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| 06:50 | mtj | hi Joubu |
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| 07:03 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:18 | marcelr | o/ |
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| 07:57 | Joubu | restarting weblate... |
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| 08:12 | * cait | waves good morning |
| 08:20 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 08:33 | krimsonkharne[m] | morning all |
| 08:33 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 09:22 | Joubu | Hum, I have setup emails on Weblate. It's "spamming" me with "Activity on your account at Weblate".. |
| 09:22 | nevermind, it was because of "password reset" tests | |
| 09:22 | all good then | |
| 09:23 | caroline: did you open a bug for the missing "help" for preservation? | |
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| 10:11 | Joubu | mtj: ktd not starting up, I am getting |
| 10:11 | koha-koha-1 | Base class package "Crypt::CBC" is empty. | |
| 10:11 | koha-koha-1 | (Perhaps you need to 'use' the module which defines that package first, | |
| 10:11 | any recent changes in this area? | |
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| 10:13 | Joubu | hum, scratch that! |
| 10:14 | it's working in a new terminal, must have a 21.11 env var set somewhere... | |
| 10:15 | cait | Joubu++ |
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| 11:13 | Adarsh | Hello |
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| 11:18 | Adarsh | I just started using Koha API was able to get the Oauth token. How can I use it to query? |
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| 11:23 | oleonard | o/ |
| 11:28 | cait | Adarsh: did you see api.koha-community.org ? |
| 11:29 | KodoKorkalo[m] | Hmm, it seems that two of our library consortiums have the same id in HEA, which leads them to overwrite each others stats. How do I fix this? |
| 11:30 | cait | maybe you could try to re-register? |
| 11:31 | KodoKorkalo[m] | How do I do that? |
| 11:31 | I don't think there is a registration process involved here, is there? | |
| 11:36 | cait | when you set it up the first time, you request an ID |
| 11:37 | you could try resetting the usage stats system preferences and turning it off, starting over | |
| 11:38 | hm i might confusing it with Mana after all :( | |
| 11:39 | Joubu: do you know how a Hea ID could be reset? | |
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| 11:45 | KodoKorkalo[m] | <cait> "you could try resetting the..." <- Nope, didn't seem to change the ID ☹️ |
| 11:47 | Joubu | cait: I *think* you could try to empty UsageStatsID and UsageStatsPublicID |
| 11:47 | then another one will be generated | |
| 11:48 | KodoKorkalo[m]: what did you try exactly? | |
| 11:50 | KodoKorkalo[m] | just switched the UsageStats syspref off, then back on and ran share_usage_stats... with -f -v parameters |
| 11:51 | Joubu: Yep, just found these by checking the C4::UsageStats code, I think this might do the trick | |
| 11:52 | UsageStatsPublicID is what contains the library id shown on HEA website, so this must be it | |
| 11:55 | Nope, after emptying those I still get the same ID 😄 | |
| 11:55 | Joubu | both values? |
| 11:56 | KodoKorkalo[m] | UsageStatsPublicID seems to be null in the database, but the UI still shows the old ID |
| 11:56 | UsageStatsID is the same as it was before | |
| 11:57 | Joubu | you need to restart memcached |
| 11:57 | and so plack | |
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| 11:57 | Joubu | if you update the value directly in the DB without using Koha UI |
| 11:59 | KodoKorkalo[m] | Hmm, yeah... although maybe for updating just memcached will do |
| 12:00 | share_usage... doesn't go through plack, right? | |
| 12:01 | Joubu | if memcached is restarted, plack must be reloaded |
| 12:01 | not for the share_usage script, but the UI | |
| 12:01 | KodoKorkalo[m] | oh, ok |
| 12:02 | yeah, for UI sure, but memcached did the trick for updating the ID's | |
| 12:02 | now they are new, it's just that the UI is a bit confused about it for now | |
| 12:03 | Joubu | it should not if you restarted memcached then plack |
| 12:04 | KodoKorkalo[m] | I didn't restart plack yet, I'm not sure I want to do that in the middle of the day, because it seems to cause some problems in libraries. |
| 12:04 | It'll be restarted in the night anyway, so I think we'll be able to live with the UI showing wrong ID today | |
| 12:05 | Joubu | reload |
| 12:05 | koha-plack --reload $INSTANCE | |
| 12:05 | KodoKorkalo[m] | That'll still cause SIPoHTTP devices to drop sometimes |
| 12:06 | Joubu | maybe, but I don't think so |
| 12:06 | KodoKorkalo[m] | using HTTP(S) as SIP2 transport is not without its quirks 😄 |
| 12:06 | Joubu | who doesn't take risks a Friday afternoon? |
| 12:06 | heh, I am kidding, don't do it if you have doubts ;) | |
| 12:07 | KodoKorkalo[m] | 😄 |
| 12:07 | The real problem is fixed now, so me happy, thanks a million Joubu and cait 🙂 | |
| 12:10 | Joubu | KodoKorkalo[m]: I think you will see the correct value on the UI when the plack's worker will reach the max requests (default is 50) |
| 12:11 | a new worker will start and will populate its L1 cache from memcached | |
| 12:11 | KodoKorkalo[m] | Joubu: Yep, our is higher, but we'll just wait, it's no biggie 🙂 |
| 12:15 | cait | :) |
| 12:15 | Joubu++ | |
| 12:30 | mtj | i think the matrix bridge is broken again? |
| 12:33 | hi tcohen | |
| 12:34 | cait | it might be, I think tcohen had difficulty last night |
| 12:34 | are we ok to have the release out today? | |
| 12:37 | mtj | yep |
| 12:45 | Joubu | pushing to the main repo |
| 12:53 | all tags pushed, tarballs autogenerated with success \o/ | |
| 12:54 | https://snipboard.io/e5fYHR.jpg - on the dashboard | |
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| 13:05 | cait | can we do a quick check on bug 35460ß |
| 13:05 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35460 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to add or edit hold rules in circulation rules table |
| 13:05 | cait | Emmi says that there are columns dropped from issuingrules |
| 13:06 | Joubu | "It did reveal itself to be a bit deeper than the simple bug it appeared to be |
| 13:06 | initially." | |
| 13:06 | isn't it true for 75% of the bugs? :D | |
| 13:07 | cait | not sure where you got that from, but it makes me shiver |
| 13:08 | she is right, you can't edit circulation rules | |
| 13:08 | it's not saving, no error | |
| 13:08 | in the GUI | |
| 13:08 | in master | |
| 13:09 | hm... you can change some but not all values... this is odd | |
| 13:10 | Joubu | you are not supposed to find major bugs 2 min after the release is out |
| 13:10 | cait | sorry? |
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| 13:11 | cait | Emmi is patching it, but yeah, i guess too late... and it's onyl some hold variables right? noone is gong to update to .0 |
| 13:11 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 13:12 | Joubu | it's next RM's responsability anyway now |
| 13:12 | :D | |
| 13:12 | cait | :P |
| 13:12 | my lessons don't start before Monday I think | |
| 13:13 | magnuse | Joubu++ |
| 13:13 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 13:19 | Joubu | If you think Weblate is awesome, and you want to thanks the maintainer, please consider (you or your boss) donate to the project - https://weblate.org/donate/ |
| 13:20 | if we, as a community, can show them we are happy and support them, they will be willing to give back and provide us with enhancements we would like in the future | |
| 13:20 | https://github.com/WeblateOrg/[…]omment-1836097139 - one more example | |
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| 13:30 | cait | it's good thinking |
| 13:33 | confetti!!!! | |
| 13:33 | confetti! | |
| 13:33 | we got a release! | |
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| 13:38 | magnuse | @confetti |
| 13:38 | huginn` | magnuse: I suck |
| 13:38 | magnuse | ````````` |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Is wahanui in charge of confetti? |
| 13:40 | magnuse | i think someone had something to do with confetti at some point, at least? |
| 13:40 | Joubu | new features are no longer on top of the release notes, weird |
| 13:40 | they get lost | |
| 13:40 | at the top* | |
| 13:41 | magnuse | oleonard: looks like it was wahanui |
| 13:42 | Joubu | ashimema: wow did ptfs-e provide all those new nodes!? |
| 13:44 | magnuse | magic |
| 13:44 | Joubu | tcohen: we have a problem with es - jobs are failing with "bootstrap checks failed" |
| 13:51 | Adjusted config for https://jenkins.koha-community[…]b/Koha_21.11_U22/ - it was wget "master" file... | |
| 13:51 | Readonly for everybody! :D | |
| 14:03 | caroline | Joubu: re preservation help, I haven't opened a bug yet |
| 14:03 | I was a bit swamped by client work, but I wanted to do a little bit of manual today, if I can | |
| 14:12 | Joubu | do you want to do it or do you want me to do it? |
| 14:12 | caroline | I wanted to try to do it, so I can learn how it works |
| 14:12 | is that ok with you? | |
| 14:14 | Joubu | yes :) |
| 14:19 | magnuse | caroline++ |
| 14:21 | caroline | congratulations tcohen++ on the release!! |
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| 14:31 | cait | tcohen++ community++ |
| 14:31 | magnuse | tcohen++ community++ cait++ |
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| 14:46 | caroline | Joubu, I was told once that if I modify a .pm, there needs to be tests, is it the case also for Manual.pm? |
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| 14:51 | val[m] | test? |
| 14:51 | pinkieval | test2? |
| 14:51 | val[m] | ashimema: seems to work |
| 14:54 | ah, right | |
| 14:54 | your IRC puppet is not connected | |
| 14:54 | tell !reconnect to the appservice bot | |
| 14:57 | just !connect then | |
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| 15:00 | ashimema | !connect |
| 15:00 | that gives me No clients connected to this network, not reconnecting | |
| 15:00 | that gives me command not recognised | |
| 15:00 | oop | |
| 15:01 | val[m] | well, you're out of luck then |
| 15:02 | oh you just connected | |
| 15:04 | cait | ashimema: we can see you :) |
| 15:04 | ashimema | can you |
| 15:04 | cait | tcohen: are you around? |
| 15:04 | ashimema | aha |
| 15:04 | now I can | |
| 15:04 | I'm still confused | |
| 15:05 | I see to see a few different oftc-irc users | |
| 15:06 | thanks val | |
| 15:06 | ah.. looks like tcohen still isn't there on both sides ☹️ | |
| 15:08 | correct | |
| 15:08 | https://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2023-12-01 | |
| 15:08 | * ashimema | is using the logs to spot the irc side |
| 15:08 | cait | test? :) |
| 15:09 | val[m] | tcohen: try `!reconnect` to the bot too |
| 15:10 | tcohen[m]: yeah... the bridge tends to do that | |
| 15:11 | ashimema | looking at the logs I've been chatting all day and not got replies |
| 15:11 | and it's becuase of this | |
| 15:12 | in 'other rooms' do you have an https://matrix.to/#/!mCRcRXuEktwAHTnnHp:matrix.org?via=matrix.org | |
| 15:13 | try talkig to that user instead.. that one did get me reconnected | |
| 15:13 | what confuses me is I have no idea how these things plumb together | |
| 15:14 | but we need this stuff to 'just work' without having to mess about with people having to play with reconnect commands and stuff | |
| 15:15 | I bet this is also why Joubu has been ignoring my PM's | |
| 15:15 | grr.. | |
| 15:15 | val[m] | I don't expect the matrix bridge will ever "just work" |
| 15:15 | it's been like this for years | |
| 15:15 | various attempts to fix it never made it reliable | |
| 15:15 | caroline | if I understand the structure of the Manual.pm file, I don't think I can make a link for this page "preservation/trains/1/items/add", correct? (because of the 1 in the middle) |
| 15:16 | unless I can put a *? | |
| 15:16 | val[m] | ashimema: oh yeah, PMs are particularly nasty because you can't look at logs from the other side |
| 15:16 | ashimema | ok... well thanks anyway val .. that's at least got a couple of us going again.. I think |
| 15:18 | sorry caroline | |
| 15:18 | what do you mean? | |
| 15:18 | * ashimema | hasn't tried anything in that feature yet |
| 15:18 | caroline | the 1 is my train number |
| 15:19 | ashimema | yes |
| 15:19 | but what do you mean by the link | |
| 15:19 | how do I try to the page you're trying to get a link to work from | |
| 15:20 | caroline | you need to enable preservation, then go to Preservation > Settings and create a processing, then go to Trains, create a train and then add items to that train |
| 15:21 | so I created a train, (number 1), and when I go to add items to that train, the url is preservation/trains/1/items/add with the train number (1) in the middle | |
| 15:22 | the manual section is https://koha-community.org/man[…]on.html#add-items | |
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| 15:23 | Squidy | Hi.. Is there a way to display the marc field 090$a on OPAC? |
| 15:23 | caroline | can I make a link from preservation/trains/*/items/add ? |
| 15:24 | Squidy, I think you'd have to modify the XSLT file | |
| 15:25 | cait | @marc 090 |
| 15:25 | huginn` | cait: unknown tag 090 |
| 15:25 | cait | ah right, that's a custom field |
| 15:25 | definitely need to change the XSLT files then | |
| 15:25 | caroline | yes, local call number |
| 15:25 | ashimema | right |
| 15:25 | ok | |
| 15:25 | Squidy | I need to show 090$a near of itemcallnumber |
| 15:25 | ashimema | took a lot of messing about adding settings and things and getting blocked at every turn |
| 15:26 | but I think I've got to the page you mean | |
| 15:26 | though my 'Add ite to train' page looks very different to the manual | |
| 15:26 | caroline | mine is buggy too :/ |
| 15:26 | ashimema | it's jsut a barcode entry box |
| 15:29 | caroline | I *think* those are "custom" fields they created when creating the processing? or train? I can't rememebr |
| 15:29 | But at one point, you,re asked to create attributes | |
| 15:29 | I those are the attriobutes | |
| 15:29 | after you enter the barcode, there is a form with itemnumber, and stuff | |
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| 15:30 | caroline | but the point is that the train number is in the middle of the url |
| 15:32 | ashimema | hmm |
| 15:32 | caroline | whereas the edit train page is preservation/trains/edit/1 with the 1 at the end, so I can link from preservation/trains/edit/ |
| 15:33 | ashimema | have you got other links there already working? |
| 15:33 | got a patch your working on? | |
| 15:33 | like https://koha-community.org/man[…]ation.html#trains | |
| 15:33 | when your on /cgi-bin/koha/preservation/trains | |
| 15:34 | caroline | I'm working on it, but it's not working super well... |
| 15:34 | I figured I'd do all the links and then find the problem after (it might have to do with my local installation?) | |
| 15:35 | but I can add the file to the bug and you can look at it? | |
| 15:35 | ashimema | this is another vue module right |
| 15:35 | caroline | yes... |
| 15:35 | ashimema | so it may need some special handling like the erm one does |
| 15:35 | caroline | I tried to copy the erm links, but there isn't one that has something in the middle, that I could see |
| 15:37 | ashimema | look around line 310 |
| 15:37 | Joubu strips out the digits in the url there | |
| 15:37 | but only for erm | |
| 15:37 | caroline | ah! |
| 15:37 | ashimema | you should be able to do the same for preservation |
| 15:37 | caroline | I attached what I have so far in bug 35463 |
| 15:38 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, NEW , Link preservation module help to the manual |
| 15:38 | caroline | I hadn't gone all the way to the bttom |
| 15:39 | might explain why my links didn't work | |
| 15:39 | ashimema | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33346 |
| 15:39 | huginn` | 04Bug 33346: minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Help link to Koha manual in ERM module |
| 15:39 | ashimema | take a look at that |
| 15:39 | it might help | |
| 15:40 | caroline | thanks ashimema! |
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| 15:44 | ashimema | right.. |
| 15:44 | cait still here? | |
| 15:44 | I'll ask the question I asked a few hours ago and she didn't see if she it | |
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| 15:45 | ashimema | anyone else getting complaints about bug 34469 |
| 15:45 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34469 blocker, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to oldstable , Modifying an order line of a standing order will delete linked invoice ID |
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| 15:50 | caroline | ashimema, I see your question ;) but I don't have an answer |
| 15:50 | (just so you don't think you're invisible again) | |
| 15:50 | ashimema | ok |
| 15:51 | caroline | our clients are on 23.05.06 I think and I haven't heard of this |
| 15:52 | ah no sorry, they're on 22.05.06 so they don,t have it yet | |
| 15:52 | we're updating a part of them on 23.05.05 in the next few weeks, and the rest in january | |
| 15:53 | ashimema | we have customers complaining now that they can't edit these orders |
| 15:53 | but of course. that's the point of the patch | |
| 15:53 | I'm wondering what i'm missing and how one does ever edit it as needed now | |
| 15:55 | caroline | I wonder if that is what happened to one client, they had orders with status "complete" and no receivedate. It was very weird |
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| 16:02 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:06 | Squidy | Is there any manual on how to customize XSLT? My changes are not taking effect. |
| 16:08 | aude_c[m] | Late to the 23.11 release party but I hope there's still time for more virtual confetti! 🎊 |
| 16:09 | tcohen++ | |
| 16:09 | community++ | |
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| 16:18 | ashimema | what xmas dress shall we give dashboard |
| 16:18 | xmas2018, xmas2016 or christmas | |
| 16:18 | * ashimema | uploaded an image: (564KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]kLTXVrT/image.png > |
| 16:19 | ashimema | 16 ^ |
| 16:19 | * ashimema | uploaded an image: (703KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]DwNHwdt/image.png > |
| 16:19 | ashimema | 18^ |
| 16:19 | * ashimema | uploaded an image: (349KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]enPROoH/image.png > |
| 16:19 | ashimema | christmas^ |
| 16:20 | aude_c[m] | My vote goes to 16! |
| 16:20 | caroline | I like the blue one, it feels more universal and less christmassy |
| 16:21 | oleonard | I agree with caroline |
| 16:23 | ashimema | done |
| 16:23 | might add some snowflakes for good measure | |
| 16:23 | caroline | omg lol |
| 16:23 | ashimema | https://codepen.io/mblenk/pen/rNKbVab |
| 16:23 | why not 😜 | |
| 16:23 | caroline | we were just talking about snowflakes in one of the opacs and my reaction was "eyes bleeding" |
| 16:24 | It just feels "geocities" to me lol | |
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| 16:30 | cait | ashimema: why do they complain exactly? |
| 16:30 | they might not have been aware of the udnerlying bug | |
| 16:31 | if you edited a received entry - which this is about - then it woud actively kill data | |
| 16:31 | and you had no control over it | |
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| 16:31 | cait | if it was received, it remained received, but every edit deleted the invoice id |
| 16:31 | we could make them editable, but I think the proper way is: undo the receive and fix it in the invoice | |
| 16:32 | and if you want to undo the patch, you need to fix the underlying issue of it throwing out any data that is not present in the order form | |
| 16:33 | I would highly recommend not undoing the change for your customers unless you fix this | |
| 16:35 | ashimema++ thanks for the christmas dress :) | |
| 16:36 | ashimema | so |
| 16:36 | cait | ashimema: i'd be interested in waht they want to edit, but the bug was real bad. These received orders with no links to invoices casued a heap of trouble |
| 16:36 | ashimema | it's to do with serial subscription recieves |
| 16:36 | they really want to edit the monetary fields | |
| 16:36 | and have been for years | |
| 16:36 | cait | why? |
| 16:36 | ashimema | so now that you've blocked that they're angry |
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| 16:37 | cait | but have you checked if what they did before didn't totally break their invoices? |
| 16:37 | ashimema | well.. they've never noticed breakage in the past |
| 16:37 | they were happy with their workflow | |
| 16:37 | cait | becuase you never look at old invoices |
| 16:37 | which values do they need to edit and why? | |
| 16:38 | if it is a standing order, they can still edit the open line | |
| 16:38 | I am wondering why they need to change the already received ones | |
| 16:38 | to understand better | |
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| 16:39 | ashimema | they used to receive the standing order |
| 16:39 | this created the new orderline | |
| 16:39 | cait | yep |
| 16:39 | ashimema | with rrp, budegeted cost, gst all as zero |
| 16:39 | cait | so when they receveid it, they put the price, right? |
| 16:39 | ashimema | they would then go into the line and fix them |
| 16:39 | cait | but.. why? |
| 16:39 | ashimema | now.. they go into the line and just get your blocking message |
| 16:39 | cait | they put in the actual cost |
| 16:39 | that shoudl be all they need | |
| 16:40 | ashimema | i have no idea |
| 16:40 | but it angers them that they can't fix the data anymore | |
| 16:40 | especially taz | |
| 16:40 | tax | |
| 16:40 | cait | I am not saying we could not add something to edit |
| 16:40 | but I am saying it destroys data if you just undo the change | |
| 16:40 | it needs much more work then | |
| 16:41 | ashimema | I've got a call with Lucy to understand more on Monday |
| 16:41 | I don't know the workflows well enough | |
| 16:41 | cait | I believe it has to do with how we update the order line entry - maybe all things that are not part of the order form get lost |
| 16:41 | and it will be out of my league | |
| 16:41 | and we might want to pref it or so | |
| 16:41 | if something is received there is certainly libraries that say it shoudl not be able to change it | |
| 16:41 | because it's bad for auditing | |
| 16:42 | ashimema | I think the issue is that budgetted is always zero for these |
| 16:42 | and tax | |
| 16:42 | you can't set them at receive time | |
| 16:42 | anywho | |
| 16:42 | brain is melted for the day | |
| 16:44 | cait | hm |
| 16:44 | they are already in spent at this point | |
| 16:44 | it might have to do something with reporting | |
| 16:44 | we had some older bugs about one should not be able to edit received lines | |
| 16:45 | that's why I say maybe we need to pref it if you want to open it up again, but it will need work in the background because the bug I tried to fix will stil be there | |
| 16:45 | bug 6819 | |
| 16:45 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6819 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Don't offer cancel order links for received order lines on basket summary |
| 16:46 | cait | 6729 |
| 16:46 | caroline | cait, would that bug (the one that deletes data) make old received orders pop back in the "late orders" table? I'm having this problem with one client and I keep thinking "they must have done something", old orders just don't appear back again years later |
| 16:47 | they say they didn't do anything, but I don't believe them (sorry not sorry) | |
| 16:47 | cait | it#s hard to track mistakes there :( |
| 16:48 | we have one where the funds just don't add up to the expected amounts and I haven't been able to find the cause | |
| 16:48 | what status have those lines? | |
| 16:48 | the status remained as complete I think | |
| 16:48 | on those | |
| 16:48 | caroline | the status was "complete" |
| 16:48 | cait | it could be |
| 16:48 | i mean you could maybe try with the test plan on the bug on an unpatched Koha Version | |
| 16:49 | caroline | but there was no receive date, I can't remember if there was an invoice id on all of them |
| 16:49 | cait | maybe the receive date also gets killed |
| 16:49 | my impression was that it effected possibly more fields, but I focused on the invoice_id link as this was very prominent | |
| 16:49 | caroline | I updated the receive date to the date in the timestamp (it was a date in 2020 I think) |
| 16:50 | it made them go away from the late orders table, but I wasn't very satisfied of this as I couldn't understand the cause | |
| 16:51 | cait | maybe if you know the db you could check if you have empty invoice_ids for orders in "complete" |
| 16:52 | ashimema | hmm |
| 16:52 | interesting | |
| 16:53 | not sure why my snowflakes are off the bottom of the screen | |
| 16:53 | cait | lol |
| 16:53 | caroline | I'm looking at one example that I copied in the ticket and it doesn't have an invoiceid, but it is "complete" |
| 16:53 | cait | and i thought you had insight on the acq issue :) |
| 16:53 | caroline | I had noticed, but since I didn't know which invoice it should go to, I didn,t touch it |
| 16:55 | cait | ashimema: sorry if I talked a bit much. I am happy if you want to change things back, I just don't trust the for oder form for received orders currently. So recommend to do some careful checking there |
| 16:55 | ashimema | no worries |
| 16:55 | my brain is dead | |
| 16:55 | cait | heh |
| 16:55 | ashimema | I'll deal with this next week |
| 16:55 | cait | mine too |
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| 16:55 | cait | yep |
| 16:56 | and I will need to learn RM next week - and we have the German users meeting - and a big German university library I happen to know has their go live :) | |
| 16:56 | so... an empty week | |
| 16:56 | caroline | lol good luck on that very calm week |
| 16:57 | cait | thank you! :) |
| 16:57 | have a nice weekend all! | |
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| 17:37 | oleonard | I wonder if there's going to be a Catalyst Academy soon |
| 17:38 | caroline | you have a to-do list for them? |
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| 17:38 | oleonard | Just noticing lots of bugs with the Academy keyword and wondering if I should stop fixing them :) |
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| 18:21 | ashimema | I tend to just use it to generically mark any bug I think should be easyish to work on. I don't expect people to leave them waiting |
| 18:22 | I'll keep adding to the list, haha | |
| 18:22 | I use them for my daughter or colleagues here looking to try their hand | |
| 18:22 | Feel free to grab them though.. I like when you do as you usually write great test plans and people use the keyword to search to bugs to test too | |
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| 18:33 | oleonard | 👍🏻 |
| 18:33 | ashimema: davidnind keeps me on my toes by noting all the steps I missed in writing a test plan! | |
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| 18:45 | ashimema | Haha, he's amazing |
| 18:45 | He does the same for me.. but I deserve it.. my test plans are often terrible. Not a great example | |
| 18:47 | We're really making a concerted effort at the moment to encourage customers to be better community partners.. not just resting 'their stuff', but generally looking at bugzilla and testing all the things 😃.. it's me mission for next year | |
| 18:49 | caroline | one of my goals with kohacon will be to have our clients understand how the community works, etc. We "shield" them a bit from that since there is a language barrier for a lot of them, but it will be good for them to understand how it works in the background |
| 18:50 | for the Manual.pm thing, I don't speak perl, so I'm not sure which part of this I'm supposed to change | |
| 18:50 | if ( $file =~ m|^erm| ) { | |
| 18:50 | $file =~ s|\d*$||; | |
| 18:50 | } | |
| 18:51 | I tried [^erm|^preservation] | |
| 18:51 | but I think that says "not erm or preservation"? | |
| 18:51 | Do I make another parenthesis section? | |
| 18:52 | like this? | |
| 18:52 | if ( $file =~ m|^erm| ) ($file =~ m|^preservation|) { | |
| 18:52 | $file =~ s|\d*$||; | |
| 18:52 | } | |
| 18:56 | ok I asked my good friend chat and its answer seems ok | |
| 18:56 | if ($file =~ m|^erm| || $file =~ m|^preservation|) { | |
| 18:56 | $file =~ s|\d*$||; | |
| 18:56 | } | |
| 19:04 | cait | looks good |
| 19:04 | what ar you trying to do? | |
| 19:04 | or where does this go? | |
| 19:04 | caroline | it's in the Manual.pm file |
| 19:04 | cait | the match is begins with erm |
| 19:04 | or begins with preservation | |
| 19:05 | caroline | it's a bit that we apparently have to add for the vue modules |
| 19:05 | cait | ah ok |
| 19:05 | caroline | otherwise the help links don't work |
| 19:05 | cait | i tihnk it replaces... numbers with nothing |
| 19:05 | could that be? | |
| 19:05 | caroline | that would make sense |
| 19:05 | cait | numbers at the end |
| 19:06 | caroline | only at the end? |
| 19:06 | oh yeah you're right, there's the $ | |
| 19:07 | I wonder if I could tweak it to make it search for the numbers in the middle too... I'll ask chat and see what it says | |
| 19:09 | cait | is the end not enough for this case? |
| 19:09 | caroline | it's because I have this preservation/trains/1/items/add |
| 19:09 | where the 1 is my train number | |
| 19:09 | cait | hm ok |
| 19:09 | i tihnk try removing the $? | |
| 19:10 | for that case it suld work, not sure if there can be multiple numbers too | |
| 19:10 | caroline | chat says this |
| 19:10 | if ($file =~ m|^erm| || $file =~ m|^preservation|) { | |
| 19:10 | $file =~ s|/\d+||g; # Remove digits in the middle and trailing digits | |
| 19:10 | } | |
| 19:10 | the + should take car if you have more than 9 trains | |
| 19:11 | cait | yes |
| 19:11 | one or more | |
| 19:11 | i meant if htere is a second group in the link | |
| 19:11 | caroline | theres the g |
| 19:11 | cait | yes, modifiers |
| 19:12 | i always forget which is which :) | |
| 19:12 | you are right | |
| 19:12 | caroline | g is for global so it will look everywhere |
| 19:12 | cait | caroline++ |
| 19:13 | caroline | do we want that though? what if its like 111.111.111.111/koha/blabla/preservation/trains/1/items/add |
| 19:13 | cait | i believe file probably doesn't start with the ip |
| 19:13 | or base url | |
| 19:14 | caroline | ok |
| 19:14 | cait | or i hope so :) |
| 19:17 | caroline | well, it works for preservation! Hopefully I didn't break something else |
| 19:20 | I was told once that if I change something in a .pm file, I have to write a test, is it also true for Manual.pm? | |
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| 19:29 | cait | if you changed a method, likely |
| 19:29 | if you search for the method with git grep methodname *.t - maybe there is already a file testing it | |
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| 19:48 | tcohen[m] | wow, am I online for non-Matrix users now? |
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| 20:06 | cait | yes |
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| 21:54 | caroline | bug 35463 ready to test! phew! I didn't think it'd take ma all day |
| 21:54 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, Needs Signoff , Link preservation module help to the manual |
| 22:00 | caroline | have a good weekend everyone |
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| 22:37 | tuxayo | tcohen++ community++ |
| 22:39 | > Koha version: 23.11.00.000 | |
| 22:39 | 🎉 | |
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