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| 07:49 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:51 | alex_ | Bonjour |
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| 08:31 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen There are several follow-up on 32030 to fix failing tests. However one fix is missing and I am not sure I will have time today to have a look (see last comment). |
| 08:31 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:08 | vfernandes[m] | hi #koha-community:matrix.org |
| 11:10 | cait | hello |
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| 11:15 | vfernandes[m] | can we check the Koha 22.11 (pre) release notes anywhere? |
| 11:15 | cait | yes |
| 11:15 | sec | |
| 11:16 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_22_06_00.md | |
| 11:16 | it looks like it's missing the most recent additions (says last change 3 weeks ago) | |
| 11:16 | ashimema: was this supposed to update automatically? | |
| 11:17 | vfernandes[m]: we've had some bigger additions after the script was last run, are you looking for something specific? | |
| 11:19 | vfernandes[m] | I want to do a presentation with the most important new features of the Koha last versions (21.11, 22.05 and 22.11) |
| 11:20 | cait | for 22.11 the important ones missing are probably ERM module, OIDC authentication and provisioning, item groups and item group holds |
| 11:21 | ashimema | yes |
| 11:21 | it was | |
| 11:21 | seems there's something odd going on | |
| 11:21 | I'll run it in a few minutes | |
| 11:22 | running now | |
| 11:22 | and watching for errors | |
| 11:22 | cait | ashimema++ |
| 11:24 | vfernandes[m] | thanks cait and ashimema |
| 11:31 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 11:32 | oleonard | o/ |
| 11:32 | ashimema | done |
| 11:33 | cait | It includes 11 new features, 323 enhancements, 458 bugfixes. |
| 11:33 | ashimema | huge release |
| 11:34 | cait | It includes 6 new features, 260 enhancements, 363 bugfixes. |
| 11:34 | this is 3 weeks of work now | |
| 11:35 | 5 new, 63 enh and 95 bug fixes | |
| 11:36 | * ashimema | is getting confused about whitespace in notices.. very confused. |
| 11:36 | cait | hmmmm why is NSO almot 40?! |
| 11:36 | NQA I mean | |
| 11:38 | ashimema: can we help? | |
| 11:39 | ashimema | what.. with whitespace issues? |
| 11:39 | I'm just confused | |
| 11:40 | it's my new notices for catalog concerns | |
| 11:40 | they all hit the database with a crap load of whitespace | |
| 11:40 | but the templates look simple and small | |
| 11:40 | >Dear [%- INCLUDE 'patron-title.inc' patron => ticket.reporter -%],<br>... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]LoYTCmKxDmsDLoaBq>) | |
| 11:41 | cait | Not sure then |
| 11:42 | pastebot | "ashimema" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Dear [%- INCLUDE 'patron-title" (62 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/18328 |
| 11:42 | ashimema | paste shows it more clearly |
| 11:42 | template above the -------- | |
| 11:42 | results between the next two ----------- | |
| 11:43 | cait | really odd |
| 11:43 | ashimema | i.e a tonne of blank lines at the tope, a huge whitespace between 'Dear' and the name, 'more blank linkes.. |
| 11:43 | it's really weird.. | |
| 11:43 | and it happens to all the new templates i've put it.. | |
| 11:43 | cait | it's probably the inlcudes |
| 11:43 | ashimema | I have absolutely no idea why |
| 11:43 | cait | at least the second one |
| 11:43 | ashimema | Joubu ^ any ideas |
| 11:43 | cait | it would not be visible on an HTML page, but it's visible in notice templates |
| 11:43 | did you check HTML? | |
| 11:44 | ashimema | yes |
| 11:44 | cait | ah you copied the source? |
| 11:44 | ashimema | yup |
| 11:44 | cait | i bet it's us not using [%- -%] consistently in the template building |
| 11:44 | at lest for biblio-title | |
| 11:44 | ashimema | mm, perhaps |
| 11:45 | but that still doesn't really explain why we get a load of up front space | |
| 11:45 | another little annoyance I just spotted.. our helpers give relative URLs.. which are fine.. but not great in an email context | |
| 11:50 | cait | but easy to fix by adding the opacbaseurl |
| 11:52 | ashimema | not really |
| 11:52 | as the links are constructed inside the include it means adding an option to the include | |
| 11:52 | you can't just add it in the template easily | |
| 11:54 | OK.. fixing up [%- in the includes does help a lot | |
| 11:54 | still a few issues though. | |
| 11:57 | cait | maybe do the fixup on a separate bug |
| 11:59 | ashimema | I should probably put this include fix stuff in another bug ☹️ |
| 12:00 | lol | |
| 12:03 | cait | ;) |
| 12:08 | ashimema | why do my bugs always end up so huge |
| 12:09 | this was meant to be a fairly simple dev for a customer.. a couple of days worth.. | |
| 12:09 | cait | perfectionist? :) |
| 12:09 | ashimema | 322 comments later and it's still going |
| 12:10 | mind you.. bugzilla really doesn't help by adding in a comment for every attachement.. that grows awefully fast for larger patchsets with lots of rebases. | |
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| 12:19 | marcelr | o/ |
| 12:22 | cait | h marcelr :) |
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| 12:41 | * cait | waves at oleonard |
| 12:42 | oleonard | Back after a restart... hopefully ktd will work now... |
| 12:43 | cait | the normal up hasn't been working for me, but it worked with ktd --es6 up |
| 12:45 | tcohen | ktd pull |
| 12:45 | because of the new deps | |
| 12:45 | sorry I didn't announce yesterday | |
| 12:45 | cait | i did the ktd pull - was broken before the big pushes for me already |
| 12:45 | tcohen | ?? |
| 12:45 | cait | I'll get you the error next time I get it |
| 12:46 | tcohen | I missed some of the conversation |
| 12:46 | cait | nope :) it's me, don't worry |
| 12:46 | ashimema | dman |
| 12:46 | we're clashing on bug 32028 cait | |
| 12:46 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32028 minor, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Passed QA , Add page-section to various administration pages (part 2) |
| 12:47 | cait | i put myself as qa contact... |
| 12:47 | ashimema | I was just writing a follow-up |
| 12:47 | cait | ah |
| 12:47 | which page for? | |
| 12:47 | ashimema | smart rules |
| 12:47 | cait | hah :) |
| 12:47 | did you see my last comment there? | |
| 12:47 | ashimema | just about to read it |
| 12:48 | I went to comment and saw you had | |
| 12:49 | cait | I can test your follow-up |
| 12:49 | ashimema | Just writing a quick test plan to say what I changed |
| 12:52 | attaching now | |
| 12:53 | ooh.. | |
| 12:53 | I want to make another change.. | |
| 12:54 | cait | go ahead |
| 12:54 | I'll stare at buttons meanwhile | |
| 12:55 | oleonard | That was my plan... pending ktd up... |
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| 12:58 | ashimema | uploading again now cait |
| 12:58 | marcelr | is the new erm module workable without ebsco api keys or cant you do anything then ? |
| 12:59 | cait | yes, you can use local holdings |
| 12:59 | marcelr | how can you add one? |
| 12:59 | cait | there should be a button to do htat |
| 12:59 | marcelr | i can only search, and that gives 404s only |
| 13:00 | cait | but I haven't looked in a bit |
| 13:00 | are you on the sandbox or on your installation? | |
| 13:00 | ashimema | have you updated your dependancies marcelr.. it came with a bunch of new ones |
| 13:00 | marcelr | own installation |
| 13:00 | ashimema | that made me stumble this mornign as the API's were all silently failing |
| 13:01 | cait | on the left, you should have e-holdings - ebsco and local |
| 13:01 | when you are at local - packages | |
| 13:01 | marcelr | ok ill check did not see warnings in plack-error though |
| 13:01 | cait | btw... not sure i like the design htere being so different to all our other navs *hides* |
| 13:01 | then you go new package | |
| 13:01 | marcelr | i cant even see local packages |
| 13:01 | cait | hm |
| 13:01 | marcelr | i have agreement search |
| 13:02 | can search packages and titles | |
| 13:02 | i will check missing stuff then | |
| 13:02 | cait | go to your system preferences |
| 13:02 | ERMProviders | |
| 13:02 | and we probably might adapt ddefaults if that is the issue | |
| 13:02 | marcelr | File not found : js/vue/dist/main.js at /usr/share/koha/Koha/Template/Plugin/Asset.pm line 84. |
| 13:02 | cait | make sure you check local |
| 13:03 | marcelr | yes it says local |
| 13:03 | i am missing js scripts apparently | |
| 13:05 | cait | maybe for comparison: https://staff-erm.sandboxes.biblibre.eu (k.../k...) |
| 13:05 | ashimema | I thought we'd fixed lots of heading levels |
| 13:05 | I'm seeing issues littered around a lot again today | |
| 13:06 | marcelr | cait: the whole container i do not see it |
| 13:06 | i suspect trouble on dev installs with this erm module | |
| 13:07 | wrong paths etc | |
| 13:09 | cait | i commented today we should check in packages too |
| 13:09 | i remembe we had missing something when adding other modules that made it not show up in packages (the files were missing) | |
| 13:11 | marcelr | yes should be checked (or have been) |
| 13:12 | cait | oleonard: E-Ressource management - the capitalization kinda upsets me |
| 13:12 | is that correct? | |
| 13:13 | tcohen | marcelr: have you yarn build_js? |
| 13:13 | cait | ashimema: on your follow-ups now |
| 13:13 | oleonard | cait: I would say the R should not be capitalized |
| 13:13 | cait | tcohen: is that documented somewhere yet? build_js ? |
| 13:13 | oleonard: my feeling too | |
| 13:13 | but i think I was told it was correct another time | |
| 13:14 | marcelr | tcohen: where do i need it for? hasnt it been built ? |
| 13:17 | oleonard | ashimema: Do you remember a discussion a long time about about using display:table to make it so that tables don't overflow their containers? |
| 13:25 | ashimema | yes |
| 13:25 | I remember | |
| 13:26 | from memory I tried to do a global fix and we found it was too big a change and broke display of a bunch of other things so I think it got reverted.. | |
| 13:26 | I'd love to have it revisisted | |
| 13:26 | it annoyed me no end | |
| 13:27 | oleonard | Yeah... I didn't remember there was a bug, I'll try to hunt it down because I don't remember what the global fix was |
| 13:33 | Joubu | tcohen: you must have pushed the dist file! |
| 13:36 | ashimema | ha, me either.. |
| 13:36 | let me know if you can't find it.. I likely have it in my history somewhere | |
| 13:49 | bug 25242 | |
| 13:49 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, CLOSED FIXED, Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom |
| 13:49 | ashimema | oleonard ^ |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Oh, thank you ashimema |
| 13:50 | ashimema | it was table-layout: fixed |
| 13:50 | cait | bug 32147 is ready for testing |
| 13:50 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32147 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Capitalization: E-Resource management should be E-resource management |
| 13:50 | ashimema | or something along those lines.. rather than display:table |
| 13:51 | oleonard | I added a little follow-up to Bug 32004 |
| 13:51 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32004 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Increase font size in top navigation pull downs |
| 13:54 | ashimema | bug 12580 is still open for the overflowing issues oloenard |
| 13:54 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=12580 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , DataTables overflow their container elements |
| 13:54 | ashimema | linked from the above one |
| 13:54 | 🙂 | |
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| 14:34 | SupportLibrary[m] | Hello. I am writing with the following question. When creating a new template from Authority types, I render the field I assign number 113 for Auth field copied. In the template in field 113 b i am writing the name of the publisher (This template is for publisher Authority record). When i created the template i added it to the bibliographic framework of of my choice. In the framework i created a filed 9 (RLIN), so when i select an |
| 14:35 | already created publisher, its number is automatically filled. Why only the filed from which i select the publisher is locked but not the filed with 9 (RLIN) like it is with Personal name (100)? | |
| 14:37 | The option BiblioAddsAuthorities is set to don't allow! | |
| 14:45 | caroline | SupportLibrary[m], can you share a screenshot? I'm not sure I understand what is going on |
| 14:45 | SupportLibrary[m] | ok |
| 14:45 | caroline | I've also never been able to make publisher authorities work because of the $b. It's like it has to have an $a (it was the case a while back, I haven't tried in a while) |
| 14:49 | SupportLibrary[m] | This is what happens: For tag 260 i made subtag b to be a authority for publisher. In subtag 9(RLIN) the number of the specific authority publisher is shown. When option BiblioAddsAuthorities is set to don't allow, only the subtag b is locked but not subtag 9(RLIN) |
| 14:52 | caroline | Ok I think it was the same problem I had back then... Let me try again... |
| 14:55 | SupportLibrary[m] | The problem is solved. I make subfield 260a the authority and now the subfield 9 (RLIN) is locked |
| 14:55 | Joubu | oleonard: I've used display:table for the DTs in the ERM module and it worked great |
| 14:56 | cait | caroline, oleonard: bug 32147 |
| 14:57 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32147 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Capitalization: E-Resource management should be E-resource management |
| 14:57 | caroline | SupportLibrary[m], ok! Does it solve your problem though? Can you choose an authority and it is copied in 260$b? |
| 14:58 | SupportLibrary[m] | no now it is copied in 260$a |
| 15:00 | caroline | :( Yeah... I think that's the extent of Koha capabilities... |
| 15:00 | Can you add the place name in 113$a and publisher name in 113$b? | |
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| 15:02 | liliputech | hi koha (long time no see) |
| 15:05 | oleonard | Hi liliputech |
| 15:05 | caroline | cait are you looking for a signoff or comments? |
| 15:05 | SupportLibrary[m] | <caroline> "Can you add the place name in 11..." <- May be it is possiible. If 113$a is authority and 113$b is authority which number will be shown in 113$9(RLIN)? |
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| 15:06 | tuxayo-webchat | hi, sorry, can't attend the meeting |
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| 15:08 | cait | both |
| 15:08 | SupportLibrary[m] | In my case take the number of the last selected |
| 15:09 | oleonard | Joke's on tuxayo, we all forgot XD |
| 15:09 | caroline | SupportLibrary[m], I meant in the same authority put place name in $a and publisher name in $b... but I don't think it would work either |
| 15:09 | liliputech | 'kay, meeting postponed? |
| 15:09 | ashimema | lol |
| 15:10 | * ashimema | runs out the door on the school run. |
| 15:10 | SupportLibrary[m] | caroline: I will try tomorrow |
| 15:11 | * liliputech | forgot his schoolbag, going back home @lightspeed |
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| 15:24 | caroline | regarding e-, I found this, which is not the best reference as they don't use any capital letters in their entry headings, but in "Cite this entry", they have it written like E-book https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/e-book |
| 15:28 | cait | i think this is right |
| 15:28 | no capital letters.. only for names like months, days, countries | |
| 15:28 | caroline | I also found the same in wikipedia, but wanted a more reputable source... |
| 15:29 | marcelr | E-mail or e-mail is fine |
| 15:29 | E-Mail is not | |
| 15:29 | cait | https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/German |
| 15:29 | they do use capitals when appropriat | |
| 15:29 | e | |
| 15:29 | caroline | ok! Good to know, I was looking at only common words, like "cat" |
| 15:30 | cait | oc :) |
| 15:31 | caroline | :D |
| 15:31 | I will sign off and we can debate the long form vs abbreviation later? | |
| 15:36 | cait | sure :) |
| 15:37 | caroline | ok maybe I can't sign off... Is it normal that after I enable the syspref, there is nothing in the module? There is no add button, no title https://snipboard.io/pvhrkZ.jpg |
| 15:37 | please ignore the quantity of tabs lol, I'm doing too many things at once | |
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| 15:39 | caroline | ERMModule is enabled and ERMProviders is set to Local, I should be able to add local agreements no? Do I have to rebuild something before? |
| 15:41 | marcelr | caroline: there is still a problem in master |
| 15:41 | i had the same | |
| 15:42 | tomas should push some files still | |
| 15:42 | caroline | ah ok, phew I thought it was only me again... thx marcelr :) |
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| 16:23 | cait | caroline: just fixed the space |
| 16:23 | caroline | +1 ok will check again |
| 16:25 | cait | thx! |
| 16:27 | ashimema | See the message on devel lists Caroline |
| 16:27 | To play with eRM you need to build the js | |
| 16:29 | https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ember/047385.html | |
| 16:29 | We're discussing how to ease this.. | |
| 16:29 | And my opinion is no, Tomas shouldn't push more files | |
| 16:30 | cait | hm but we need them built in the packages, don't we? |
| 16:30 | ashimema | It would end up with a rapidly increasing repository size and conflict resolution fun regularly |
| 16:30 | We do need a clearly documented process though | |
| 16:31 | He was keen to get it pushed for string freeze etc . But we are still working on those little things | |
| 16:41 | caroline | both commands don't work on my environment, unfortunately |
| 16:45 | ashimema | perhaps a `yarn install` first? |
| 16:47 | caroline | It gives me the same error 00h00m00s 0/0: : ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'install' |
| 16:47 | am I supposed to be in a particular directory? | |
| 16:49 | ashimema | hmm |
| 16:49 | pass I'm afraid | |
| 16:50 | caroline | ERM is not in the sandboxes either |
| 16:51 | Sorry cait | |
| 16:51 | oleonard | https://staff-erm.sandboxes.biblibre.eu |
| 16:52 | caroline | can I add a patch to that sandbox? |
| 16:52 | cait | not your fault |
| 16:53 | i think this one is locked and probably a bit outdated | |
| 16:53 | caroline | The option is there but I don't want to break it for everyone |
| 16:53 | cait | have you run the new jsbuild thing? |
| 16:53 | or do we have a general problem? | |
| 16:53 | caroline | I tried but it says there is no such thing |
| 16:53 | it's probably just me | |
| 16:54 | cait | ah ok, probably ont only you |
| 17:07 | * ashimema | is looking into it now |
| 17:07 | ashimema | for me.. i get |
| 17:07 | yarn build_js... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]ohDbshQdvcSAdxAhW>) | |
| 17:08 | now I'm running `yarn install` which should grab webpack for me. | |
| 17:09 | hmm | |
| 17:10 | ok.. not happy here either | |
| 17:13 | are you running in k-t-d caroline? | |
| 17:13 | for me | |
| 17:13 | kshell > kshell | |
| 17:13 | yarn install | |
| 17:13 | caroline | no I have what is called a "vintage" installation |
| 17:13 | ashimema | yarn build_js |
| 17:13 | that does the trick | |
| 17:13 | dev type install? | |
| 17:13 | I use that at times too | |
| 17:14 | for that I get npm/node version issues | |
| 17:15 | caroline | git that I pull every time |
| 17:15 | ashimema | ? |
| 17:16 | caroline | I have a git installation on my computer that was done ages ago and I just pull when I need to update it |
| 17:17 | I didn't install it myself, so I can't say for sure, but maybe by package? I have no idea | |
| 17:19 | I wouldn't spend time on this if it works for you | |
| 17:20 | I'll just not test ERM for now and wait until it is completely integrated | |
| 17:24 | ashimema | Will look more tomorrow |
| 17:24 | Runnin around after kids now | |
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| 17:45 | tcohen | hi all |
| 17:45 | gentle reminder: tomorrow is string freeze | |
| 17:45 | please SO/QA all the things that touch strings | |
| 17:45 | please special attention to those page-section patches, that will be a pain to rebase later | |
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| 18:19 | ashimema | This release is properly creeping up in me |
| 18:19 | Will spend some hours tonight trying to receive any last page-section bugs | |
| 18:20 | I'm also kinda keen to get the tab Vs pills one done.. the majority case (where it's not embedded inside another page-section of filedset) seems agreed upon.. | |
| 18:20 | But not coded | |
| 18:21 | The nested cases still need a little thought... I'll try to look at that too | |
| 18:21 | oleonard | I think I have the patch mostly ready |
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| 18:28 | cait[m] | hello |
| 19:03 | ashimema | nice |
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| 22:52 | cait | we missed the election meeting.. and we only got 11 days left... |
| 22:55 | davidnind[m] | oh no! I haven't read back through the yet today.. |
| 22:56 | cait | checked the logs, it looks like it was postponed, maybe missing the urgency |
| 22:59 | davidnind[m] | should I recreate for next week at the same time, or leave to tcohen to do? (cutting it fine before the release....) |
| 22:59 | cait | next week might be our best pick |
| 23:00 | meaning i have no better idea - and we are also still missing some of the more important roles | |
| 23:02 | davidnind[m] | Ok, I'll finish what I'm doing and 1) add for next week 2) send an email to the general and development mailing lists with a reminder about the roles. The release manager can change to suit if needed. |
| 23:02 | cait | you are awesome :) |
| 23:03 | davidnind[m] | sometimes... 😄 |
| 23:03 | cait | oftentimes |
| 23:19 | oleonard++ davidnind++ ashimema++ | |
| 23:35 | davidnind[m] | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 9 November 2022 |
| 23:35 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Nov 9 23:35:00 2022 UTC. The chair is davidnind[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 23:35 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 23:35 | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_9_november_2022' | |
| 23:35 | davidnind[m] | #info Agenda link: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_9_November_2022 |
| 23:35 | #info The meeting was not held, so is postponed for a week at the same time | |
| 23:35 | #info The meeting needs to be held before the 22.11 release so that voting can take place for 23.05 roles | |
| 23:35 | #topic Next meeting | |
| 23:36 | #info Next meeting: 16 November 2022, 15:00 UTC | |
| 23:36 | #endmeeting | |
| 23:36 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Nov 9 23:36:14 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 23:36 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-11-09-23.35.html | |
| 23:36 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-11-09-23.35.txt | |
| 23:36 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]09-23.35.log.html | |
| 23:40 | cait | Am I stil the only person where the QA script kills patches? I end up with the files unstaged after running it |
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