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| 07:31 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:00 | alex_ | Bonjour |
| 09:03 | ashimema | Morning |
| 10:03 | cait1 | hola #koha |
| 10:51 | ashimema | I forget.. |
| 10:51 | whats our procedure for marking a bug as spam | |
| 10:51 | bug 31295 | |
| 10:51 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31295 is not accessible. |
| 10:51 | ashimema | oh.. it's in security anyways.. lol |
| 10:51 | cait1 | bug description = SPAM, Closed INVALIED and mark the comments urls and attachements as non-public |
| 10:52 | i just did it | |
| 10:52 | I marked the other earlier, but that one had escaped | |
| 10:53 | Joubu | I also mark the user as spammer |
| 10:53 | Admin > user > search > View > Edit > Disable text: "spammer" | |
| 10:53 | ashimema | nice one |
| 10:54 | ah.. not a user i can find.. | |
| 10:55 | aha.. already disabled. | |
| 10:55 | Joubu | I disabled it already |
| 10:55 | ashimema | cool |
| 10:55 | thanks 🙂 | |
| 10:55 | Joubu | 31295, I don't know which one is the other one |
| 10:56 | ashimema | ? |
| 10:59 | Joubu | cait1 was refering to an "other earlier" |
| 11:05 | perplexedtheta | Another packaging question. This time, about getting tests to pass; do we tend to use the unstable Debian suite, even when building stable releases? Because using 21.11 doesn't seem to be working well. |
| 11:06 | Also, is there a script or dockerfile somewhere that we use to build the community packages that I could inspect and compare against my own workings? Thanks! | |
| 11:06 | Joubu | perplexedtheta: https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 11:06 | search for "build statuses" | |
| 11:12 | perplexedtheta | Brill - I should be able to go fish with that info. Thanks! |
| 11:19 | cait[m] | there are instructions on the wiki for building packages - I have used that in the past |
| 11:19 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way | |
| 11:20 | I believe my coworker might work with them as well, but I usually don't build them, onyl did for QA a longer while ago | |
| 11:20 | perplexedtheta | Thanks, yeah the packages build fine but the tests keep failing! I'm beginning to think a better workflow might be to do the tests separate from the package building, using the KTD. |
| 11:21 | * perplexedtheta | will need to think long and hard... |
| 11:21 | cait[m] | some tests might assume the sample data |
| 11:21 | that could explain why they fail | |
| 11:22 | ashimema | mason will likely be around a bit again later.. |
| 11:22 | I'd be interested to know if he passes the no-test switch to pbuilder | |
| 11:22 | as you suggested cait, it might be as simple as the test data not being present.. | |
| 11:24 | What we're aiming to do at ptfs-e is start building packages from our own branch much more regularly and use that in production instead of the myriad of different install types and customisation we currently have.. but I added the caveat that we must make sure our custom branch has all the tests passing before we autobuild a package and roll it out 😜 | |
| 11:24 | to catch my mistakes in backports 😜 | |
| 11:24 | cait[m] | I usually stay away form changes that could break tests :) |
| 11:25 | but we built our own and have for years, quite happy with it | |
| 11:25 | perplexedtheta | Definitely interested to see how Mason does it. If he uses the nocheck flag, what am I doing wrong 😅 |
| 11:25 | cait[m] | one package for all too |
| 11:25 | perplexedtheta | doesn't* |
| 11:25 | cait: that would be nice. | |
| 11:25 | * perplexedtheta | dreams of a standardised world |
| 11:27 | cait[m] | we stay very close to master in general, mostly the change are about things we cannot share back (custom MARC fields, indexes, XSLT, internal API) |
| 11:38 | oleonard-away | o/ |
| 11:40 | cait[m] | hi oleonard ): |
| 11:40 | :) | |
| 11:48 | ashimema | I have a cataloguing question.. |
| 11:49 | it looks like with bug 30718 the dataaccessioned value builder plugin went from saving an iso date in the marc records to saving a localised one.. | |
| 11:49 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs documenting , Use flatpickr's altInput option everywhere |
| 11:49 | ashimema | was that a) intended.. and b) is that correct? |
| 11:50 | cait[m] | it should save an iso still -the field in the db won't store anything else |
| 11:50 | but you should now be able to enter a localised format | |
| 11:51 | 952$d? | |
| 11:53 | ashimema | brill.. |
| 11:53 | that makes sense | |
| 11:53 | cait[m] | I haven't tested, but that would be expected behaviour |
| 11:53 | ashimema | I'm getting my data person to double check what the customer is saying.. I have a feeling they're confused |
| 11:54 | cait[m] | we also fixed the display in the table above i tihnk... |
| 11:54 | or maybe that was already in an earlier version - so it should always show localised everywhere | |
| 12:08 | oleonard | UNIMARC has sooo many plugins |
| 12:13 | Joubu | ...and always iso in db |
| 12:31 | @later tell mtj do you agree with 32349? | |
| 12:31 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:45 | ashimema | is it just me or is bz struggling today |
| 12:45 | everything feels slow | |
| 13:03 | looks like we don't install Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer by default still... should we just have that as a dependency and install with the rest of our deps at this point? | |
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| 13:33 | Tylathos | Hey all :) My Koha installation is running since 2016. Which means it still runs with zebra. Are there instructions how to change to elasticsearch? |
| 13:38 | I always updated my installation, so it is on version 2022.11 | |
| 14:02 | cait1 | Tylathos: maybe this helps: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ian#Elasticsearch |
| 14:02 | I think it has all the bits and pieces I would expect | |
| 14:03 | also has a note for 22.11 - so that looks good | |
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| 14:21 | ashimema | is bugzilla down for anyone else? |
| 14:21 | caroline | yes, it's very slow |
| 14:22 | ashimema | wonder if it's time to consider sharing the load of that server a bit more.. I think it still sits of a personal server of rangi's.. not 100% sure.. amazing he's been donating this critical infra for so many years.... |
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| 14:57 | ashimema | next meeting? |
| 14:59 | cait1 | next irc meeting? |
| 14:59 | next meetings? | |
| 14:59 | we are missing wahanui | |
| 15:00 | ashimema | it's in a few minutes isn't it 😜 |
| 15:00 | cait1 | liek right now |
| 15:00 | tuxayo: ? | |
| 15:00 | * cait1 | still has to finish her slides for tomorrow's user meeting |
| 15:03 | ashimema | well.. if everyone has forgotten.. we should probably just reschedule |
| 15:09 | thd | Next week is a general meeting. Two meetings in one day tend to have poor attendance at one of them. |
| 15:11 | Today might be a slightly difficult day for US attendance with too close a proximity to the Thanksgiving holiday. | |
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| 15:21 | cait1 | ok, so maybe we have general next week and then reschedule the dev after? woudl work for me today |
| 15:21 | ashimema | works for me |
| 15:41 | oleonard | Anyone around who works with UNIMARC plugins? I'm confused about some of the scripts |
| 15:41 | For instance: value_builder/unimarc_field_123d.pl opens plugin_launcher.pl?plugin_name=unimarc_field_123g | |
| 15:43 | I would think 123g should be 123d.... copy-paste error? Or intentional? It means the link in the editor for 123d, 123e, and 123f all trigger the same plugin as 123g | |
| 15:43 | If it's intentional, why do the templates for 123d, 123e, and 123f exist? | |
| 15:43 | cait1 | hm it could be a typo |
| 15:44 | it's likely one was used as the base for the others - could you make a note on the bug maybe? | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | We need something like the bat signal but for UNIMARC |
| 15:45 | cait1 | tcohen++ mtj++ btw |
| 15:46 | got a report about fixed German package installation today - thank you | |
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| 16:05 | Joubu | tcohen: you shouldn't have pushed 32350 |
| 16:05 | it wasn't supposed to be pushed without the follow-up bug | |
| 16:09 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:12 | cait1 | bz really has an issue and i need to look up stufff |
| 16:15 | I am getting gateway timeouts now | |
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| 16:57 | emlam | Is Bugzilla down? I keep getting a 504 time-out error |
| 16:57 | Joubu | yes |
| 16:57 | Did someone email rangi[m]? | |
| 17:02 | @later tell tcohen 32370 - set_encoded_data need to be removed then | |
| 17:02 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:03 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen 32370 - JSONField.t has a copyright 2019 |
| 17:03 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:11 | cait1 | I can try to catch rangi via messenger |
| 17:17 | caroline | I'm a bit stumped... A library is asking me if its possible to permit onshelf holds from another branch only if the patron's branch doesn't have an item or the item is out |
| 17:17 | I feel like it's probably branch-specific rules? But I'm not sure | |
| 17:17 | oleonard | Hi caroline |
| 17:18 | caroline | my brain is broken on that point |
| 17:18 | oleonard | Man it is hard to function without Bugzilla isn't it? So instinctual to go there for info |
| 17:18 | caroline | hi oleonard! |
| 17:18 | cait1 | yes and no |
| 17:18 | look for available in the system preferences | |
| 17:19 | caroline | git it OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup |
| 17:19 | cait1 | hm ok, that might be about pickup location only |
| 17:19 | yeah | |
| 17:19 | you can't place a hold for pikcup at your own library if they have it on shelf | |
| 17:19 | but maybe still something youcould suggest? | |
| 17:19 | caroline | would never have thought of sysprefs... I was turning the circ rules inside out in my head to make sense of their question |
| 17:20 | cait1 | oleonard: yeah, i keep clicking links too :( doesn't help I am preparing a "new features in 22.11" presentation |
| 17:20 | tuxayo | > next meetings?... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]csQvLapWipYlVMgPc>) |
| 17:20 | caroline | cait1, which version are you coming from? |
| 17:20 | cait1 | this i for a user meeting tomorrow - 22.11 only, but there is enough there |
| 17:21 | caroline | I have the list of features from 21.11 and 22.05 in a spreadsheet |
| 17:21 | ok nvm then | |
| 17:21 | cait1 | tuxayo: i had scheduled it when you ran out -f or the earlier timeslot |
| 17:21 | was added t the calendar like that too | |
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| 17:21 | cait1 | caroline: thx for offering :) actually have those too, problem is I am also translting and sometimes I am not sure what something does... |
| 17:22 | tuxayo | Oops, I assumed it would continue to alternate and didn't look the calendar. |
| 17:24 | caroline | cait1, yeah the bug title isn't always descriptive of what it actually does... |
| 17:24 | maybe the release notes? | |
| 17:26 | cait1 | sandboxe are broken too |
| 17:26 | i feel sabotaged | |
| 17:26 | [30880] Expand OPACResultsUnavailableGroupingBy to have a ‘branch only’ option | |
| 17:26 | caroline | I'm sure your users will understand... |
| 17:26 | cait1 | [30195] Suggestion form in OPAC should use ISBN to FindDuplicate |
| 17:27 | yeah, those are missing notes (of course) | |
| 17:27 | is the second that we also check iof the isbn exists already when suggesting a suggestion si a duplicate? | |
| 17:27 | tuxayo | > i feel sabotaged |
| 17:27 | me too, bugzilla throws "504 Gateway Time-out" | |
| 17:28 | caroline | cait1, that's what I understand from the 2nd |
| 17:28 | cait1 | 30880 is really hard |
| 17:29 | caroline | yeah... there is already branch, so I'm not sure what branch only would do |
| 17:29 | tuxayo | bug 30880 |
| 17:29 | cait1 | no wahanui |
| 17:30 | Expand OPACResultsUnavailableGroupingBy to have a ‘branch only’ option | |
| 17:30 | tuxayo | it's supposed to be huginn / huginn` |
| 17:30 | cait1 | well tehy look it up on bugzilla... |
| 17:30 | tuxayo | @test |
| 17:30 | caroline | I'm not sure of the previous behaviour either. Is it that it groups by branch then status, but the new option will only group by branch? |
| 17:30 | cait1 | not sure |
| 17:30 | huginn | tuxayo: I suck |
| 17:30 | caroline | aw :( |
| 17:30 | cait1 | tuxayo: bugzilla is down, it can't work |
| 17:31 | tuxayo | ok, it's known, that's what I wanted to confirm. |
| 17:31 | thanks! | |
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| 17:33 | Lazaro_Arcos | Hi, I need price for support for instalation, configuration y migration of data at koha |
| 17:33 | some can help me? | |
| 17:34 | caroline | Lazaro_Arcos, check the paid support list https://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
| 17:34 | (at the bottom, you can check by country or continent) | |
| 17:34 | You have to contact the providers directly | |
| 17:38 | tuxayo | Having bugzilla down reminds of this XKCD comic: https://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 17:38 | caroline | lol! |
| 17:44 | cait1 | oleonard: maybe youknow that... bug 22276 - we now remember if someone changed their column settings |
| 17:44 | how long is that kept? | |
| 17:44 | session? | |
| 17:46 | oleonard | I can't remember off the top of my head but I think there isn't a mechanism to delete it. It stays in LocalStorage until someone changes it |
| 17:47 | cait1 | so localstorage would even be more long term i guess? |
| 17:48 | logner than logout? | |
| 17:48 | oleonard | We delete some LocalStorage items upon logout but not that |
| 17:55 | tuxayo | bugzilla works! |
| 17:56 | confetti! | |
| 17:56 | rangi[m] | its someones script again |
| 17:56 | its always someones badly written script | |
| 17:56 | tuxayo | rangi++ |
| 17:56 | So it's not an intentional DDOS? | |
| 17:56 | ashimema | rangi++ |
| 17:57 | nice to see you around rangi[m] 🙂 | |
| 17:57 | tuxayo | What are these script supposed to do? Crawl emails to spam/scam us? |
| 17:58 | rangi[m] | sometimes they are script ppl in the community write themselves, this just looks like a crawler for patches |
| 17:59 | * ashimema | wrote a script once, then when he realised it hit bz so hard he stopped.. |
| 17:59 | tuxayo | LOL |
| 17:59 | ashimema | there are some genuine mistakes.. |
| 18:00 | this was years ago.. when I was an rmaint or rm I think... we learn | |
| 18:00 | hmm.. seems my adding of new builds to Jenkins either didn't work right, or exposed some stuff I need to fix in 22.11.x already | |
| 18:02 | oleonard | Thank you rangi[m] ! |
| 18:05 | rangi[m] | https://paste.koha-community.org/19261 |
| 18:06 | most of the bots, then its just weird individual ones like today | |
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| 18:09 | tuxayo | > weird individual ones like today |
| 18:09 | Which obviously don't look at robot.txt | |
| 18:09 | If someone wants to crawl patches, they will do regardless | |
| 18:12 | > most of the bots | |
| 18:12 | So search engines can't index our bugtracker. Hopefully that's doesn't prevent too much people from finding stuff. | |
| 18:27 | cait1 | rangi++ |
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| 18:34 | cait left #koha | |
| 18:54 | caroline | rangi++ |
| 18:54 | tcohen | bye all, good luck poland :-P |
| 19:28 | davidnz | Just going to run a placeholder Development IRC meeting, since the meeting was deferred |
| 19:28 | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 30 November 2022 | |
| 19:28 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Nov 30 19:28:19 2022 UTC. The chair is davidnz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 19:28 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 19:28 | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_30_november_2022' | |
| 19:28 | davidnz | #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_30_November_2022 |
| 19:28 | #topic General development discussion | |
| 19:28 | #info Meeting deferred for a fortnight (so as not to clash with the General IRC meeting next week) | |
| 19:28 | #info IRC discussion: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-11-30#i_2464721 | |
| 19:28 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 19:29 | #info Next meeting: 14 December 2022, 15:00 UTC | |
| 19:29 | #endmeeting | |
| 19:29 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Nov 30 19:29:04 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:29 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-11-30-19.28.html | |
| 19:29 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-11-30-19.28.txt | |
| 19:29 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]30-19.28.log.html | |
| 19:40 | davidnz | FYI for the next development IRC meeting: agenda page created (https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]14_December_2022) and meeting added to the calendar |
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| 20:39 | davidnind | Please ignore - just testing what IRC username is recorded in the IRC log |
| 20:47 | tuxayo | davidnind++ |
| 20:47 | Should we plan another meeting for Oceania-Americas? | |
| 20:49 | davidnind | the 28th is straight after Christmas (for countries that observe this) |
| 20:50 | so maybe for 11th January - although many people go on holiday in January in the southern hemisphere (particularly New Zealand and Australia) | |
| 20:51 | I'll add to the agenda for discusion | |
| 20:57 | tuxayo | davidnind: thanks, you definitely know best about adequate dates for the region :) |
| 20:58 | ashimema | Thanks davidnind |
| 21:25 | davidnind | tuxayo: for NZ/Australia - not so much for USA |
| 21:27 | tuxayo | Right, I forgot again that this meeting is necessary for US East & Mountain timezone. 15 UTC is too early. |
| 21:42 | cait[m] | oleonard: hm the database column changes of my user don't appear to be stored - testing on the detail page making issues and renewals visible. Reloading the page they always reset to invisible. Same for making the home library invisible... but I recently tested on another table it was ok there. Could it be some config issue? |
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