IRC log for #koha, 2023-04-24

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03:41 thomas63[m] Hi there... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]NipFjKiydUJZmZUWy>)
04:31 I think I found it, so ignore my request for now, will try what I found....
06:08 magnuse_ \o/
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06:36 cait1 no strng update for 22.11 yet :(
06:37 MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: sorry, I don't know the other nicks right now - do you know anything from Bernardo?
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06:46 reiveune hello
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07:51 krimsonkharne[m] hi #koha
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08:29 marcelr o/
08:37 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Not heard anything about strings yet
08:38 ashimema It's 6am in argentina.. I'll try and catch Bernardo in a few hours
08:38 5.40am to be more precise..
08:38 yikes
08:45 marcelr anyone of you having a mysql8 db server at hand ?
08:45 ashimema afraid not here
08:45 marcelr ok
08:48 ashimema I actually was considering spinning the release today.. i presume people would be upset with that given the strings are still behind
08:48 marcelr @later tell tcohen please have a look at 33584
08:48 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
08:49 ashimema I'm really annoyed with translations right now to be frank.. the en-GB is totally screwed up and I'm unable to fix it without spending hundreds of hours clicking through each bloody 'suggestion'
08:49 not having offline translations is a nightmare frankly
08:49 pootle is no longer fit for purpose
08:49 marcelr it is quite laborious the whole process
08:50 ashimema it's a nightmare
08:50 marcelr i tend to only correct really bad translations and just live with the others
08:51 correct=offline change
08:51 ashimema ours are a right mess.. sysprefs are all mixed up for example
08:51 at some point one of the scripts borked them I think..
08:51 it shouldn't be this hard to reset
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09:52 cait ashimema: i'd be a little upset... I know they will install it right away probably
09:53 (release without translations)
09:53 I don't have any errors witht he files, but it would be nice if the web interface detected fatal errors...
09:54 ashimema I won't have time anyway today..
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09:55 cait1 I am open to help testing something else
09:55 but we won't be able to pitch in with running/hosting something I am afraid
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10:27 oleonard Hi #koha
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10:34 marcelr Seeing this too? Goto Acquisition home. Check console for: Uncaught TypeError: this.data(...) is undefined     jQuery 2     <anonymous> https://DOMAIN/cgi-bin/koha/ac[…]cqui-home.pl:1245     jQuery 13
10:36 davidnind marcelr: I'm not seeing that on master
10:37 marcelr in your browser dev console
10:37 ok it might be data dependent
10:37 i guess my acq is very empty here
10:40 davidnind yes, tried in FireFox and in Google Chrome
10:40 marcelr thx
10:40 y
10:40 wrong window
10:42 oleonard marcelr: Do you have no budgets or funds?
10:43 marcelr i think so, quite fresh install
10:44 oleonard I don't see the error, but that seems like a likely place to look
10:45 marcelr seeing also jQuery.Deferred exception: this.data(...) is undefined expandAll@https://DOMAIN/intranet-tmpl/l[…]1200022.js:481:12
10:46 tcohen hola #koha
10:46 marcelr hi tcohen
10:51 cait I'll set pu the roles page for 23.11, ok?
10:53 no vetos :)
10:55 davidnind cait++
10:57 marcelr: I see the error if I delete all the budgets
10:59 cait @later tell tuxayo has the dev meeting be rescheduled yet? (do you know?)
10:59 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
11:00 marcelr great davidnind or at least good to know :)
11:00 this line number 1245 does not really help
11:03 davidnind cait: do you want me to set things up for this week for the dev meeting?
11:04 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_23.11 < it's open!
11:04 oleonard marcelr: No, but the Firefox console does seem to link to the problematic line in jquery.treetable
11:04 cait davidnind: I am not sure if a date was set yet or not - the wiki 'next meetings' said 12th
11:04 if a date has been set, that would be great - or maybe we just make it wednesday?
11:05 switching computers, bakc in a bit
11:05 davidnind I think we just make it at the normal time for this Wednesday
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11:08 davidnind also making it an hour earlier
11:10 cabillman[m] mtj: I would be shocked if resources is the issue. I have the functions split up because in the past student searches would impact our staff's ability to complete circulation
11:13 so this particular box has 4 cpu's and 16gb of ram. Only running the intranet, zebra, and memcache
11:13 elastic, mysql, and opac are all on separate servers
11:17 cait2 might be the wrong time for mtj, but you never know
11:18 davidnind I've created an agenda for the Development Meeting for this week, 26 April (have made the time an hour earlier) https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_26_April_2023
11:18 cait2: it will be 2am here, but as you say you never know with mtj...
11:20 cait2 similar with this davidnind it seems!
11:21 davidnind hehe
11:22 cait2 davidnind: did you add it manually? we might have been supposedto run the script, the calendar entry is not there yet
11:24 davidnind cait2: it should be there now (I had incorrectly just added it to my own calendar instead of the Koha Community calendar...
11:25 cait2 ah!
11:25 davidnind++ :)
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11:31 davidnind tcohen: I've set up the agenda and calendar entry for the next Development IRC Meeting for the 26 April 2023 14:00 UTC (I moved it forward an hour from 15:00) - feel free to change the time if you would like it earlier or later
11:46 tcohen thank you so much davidnind
11:46 one hour earlier would be the best for me
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11:47 marcelr o/
11:48 tcohen should we make a decision on gitea -> forgejo?
11:49 davidnind tcohen: so 13:00?
11:50 * tcohen checks local time to avoid confusions with daylight saving things
11:52 marcelr davidnind++ ## thx for testing mysql 8, will have another look
11:53 tcohen davidnind: 14 UTC is correct
11:53 really? 70 PQA bugs?=
11:53 yikes
11:56 marcelr hmm
11:58 mtj hey #koha
11:59 ashimema: i have been looking a bit at weblate, it has some nice bulk import features
11:59 tcohen weblate++
12:01 mtj being able to export translations, search/replace, then upload - would be useful
12:01 tcohen mtj do you have a docker-compose for running it?
12:01 mtj ashimema could apply his fixes in one go
12:02 tcohen: hmm not yet, i did a manual install on a ldev vm
12:02 https://hub.docker.com/r/weblate/weblate
12:02 tcohen https://github.com/WeblateOrg/docker-compose
12:03 mtj https://docs.weblate.org/en/la[…]stall/docker.html
12:03 perfect
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12:06 mtj cabillman[m]: you probably want to start with apache and plack logging
12:07 cait2 tcohen: you don't like your queue?
12:07 ;)
12:09 * tcohen loves it, just didn't expect so much work this monday
12:21 mtj cabillman[m]: having your koha split between servers introduces complexity
12:22 cabillman[m]: is this a new koha? have your recently upgraded? did the problem happen previously? etc
12:23 have you changed anything recently? can you replicate the problem on a test system?
12:27 cabillman[m]: its often webcrawlers or big sql reports that cause koha service problems
12:33 cait2 tcohen++
12:37 marcelr davidnind: i tested now myself with mysql8, could reproduce and fixed it
12:37 still able to confirm ?
12:39 tcohen, solved two mysql peculiarities on 33584 now for Jenkins to go green
12:40 cait2 marcel++
12:41 ashimema nice one
12:49 cabillman[m] mtj: these were new servers for an upgrade/migration and I was the only one able to access them via a VPN
12:50 I suspect this might have just been a timeout issue with jumping on/off the vpn because and holding up the plack processes
12:50 I couldn't even curl the plack unix socket, it would just hang
12:51 mtj hi cabillman[m], yeah.. its likely its a network issue
12:52 you can test locally on the server using 'apt install xvfb x11vnc fluxbox'
12:53 ..and run firefox from there
12:53 tcohen marcelr++
12:55 mtj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvfb
12:55 marcelr i would not recommend running Koha on mysql8 given such things btw
12:56 mtj cabillman[m]: try accessing koha via apache, rather than the plack socket
12:56 cabillman[m] mtj: I was testing with curl on the server itself. Apache didn't respond so I tried the plack unix socket
12:57 the first time things were locked up i bounced plack and everything was fine
12:57 the second time i let it go and it eventually fixed itself. CPU was 0 the entire time
12:59 things seem to be ok right now with our actual users in
12:59 i'm still thinking this might have just been timeout related with my connection dropping on/off and the vpn
13:00 thanks for helping think this through
13:05 mtj cabillman[m]: no probs, consider installing munin (or similar) on the servers, to track its behavior
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13:07 mtj look for spikes in busy apache processes, for a start
13:11 tcohen marcelr, #koha this needs urgent attention 33576
13:15 marcelr tcohen: i agree with it but couldnt test it
13:16 i can add qa stamp after signoff
13:18 tcohen cool, thanks marcelr
13:19 I really want your feedback on that one
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15:06 tcohen mtj: can we schedule a call in a couple hours?
15:06 need to talk about the build pipeline
15:07 cait2 5 am in nz now :)
15:08 oh 3 am - daylight savings
15:15 ashimema cait2 still around?
15:15 are cn_source, cn_class, cn_item, cn_suggix and cn_sort in the biblioitems table all doing stuff..
15:15 do you happen to know
15:15 * ashimema can't seem to trace the code back
15:22 cait2 ashimema: i think they don't do anything actually
15:22 I am not sure if cn_source woudl be inherited to the item...
15:22 we don't ever use them right now
15:23 I don't think they are mapped to any MARC fields by default, or are they?
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15:52 reiveune bye
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17:15 tcohen @seen mtj
17:15 huginn tcohen: mtj was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <mtj> look for spikes in busy apache processes, for a start
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18:41 oleonard-away cait1 I think that's all the breadcrumb wrapper patches... Except for offline circ which I don't want to deal with XD
18:42 oleonard As far as I can tell it's time to retire the "built-in" offline circulation system.
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19:11 cait oleonard: awesome
19:11 shoudl we ask on ml or so for sign-offs?
19:13 davidnind I'm working through the two requiring sign off now
19:14 cait thx :)
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