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08:28 | ashimema | morning |
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09:26 | ashimema | hmm... |
09:27 | the more I look at all these staff client UI fixes.. the more little things I uncover that bug me.. | |
09:27 | it's wack-a-mole.. I SO/QA one bug and open another two in it's place. | |
09:28 | cait | your senses are sharpened now |
09:28 | hope to join you soon | |
09:28 | 2 more mails or so :( | |
09:28 | ashimema | indeed |
09:28 | woop, woop | |
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09:33 | marcelr | ashimema: it is the Koha game: solve one bug, find two new ones :) |
09:34 | cait | it's true |
09:34 | Joubu | nav menu on the left, syspref page, I am seeing: https://snipboard.io/Q3wHt6.jpg |
09:35 | Is that expected that the "subitems" are not indented to the right? | |
09:35 | marcelr | Joubu probably not |
09:35 | Joubu | they are actually more towards the left |
09:36 | cait | file it :) |
09:36 | Joubu | rebasing the erm branch, and it looks very bad: https://snipboard.io/zL7mMO.jpg |
09:36 | marcelr | Joubu++ |
09:37 | Joubu | what is "page-section"? |
09:37 | cait | hm yes, that looks very odd |
09:37 | page-section class gives a white background | |
09:37 | Joubu | is that supposed to replace the fieldset borders? |
09:37 | cait | a card-kinda layout? Ashimema can explain |
09:37 | but yours looks like there might also be a markup error | |
09:37 | Joubu | yes, but that's for something else |
09:38 | https://snipboard.io/nTBRAh.jpg | |
09:38 | cait | i think the white background der is right |
09:38 | der = there | |
09:38 | Joubu | vs https://snipboard.io/MNZkpT.jpg |
09:38 | marcelr | deero |
09:39 | cait | but there are small glitches for the File.: and the buttons at the bottom are stuck together |
09:39 | Joubu | before there were too many border, now there are no more |
09:39 | cait | yes |
09:39 | but the contrast between background and the white is more visible for me usually than on your screenshot now | |
09:39 | might be my bad screen again | |
09:40 | ashimema | sorry.. was reading back |
09:40 | hmm.. nested form fieldsets.. I've not really come across one of those yet in the new UI.. | |
09:41 | Joubu | yes, that's my problem I think |
09:41 | ashimema | as for your left nav stuff I think that's a different thing.. it should probably take the same form as the other sidebar-menu stuff.. |
09:41 | like circ-menu.inc | |
09:41 | page-section is basically a very minimal white box to denote a content section of a page | |
09:42 | but it does not look incredibly similar to fieldset too | |
09:42 | Joubu | left bar: I don't think it's like circ. All the 'li' are links. |
09:42 | ashimema | I was just considering this actually.. for me one of the big difference's between the current fieldset and the previous one (and the page-section of now).. is that the 'legend' is inside the box |
09:42 | Joubu | on circ, entries are grouped |
09:43 | ashimema | before it was part of the border.. and for page section we are a bit inconsistent.. but the main heading certainly started outside the box |
09:44 | * ashimema | might be thinking of tools or cataloging |
09:52 | ashimema | oh.. I missed your first screenshot Joubu.. I see what you mean |
09:53 | subitems indentation is wrong.. another bug | |
11:01 | cait | the acq order form needs some serious work too - broken item form |
11:02 | inc ase noone got to that one yet :) | |
11:06 | * ashimema | has decided picking colors is bloody hard ;P |
11:07 | ashimema | bug 31753 |
11:07 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Dialog boxes inside of modals don't seem wide enough |
11:19 | cait | oook, got 40 minutes for QA now... *dives in* |
11:19 | someon a suggestion? | |
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11:28 | cait | marcelr++ thx |
11:30 | * ashimema | has just been working down https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]y=tree&rankdir=LR |
11:31 | cait | I picked one, set the QA contact |
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11:39 | tcohen | hola #koha |
11:42 | ashimema | I'm off for a swim.. see you soon KOha |
11:43 | tcohen | enjoy ashimema ! |
11:44 | cait | oooh |
11:44 | tcohen | ashimema: I'm afraid you cannot leave, is QA day |
11:49 | cait | ah no lukeg either |
11:50 | Joubu | is it then correct to use page-section for forms? |
11:50 | I am getting this layout: https://snipboard.io/vPyegC.jpg | |
11:52 | cait | i think so |
11:52 | tcohen | cait: lukeg gets in later (in 2 hours) |
11:52 | cait | we have it on the patron form too |
11:53 | ah ok | |
11:53 | tcohen | that looks correct Joubu |
11:54 | Joubu | cait: I don't see page-section on memberentry |
11:54 | cait | hm maybe some other element has the same effect then? |
11:54 | i was going by the looks | |
11:54 | Joubu | https://snipboard.io/5UpWCR.jpg - buttons are misplaced btw |
11:55 | ashimema | Filedset has very similar styling |
11:56 | Swim time, bbiab | |
11:57 | Joubu | then should I pick fieldset? :) |
11:57 | cait | we need to start a document tow rite all this up |
11:58 | I have another one: page sub-headings: inside page-section or above? | |
11:59 | ok, looks like outside for h1... but h2 inside? | |
12:00 | shoudl we just start a frama and take notes as we go? | |
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12:42 | ashimema | and this is why I was really keen to have a style guide front and centre for this work.. butt that went down like a lead baloon |
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12:55 | cait | well, we can moan... or we can start one :) |
12:55 | ashimema | yes |
12:55 | we should start one | |
12:56 | should we use the Wiki? | |
12:56 | along similar lines to the codeing guidelines? | |
12:56 | cait | I was thining maybe use a framapad to have a quick start and move wiki as a second step? |
12:56 | but yes, i think siilar to guidelines, but spearate page for sure | |
12:56 | ashimema | draft it out between us then vote it in at a meeting? |
12:56 | sure.. if frama is easier for you 🙂 | |
12:56 | cait | coding guidelines and style guidelines maybe? |
12:56 | ashimema | lets go with that |
12:57 | perfect.. only reason I suggested wiki was it lends itself to easily formatted code snippets | |
12:57 | but we can do that as a second step.. first step really is to get a bunch of questions listed and then answer them between us.. | |
12:57 | cait | hm it's a valid point |
12:57 | let's try wiki then | |
12:57 | ashimema | like where different heading levels should be used, inside/outside page-section.. when page-section should be used vs fieldset.. |
12:57 | etc, etc | |
12:58 | cait | but we can not name it draft nwo and rename later... right? |
12:58 | * ashimema | is actually a massive fan of markdown for this sort of stuff.. but hey ;) |
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12:59 | ashimema | lets stick to a frama for now.. wiki is just about to move too so it makes sense to push it into the wiki as soon as that move has happened rather than risk delaying that move because we're suddently making te wiki very activ |
12:59 | cait | ok, because I don't remember how to start a ne page on the wiki right now |
12:59 | https://annuel.framapad.org/p/[…]-styleguide-draft | |
13:01 | tcohen | ashimema: it should happen next week |
13:01 | ashimema | awesome |
13:04 | cait | you got to start writing too :) |
13:05 | ashimema | Will do momentarily.. just rebasing something 😜 |
13:19 | cait | new bug incoming: Bug 31910 - Article request form is misaligned/misformatted |
13:20 | magnuse_ | cait++ ashimema++ |
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13:51 | ashimema | talking alerts cait.. I've seen the at the top, I've seen them between the toolbar and the heading.. I've seen them below the heading |
13:52 | cait | yeah |
13:52 | since we have toolbar h1 now | |
13:52 | i believe right under is teh spot i prefer | |
13:52 | so it sits in a good view point right above the form/main content | |
13:54 | I am suggesting... we just need to agree on something consistent, that woudl be nice | |
13:55 | ashimema | agreed |
13:55 | * ashimema | is trying to visualise.. |
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13:55 | ashimema | I think I was in the 'above everything' camp.. so it's the first thing your drawn to |
13:55 | but I'm now wondering | |
13:56 | cait | I usually like it better if the alert and what it applies to are closer together |
13:58 | question: item search result list | |
13:59 | select visible roews and Edit search button | |
13:59 | shoudl they be within page-section or outside? | |
13:59 | my feeling is that select visible... belongs to the table... so inside, edit search not sure | |
14:05 | * cait | summons oleonard |
14:20 | lukeg | cait++ |
14:26 | cait | lukeg: did you see my question about item search? |
14:26 | on here - not on bug yet | |
14:34 | lukeg | cait: I did not |
14:35 | cait | I was wondering if on item searrch the select visible rows links and Edit search shoudl not be inside the page-section |
14:35 | we ar trying to figure out some guidelines too: https://annuel.framapad.org/p/[…]-styleguide-draft | |
14:36 | lukeg: ^^ | |
14:38 | lukeg | Hmm, good question, Maybe everything except the h1 should be in the page section? |
14:38 | ashimema | yuk |
14:39 | lukeg | Now I have to go look at some other pages |
14:39 | cait | been doing that yes |
14:39 | ashimema | that page is in need of cleanup in general I feel |
14:39 | cait | i thk the h1 outside is consistent now, so stuck that on the guidelines |
14:39 | lukeg | ashimema: item search page? |
14:39 | cait | ... and should edit search be yelllow? |
14:40 | ashimema | I would say it should be more similar to the catalog search results page.. |
14:40 | cait | it's a quite different technique used there compared to other pages i think |
14:41 | i sometimes bugs me I can't link to a search, I'd love that | |
14:41 | ashimema | select stuff should be in a, preferably floating, toolbar |
14:41 | for example | |
14:41 | cait | oh right |
14:41 | I'll file that - it came up last week at our wrkshop too (floating tool bar for item search) | |
14:41 | lukeg | +1 floating toolbar |
14:42 | ashimema | there should also be a results count and we should display the search terms somewhere |
14:42 | cait | I feel after this redesign work I'll never look at Koha the same |
14:43 | Bug 31915 - Add floating toolbar to item search | |
14:43 | ashimema | doesn't appear to be paging either... |
14:44 | in fact.. it's generally just really inconsistent with everywhere else.. lol | |
14:44 | lukeg | It does |
14:44 | ashimema | nice one cait |
14:44 | cait | it might be the oldest implementation for server side stuff |
14:44 | ashimema | could be |
14:44 | cait | so it just might need to catch up |
14:44 | and it does paging for me? | |
14:44 | the usual datatables stuff at the top of the table | |
14:45 | ashimema | oh.. so it does |
14:45 | ah.. yes.. | |
14:45 | cait | I think that<#s the issue right? |
14:45 | ashimema | it's dt style rather than search results style.. |
14:45 | cait | it's a datatable... |
14:45 | yeah | |
14:45 | ashimema | wonder if we aught to make the cat search results look more consistent with dt style.. or the other way around.. |
14:45 | cait | they both work vrey differently |
14:45 | ashimema | they're both really just big tables of stuff.. so paging that's consistent looking would be good |
14:46 | cait | one being search engine based and the other not... maybe some differences are ok |
14:46 | but for now... inside our outside page section? | |
14:46 | i know we want a floating header ultimately.. but? | |
14:46 | ashimema | they might work differently behind the scenes.. but they'd be trivial to style the same 😜 |
14:47 | outside if my opinion.. | |
14:47 | cait | heh I was inside |
14:47 | ashimema | leaving the door open for the toolbar next |
14:47 | cait | lukeg: you are tie breaker |
14:48 | lukeg | oh jeeze :) |
14:48 | cait | if it's too stressful I can switch sides |
14:48 | i think ashimema kinda persuaded me | |
14:48 | lukeg | Comparing it to catalog search, it seems like it should be outside of page-section |
14:49 | cait | PQA then :) moving onto next |
14:50 | hm that seems to have been the last page-section one in QA queue | |
14:50 | ashimema | 🙂 |
14:50 | cait | ashimema: are you actively working on 31886? |
14:51 | ah, waiting for a follow-up | |
14:51 | lukeg | I was working on 31886 |
14:51 | ashimema | oh... |
14:51 | I didn't mean to set myself for QA there.. I signed it off 🙂 | |
14:51 | lukeg is doing a small followup though.. | |
14:51 | but onces that's there I reckon it's a PQA if you want it 😛 | |
14:52 | lukeg | So should it be: |
14:52 | cait | yeah, i moved to fqa for now - nothing personal :) |
14:52 | just so i don't keep running into that one until it's ready | |
14:52 | lukeg | Serials - Features |
14:52 | I18N - Global | |
14:52 | ? | |
14:52 | cait | hm? |
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14:53 | ashimema | works for me |
14:53 | lukeg | cool, revised patch incoming |
14:53 | ashimema | they're sorta meaningless at the moment really.. the prefs don't really lend themselves to being groups.. hence the loose suggestions.. but it looks better than having the same thing twice 😜 |
14:54 | lukeg | agreed |
14:54 | ashimema | shall I open another bug for converting the 'You search for' away from being a heading? |
14:54 | cait | yes? |
14:54 | ashimema | okies |
14:54 | cait | if you wonder about filing a bug... isn't the answer always yes? |
14:54 | :) | |
14:55 | ashimema | it is unless someone decides to just do it inline 😛 |
14:55 | cait | btw... this is slightly upsetting me: cataloguing/cataloging-home |
14:56 | but... it makes sense as we agreed to use AE for new stuff ... and gah. | |
14:58 | inconsistencies now, whereever we look! :) | |
14:59 | lukeg | Bug 31886 back in the NQA queue, I think tcohen can push it straight away if one of y'all can QA |
14:59 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31886 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Signed Off , No side menu when searching for syspref |
15:00 | cait | already applied here :) |
15:02 | did we file about the wrong sidebar indentation on sstem preferences? | |
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15:04 | cait | ashimema: I am sticking your sign-off line to bug 31886 |
15:04 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31886 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Signed Off , No side menu when searching for syspref |
15:06 | ShaneSammons[m] | Is there a character limit or something for the DAMAGED authorized values? I added some, but when I apply them on edit item, they don't save |
15:07 | reiveune | bye |
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15:08 | Joubu | tcohen: 31154 - only the last 2 patches are needed |
15:08 | ShaneSammons[m] | Is this still IRC on the backend? I am using the website for now, going thorugh element and matrix |
15:10 | Joubu | ERM sandbox updated with the rebased branch and a couple of new enhancements ;) |
15:11 | ashimema | thanks cait |
15:11 | and yes cait.. it bugs me having the mix of AE and BE.. i was going to handle it with the migration of controllers serverside.. it's a big job though ☹️ | |
15:12 | and Shame Sammons we are indeed on a bridged matrix channel.. | |
15:12 | you can use matrix features and other element/web users will see them.. but they get down converted for the IRC folk I believe... | |
15:12 | ShaneS: ^ | |
15:12 | nice one Joubu! | |
15:13 | nice one Pedro (whose perhaps not on here right now?) | |
15:13 | ShaneS[m] | Okay, I just see the same list of "People" I am used to from IRC, and just wanted to check that IRC still existed :) |
15:14 | ashimema | yup |
15:14 | Joubu | PedroAmorimpamorim[m]++ |
15:14 | ashimema | 🙂 |
15:15 | cait | ShaneS[m]: it's limited to numbers |
15:15 | for the codes | |
15:15 | same for Not for loan and some others, if you stick to numbers, it will work | |
15:16 | Joubu | vendors list: https://snipboard.io/FzH759.jpg |
15:16 | this looks bad, right? | |
15:16 | ShaneS[m] | Thank you...I used letters...and didn't see a note here: https://koha-community.org/man[…]authorized-values I guess I could have checked the DB schema but I can't remember where that lovely field listing / mind mapping type view is/was |
15:17 | ashimema | terrible Joubu |
15:17 | ShaneS[m] | Let me switch to # |
15:18 | cait | ShaneS[m]: schema.koha-community.org |
15:18 | ashimema | it's stuff like that I requested the page-section stuff for Joubu.. |
15:18 | hence the huge number of bugs now adding page-section classes or divs | |
15:19 | Joubu | bug 31918 - not really inspired for suggestions.. |
15:19 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31918 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , vendor list is not displayed nicely |
15:19 | ashimema | loads already linked to bug 31757 Joubu |
15:19 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add 'page-section' where it's missing |
15:20 | * ashimema | roles up sleeves and considers working through acq |
15:21 | cait | get me the patches for the missing page-sections :) |
15:21 | already have all the data set up | |
15:22 | ashimema | is there already a bug for acqui-home? |
15:22 | I can't see one | |
15:22 | cait | yep |
15:22 | look for acq start | |
15:22 | i just qa'd it earlier | |
15:23 | ashimema | bug 31830 |
15:23 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31830 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Pushed to master , Add page-section to budgets and funds table on acq start page (acq) |
15:23 | Joubu | when I am on acqui-home.pl, the nav menu is showing the item hovered by the pointer with a nice green label on the left of the element, and changing its background. However the behaviour in the "More" dropdown menu is to simply underline the selected items |
15:23 | feels inconsistent | |
15:23 | just me or... should I open a bug report? Has it been discussed already? | |
15:24 | cait | i don't think it has been discussed, but i'd like a colored background highlight instead of the underline |
15:24 | please file :) | |
15:24 | ashimema | lol.. I should have pulled |
15:24 | now I see a better acq home | |
15:25 | cait | ashimema: i went through the acq pages - there should be bugs for all of them (i hope) |
15:27 | not patche sfor all yet I think | |
15:29 | Joubu | bug 31919 |
15:29 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31919 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Hovered items in "More" should change background color |
15:29 | ashimema | hmm.. |
15:29 | that vendors list page is harder than I first thought.. | |
15:35 | tcohen | bbl |
15:40 | Joubu | new order page: |
15:40 | cait | filed already ;) |
15:40 | at least if you mean the item form or several other things | |
15:40 | Joubu | 1. https://snipboard.io/2k6ImK.jpg - isn't supposed to be aligned? |
15:40 | 2. https://snipboard.io/c8AEjz.jpg - stat 2 misaligned? | |
15:41 | 1 and 2 reported? | |
15:41 | cait | yes, looking for it, sec |
15:41 | bug 31819 | |
15:41 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31819 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Formatting of item form in acq when ordering is broken |
15:41 | cait | bug 31826 |
15:41 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31826 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add page-section to item form on order receive page (acq) |
15:41 | cait | i threw the stats into the first bug |
15:42 | sorry, it's only the first bug actually, both | |
15:42 | Joubu | https://snipboard.io/BF20lp.jpg - new vendor appearing there ok? |
15:44 | cait | yes, that was a last version's change |
15:44 | it's intentional, not related to the new design | |
15:44 | Joubu | ok |
15:44 | weird | |
15:44 | cait | oleonard added the toolbar to each entry |
15:44 | Joubu | the "clear date" icon is now green, expected? |
15:45 | cait | I'd say so |
15:45 | Joubu | sorry, I lost a bit of history lately :D |
15:45 | cait | that's ok :) |
15:45 | bug 28082 | |
15:45 | Joubu | hummm "delete vendor" has no confirmation alert! |
15:45 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28082 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Add acquisitions toolbar to vendors on vendor search page |
15:45 | cait | bug |
15:45 | Joubu | ho, first has, but it does not care about the answer, I clicked "NO"! |
15:45 | cait | haven't seen the 'delete vendor' one filed |
15:46 | eww | |
15:47 | I got to leave here (in the office today) - bbl, but have a nice weekend all just in case! | |
15:48 | Joubu | bug 31921 |
15:48 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31921 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No confirmation alert when deleting a vendor |
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15:50 | Joubu | tcohen: what's the selenium failure you asked me to look at earlier today? |
15:55 | isn't this "washed green" ugly? https://snipboard.io/Nnab3I.jpg | |
16:03 | lukeg | Joubu: IMHO, yes |
16:03 | ashimema | ha.. and that's the slightly "improved" one |
16:05 | see bug 31753 for a comparison of options so far tried | |
16:05 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Dialog boxes inside of modals don't seem wide enough |
16:06 | ashimema | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ent.cgi?id=142328 |
16:06 | in particular | |
16:06 | Joubu | no color? :D |
16:07 | ashimema | lol |
16:07 | I like having header/footer visually distinct | |
16:07 | I don't like the opac modals where we keep them the same colour as the rest of the modal personally.. | |
16:08 | but finding the right green is ... hard | |
16:09 | Joubu | We shouldn't need to find one, but use one that has been choosen when they discuss the new design |
16:09 | ashimema | and you think they did that 😜 |
16:09 | that is perhaps the far left option | |
16:09 | but it also had complaints about looking 'swampy' | |
16:10 | Joubu | IIRC there was a palette of color somewhere |
16:10 | ashimema | must admit.. the original has kinda grown on me |
16:10 | there was.. but it didn't include this color 😜 | |
16:10 | or rather.. this element | |
16:10 | lukeg | The original as in pre-redesign? |
16:11 | ashimema | nope.. that's post re-design still |
16:11 | lukeg | hehe, ok |
16:11 | ashimema | the three options in that above linked screenshot come from that bug.. the before, middle and after follow-up |
16:12 | I asked for input, but didn't block the other fixes in the bug.. tomas pushed with my followup | |
16:12 | I'm more than happy for people to have another go ;P.. or to restore the pre patch fix.. it's easier now that oleonard made it a variable | |
16:15 | just remember when you do play you need so consider title and link texts for contrast.. | |
16:15 | Joubu | how do I modify the variable from the browser's console? |
16:15 | ashimema | it's what I was scratching my head over this morning. |
16:16 | er.. variables get compiled.. assuming you mean the css stuff I was talking about.. | |
16:16 | Joubu | yes, the background-color-modal |
16:16 | ashimema | just just edit the css rule directly in the browser.. then much with the variable to hit all cases for submission |
16:16 | Joubu | I don't see the background-color css rule |
16:16 | ashimema | .modal-content { |
16:16 | background-color: rgb(211, 223, 204); | |
16:16 | background-color: | |
16:17 | Joubu | ha! I was on .modal-header |
16:18 | ashimema | gotta go cook.. biab |
16:19 | Joubu | gotta go drink a beer, have a great weekend #koha! |
16:30 | lukeg | cheers :) |
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16:31 | cait | back |
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17:16 | caroline | cait, your libraries aren't up to 21.11 yet right? |
17:51 | cait | not yet no |
17:51 | might jump to 22.11 directly | |
17:51 | are you having any trouble? | |
17:54 | caroline | not yet, but I'm dreading bug 24387 so I was wondering if you had had to correct your stuff and if so how |
17:55 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Rename News tool |
17:55 | caroline | I'm trying to prevent having to do it manually since we have ~60 instances |
18:01 | Anyway, once I determine what I'll do, I'll share it | |
18:02 | ashimema | We should work together on fixes.. there's never enough time for everything though |
18:02 | What not ask your dev team to help squash the issue and work through it with them..then submit it up caroline | |
18:03 | caroline | My colleague will help me definitely, I still have to determine what needs to be done |
18:12 | philor_ | is there an easy way to get to the revision before a patch from a particular bug landed? |
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19:32 | cait | sorry caroline - getting lat ehere, i got distracted |
19:32 | caroline | no worries |
19:32 | cait | just made some fresh tea.. so I might at least finish reading today's bug mail |
19:33 | philor: can you explain a bit more? I am not sure what you mean | |
19:34 | philor | cait: I found a workable solution, if not elegant, but what I meant was "I'm pretty sure bug 30280 broke something, but I want to locally check out the revision just before it landed, to make sure it was working then and broken as soon as it landed" |
19:34 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30280 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frank.hansen, Pushed to master , Support authority records with common subject headings from different thesaurus |
19:36 | philor | which it was, so the bug is in your bug mail :) |
19:39 | cait | oh no... |
19:39 | philor | so many twisty paths through linking |
19:40 | I was trying to file the one I know will exist, about AutoCreateAuthorities creating duplicates because it only creates LCSH records, when I discovered that without linking working, it can't yet be broken | |
19:43 | hmm, or maybe linking is only broken on Zebra, and Elasticsearch+AutoCreateAuthorities does create infinite duplicates? | |
19:44 | cait | sorry, I don't know |
19:44 | i tested that one and it seeme dto make things stricter but correct in terms of standard and MARC | |
19:45 | * philor | tries a ByWater sandbox for elastic |
19:46 | philor | someday, I really need to figure out why I can't make it work locally |
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20:16 | philor | not sure what made me think the ByWater sandboxes default to Elasticsearch, though |
20:18 | caroline | philor, I think they have both and you can just change the syspref |
20:24 | ok so trying to figure out what the dbrev for bug 24387 does... I have an instance with 4 'OpacMainUserBlock' news, two fr-CA and two in en. After the update, I have 6, four 'default' and two 'fr-CA' | |
20:24 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Rename News tool |
20:25 | caroline | it looks like it doubled the fr-CA ones, but the en ones were just changed to default |
20:29 | I think the default was added because the preview didn't work otherwise... Is it necessary other than that? | |
20:49 | lukeg | caroline: Ive seen that same problem fairly often |
20:50 | caroline: do you know where I can find a list of installable language packs for Koha? | |
20:50 | caroline | lukeg, oh did you have problems when updating too? I thought it was only installs with multiple languages that had problems |
20:51 | lukeg | i know I can run koha-translate --list, but that just gives me the codes and I can't always determine the language from the code |
20:52 | caroline | lukeg, not sure... I would probably check on the translation site https://translate.koha-communi[…]g/projects/22.05/ |
20:52 | lukeg | Ive seen that problem, and it is when we upgrade and their are multiple language packs installed. I'll end up with a bunch of extra OPACMainUserBlocks, OPACHeaders, OPACCredits, etc.. |
20:53 | caroline | yep, that is the exact problem I'm trying to avoid! |
20:54 | I'm trying to see if there is something I can do *automatically* either before or after the upgrade to avoid having manual changes to do | |
20:54 | lukeg | Yea, it is a pain. And I'm pretty sure you are looking at the right DB update. There is a lot in that one and I don't understand all of it |
20:55 | caroline | I wonder if we just remove the creation of the default if it will affect anything. I'm not sure what the default is for. You either have your OPAC in one language or the other |
20:55 | Maybe if you want something to appear on both, like an image with no text, but in the case of the upgrade, you couldn't have that before | |
20:56 | so I don't think it makes sense to create a default... | |
20:56 | I'm still thinking about it | |
20:58 | lukeg | I almost exclusively use the default, but that is because we have so many partners without additional language packs installed |
21:00 | caroline | ok so for unilingual installations, would you need the default? Or would english only be ok too? |
21:03 | lukeg | I think English would be fine too, but since everything just defaults to Default, I leave it there. |
21:03 | Defaults to default... ha | |
21:04 | But I am thinking there are other reasons to have default, maybe a smarter developer than I can chime in on that... | |
21:05 | caroline | For the new content, you can use default, but for the upgrade from the news I think en would be fine |
21:05 | It's really just the upgrade that is problematic... The feature itself is fine | |
21:12 | I added a comment to bug 24387 with my thoughts... I will talk with my colleague next week and see what we can do and I will try to remember to share it | |
21:12 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Rename News tool |
21:38 | tuxayo | hi koha :) |
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