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| Time | Nick | Message | 
|---|---|---|
| 03:41 | thomas63[m] | Hi there... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]NipFjKiydUJZmZUWy>) | 
| 04:31 | I think I found it, so ignore my request for now, will try what I found.... | |
| 06:08 | magnuse_ | \o/ | 
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| 06:36 | cait1 | no strng update for 22.11 yet :( | 
| 06:37 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: sorry, I don't know the other nicks right now - do you know anything from Bernardo? | |
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| 06:46 | reiveune | hello | 
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| 07:51 | krimsonkharne[m] | hi #koha | 
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| 08:29 | marcelr | o/ | 
| 08:37 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | Not heard anything about strings yet | 
| 08:38 | ashimema | It's 6am in argentina.. I'll try and catch Bernardo in a few hours | 
| 08:38 | 5.40am to be more precise.. | |
| 08:38 | yikes | |
| 08:45 | marcelr | anyone of you having a mysql8 db server at hand ? | 
| 08:45 | ashimema | afraid not here | 
| 08:45 | marcelr | ok | 
| 08:48 | ashimema | I actually was considering spinning the release today.. i presume people would be upset with that given the strings are still behind | 
| 08:48 | marcelr | @later tell tcohen please have a look at 33584 | 
| 08:48 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. | 
| 08:49 | ashimema | I'm really annoyed with translations right now to be frank.. the en-GB is totally screwed up and I'm unable to fix it without spending hundreds of hours clicking through each bloody 'suggestion' | 
| 08:49 | not having offline translations is a nightmare frankly | |
| 08:49 | pootle is no longer fit for purpose | |
| 08:49 | marcelr | it is quite laborious the whole process | 
| 08:50 | ashimema | it's a nightmare | 
| 08:50 | marcelr | i tend to only correct really bad translations and just live with the others | 
| 08:51 | correct=offline change | |
| 08:51 | ashimema | ours are a right mess.. sysprefs are all mixed up for example | 
| 08:51 | at some point one of the scripts borked them I think.. | |
| 08:51 | it shouldn't be this hard to reset | |
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| 09:52 | cait | ashimema: i'd be a little upset... I know they will install it right away probably | 
| 09:53 | (release without translations) | |
| 09:53 | I don't have any errors witht he files, but it would be nice if the web interface detected fatal errors... | |
| 09:54 | ashimema | I won't have time anyway today.. | 
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| 09:55 | cait1 | I am open to help testing something else | 
| 09:55 | but we won't be able to pitch in with running/hosting something I am afraid | |
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| 10:27 | oleonard | Hi #koha | 
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| 10:34 | marcelr | Seeing this too? Goto Acquisition home. Check console for: Uncaught TypeError: this.data(...) is undefined jQuery 2 <anonymous> https://DOMAIN/cgi-bin/koha/ac[…]cqui-home.pl:1245 jQuery 13 | 
| 10:36 | davidnind | marcelr: I'm not seeing that on master | 
| 10:37 | marcelr | in your browser dev console | 
| 10:37 | ok it might be data dependent | |
| 10:37 | i guess my acq is very empty here | |
| 10:40 | davidnind | yes, tried in FireFox and in Google Chrome | 
| 10:40 | marcelr | thx | 
| 10:40 | y | |
| 10:40 | wrong window | |
| 10:42 | oleonard | marcelr: Do you have no budgets or funds? | 
| 10:43 | marcelr | i think so, quite fresh install | 
| 10:44 | oleonard | I don't see the error, but that seems like a likely place to look | 
| 10:45 | marcelr | seeing also jQuery.Deferred exception: this.data(...) is undefined expandAll@https://DOMAIN/intranet-tmpl/l[…]1200022.js:481:12 | 
| 10:46 | tcohen | hola #koha | 
| 10:46 | marcelr | hi tcohen | 
| 10:51 | cait | I'll set pu the roles page for 23.11, ok? | 
| 10:53 | no vetos :) | |
| 10:55 | davidnind | cait++ | 
| 10:57 | marcelr: I see the error if I delete all the budgets | |
| 10:59 | cait | @later tell tuxayo has the dev meeting be rescheduled yet? (do you know?) | 
| 10:59 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. | 
| 11:00 | marcelr | great davidnind or at least good to know :) | 
| 11:00 | this line number 1245 does not really help | |
| 11:03 | davidnind | cait: do you want me to set things up for this week for the dev meeting? | 
| 11:04 | cait | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_23.11 < it's open! | 
| 11:04 | oleonard | marcelr: No, but the Firefox console does seem to link to the problematic line in jquery.treetable | 
| 11:04 | cait | davidnind: I am not sure if a date was set yet or not - the wiki 'next meetings' said 12th | 
| 11:04 | if a date has been set, that would be great - or maybe we just make it wednesday? | |
| 11:05 | switching computers, bakc in a bit | |
| 11:05 | davidnind | I think we just make it at the normal time for this Wednesday | 
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| 11:08 | davidnind | also making it an hour earlier | 
| 11:10 | cabillman[m] | mtj: I would be shocked if resources is the issue. I have the functions split up because in the past student searches would impact our staff's ability to complete circulation | 
| 11:13 | so this particular box has 4 cpu's and 16gb of ram. Only running the intranet, zebra, and memcache | |
| 11:13 | elastic, mysql, and opac are all on separate servers | |
| 11:17 | cait2 | might be the wrong time for mtj, but you never know | 
| 11:18 | davidnind | I've created an agenda for the Development Meeting for this week, 26 April (have made the time an hour earlier) https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_26_April_2023 | 
| 11:18 | cait2: it will be 2am here, but as you say you never know with mtj... | |
| 11:20 | cait2 | similar with this davidnind it seems! | 
| 11:21 | davidnind | hehe | 
| 11:22 | cait2 | davidnind: did you add it manually? we might have been supposedto run the script, the calendar entry is not there yet | 
| 11:24 | davidnind | cait2: it should be there now (I had incorrectly just added it to my own calendar instead of the Koha Community calendar... | 
| 11:25 | cait2 | ah! | 
| 11:25 | davidnind++ :) | |
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| 11:31 | davidnind | tcohen: I've set up the agenda and calendar entry for the next Development IRC Meeting for the 26 April 2023 14:00 UTC (I moved it forward an hour from 15:00) - feel free to change the time if you would like it earlier or later | 
| 11:46 | tcohen | thank you so much davidnind | 
| 11:46 | one hour earlier would be the best for me | |
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| 11:47 | marcelr | o/ | 
| 11:48 | tcohen | should we make a decision on gitea -> forgejo? | 
| 11:49 | davidnind | tcohen: so 13:00? | 
| 11:50 | * tcohen | checks local time to avoid confusions with daylight saving things | 
| 11:52 | marcelr | davidnind++ ## thx for testing mysql 8, will have another look | 
| 11:53 | tcohen | davidnind: 14 UTC is correct | 
| 11:53 | really? 70 PQA bugs?= | |
| 11:53 | yikes | |
| 11:56 | marcelr | hmm | 
| 11:58 | mtj | hey #koha | 
| 11:59 | ashimema: i have been looking a bit at weblate, it has some nice bulk import features | |
| 11:59 | tcohen | weblate++ | 
| 12:01 | mtj | being able to export translations, search/replace, then upload - would be useful | 
| 12:01 | tcohen | mtj do you have a docker-compose for running it? | 
| 12:01 | mtj | ashimema could apply his fixes in one go | 
| 12:02 | tcohen: hmm not yet, i did a manual install on a ldev vm | |
| 12:02 | https://hub.docker.com/r/weblate/weblate | |
| 12:02 | tcohen | https://github.com/WeblateOrg/docker-compose | 
| 12:03 | mtj | https://docs.weblate.org/en/la[…]stall/docker.html | 
| 12:03 | perfect | |
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| 12:06 | mtj | cabillman[m]: you probably want to start with apache and plack logging | 
| 12:07 | cait2 | tcohen: you don't like your queue? | 
| 12:07 | ;) | |
| 12:09 | * tcohen | loves it, just didn't expect so much work this monday | 
| 12:21 | mtj | cabillman[m]: having your koha split between servers introduces complexity | 
| 12:22 | cabillman[m]: is this a new koha? have your recently upgraded? did the problem happen previously? etc | |
| 12:23 | have you changed anything recently? can you replicate the problem on a test system? | |
| 12:27 | cabillman[m]: its often webcrawlers or big sql reports that cause koha service problems | |
| 12:33 | cait2 | tcohen++ | 
| 12:37 | marcelr | davidnind: i tested now myself with mysql8, could reproduce and fixed it | 
| 12:37 | still able to confirm ? | |
| 12:39 | tcohen, solved two mysql peculiarities on 33584 now for Jenkins to go green | |
| 12:40 | cait2 | marcel++ | 
| 12:41 | ashimema | nice one | 
| 12:49 | cabillman[m] | mtj: these were new servers for an upgrade/migration and I was the only one able to access them via a VPN | 
| 12:50 | I suspect this might have just been a timeout issue with jumping on/off the vpn because and holding up the plack processes | |
| 12:50 | I couldn't even curl the plack unix socket, it would just hang | |
| 12:51 | mtj | hi cabillman[m], yeah.. its likely its a network issue | 
| 12:52 | you can test locally on the server using 'apt install xvfb x11vnc fluxbox' | |
| 12:53 | ..and run firefox from there | |
| 12:53 | tcohen | marcelr++ | 
| 12:55 | mtj | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvfb | 
| 12:55 | marcelr | i would not recommend running Koha on mysql8 given such things btw | 
| 12:56 | mtj | cabillman[m]: try accessing koha via apache, rather than the plack socket | 
| 12:56 | cabillman[m] | mtj: I was testing with curl on the server itself. Apache didn't respond so I tried the plack unix socket | 
| 12:57 | the first time things were locked up i bounced plack and everything was fine | |
| 12:57 | the second time i let it go and it eventually fixed itself. CPU was 0 the entire time | |
| 12:59 | things seem to be ok right now with our actual users in | |
| 12:59 | i'm still thinking this might have just been timeout related with my connection dropping on/off and the vpn | |
| 13:00 | thanks for helping think this through | |
| 13:05 | mtj | cabillman[m]: no probs, consider installing munin (or similar) on the servers, to track its behavior | 
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| 13:07 | mtj | look for spikes in busy apache processes, for a start | 
| 13:11 | tcohen | marcelr, #koha this needs urgent attention 33576 | 
| 13:15 | marcelr | tcohen: i agree with it but couldnt test it | 
| 13:16 | i can add qa stamp after signoff | |
| 13:18 | tcohen | cool, thanks marcelr | 
| 13:19 | I really want your feedback on that one | |
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| 15:06 | tcohen | mtj: can we schedule a call in a couple hours? | 
| 15:06 | need to talk about the build pipeline | |
| 15:07 | cait2 | 5 am in nz now :) | 
| 15:08 | oh 3 am - daylight savings | |
| 15:15 | ashimema | cait2 still around? | 
| 15:15 | are cn_source, cn_class, cn_item, cn_suggix and cn_sort in the biblioitems table all doing stuff.. | |
| 15:15 | do you happen to know | |
| 15:15 | * ashimema | can't seem to trace the code back | 
| 15:22 | cait2 | ashimema: i think they don't do anything actually | 
| 15:22 | I am not sure if cn_source woudl be inherited to the item... | |
| 15:22 | we don't ever use them right now | |
| 15:23 | I don't think they are mapped to any MARC fields by default, or are they? | |
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| 15:52 | reiveune | bye | 
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| 17:15 | tcohen | @seen mtj | 
| 17:15 | huginn | tcohen: mtj was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <mtj> look for spikes in busy apache processes, for a start | 
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| 18:41 | oleonard-away | cait1 I think that's all the breadcrumb wrapper patches... Except for offline circ which I don't want to deal with XD | 
| 18:42 | oleonard | As far as I can tell it's time to retire the "built-in" offline circulation system. | 
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| 19:11 | cait | oleonard: awesome | 
| 19:11 | shoudl we ask on ml or so for sign-offs? | |
| 19:13 | davidnind | I'm working through the two requiring sign off now | 
| 19:14 | cait | thx :) | 
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