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| 07:04 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:23 | krimsonkharne[m] | good morning #koha |
| 07:31 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 07:33 | Joubu | PedroAmorim[m]: I freed up some disk space on Docker_77 |
| 07:33 | Docker_7 even | |
| 07:45 | magnuse | i'm trying to build custom packages with pbuilder, debian/build-git-snapshot and https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way but there are some problems. is there a new and better way to build packages? |
| 07:51 | ashimema | we're using the docker builder magnuse |
| 07:52 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]/koha-dpkg-docker | |
| 07:53 | or more accurately for us.. a very minorly forked version: https://gitlab.com/ptfs-europe/koha-dpkg-docker | |
| 07:53 | magnuse | sounds promising :-) |
| 07:53 | ashimema++ | |
| 07:54 | ashimema | as a little extra thought.. if you're building packages regularly I'd encourage a similar approach to ours now.. we don't a Jenkins node to community with the caveat that it'll also build our own custom branch and then build a package from it when we push |
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| 07:55 | ashimema | it's a win win.. we donate compute power to the Jenkins cluster.. but get to use the Jenkins infrastructure to run our builds (which are pretty rare and just a few commits ahead of community stable when we deem fit) |
| 07:55 | magnuse | cool, i'll have a look into it |
| 07:57 | ashimema | no pressure of course.. we've just found it to work really well here and I think it's helped to alleviate a little bit of the bottleneck in community too 🙂 |
| 07:57 | * ashimema | likes to find any excuse he can to help community |
| 07:58 | ashimema | right.. I best go do breakfast for the hoards.. hehe |
| 07:58 | magnuse | +1 |
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| 08:11 | magnuse | i took the liberty of marking https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way as obsolete. i'll reverse it if anyone complains |
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| 08:18 | Joubu | I would not add the obsolete tag, it remove the patch from the default search results |
| 08:18 | I would not add the obsolete tag, it removes the page from the default search results* | |
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| 08:23 | ashimema | we actually basically use that method internally in the docker image.. it's just that the docker image hide most of the complexities away 😜 |
| 08:24 | but yeah.. probably worthwhile highlighting the docker images are easier now and more well maintained by community | |
| 08:24 | * cait | waves |
| 08:27 | ashimema | morning cait |
| 08:27 | cait | morning |
| 08:28 | ashimema | Joubu |
| 08:28 | I've just been looking a the roadmap for next cycle | |
| 08:29 | do you think Cities in Vue should be dependant on Make Vue code abailable from other area's ? | |
| 08:29 | I feel like building out that foundation first is the right order of things? | |
| 08:29 | but do correct me if I'm wrong | |
| 08:29 | Joubu | no, two different things |
| 08:29 | ashimema | glad I asked 🙂 |
| 08:29 | crap, school run | |
| 08:29 | brb | |
| 08:30 | cait | yes, please pretty up the road map with info |
| 08:30 | Joubu | the idea of cities/vue is to provide a step-by-step guide (git log) to implement a new module in Vue (or rewrite one), to understand the different bricks and how they are nested together |
| 08:31 | make Vue code reusable - we have fetch.js for instance that is a nice piece of code to access the Koha REST API. We could make it reusable from non-Vue code. | |
| 09:05 | ashimema | Oh, I see.. so I misunderstood that second bug.. didn't realise it was 'from non Vue code' that's the target.. cool |
| 09:16 | PedroAmorim[m] | <Joubu> "Pedro Amorim: I freed up some..." <- thanks! |
| 09:16 | o/ | |
| 09:35 | Joubu: Can you please do the same for Docker_4? | |
| 09:35 | https://jenkins.koha-community[…]1_D10/268/console | |
| 09:35 | Joubu | I don't have access to docker_4 |
| 09:36 | ho, maybe I do! | |
| 09:36 | /dev/sda2 19G 8.6G 9.1G 49% / | |
| 09:40 | @later tell tcohen[m] https://paste.koha-community.org/30909 - should not this be removed when the run is finished? | |
| 09:40 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:42 | Joubu | /dev/sdb 40G 38G 0 100% /srv |
| 09:42 | heh, that one | |
| 09:42 | @later tell tcohen[m] run rootdocker4:~# rm -rf /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_*-cleanup_* |
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| 09:42 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:43 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen[m] /dev/sdb 40G 6.5G 31G 18% /srv |
| 09:43 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:43 | Joubu | PedroAmorim[m]: done |
| 09:43 | PedroAmorim[m] | Joubu++ |
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| 10:16 | Adarsh | Hello! I need one help. When I am uploading anything at koha intra using uploads tool, it's progress is getting stucked at 0%. What should I do? |
| 10:21 | cait1 | it might just take time |
| 10:21 | the progess bar in older versions especially is not very reliable | |
| 10:21 | which kind of upload? (MARC records, images...?) | |
| 10:30 | Adarsh | MARC record or simply a pdf file upload of 15 mb. Smaller images are getting uploaded fast but not the pdf I'm trying to upload. |
| 10:33 | cait1 | you could check the server logs for an error, but it might just take more time |
| 10:48 | Joubu | cait1: re bug 35392 - do you think it should be part of 23.11? It's string changes and we are in string freeze, but it is actually a string fix :) |
| 10:48 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35392 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matt.blenkinsop, Needs Signoff , HTML in translatable string |
| 10:49 | * ashimema | was just reading that bug and considering the same question |
| 10:49 | ashimema | it's on the cusp |
| 10:55 | Adarsh | File upload progress is not getting ahead a single percent even after waiting for 20 mins. There is no relevant info in server logs. |
| 10:56 | Joubu | which version of Koha are you using? |
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| 11:10 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen[m] ok so the removal of the workspaces failed on the node because of the po permissions issue we fixed last week. Some nodes are full have plenty of workspaces that need to be removed in /srv/jenkins/workspace |
| 11:10 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:10 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen[m] some are older but should be removed as well (certainly similar problems) |
| 11:10 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:11 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen[m] it needs to be done on docker_2, docker_3 and docker_5 (we don't have access to docker_5 however...) |
| 11:11 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:12 | Joubu | @later tell mtj could you remove workspaces on docker_3 (there was a perm issue in ktd, re .po files): in /srv/jenkins/workspace you can remove all what is not "Koha_Source" and that is not currently running |
| 11:12 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:14 | Joubu | ashimema: same on docker_8 please ^^ |
| 11:15 | ashimema | on it |
| 11:15 | Adarsh | Joubu: Koha version=23.05.04.000 |
| 11:17 | ashimema | just a an rm of Koha_Source right.. then it'll pull all the right stuff at next build? |
| 11:17 | Joubu | no! |
| 11:17 | * ashimema | isn't close to how Jenkins actually works |
| 11:17 | Joubu | keep Koha_Source |
| 11:18 | ashimema | what's needed then? |
| 11:18 | doh.. | |
| 11:18 | I should read in full | |
| 11:18 | we only have Koha_Source under /srv/jenkins/workspace | |
| 11:18 | Joubu | ho ok, nothing to do then! |
| 11:19 | did you remove it? | |
| 11:20 | ashimema | nope.. it was already clean |
| 11:20 | I leave this mostly to our infrastructure team here 😜 | |
| 11:24 | Adarsh | Joubu: any comments on file upload? |
| 11:25 | cait1 | Joubu: usually I'd say no - I just hope not too many people broke that string in translation |
| 11:25 | which reminds me... I still have to finish translation | |
| 11:27 | Joubu | Adarsh: please look at the Koha log files (tail -f /var/log/*/*.log) and the console of the browser |
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| 11:41 | Annelisterman[m] | I've been translating into Finnish and Weblate have some hilarious suggestions: Invoice -> miehen ääni (man's voice); Cancel order -> tanssiorkesteri (dance orchestra); South Africa -> suuharkko (mouth ingot or something like that); Netherlands -> kahdeksan kättä (eight hands) |
| 11:44 | s/have/has/ | |
| 11:53 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:14 | ashimema | is bug 14092 really an enhancements and not a bugfix? |
| 12:14 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs documenting , Order search doesn't allow to search for 'all statuses' |
| 12:15 | ashimema | I've reworded the title.. makes it sound more enhancement than bugfix now |
| 12:21 | Joubu | Annelisterman[m]: where are you seeing them? In the "Automatic suggestions" tab? |
| 12:22 | Annelisterman[m] | Joubu: No, like this |
| 12:22 | * Annelisterman[m] | uploaded an image: (4KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]RjUkDWE/image.png > |
| 12:23 | Joubu | do you mean "kontrabasso" has been automatically filled? |
| 12:24 | Annelisterman[m] | yes |
| 12:24 | Joubu | can you share the url please? |
| 12:24 | Annelisterman[m] | I already translated that but I'll give you the next one |
| 12:24 | Joubu | I guess it's coming from there: |
| 12:24 | 1368 msgid "contrabass" | |
| 12:24 | 1369 msgstr "kontrabasso" | |
| 12:25 | "contrabass" is closed to "contract" | |
| 12:26 | but when translating into French, the strings are empty when not translated yet | |
| 12:26 | Annelisterman[m] | Some of them are empty, some have those kind of suggestions |
| 12:26 | Joubu | does the UI tell you it's a suggestion? |
| 12:27 | Annelisterman[m] | usually it has the selection in "requires modification" (or whatever it is actually in English) |
| 12:28 | but otherwise no | |
| 12:28 | Joubu | there are services we can enable for automatic suggestions, like deepl, google translate, etc. They will certainly provide more accurate suggestions :) |
| 12:30 | Annelisterman[m] | https://translate.koha-communi[…]=2bc1b245cb42afc1 that one has also "tanssiorkesteri" |
| 12:30 | Joubu | this is in the .po files: |
| 12:30 | 5967 msgid "Advanced search" | |
| 12:30 | 5968 msgstr "tanssiorkesteri" | |
| 12:31 | so it's not coming from a weblate's suggestion | |
| 12:32 | Annelisterman[m] | ok. I'm pretty sure I haven't translated those like that so they must come from somewhere else. :D |
| 12:32 | (or other Finnish translators) | |
| 12:38 | Generally Weblate's automatic suggestions (the tab) are quite good. | |
| 12:43 | tcohen[m] | We've had some of those weird ones on es-ES, not too many. We are done with the translation \o/ |
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| 12:47 | Joubu | tcohen: |
| 12:47 | +msgid "Advanced search" | |
| 12:47 | +msgstr "orquesta de danza" | |
| 12:47 | yes, something weird happened at some point... | |
| 12:48 | Annelisterman[m] | same as in Finnish? Dance orchestra. :D |
| 12:48 | cait1 | lol |
| 12:48 | we should just change the English :) | |
| 12:48 | cait | I haven't enountered that one yet, but still behind with my translation schedule |
| 12:49 | Joubu | +msgid "Advanced search" |
| 12:49 | +msgstr "Tanzorchester" | |
| 12:49 | that's so weird! | |
| 12:50 | +msgid "Netherlands" | |
| 12:50 | +msgstr "achthändig" | |
| 12:50 | ||
| 12:50 | Annelisterman[m] | Someone really wants us to dance |
| 12:50 | Joubu | +msgid "Netherlands" |
| 12:50 | +msgstr "ocho manos" | |
| 12:51 | cait | ashimema++ for cleaning up release notes |
| 12:56 | tcohen[m] | Joubu: is "Advanced search" wrongly translated? |
| 12:56 | do we have a lbame tool? | |
| 12:56 | Joubu | There is definitely something weird in the first "update from Koha" commit in koha-l10n. Some strings have been auto translated (but marked fuzzy) with another string from the same file (messages). |
| 12:57 | no idea how it happened but apparently there are not much occurrences so I will just ignore that and pretend like nothing happened | |
| 12:57 | tcohen[m]: what I am saying, it has been "auto generated" at the beginning of koha-l10n | |
| 12:57 | it was not in pootle | |
| 12:58 | this is a bit crazy and scary to be honest... :D | |
| 12:58 | tcohen[m] | We will survive |
| 12:58 | Joubu | if there are not many more, yes |
| 12:59 | tcohen[m] | Joubu: question: https://translate.koha-communi[…]ority%2C-position |
| 12:59 | how do I filter by language there | |
| 13:00 | I think I got it, I need to jump to the language and THEN search | |
| 13:01 | Joubu | tcohen[m]: in the custom search field, add language:="es-ES" |
| 13:02 | source:="Advanced search" language:="es-ES" | |
| 13:02 | and, read that: https://docs.weblate.org/en/la[…]/user/search.html | |
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| 13:09 | thd | ashimema: Are you present? |
| 13:10 | Joubu | aude_c[m]: to add a new page to the manual I think the only thing you need is to add it to index.rst |
| 13:18 | cait | tcohen I also chose the language first, then search, seems to work ok |
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| 13:29 | aude_c[m] | Thanks Joubu ! |
| 13:42 | caroline | cait, do you have time to answer some questions about serials and acquisitions? There is a process I'm not sure about |
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| 13:45 | caroline | also aude_c[m] I might be a teensy bit late tomorrow. I have a daily meeting at the same time, although our meeting is just around 15 minutes (it's just a daily coordination thing we do at the beginning of the day) |
| 13:55 | cait | Ic an try! |
| 13:56 | caroline: I can try :) | |
| 13:57 | caroline | thanks! it's about adding serial subscriptions to acquisitions... I'm trying to figure out how it works "in real life". I get how it works in Koha, but some of it doesn't make sense.... |
| 13:58 | So you create a basket, add a subscription. Then you have to "receive" it as if it's a book right? Even though you don't really receive it? | |
| 13:59 | Joubu | Annelisterman[m], and others: I have added a local repository of "LibreTranslate" to provide suggestions on Weblate. Please let me know how accurate/useful it is. |
| 13:59 | this is for testing purpose | |
| 14:00 | caroline | And when you renew the subscription, there is nothing automatically done in acq even if the subscription is already linked to a basket? |
| 14:03 | I also noted this before but I think it's a bug: even after the number of issues set in the subscription, the issues keep being generated. And if you delete the last one, it generates the next one. There is no way to not have one last unreceived issue (at least I didn't find one) | |
| 14:06 | Annelisterman[m] | Joubu: I've seen two suggestions from LibreTranslate so far and those were quite useless (first one had completely wrong context, other one was same as the original). But let's see if they get better. :) |
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| 14:13 | cait | back, reading! sorry, got distracted |
| 14:14 | caroline: I think your last point about the last issue is separate from the others - if you "close" a subscription the last issue will be the last, but that's the only way right now. It doesn't really "end" - I think it might be something that coudl make sense to change | |
| 14:15 | For the connection I think most of our libraries have decided to use a combination of "order from subscription" with "standing order" now | |
| 14:15 | we treat the receive as "processing invoices" | |
| 14:15 | ussually they get one invoice a year, so quantity is 1 | |
| 14:15 | ... and it's a standing order so it has to be 1 anyway | |
| 14:16 | the main issue we have is that they want it to show up as encumbered in the budgets, but they don't want to recreate the orders every year | |
| 14:16 | most of those subscriptions never end until they are actively cancelled | |
| 14:16 | Koha doesn't have a super nice workflow for those yet | |
| 14:16 | caroline | ok I'll try that, it makes sense |
| 14:17 | Joubu | Annelisterman[m]: I am getting quite good results, even for full sentences (in French) |
| 14:17 | cait | the problem with standing orers is that the budgets are still wrong one way or another |
| 14:17 | if you have standing order with an amount, that amount will keep showing up encumbered and later spent | |
| 14:17 | if yu leave at 0 you don't see how much you are going to spend... | |
| 14:18 | but it's the lesser evil I guess | |
| 14:18 | we have suggested using the copy order funtionality to recreate the orders in the next year, but that hasn't been adopted | |
| 14:19 | caroline | I was thinking that if we were to improve it, the "order from subscription" should be a different workflow |
| 14:19 | cait | and yes, there is no connection between the receive issue and the receive (invoice) in acq, nothin you do in acq will alter yur subscription, or only the acq details tab there |
| 14:21 | I still think copying them to the new year might be the most accurate action Koha wise | |
| 14:21 | the standing order is not really quite right here | |
| 14:23 | caroline | Ok, I'll try to figure out something for my client. It's their first year using koha (and serials) and they were quite exasperated. I kind of understand, serials is not easy at all |
| 14:26 | thanks for your help! | |
| 14:29 | cait | we should certainly discuss the workflow there sometime and come up with some improvement ideas :) |
| 14:29 | MichaelaSieberBIB[m] might be on board too | |
| 14:29 | caroline | I know the french user group is working on improving serials, but from what I've seen, their work is only for the serials part, not hte link to acquisitions |
| 14:38 | cait | caroline: I didn't know that, is there anything online? |
| 14:38 | caroline | so far it's on the french mailing list... I'll check if they have it on their website |
| 14:39 | hm, they haven't added it yet | |
| 14:40 | I can forward you the test plan they have if you want? | |
| 14:51 | cait | hm yes please :) |
| 15:14 | oleonard-away: around? | |
| 15:14 | oleonard | yes |
| 15:18 | thd | ashimema: Are you semi-present now? |
| 15:18 | cait | I was wondering about this string: https://translate.koha-communi[…]=07e14f31c27132d3 |
| 15:18 | I filed a bug to look at it later (35422) | |
| 15:18 | ashimema | On a school run |
| 15:19 | Not managed to talk to our team here about email yet I'm afraid | |
| 15:31 | cait | 2 more files to translate -installer and prefs |
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| 15:32 | caroline | cait++ woot! |
| 15:32 | lukeg | Morning |
| 15:32 | caroline | when is the deadline? |
| 15:33 | I have 3 left, 94%, 95%, and 96% | |
| 15:33 | aude_c[m] | <caroline> "also aude_c I might be a..." <- caroline: Thank you for letting me know 👍️ |
| 15:37 | tcohen[m] | When caroline and cait finish their translations, that's the deadline |
| 15:37 | caroline | lol! |
| 15:40 | oh yeah... I'm at "Bookings"... that's why I had stopped doing staff-prog | |
| 15:40 | how did you all translate Bookings? In french, it would be the same word as hold | |
| 15:43 | thd | ashimema: I am going to announce the forthcoming Feb. 2024 issue on at least the koha-devel list. |
| 15:43 | aude_c[m] | Would it be relevant to cheat a bit and call them something like "Réservations anticipées" ? |
| 15:44 | caroline | that's an idea! |
| 15:45 | aude_c[m] | Just thinking about that because I've already been asked what was the difference between holds and bookings... And my reply was something like: holds = reservation of next available item for period specified by circ rules (loan + renewal); booking = reservation in advance for specific period of time |
| 15:46 | caroline | one of our clients has that functionality and they call it "Mise de côté", but I think it's too similar to Holds awaiting pickup |
| 15:47 | cait | in German... Reservierung oder Buchung I think - so we are not too far off Booking |
| 15:47 | we use something different for the holds, so that works out this time | |
| 15:47 | caroline | according to deepl, Reservierung oder Buchung is the same word in french as hold |
| 15:48 | cait | I had some trobule with the vnedor issues not to get them confused with serial issues |
| 15:48 | caroline: interesting! | |
| 15:48 | aude_c[m] | And "Mise de côté" would sound weird if people start using Bookings for things like rooms... (which they already are over here - even if that means having a fake bib record for each room) |
| 15:49 | cait | aude_c[m]: there is a nice room reservation plugin from paulderscheid[m] :) |
| 15:49 | caroline | I haven't got to vendor issues yet, but I would probably use the word for problem |
| 15:49 | paulderscheid[m] | Yeah, got a lot better in the last release |
| 15:49 | cait | yeah i did, just had to sort out what was a vendor issue string and wahtnot :) |
| 15:50 | caroline | ah ok! |
| 15:50 | yes, context would probably help if the string is just "Issue" | |
| 15:50 | cait | so be careful witht he issues when you get there :) it helps that strings from the same files now appear together mostly |
| 15:54 | aude_c[m] | cait: Yes, still need to try that! 👍️ |
| 15:56 | cait | :) |
| 15:57 | aude_c[m] | caroline: I will let you do the honours of merging the new preservation chapter on the manual (as you're the one who's done the hard work of checking it for errors 🙂) |
| 15:57 | caroline | lol ok! |
| 15:57 | aude_c[m] | and I will follow-up with a tweak to index.rst |
| 15:58 | caroline | I was going to try to add it directly... not sure if I'll be able, we'll see |
| 15:58 | aude_c[m] | 👍️ |
| 15:59 | caroline | did you read to check for typos? I know Joubu found a couple |
| 15:59 | aude_c[m] | Ah no I didn't |
| 16:00 | caroline | ok, worst comes to worst, we can correct them after |
| 16:00 | aude_c[m] | I can do that afterwards and fix them myself? Don't want to discourage Amaury 😅 |
| 16:00 | caroline | same lol! |
| 16:17 | paulderscheid[m] | Just out of curiosity, what does this convention mean $THE_something? |
| 16:17 | Is there some deeper meaning to it or just to avoid reassignment? | |
| 16:38 | caroline | aude_c[m], I just realized, there is no version note on the preservation module chapter |
| 16:38 | can you add it with your spelling corrections? | |
| 16:38 | aude_c[m] | Hehe! Yes, I will |
| 16:38 | caroline | https://koha-community.org/man[…]preservation.html |
| 16:38 | There are a couple of formatting issues as well | |
| 16:39 | but I'm very impressed for a first contribution! | |
| 16:39 | aude_c[m] | Yes, I can see that already! |
| 16:40 | And yes, totally impressed too 👏 | |
| 16:40 | caroline | I hadn't realized the "Train" icon was an actual train... If we change it in translation the icon won't make any sense |
| 16:40 | aude_c[m] | Not sure if he's around of what his proper nickname is but |
| 16:40 | ashimema | hahahahaha |
| 16:41 | aude_c[m] | amaurygau++ for the massive contribution to the Manual that is the Preservation chapter! |
| 16:41 | caroline | amaurygau++ |
| 16:42 | aude_c[m] | I'm too bothered by the icon... The waiting list one looks a recycling icon to me 😅 |
| 16:42 | caroline | yes, I'm not sure about that one either |
| 16:42 | aude_c[m] | I'm *not too bothered, is what I meant |
| 16:42 | caroline | somehow that's how I read it anyway lol! |
| 16:43 | aude_c[m] | So my thinking is that it doesn't matter what you translate it as |
| 16:43 | thd | For good fun, sending a message to the mailing list which accidentally includes someone else's HTML attachement produces strange behaviour from Mailman. Beware the forward function as a quick link to a mailing list compose window. |
| 16:43 | aude_c[m] | The train icon conveys to me the idea of something that's going to go on its way :D |
| 16:44 | and that works | |
| 16:46 | ashimema | choo choo |
| 16:47 | aude_c[m] | Exactly :D The batch of things is going on a journey! |
| 16:48 | thd | I think previously David Cook had complained that he had not seen his own messages copied back to him from the koha-devel mailing list. Maybe the lack of a copy back is unrelated and Mailman has sanctioned me for abusing the email client forward function. |
| 16:48 | aude_c[m] | I'm almost surprised the Waiting list isn't called the Waiting room 😉 |
| 16:50 | thd | If you leave the waiting room you go to the back of the queue on the waiting list. |
| 16:52 | aude_c[m] | haha! |
| 17:05 | thd | caroline: Are you subscribed to the koha-devel list? |
| 17:06 | caroline | thd, no |
| 17:06 | but some of my colleagues are, do you need to check something? | |
| 17:07 | thd | I need to know if my message to the koha-devel list was sent to anyone today. |
| 17:08 | caroline | ok I asked on the company chat, I'll let you know |
| 17:08 | thd | I accidentally had an HTML attachment from David Cook in the compose window and now my messages to the list are not copied back to me. |
| 17:08 | I might be quarantined by mailman for bad behaviour with HTML attachments which I never use. | |
| 17:09 | Or Mailman may now presume me to merely be another alias for David Cook. | |
| 17:09 | caroline | One of my colleagues said he received two, both about the Feb 2024 email thing |
| 17:10 | thd | Yes one had the mistaken HTML attachment for which someone would see a completely different email message if viewing through a client which defaults to HTML. |
| 17:10 | caroline | It's also in the archive, which is usually a good indicator that it was sent https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ember/thread.html |
| 17:12 | thd | I saw it in the archive but I was not certain that I was not quarantined in some way because I have no copy back and I am set to receive copies back. |
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| 17:12 | thd | Thus I am concerned that Mailman now has me identified as David Cook. |
| 17:13 | fridolin: are you here? | |
| 17:15 | fridolin | thd: yeps |
| 17:16 | thd | Did you see my message with implementation details about fixing DKIM signing and re-signing for lists.koha-community.org? |
| 17:17 | fridolin: I sent details to you and lds offlist. | |
| 17:18 | fridolin | thd: mmm its more a subject for lds, too deep tech for me ;) |
| 17:18 | thd | I had communicated with lds on IRC about a week ago. |
| 17:19 | fridolin | ah great |
| 17:19 | thd | A week ago. |
| 17:20 | oleonard | cait: Bug 35420 is a tough one |
| 17:20 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35420 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Update page titles and breadcrumbs for Serial alert subscriptions in the OPAC patron account |
| 17:20 | tcohen[m] | paulderscheid: about $THE_* the idea is that you deal with objects on your code, and $THE_ is the one we are going to return |
| 17:20 | might be worth revisiting at some point | |
| 17:20 | we could've picked $*_to_return or smth | |
| 17:21 | thd | At the end of last week I discovered that there may be an actual priority for Feb. about which I wrote again offlist to you and lds with details and onlist to the koha-devel list. list |
| 17:21 | paulderscheid[m] | Yeah, got that. But I was rather curious concerning the actual string 'THE'. Was that just a random pick? |
| 17:22 | tcohen[m]: Yeah, alright. Makes sense. | |
| 17:22 | Thanks tcohen. | |
| 17:22 | thd | fridolin: I am not certain I have a reliable way to communicate with lds to know whether he has the message and has it mind to do something before Feb. |
| 17:23 | tcohen[m] | as nugged pointed me on a hackfest: sometimes you think something is obvious because everyone will get it, but that's not always good practice for code maintenance |
| 17:23 | paulderscheid[m] | Ha, es verdad :D |
| 17:24 | thd | fridolin: Alternately, maybe lds wants to wait and see whether Gmail gives a false pass for broken dkim because it is still too low priority. |
| 17:26 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:30 | oleonard | What determines whether a title can be booked? |
| 17:30 | aude_c[m] | It's at item level |
| 17:31 | You can make an item "bookable" | |
| 17:32 | * aude_c[m] | uploaded an image: (11KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]at%2017.32.00.png > |
| 17:33 | oleonard | Oh wow, you have to change it at the item level? That seems very odd to me |
| 17:33 | But thank you aude_c[m] | |
| 17:33 | aude_c[m] | You're welcome! |
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| 17:38 | tcohen[m] | hey #koha, how are you doing with translations? |
| 17:39 | cait | oleonard: oh! |
| 17:39 | tcohen[m]: installer and prefs will wait for tomorrow | |
| 17:39 | bye all | |
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| 18:08 | thd | fridolin: At least I have resolved the issue of receiving copies of my own message back on koha-devel. Use the bare form koha-devellists.koha-community.org and not "koha-devel" <koha-listkoha-community.org> . Probably a Mailman bug but it is not worth my investigating further at this time. |
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