IRC log for #koha, 2023-01-12

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00:30 tuxayo caroline: "How do I identify the security bugs" they aren't in the release notes :o
00:31 I'll email lukeg
00:42 aleisha rangi[m]  Hi :) I just sent an email to Wainui about the big issues on the latest security release. Can you ping them? My previous email might have lead them to a very hard backport attempt that might not be necessary.
00:48 mtj hi tuxayo
01:03 ..ill try to finish off this jenkins secuirty-build thing today
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07:13 marcelr o/
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07:31 reiveune hello
07:32 marcelr hi reiveune
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08:13 Joubu mtj: Did you see bug 32609? What would be best for you?
08:13 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32609 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Remove compiled files from src
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08:28 cait hello #koha
08:28 marcelr hi cait
08:28 and alex_
08:30 alex_ Salut marcelr and cait
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09:17 ashimema morning
09:22 paulderscheid[m] Morning #koha
09:25 Could someone look at bug 32418. It's not very complex and just needs a sign-off.
09:25 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32418 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.derscheid, Needs Signoff , CRASH: Can't call method "unblessed" on an undefined value at cataloguing/additem.pl
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09:41 marcelr does anyone know if rabbit queues are persisted (on a volume) on restarting ktd containers?
09:56 cait pass
09:57 ashimema they might be.. but I don' think our worker is clever enough to process them
09:58 marcelr they might?
10:05 ashimema I don't know rabbit well
10:06 The queue data is all available in the database anyway though if you need it.. rabbit is simply used as a Comms piece of the puzzle
10:06 All the real data is in the database
10:07 * ashimema now always uses db polling and doesn't even install rabbit
10:13 marcelr well it isnt about rabbit itself it is about ktd actually; does ktd use a volume to persist the queues on restarting containers
10:13 otherwise you loose your queue and you will have dangling entries in the database
10:14 the whole setup needs further thought
10:19 paulderscheid[m] @seen mtj
10:19 huginn paulderscheid[m]: mtj was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 15 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <mtj> ..ill try to finish off this jenkins secuirty-build thing today
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11:40 oleonard Hi #koha
11:42 mtj hi paulderscheid[m], whats up?
11:43 paulderscheid[m] Was just wondering whether the arm stuff was already merged into mainline ktd mtj
11:44 mtj short version... no :/
11:45 paulderscheid[m] Ok
11:45 :_)
11:46 mtj i'll try to get something happening soon
11:47 paulderscheid[m] Thank you for your service! mtj++
11:49 mtj we need to decide on a few 'layout' things, to add it...
11:50 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, I guess it will be a hassle
11:52 mtj ive probably been overthinking the problem with merging it
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12:10 jabiertxof Hi, Im in debian and make a cron to run koha-run-backups and always use 2 days even editing the script and change days base from 2 to 7 in initial variable and dont pass parameter, can the date code be wrong?
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12:22 paulderscheid[m] You know what would be great.. If ktd included lnav so you could watch the whole log directory. Unforunately you have to compile it for aarch64 'cause they don't provide statically linked binaries for the architecture.
12:24 Just look at this goodness: https://snipboard.io/7JOHdI.jpg
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12:30 paulderscheid[m] It just occured to me that you can also watch the directory over ssh
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12:31 marcelr o/
12:33 mtj paulderscheid[m]: nice, is that tmux, or other?
12:33 paulderscheid[m] zellij
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12:37 mtj woo, looks great!
12:39 paulderscheid[m] It's kinda already configured tmux. :D
12:42 * ashimema has used byobu for years but always meant to get a bit more familiar with tmux proper
12:42 ashimema zellij looks interesting
12:42 as does lnav..
12:43 * ashimema is terrible at always using 'tail -f *'
12:43 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, me too. But it got very annoying.
12:45 ashimema perhaps you could add a nice alias to ktd..
12:46 paulderscheid[m] Is ktd also developed via bugzilla?
12:46 ashimema we already have ktd --logs
12:46 https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ha-testing-docker
12:46 add issues in gitlab
12:46 paulderscheid[m] Cool.
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12:48 paulderscheid[m] If you're looking for a bit better keybindings than the default for tmux, check this out ashimema: https://github.com/LMSCloudPau[…]n/tmux/.tmux.conf
12:49 ashimema my problem is my muscle memory
12:49 it knows the byobu keybindings
12:50 paulderscheid[m] Thankfully vim keybindings are becoming the standard in most dev tools.
12:50 ashimema those are nice looking at them
12:51 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, for tmux I have L U D R for left, up, down, right so I can remember them ^^
12:51 But hjkl is maybe the saner approach.
12:52 ashimema it's amazing how hard it is to switch one's mind set once you've used a set of keys
12:52 for byobu it's function keys to open new 'tab's and splits..
12:53 paulderscheid[m] Ah, that'd be a non-starter for me. Function row is too uncomfortable to reach on my keys.
12:53 ashimema fair enough
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12:54 magnuse__ kia ora khall_
12:54 * khall_ waves
12:54 magnuse__ \o/
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13:40 oleonard Joubu around?
13:47 Joubu oleonard: yes
13:47 bug 32614
13:47 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32614 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Highlight important comments
13:47 oleonard I'm looking at Bug 32609
13:47 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32609 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Remove compiled files from src
13:48 oleonard I'm curious about the removal of cssnano. What problem was it causing?
13:49 Joubu it was breaking the command, nothing was generated
13:49 that's why 'yarn build' didn't generate the compiled css
13:50 oleonard What's the difference between "yarn css:build" and "yarn css:build:prod" without the minification step?
13:50 Joubu the maps
13:51 oleonard I think the minification step is important. Should I look for an alternative tool?
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13:51 Joubu we can reintroduce cssnano or similar, but that was not the point of the patch
13:51 I just needed it to work
13:51 yes please
13:52 no idea since when it's broken
13:52 ashimema if you're doing that is it worthwhile looking at updateing from none-sass or whatever
13:53 it's been basically deprecated since nov 2018 apparently.
13:53 dart-sass is recommended as the alternative..
13:54 I remember that lib giving me all sorts of issues trying to install other node modules
13:55 Joubu the whole gulp file needs adjustements
13:55 ashimema indeed
13:55 Joubu but after we push that first step please :)
13:55 ashimema agreed
13:57 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello. I am writing from Bulgaria. We are currently working on standardizing the templates for creating bibliographic records in MARC 21. I would like to ask someone who works in a library if they can be contacted and share with us their methodology of creating bibliographic records.
14:00 oleonard Joubu: the cssnano step works fine for me. Not sure what to make of that.
14:04 Joubu oleonard: in ktd: `yarn build` => git status does not show anything. `yarn css' => There are changes
14:04 on master
14:05 `git reset --hard HEAD` then now I remove the 3 lines related to cssnano, `yarn build` => there are changes
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14:06 oleonard Both work for me in master
14:07 Joubu do you have something in node_modules?
14:07 mine is empty, and I am using the one from ktd
14:08 oleonard I do
14:10 Joubu Did I dream that you told me one of the two options was not working? like last week?
14:10 Or somebody else... memory...
14:10 oleonard Not me! :D
14:11 Why the question about having something in node_modules?
14:11 Joubu did you yarn install recently?
14:11 I just run `yarn install` and same, build is not generating anything
14:12 oleonard: if you have /kohadevbox/koha/node_modules (generated using yarn install) then you have something that can differ from me (versions of the modules)
14:12 if you don't have it, then 'yarn' commands will use /kohadevbox/node_modules, embeded in ktd
14:13 oleonard I see
14:13 Joubu if you remove node_modues then yarn build, you should not see something. If you yarn install then build, you should not see something.
14:13 *If* my assumption is correct
14:15 caroline NikolayGospodinov[m], you should try on the Koha mailing list, I think you'd have more chance of having an answer there
14:15 oleonard Joubu: I removed /kohadevbox/koha/node_modules and removed staff-global.css. I ran "yarn build" and staff-global.css was generated.
14:16 Joubu: Please understand I'm not disagreeing with your patch, I'm just confused about the cssnano problem
14:17 Joubu oleonard: hum indeed...
14:17 my assumption is incorrect then
14:18 I was also assuming that master was not up-to-date
14:18 if I am on master and run yarn build && git status, I don't see changes
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14:18 Joubu can you confirm that?
14:18 oleonard Confirmed
14:18 Joubu ok!
14:19 you are correct, I didn't test correctly
14:19 oleonard Does git do some kind of caching of gitignore?
14:20 Joubu I don't think so
14:22 oleonard: I've updated the remote branch and restore cssnano
14:26 oleonard Wait... Running 'yarn build' in master shouldn't result in any changes to staff-global.css!
14:27 Joubu yes, yes!
14:27 but I thought it was running behind
14:28 Didn't you... tell tcohen then it was missing compiled CSS changes? Like a couple of days ago?... memory... :-/
14:28 than*
14:28 that*
14:30 ashimema 22.11.x was..
14:30 It was suggested we build once at release time, instead of updating with every scss change
14:32 of course.. at release time I totally forgot that.. so the top two commits on our branch right now are a resync
14:33 Joubu something else for the pre-push hook
14:36 oleonard Joubu: I did say that about missing compiled CSS changes, yes.
14:38 jabiertxof hi sorry for the double question, anyone has in latest koha on debian use koha-run-backups with more than 2 days? it always delete all except 2 days. Thanks in advance
14:38 oleonard How should I go about installing a new node module now? the "npm install" command says I don't have permission
14:39 Joubu oleonard: yarn add
14:40 but it won't fix the perm issue
14:40 if you run yarn install under root, you need to yarn add under root
14:48 jabiertxof: just tried and it looks ok for me
14:52 jabiertxof more than 2 days?
14:52 NikolayGospodinov[m] Can i ask in wich tag the Author's mark is put
14:52 jabiertxof Joubu thanks
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14:53 jabiertxof it is into authoritiies also
14:53 caroline NikolayGospodinov[m], which MARC flavour are you using? In MARC21, it's 100, and I think in UNIMARC it's 200 but i'm not 100% sure
14:54 NikolayGospodinov[m] Marc21
14:54 jabiertxof 100
14:54 caroline for cataloging check also https://koha-community.org/man[…]oging-cheat-sheet
14:55 and https://loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/
14:56 Joubu jabiertxof: this is how I tested it: https://paste.koha-community.org/192
14:57 I edited /usr/sbin/koha-run-backups and replace the do loop by  echo $backupdir/$name-$date
14:57 and also commented the koha-dump line
14:58 oleonard The fact that Bugzilla's dependency graph uses the same color for "pushed to master" and "signed off" ... Surely there are more colors.
14:58 Joubu jabiertxof: you... quit too fast
14:58 NikolayGospodinov[m] And where is the author's mark placed if the book has no author?
14:58 Joubu jabiertxof: https://paste.koha-community.org/193
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15:01 Joubu oleonard: SO should be yellow and Pushed to master should be green
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15:03 Joubu oleonard: indeed, I am emailing rangi[m] with the patch
15:03 oleonard Joubu++
15:12 Joubu mtj: Master_D12 is failing because HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench is not installed - https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Build/consoleFull
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15:17 jabiertxof sorry Mmy pc Dies
15:21 Joubu jabiertxof: I've used this modified script to test https://paste.koha-community.org/193
15:29 jabiertxof but this dont remove old files larger than FX 7 dais
15:29 Joubu lukeg: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]cker/-/issues/337 th
15:29 jabiertxof Joubu
15:29 Joubu lukeg: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]cker/-/issues/337 - this should fix authentication_2fa.t for 22.05
15:31 jabiertxof the problem is even I do not use --days and touch this file to harcode initial var days to 7 always keep 2 days
15:31 Joubu jabiertxof: if you think you found a bug can you report it on our bug tracker with as much info as you can please?
15:31 jabiertxof thanks I go on
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15:38 jabiertxof Joubo there is one existing https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30627
15:38 huginn 04Bug 30627: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-run-backups delete the backup files after finished its job without caring days option
15:38 jabiertxof how I suscrive to get feedback on advances?
15:39 Joubu you will automatically get notifications when something happens there
15:40 @later tell liliputech Do you know why is Koha_21.11_D11 disabled on jenkins?
15:40 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:41 jabiertxof i add a comment also so hope new replies came to my inbox
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15:52 jabiertxof Thanks Joubu for the support!
15:55 ashimema caroline
15:55 wahanui i think caroline is there supposed to be a documentation meeting now?
15:55 ashimema if your using the ptfs-e sandboxes.. beware I'm still in the middle of fixing them
15:55 some things are broken
15:56 caroline wahanui, forget caroline
15:56 wahanui caroline: I forgot caroline
15:56 caroline made me panic for a moment
15:56 * ashimema only asks as I saw mlinlinbro had been created
15:56 caroline ok I think marie-luce is testing some patches
15:57 ashimema hopefully stuff is working for her
15:57 just send my apologies if something breaks please 😜
15:58 caroline no logbot! come back!
15:58 ashimema, will do!
15:59 ashimema 😄
16:01 marie-luce Yes, I was about to test, but apparently I got caught in the process ;)
16:02 I will delete it!
16:03 ashimema @seen paul_paulan
16:03 huginn ashimema: I have not seen paul_paulan.
16:12 reiveune bye
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16:29 ashimema lol
16:29 I can't spell today
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16:32 Joubu @seen paul_p
16:32 huginn Joubu: paul_p was last seen in #koha 1 year, 17 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, 21 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: * paul_p is from Marseille, France
16:36 ashimema LOL
16:44 caroline ptfs-e sandboxes should be stable again now.. I hope
16:44 caroline marie-luce ^
16:44 thanks ashimema++ !
16:44 ashimema aha, thanks
16:45 marie-luce thanks ashimema++
16:45 ashimema I just wish I was better with all the moving parts in the sandbox setup
16:46 it's a right mare to work through and fix when stuff goes wrong
16:46 still.. at least it's back
16:53 caroline don't fret ashimema, you're doing great (and so much) :)
17:11 cait[m] ashimema++
17:13 * ashimema clocks off.. I'm knackered
17:13 * cait[m] waves
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