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| 00:22 | tuxayo | mtj / mason around? How do you feel about advertising ES 7 support? News from last time: I tried to find real world usage and Lund University are using it since many months, even before Koha support they submitted the ES 7 patches. |
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| 01:28 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 01:29 | looks like VDF has fixed the internets | |
| 01:30 | tcohen or Joubu, could you push a new 22.11 git branch please | |
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| 01:38 | mtj | tuxayo: i think its ok to say 21.11 supports ES7 |
| 01:38 | we have ES7 tests passing on master for last 3-ish months | |
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| 03:06 | tuxayo | mtj: 21.11 ? All branches have the test passing since the last 3-ish months |
| 03:06 | *tests | |
| 03:08 | mtj | hi tuxayo, i think thats probably correct :) |
| 03:08 | https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/21.11/ | |
| 03:09 | ES7 tests are passing for last 2 deb and ubuntu-lts releases, for 21.11 | |
| 03:10 | tuxayo | I meant, why only 21.11? |
| 03:12 | mtj | aah, sorry was a typo |
| 03:13 | tuxayo: i think its ok to say 22.11 supports ES7 | |
| 03:13 | tuxayo | aaah lol |
| 03:14 | mtj: what's missing for the others? Or maybe after one or two months we can also advertise support for the others. | |
| 03:14 | mtj | i was worried that we pushed ES7 stuff to 22.05 mid cycle, that broke ES6 :/ |
| 03:15 | ..or forced users to upgrade from ES6 to ES7 mid cycle | |
| 03:15 | tuxayo | > ..or forced users to upgrade from ES6 to ES7 mid cycle |
| 03:15 | No way, thankfully that was never the plan | |
| 03:16 | > i was worried that we pushed ES7 stuff to 22.05 mid cycle, that broke ES6 :/ | |
| 03:16 | Indeed, that's the risk with adding support for a new version. ES6 being EOL kinda makes the tradeoff necessary. | |
| 03:16 | > that broke ES6 :/ | |
| 03:16 | Wait, really? | |
| 03:16 | Was there something else besides requiring 6.8 instead of of 6.X ? | |
| 03:18 | mtj | hmm, no... i was just *worried* that we might break ES6 |
| 03:20 | ..as you said, we did force ES6 users to v6.8 | |
| 03:21 | i think we should recommend ES7 for new 21.11 installs | |
| 03:21 | tuxayo | > hmm, no... i was just *worried* that we might break ES6 |
| 03:21 | Ah good, no known trouble ^o^ | |
| 03:21 | *22.11 | |
| 03:21 | mtj | aah, oops |
| 03:22 | i might need for covfefe | |
| 03:23 | tuxayo | > i think we should recommend ES7 for new 21.11 installs |
| 03:23 | Ok, so advertise and recommend ES7 for 22.11. And after some time advertise support for the other branches? (meanwhile write that as experimental support?) | |
| 03:25 | > i might need for covfefe | |
| 03:25 | mtj if you meant coffee then yes the last word makes the phrase very true :P | |
| 03:25 | Or maybe it's that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covfefe | |
| 03:27 | mtj | hmm, i guess we can now recommed ES7 for all new installs, on all supported branches |
| 03:27 | ...as we now have ES7 tests passing on stable/oldstable/o-o-stable | |
| 03:27 | tuxayo | ok let's do that then :) |
| 03:27 | Thanks for your time | |
| 03:29 | mtj | ...and we recommend thats existing installs should upgrade to ES7, on the latest version of supported branches |
| 03:31 | all supported koha versions now require minimum of ES 6.8 - we recommend latest version of ES 7 | |
| 03:33 | tuxayo | ok |
| 03:35 | mtj | ..its just my opinion, but seems like the best approach? |
| 03:37 | tuxayo | Wait, recommending ES 7 while it's the non libre version? Can we write that ES 6 is end of life and that ES 7 isn't libre and then sysadmins will deal with that crappy choice to make? ^^" |
| 03:41 | Sorry gotta go, you can answer here and I will follow up by email. | |
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| 05:30 | mtj | hi tuxayo, hmm... i had forgotten about the ES7 license change :/ |
| 05:33 | so, technically.. koha supports ES6, ES7 and OS1 (opensearch 1.x) | |
| 05:35 | i personally think OS1 is the best choice of the 3, based on its license | |
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| 05:37 | mtj | perhaps we provide license/support info for all ES versions/variants - and let users decide |
| 05:37 | ..but recommend OS1 :p | |
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| 07:06 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:27 | ashimema | morning |
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| 07:28 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 07:29 | fridolin | good mor.eve.ning |
| 07:30 | cait | hello fridolin |
| 07:32 | fridolin | releasssssssssssssse |
| 07:32 | ^^ | |
| 07:32 | I'm jumping on building a demo | |
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| 07:51 | marcelr | o/ |
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| 07:52 | alex_ | Bonjour |
| 07:52 | marcelr | hi alex_ |
| 08:28 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 08:31 | wow, so many cool New features | |
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| 09:28 | Joubu | cait: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ces?veaction=edit |
| 09:28 | cait: can you delete this page? It contains incorrect info | |
| 09:34 | cait | I think we cannot delete pag |
| 09:34 | let me hae a look later | |
| 09:35 | just on break from our user meeting | |
| 09:36 | actually hat doe work, although it shoudln#t | |
| 09:36 | and it won't now since we check email format on prefs, but we use that (using SQL) | |
| 09:36 | not in KohaAdminEmailAddress, but in ReplyTo for us... but it does technically work | |
| 09:37 | Joubu | IIRC it explodes in Koha::Email when we send the email, but I haven't tried |
| 09:37 | ashimema | Interesting.. I'd never thought about adding it that way |
| 09:37 | cait | not anymore I think |
| 09:37 | well we are on 20.11 but already with Koha::Email | |
| 09:37 | Joubu | related to bug 9815 |
| 09:37 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9815 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <<branches.branchemail>> can't contain "The Library" <libraryexample.com> |
| 09:37 | ashimema | might be a nice feature to have a display name option.. never really looked into it myself |
| 09:37 | cait | and we have alays added to branchemail and kohaadminaddress I think |
| 09:38 | (was wrong about the reply to) | |
| 09:38 | yah, but the problem now is you can't enter, not that it won't do it | |
| 09:38 | Joubu | ha |
| 09:40 | should I restore the wiki page then? | |
| 09:41 | ashimema | Well.. the wiki page is wrong at the moment as you can't enter the info.. so I think it's safer deleted for now.. |
| 09:41 | but I wouldn't be against adding a display name option to our email prefs as a feature.. which should get properly documented in the manual and not a work around on the wiki. | |
| 09:42 | Joubu | if it's working internally we should simply adjust the JS check |
| 09:50 | cait | back in meeting, read later |
| 10:36 | mtj | hie #koha, the new packages are pushed |
| 10:37 | 21.11/stable KTD looks happy 🍰 | |
| 10:37 | s/21/22/ | |
| 10:39 | ashimema | mtj++ |
| 10:39 | and thanks for helping my colleague over the weekend mtj 🙂 | |
| 10:39 | mtj | hiya np :) |
| 10:39 | perplexedtheta | Real top work folks, and a big thanks getting that sorted. Aptly is now mirroring happily! <3 |
| 10:40 | mtj | perplexedtheta: i think the broken dbgsym is now removed |
| 10:40 | * ashimema | is tempted to add perplexedtheta to the packaging team retrospectively to learn from you and lend a hand ;P |
| 10:40 | perplexedtheta | Yep - awesome, thanks <3 |
| 10:41 | mtj | ashimema, i think the more the merrier, there is bunch of stuff to do |
| 10:43 | ive made a start at upstreaming some of our pkgs to debian-perl team | |
| 10:43 | ashimema | awesome |
| 10:44 | mtj | ...so thats a worthwhile project for 'the team' :) |
| 10:46 | perhaps our new LTS releases could eventually be upstreamed to debian? | |
| 10:46 | magnuse | mtj++ |
| 10:47 | mtj | thanks magnuse 🍻 |
| 10:47 | ashimema | that would be cool |
| 10:48 | perplexedtheta | mtj: that would be quite the exciting prospect! |
| 10:49 | mtj | hmm, that could be a 5 year commitment, to support until debian o-o-stable.. |
| 10:50 | might be a bit too ambitious | |
| 10:55 | i think the general plan is to use gitlab runners to build pkgs | |
| 10:55 | ashimema | excellent |
| 10:55 | mtj | build docker images |
| 10:56 | Joubu | 5 years is a lot, we have been happy lately to drop support for old versions.. |
| 10:56 | mtj | ..poss. start moving from jenkins to gitlab for test suite stuff? |
| 10:57 | Joubu: yeah, 5 years is a lot | |
| 10:57 | ashimema | I think our LTS cycle seems to want to support for 3.5 years if I remember correctly |
| 10:57 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ning#LTS_Releases | |
| 10:58 | so 5 years is a big commitment beyond what we're already doing | |
| 10:58 | perplexedtheta | Gitlab is something I think we've discussed as being keen to use more of recently internally, too. Happy to learn a new suite |
| 10:58 | * ashimema | also thinks we're already rather stretched for rmaints + qa volunteers |
| 10:58 | Joubu | mtj: opinion on bug 32352? |
| 10:59 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32352 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , xt/check_makefile.t failing on node_modules |
| 11:08 | mtj | Joubu: i think your fix for 32352 look good |
| 11:09 | i cant think of a problem with it :) | |
| 11:09 | i do have a jenkins build to test a tar install somewhere.. | |
| 11:11 | ..it could be useful to test that the tar install, still works as expected | |
| 11:20 | Joubu | mtj: if we are using this method for other xt tests it means that they will fail if run outside of a git repo. Did you get that? |
| 11:20 | Aren't you running some of them sometimes outside of the git repo? | |
| 11:26 | tcohen: "22.11.00: Update history.txt" - it modifies the timestamp for old versions :-( | |
| 11:30 | tcohen: "22.11.00: Update kohastructure.sql" - weird all the changes there | |
| 11:32 | mtj | Joubu: oops, i missed the git dependency on 32352 |
| 11:33 | ..i dont think i run the tests in a non-git situation | |
| 11:36 | i think its probably still ok - its unlikely that it would cause a problem | |
| 11:51 | Joubu: re: "22.11.00: Update kohastructure.sql", the changes seem to make sense | |
| 11:52 | https://mariadb.com/kb/en/sett[…]ons/#column-level | |
| 11:53 | "Character sets and collations can also be specified for columns ... If neither collation nor character set is provided, the table default is used." | |
| 11:54 | it seems that the 'COLLATE utf8mb4_unicode_ci' defs for columns are not required | |
| 11:55 | ...if they are defined for the table | |
| 11:58 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 11:58 | Joubu: the collations at the column level always looked incorrect | |
| 12:06 | * ashimema | see's that as a nice cleanup actually 🙂 |
| 12:06 | mtj | hi tcohen, congrats on the release |
| 12:07 | ashimema | hmm.. as for history.. I'm not sure how we do that these days.. I got lost in the process at the last set of refinements |
| 12:07 | indeed.. congrats tcohen 🙂 | |
| 12:16 | any idea how we go about updating the history on the website too? | |
| 12:17 | tcohen | The process for history.txt is described in Taiga |
| 12:17 | I'm not sure why/how those timestamps got changed | |
| 12:20 | ashimema | mm.. little strange |
| 12:23 | tcohen | maybe a timezone thing? |
| 12:23 | ashimema | mm.. I was wondering that.. |
| 12:23 | but it's meant to all be in unix time utc I believe | |
| 12:24 | perhaps git changed how it interprets timestamps in locales or something? | |
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| 12:26 | tcohen | I've checked no one is missing, just some timestamp changes |
| 12:27 | can anyone help me with the tarball? | |
| 12:27 | no rmaint was available on friday and all I tried failed :-D | |
| 12:30 | oh I see | |
| 12:30 | :-D | |
| 12:30 | I was clearly tired on friday | |
| 12:30 | Joubu | tcohen, ashimema: yes, I was referring to 1504 insertions(+), 1418 deletions(-) |
| 12:31 | but it's coming from the SET comment lines, didn't notice at first glance | |
| 12:33 | ashimema | ? |
| 12:34 | tcohen | Joubu: right |
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| 13:08 | Joubu | rangi[m]: certs on https://lists.katipo.co.nz needs to be renewed |
| 13:15 | cait | just for info: i tried and failed to change the website start page witht he new templates, I emailed wizzyrea for help |
| 13:15 | things seem to have moved around using a new template and I couldn't find the page/post/block again | |
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| 14:38 | Tylathos | Hey, I got a problem after the upgrade on 22.11 . My mainpage of the staff interface is not translate into german. The language is installed, confirmed with koha-translate -l . Also other pages are translated. Any suggestions? |
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| 16:14 | cait | Tylathos: willt ry to check it out tomorrow :( annoying! |
| 16:14 | could you check if another langauge works ok? | |
| 16:16 | Tylathos | en-GB seems to work |
| 16:18 | cait | maybe a good thing... but means I probably made a mistake somewhere |
| 16:18 | any js error by chance? (if you can look in the browser console) | |
| 16:18 | ashimema | we're all human cait |
| 16:18 | 🙂 | |
| 16:19 | cait | ashimema: but we don't need to like it, right? ;) |
| 16:19 | ashimema | flesh is good.. mistakes not so much 😜 |
| 16:19 | cait | especially since I am presenting the new features on Thursday for user meeting and this probably won't be fixed properly until .01 - but first to find the offending string |
| 16:20 | ashimema | talk of .01 already.. I've not even started to look at bugs pushed to master yet for backport |
| 16:20 | cait | i meant becaus translation updates ae only pushed for releases |
| 16:21 | breath :) | |
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| 17:01 | PedroAmorim[m] | hey everyone, if anyone has a couple moments to spare, I'm currently fighting bugzilla trying to do sign-off on multiple patches (5 patches) |
| 17:01 | after following the docs https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ion#Signing_off_2 | |
| 17:02 | i run git so 5 and git bz attach -e xxxxx HEAD~5 but it's always "jumping" into the 6th commit and showing signed-off by Tomas (which is said "wrong" commit) | |
| 17:02 | for reference, this is the bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=30719#c15 | |
| 17:02 | huginn` | 04Bug 30719: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, ASSIGNED , ILL should provide the ability to create batch requests |
| 17:26 | cait | hm also got a report of an error 500 on the about page - if someone coudl check for a package installation 22.11? |
| 17:27 | PedroAmorim[m]: try HEAD~5.. | |
| 17:28 | oh and when you run git so 5 - does that work or is there an error in the endß it won't work if you have untracked changes, you need to stash them first | |
| 17:28 | and with that, I am out :) bye all | |
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| 17:43 | PedroAmorim[m] | cait: wow that was it, I was missing the double dot, no way! I completely missed that! thank you so much |
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| 17:53 | cait[m] | :) |
| 18:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 20:22 | cait[m] | oleonard: around? |
| 20:24 | Following problem: I have installed additional languages de-DE and fr-FR on current master branch with the just updated po files and the layout (header search) is broken | |
| 20:27 | hmm it looks to be working if the language hadn't been installed before | |
| 20:42 | I've filed bug 32356 | |
| 20:42 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32356 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , fr-FR installer dir /kohadevbox/koha/installer/data/mysql/fr-FR already exists. |
| 20:42 | cait[m] | something is up with the translations, but could need some help there |
| 20:49 | https://snipboard.io/7z9UBy.jpg < I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling but still stuck | |
| 20:56 | hm, reinstalling the language kinda worked (removing it first) | |
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