc script |
09:55 | install uses the po's to generate the templates.. update pulls the latest po from the translation server.. that's it isn't it | |
09:55 | davidnind | I haven't been able to get the koha-translate package commands to work for a while |
09:55 | ashimema | oh |
09:55 | not good | |
09:55 | did you submit a bug? | |
09:56 | Joubu | to have the translated templates for a given languages (so pick the English templates and add the translations from the .po files) you need `perl misc/translator/translate install xx-XX` |
09:56 | ashimema | brill, |
09:56 | my understanding is back in sync.. thanks Joubu | |
09:56 | davidnind | in KTD I normally create a branch to test things, so for example: git checkout -B test |
09:57 | Joubu | or, indeed, koha-translate --install fr-FR, always forgot that one |
09:57 | but it fails now | |
09:57 | davidnind | if I go to the misc/translator/po directory (in KTD), git branch shows: |
09:57 | * (HEAD detached at origin/master) | |
09:57 | master | |
09:58 | git status shows:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]jxMaRTwKDTtPDrfEz>) | |
09:59 | Joubu | ha! |
10:00 | ha! for koha-translate, it's indeed totally broken, looking now | |
10:00 | (only for ktd I think) | |
10:00 | davidnind: did you try to checkout master? | |
10:00 | git checkout -B master origin/master | |
10:01 | you should not have those directories there | |
10:01 | do you really have misc/translator/po/de_DE? | |
10:01 | ashimema | running the gulp update adds those for me |
10:02 | davidnind | maybe that was from before - although I thought I had cleared everything - will start fresh again... |
10:04 | Joubu | ashimema: indeed, it creates Koha.mo there |
10:05 | guess it was the behaviour prior to last month changes, but we should remove them | |
10:07 | ashimema | makes sense |
10:12 | paulderscheid[m] | Hi #koha |
10:13 | Question: how do you update plugins in prod? Manually? Wanted to write an ansible playbook yesterday until I realized that install_plugins.pl can't be used :D | |
10:13 | ashimema | can it not? |
10:14 | paulderscheid[m] | I don't think so. How would the script determine which tenant to update? |
10:14 | ashimema | environment? |
10:14 | paulderscheid[m] | Or am I stupid :D |
10:14 | ? | |
10:15 | ashimema | it uses C4::Context |
10:16 | koha-shell -c /usr/share/koha/... | |
10:16 | that should do the trick I would think | |
10:16 | paulderscheid[m] | Whoa, what is that? :D |
10:16 | Wasn't aware of that. | |
10:16 | ashimema | koha-shell is a command from the debian packages |
10:16 | it'll give you a shell with all the correct environment for that koha instance | |
10:17 | koha-shell instancename | |
10:17 | that'll just give you the interactive shell | |
10:17 | -c "command" instancename will run the passed command under the right instances environment | |
10:17 | paulderscheid[m] | Cool, problem solved. Thanks ashimema++ |
10:17 | ashimema | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ckages#koha-shell |
10:17 | no worries | |
10:17 | 🙂 | |
10:18 | koha-foreach may also be helpful.. I think that may support the same but loops for you | |
10:18 | might be wrong there.. it's been a while since i used it | |
10:18 | paulderscheid[m] | I should look into the wiki more often ^^ |
10:18 | Anyway, that's great! | |
10:20 | ashimema | the main problem with the wiki is that you kinda have to know what your looking for to find it.. which isn't great |
10:21 | paulderscheid[m] | Yeah, but thankfully you are here :D |
10:26 | <ashimema> "the main problem with the wiki..." <- That was also my problem when I started out with perl ^^ | |
10:27 | Joubu | update - mo files cannot be removed, it's used by I18N TT plugin, they are not temporary files at all (thanks jajm!) |
10:28 | pastebot | "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Workflow so far for working with translations using KTD" (41 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/31678 |
10:29 | Joubu | davidnind: - update po files: STILL VERY CONFUSED HERE |
10:30 | only "gulp po:update --lang xx-XX" | |
10:30 | do not list other commands | |
10:30 | (they are deprecated) | |
10:30 | davidnind | so that installs the language as well? |
10:30 | Joubu | no |
10:31 | I think people are expected to use koha-translate | |
10:31 | I am having a look right now | |
10:31 | koha-translate --install xx-XX | |
10:31 | koha-translate --update xx-XX | |
10:31 | that's all you should need if you don't want to go deeper | |
10:31 | maybe the other things to list is the different possible errors | |
10:32 | davidnind | thanks Joubu, I'll test it out now |
10:32 | Joubu | like "if something is wrong, look at ktd startup log" |
10:32 | locate "Install Koha-how-to" | |
10:32 | "fatal: detected dubious ownership in repository at '/kohadevbox/koha/misc/translator/po'" | |
10:32 | is one of them, it (certainly) means that misc/translator/po/.git is owned by root | |
10:33 | you got another one with the "detached HEAD", it should be fixed now (I've pushed a commit to ktd) | |
10:33 | davidnind | Joubu++ |
10:35 | Joubu | thanks to you, davidnind! |
10:41 | @later tell mtj ktd's focal-arm64v8 still failing "git was not found in the system" | |
10:41 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
10:43 | davidnind | so I've done a gulp po:update --lang es-ES (just to test, looks good, no errors) |
10:43 | then koha-translate --install es-ES | |
10:43 | I get: Error: the selected language is not currently available. | |
10:43 | Joubu | yes, koha-translate is broken |
10:44 | use `perl misc/translator/translate install es-ES` | |
10:44 | for now | |
10:44 | davidnind | thanks! |
10:48 | Joubu | davidnind: use koha-translate with --dev! |
10:48 | I totally forgot that | |
10:48 | koha-translate --install es-ES --dev kohadev | |
10:48 | (as root) | |
10:48 | koha-translate --update es-ES --dev kohadev | |
10:48 | that's all you need | |
10:50 | davidnind | does the update command need to come before the install? |
10:50 | Joubu | yes, the workflow is: |
10:50 | 1. update: pick new strings | |
10:51 | 2. Edit .po manually (to translate!) | |
10:51 | 3. install: create translated templates | |
10:52 | davidnind | Thanks! (I'm getting there! 🙂) |
11:16 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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11:48 | * cait | waves |
11:57 | pastebot | "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My workflow notes for testing bugs with translation changes when using KTD (such as they are)" (65 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/31689 |
11:58 | davidnind | ^^ still some work to do, so far these have worked for me - just need to test with a real bug (tomorrow....) |
11:59 | Note, for de-DE there is an warning when you install:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]JcBOfzAMeBKghKVTs>) | |
12:08 | cait | in know :( |
12:08 | I'll fix it once I can locate the string | |
12:08 | it's on my list | |
12:08 | it mostly works ok still, but one bookings related page isn't translated | |
12:10 | magnuse | anyone want some snow? we have some left overs |
12:10 | cait | I am glad ours is just melting |
12:11 | university had to close 2 days because the paths were all blocked (too much snow on trees etc.) and coworkers can't come in beacuase of damage on the train track | |
12:12 | oleonard | magnuse: My kids would love some snow if it'll close school |
12:13 | (Norway amounts of snow here would shut down *everything*) | |
12:13 | magnuse | oleonard: i'll check how much we can spare ;-) |
12:13 | sounds like cait hs been hit pretty hard too | |
12:14 | cait | too much for us, would not be too much for Norway is my guess :) |
12:14 | schnydszch | while trying to work on koha docker for adding some patch 4 hours ago, an earthquake occurred in the office. And so now I am back on trying again. |
12:14 | oleonard | :O |
12:14 | cait | ok, earthquake beats snow |
12:15 | schnydszch | ..here in the Pacific Ring of Fire |
12:15 | tcohen[m] | Hola #koha |
12:16 | schnydszch | earthquake beats momentum |
12:18 | cait | hola tcohen |
12:21 | schnydszch | hola tcohen, magnuse, cait, oleonard, davidnind |
12:22 | magnuse | hiya schnydszch |
12:22 | yeah, i would choose snow over earthquakes | |
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13:11 | cait | kidclamp: question about bug 8838: does ist work like the CHECKIN/CHECKOUT email - so woud you send emails for already picked up items or does it pull the info when the letter is created? |
13:11 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8838 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Needs documenting , Digest option for HOLD notice |
13:11 | cait | it looks like the first... |
13:11 | becaue it looks like there is no cron? | |
13:12 | kidclamp | Yes, I think that is correct |
13:13 | cait | or maybe it recreates the letter each time a new pickup is added... |
13:13 | trying to understand the code | |
13:13 | do you thnk that's right? | |
13:13 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ent.cgi?id=157456 | |
13:13 | hm $message->append($letter); | |
13:14 | ok, it's works like CHECKOUT | |
13:15 | i love that we have that now, but I was hoping it was implemented a little differently | |
13:17 | more like the advance_notices | |
13:23 | 105 participants for our more technical afternoon session currently :) (German speaking Koha users meeting) | |
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13:26 | cait | paulderscheid[m]: around? |
13:26 | paulderscheid[m] | Yes |
13:26 | Damn the meeting | |
13:26 | cait | PM |
13:30 | ashimema | I always found the Message->apend stuff weird |
13:32 | cait | yeah, it has certain disadvantages |
13:34 | ashimema | In fact.. I'd outright get rid of C4::Message |
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13:34 | ashimema | it's sole purpose is this "interesting" append stuff |
13:34 | it's not even append.. it's insert | |
13:35 | it puts stuff in the middle of the message | |
13:36 | tcohen[m] | ashimema: what are we going to refactor this cycle? |
13:36 | holds table? letters? | |
13:37 | ashimema | I proposed pushing your holds table bug forward yes |
13:37 | cait | wahtever, put it in the road map please ;) |
13:37 | ashimema | slip printing/notices in tt/etc is another on my to hit list if I can get support there |
13:38 | Pedro is focusing hard on ILL | |
13:38 | I need to continue to polish bookings.. get all those tests fully written and pushed before expanding and polishing what's there now | |
13:38 | cait | oh right: when I showed the new features today bookings was getting the most comments |
13:38 | ashimema | and I'm also super keen (with ILL as the "excuse") to move the plugin system forward a few steps |
13:38 | cait | and questions |
13:39 | so big interest from German speaking users :) | |
13:39 | ashimema | Centralised plugin store with ratings, author authenticity etc etc |
13:39 | tcohen[m] | ashimema count me in on moving the backends into plugins |
13:40 | ashimema | bookings is certainly 'foundation level' at the moment cait |
13:40 | cait | i told them that |
13:40 | ashimema | the core all works, but it's certainly needs the rest of the house building on top of it to make it really functional |
13:40 | cait | i just thought it might make you happy to know that you hit a nerve there |
13:40 | ashimema | I just couldn't keep it all in my head.. needed those foundations in so I could break the next steps into smaller more manageable chunks |
13:40 | yeah, I'm happy | |
13:41 | so you have any particular targets of your own tcohen? | |
13:42 | I'm so keen to get moving again on bug 15279 | |
13:42 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15279 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Deprecate bespoke syntax for Slips and Notices |
13:42 | ashimema | but there's a lot of steps to get there.. the TT side needs to be first class before we can even start to consider dropping the bespoke option |
13:43 | TT is certainly not that in the slip editor yet.. it's decidedly hidden and undocumented.. | |
13:43 | cait | I'll try to send out an official rodmap mail this week - hopefully tomorrow |
13:43 | but no reason not to use your time advantage now :) | |
13:55 | tcohen[m] | I'll be out until thursday, I can join a group reviewing the roadmap items after that |
13:59 | cait | ah good to know |
13:59 | i was aiming for something around next dev meeting maybe - still got to check the calendar | |
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14:44 | tuxayo | german-speaking-community++ There were 80 people attending my demo on how to signoff patches. And there will be a follow-up patch testing session the 14th :) |
14:52 | ashimema | nice |
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15:02 | cait | tuxayo++ |
15:02 | thanks for the great presentation | |
15:06 | aw-bib[m] | +1 |
15:14 | reiveune | bye |
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16:57 | oleonard | Is it expected that one can't change the hold date of a waiting hold? |
16:58 | If an item is on the list of holds waiting past their expiration date how else could you extend the wait? | |
16:59 | caroline | I don't think you can |
16:59 | if you have the cron, it will disappear, if not, then you can leave it there until the date you want | |
17:01 | oleonard | *I* can decide to leave it on the list, but the next person to look at the list won't know I intended to keep it |
17:16 | cait | hm i thought there was a patch to make it possible to change the date |
17:16 | but i might be confusing it | |
17:16 | bye all! | |
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17:30 | caroline | there was a patch to cancel waiting holds, but I haven't seen one for extending the waiting period... that being said, I don't look at all the bugs... |
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17:38 | caroline | maybe cait was thinking of bug 8367? |
17:38 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8367 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs documenting , How long is a hold waiting for pickup at a more granular level |
17:39 | caroline | it doesn't seem to allow to modify the waiting date for a specific hold, but adds a column in the circ rules |
17:44 | Is there a way in bugzilla to change the width of the columns? The Status column is very narrow and it's impossible to know if the status is Needs Signoff or Needs Documenting just from the results list | |
17:51 | aude_c[m] | Haha! I asked the same question not so long ago |
17:52 | I think the answer was something like: "people tried in the past; but it's not easy" | |
17:53 | Would it be easier to change the wording so there aren't two statuses that start with "Needs"? | |
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17:53 | caroline | Maybe "Documentation needed"? |
17:55 | aude_c[m] | "ashimema... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]zqCjEPQBnDrNGHwUe>) |
17:55 | (from 17th November) | |
17:58 | caroline | so it's too hard to change the column width, and too hard to change the status name is what I understand |
17:59 | aude_c[m] | I didn't have a lot of time to dig further when I asked... May be worth asking again earlier in the day (in Western European time) |
18:00 | (off now, see you tomorrow!) | |
18:00 | caroline | bye! |
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21:02 | ashimema | I found when I looked that it's not just column width |
21:02 | But actually the data being sent back | |
21:04 | It's limited at the server.. the string sent back is limited down | |
21:07 | caroline | Interesting |
21:41 | ashimema | I'm sure it's doable |
21:41 | And agree it's a good idea | |
21:42 | But as I don't host or maintain bugzilla, it's something we'd need to sell to rangi and work out how to impliment | |
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22:17 | dcook | Whoa people are still around |
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