IRC log for #koha, 2023-12-04

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04:39 davidnind What is the recommended way to install languages when using KTD?
04:39 perl misc/translator/translate install fr-FR
04:39 /kohadevbox/koha/misc/transla​tor/po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po: No such file or directory
04:39 /kohadevbox/koha/misc/transla​tor/po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po: No such file or directory
04:41 I think this page needs updating with the ways that work: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ANET_staff_client
04:43 dcook davidnind: I'm pretty curious how the translations are going to work in this koha-l10n world as well
04:44 According to https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Translation_files it should just work...
04:50 davidnind that's useful, but it seems something is not working as it should for me
04:51 gulp po:update doesn't work for me, neither does misc/translator/translate or koha-translate package commands
04:51 hopefully Joubu or someone else can let us know how it should now work
04:52 dcook Yeah surely they should be online soon
06:47 ashimema In ktd the new languages repo is pulled as part of startup and the test should just work the way it used to...
06:48 I had some permissions issues the first time I tried but Joubu patched it.. however I think there might still be a few permissions caveats at play.. I couldn't get it all working in another system yet.
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07:39 reiveune hello
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08:03 matts hi!
08:04 davidnind thanks ashimema!
08:08 cait1 good morning all
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08:27 ashimema it's snowing properly on the dashboard now 🙂
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08:36 gveranis Hi , i would like to ask if someone can guide me where to lookup for this error "DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.booking_id' in 'field list' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 317"
08:37 I look at Koha/Schema/ to some files but didn't find something, seems to be ok there.
08:48 cait it sounds like your schema update didn't work
08:48 or you need to restart all the things
08:48 gveranis: which version are you on?
08:49 gveranis 23.11
08:50 I restart everything
08:53 oh I think the problem cause by plugin https://github.com/ldjamison/k[…]room-reservations which have a table bookings also
08:54 and during the upgrade the 230600061.pl doesn't run
08:54 cait why does it not run?
08:54 gveranis because the table was there but from the plugin..
08:54 cait ah, you had an error
08:54 or no, the check failed
08:54 woudl you report this please?
08:55 room reservations might be used widely enough to have that happen more often
08:55 it's a bit bad that the plugin didn't use a table with a prefix
08:55 gveranis during the upgrade I din't get an error  because https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]/230600061.pl#L13 here
08:55 checks only if table exists
08:55 cait yes, that makes sense
08:55 are you ok fixing it on your own?
08:55 good detective work
08:55 gveranis yes I will reported
08:56 I suppose I have to run the fix manually
08:58 ok , fixed, that was the problem
09:17 cait gveranis++
09:18 ashimema plugin tables are meant to be prefixed
09:18 always
09:18 ack, ok
09:18 I see it's clearly not here ☹️
09:24 cait yeah
09:24 gveranis ok I add a comment here : https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29002 to report it
09:24 huginn` 04Bug 29002: new feature, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs documenting , Add ability to book items ahead of time
09:25 cait gveranis: usually better to make a new bug and link them
09:25 we wil need one in order to provide any fix
09:25 gveranis a ok
09:25 cait once something is released we always need a new bug for a fix
09:25 but a comment is still a good start
09:25 ashimema: can we check for the plugin somehow and put a note at least?
09:26 i guess we cannot just kick out the other table as it might have data
09:26 matts The plugin should use get_qualified_table_name in RoomReservations.pm
09:26 ashimema not easily
09:26 yup
09:26 cait I think there are different forks around of this specific plugin
09:26 ashimema I'll have a little think today.. we could perhaps look at methods that exist
09:26 cait paulderscheid[m]: does your room reservations use a bookings table?
09:27 ashimema the key question though.. if we do that here, it sets a precedent for core to try and be aware of every plugin everywhere
09:30 I'll talke to kyle about the core one at least
09:31 I think the two of us need to work together here.. update the bookings plugin (the original one at least) and then also add some core changes to detect and move the table
09:31 it's not going to be a quick fix though ☹️
09:33 https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]vations/issues/57
09:39 bug 35473
09:39 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Core bookings and room reservations plugin tables clash
09:50 cait we could rename the table and output that they need to install a newer version of the plugin maybe?
09:50 and leave a note int he issues trackers about that
09:50 Koha core shoud/must win - but we don't want them to lose tdata
09:50 ashimema yes
09:50 but I want to make sure I get the rename rigfht
09:50 cait makes sense
09:51 ashimema and get the plugin, at least the original, updated to spot such a change and use it
09:51 has 23.11 been branched yet?
09:51 no, seems not
09:52 now it has 🙂
10:39 krimsonkharne[m] morning #koha
10:40 ashimema morning
10:43 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] o/
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10:49 tcohen[m] morning
10:56 cait good morning
10:57 puphaus[m] good morning togehter :)
10:57 s/togehter/together/
11:00 cait hi puphaus[m] :)
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11:30 Annelisterman[m] All translations are locked in Weblate and there are two alerts (master's staff-prog for example): https://translate.koha-communi[…]taff-prog/#alerts Is this intentional or is there actually a problem?
11:35 cait I sent Joubu a PM here yesterday, but I think he is not around Mondays
11:35 I'll send him an email
11:42 Annelisterman[m] ok, thanks!
11:42 tcohen[m] A sync command failed to fetch changes from Git
11:42 it is not intended
12:22 cait maybe someone knows: I am trying toa dd an item to a train
12:22 and I always get the barcode doesn#t exist message
12:22 why?
12:22 the barcode does exist (of course)
12:23 and I can't add anything to the waiting list either?
12:30 tcohen[m] the item needs to be attached to a waiting list first
12:30 that's what I learnt when testing the feature
12:45 Anneli Österman: the translation managet will be looking at the issue 'in a couple hours' (sic)
12:46 Annelisterman[m] tcohen: nice, thank you for the info!
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13:04 ashimema I had that issue too cait
13:04 As tcohen said, you must add it to a waiting list first.. though it sounds like your struggling to do that too
13:05 tcohen[m] add to a waiting list, and then close the list, I think
13:05 ashimema Though the screenshot in the manual is very very different to the screen I see when adding items to trains
13:06 So I have no idea what configuration stuff I've missed
13:19 magnuse cait: how do you translate train in that context?
13:22 cait i have used batch
13:23 and i can't add to waiting list either, but the message flickers so quit i don't even see what it's unhappy about
13:26 Annelisterman[m] I just proposed to other Finnish translators that we'd use the same translation to train as to batch. It's a group of items so it is a batch to me. :D
13:27 aude_c[m] I assume you already checked the Preservation settings?
13:28 Also: we know there are inconsistencies in the manual chapter; I'm half-way through fixing them
13:31 paulderscheid[m] Hi cait, I use the qualified_table_name thing, so no.
13:36 aude_c[m] cait: I managed to add items to a train that were in a waiting list...
13:36 cait I didn't have much time to investigate sadly
13:36 why do I need to add to a waiting list first?
13:36 aude_c[m] I went to Settings first. I added my not for loan status and created a new processing
13:36 cait ... and why woudl that not work for me?
13:36 and I added nfl status 4
13:36 to the config and to the settings
13:37 aude_c[m] 👍️ Did you create a processing?
13:39 cait yes
13:39 and a batch
13:39 aude_c[m] Then I don't know. It worked for me 😅
13:39 magnuse thanks cait and Annelisterman[m]
13:39 cait it's on the sandboxes
13:40 aude_c[m]: could you take a look maybe if you see what's wrong?
13:40 aude_c[m] sure
13:40 cait I am in http://staff-demo.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/
13:40 Annelisterman[m] cait: try in my sandbox? It works for me.
13:40 http://staff-translate1.sandbo[…]servation/home.pl
13:41 cait While we are on it...  I also have no luck with bug 31692
13:41 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31692 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Needs documenting , Let librarians change item level holds to record level holds when possible
13:41 cait giving a presentation on new features tomorrow (in case you wonder why I am all over the place :) )
13:42 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: errors I got" (8 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/31566
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13:43 aude_c[m] The first difference I see between cait's set-up one side and Anneli's and mine on the other, is that cait has the same NOT_LOAN value for both  PreservationNotForLoanDefaultTrainIn and PreservationNotForLoanWaitingListIn (whereas Anneli and I have different ones). Only the waiting list one is mandatory. Cait I will try clearing the other one on your set-up and see whether that's related
13:43 cait Annelisterman[m]: is it the item? I am trying with 3999900000611
13:43 and that doesn't work in Annelisterman[m] either
13:43 aude_c[m] oh
13:44 cait item exists
13:44 and is available
13:45 aude_c[m] It's the item
13:45 cait lucky me... why? :)
13:45 Annelisterman[m] cait: i can't find that item, if I search with it, I find this one: 39999000006117
13:46 aude_c[m] Dunno. It works very well with 39999000001679 :D
13:46 Annelisterman[m] cait, did you copy/paste? Maybe you are just missing the last digit. :)
13:47 cait no i think hat one exists... i hope?
13:47 aude_c[m] That's what I noticed too!
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13:47 cait no it's complete! :)
13:47 http://staff-translate1.sandbo[…]mber=146&found1=1
13:48 aude_c[m] It works with 39999000006117
13:48 Annelisterman[m] I don't see 3999900000611 in that record but there is 39999000006117
13:50 and sql request select * from items where barcode='3999900000611' doesn't bring any results
13:51 oh, but I need to go now :)
13:51 aude_c[m] thanks Anneli!
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15:08 lukeg hi
15:08 cait tcohen++
15:09 thanks Annelisterman[m]!
15:09 sorry I disappeared earlier and maybe you have been right - I need to check later (got to run now)
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20:38 M_B hello
20:40 we want to use koha for our library so we are wondering if it support arabic language
20:40 can anyone answer us??
20:41 caroline there is a transltation of Koha in Arabic
20:49 M_B thank you
20:51 the large number of LMSs made us wonder where to start
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