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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:04 | mtj | hum, i thik ./t/lib/QA/TemplateFilters.pm needs to be patched to handle 'trim' filter |
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| 00:36 | mtj | tcohen: i made a fix - bug 31883 ^ |
| 00:36 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31883 critical, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters missing built-in TT filter "trim" causes false warnings |
| 02:16 | dcook | Hmm looks like Bugzilla might be struggling... |
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| 02:48 | afperth | hi there, we have been using KOHA since 2006 and the main box situated in Canberra alliance francaise de Perth has broken down. we need to access our data and will need a my cloud address to be able to retrieve it without the vblack box please. our email address is Receptionafperth.com.au |
| 02:53 | mtj | hi afperth, do you host your own koha? or have someone else do that? |
| 02:54 | aah, koha is located and admined by AF canberra | |
| 02:57 | afperth: have you tried contacting whoever admins your koha system? | |
| 03:18 | afperth | Good morning, we have tried contacting canberra and they said that the black box is broken and that we can't access the server anymore ;-( I am trying to find a way to access it whithout this box?! |
| 03:45 | can you help us please? | |
| 03:48 | or is there any way that you could send us by email all our Perth data recoded (7000 items ) on an excel documents so we can import it somewhere else? | |
| 03:53 | mtj | hi afperth, i can try to help |
| 03:56 | afperth: i sent you a message | |
| 04:00 | afperth: its unlikely that someone here can send you your data, as no one has access to that system | |
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| 04:00 | mtj | but someone may be able to help the AF to get access to the system (and data) |
| 04:01 | (i also have to head out in 30 mins too) | |
| 04:02 | afperth | how can we access it? without the black box? is there an adress? |
| 04:02 | mtj | afperth: at this stage, you know more about your system than we do |
| 04:02 | afperth | my phone does not allow me to call outside Australia! |
| 04:03 | is there someone I could contact? | |
| 04:04 | mtj | you need to find out the contact person for your system |
| 04:05 | afperth | the problem is the contact has changed so many times!! |
| 04:07 | mtj | hmm, that specific problem we cant help you with |
| 04:11 | afperth: i would send a group email within AF, asking for help and information | |
| 04:12 | afperth | every other alliance have given up and starting recording individual items on another system unfortunately! |
| 04:15 | mtj | aah ok |
| 04:17 | wel... if the system is physically located in canberra, try getting someone in canberra to help | |
| 04:18 | AF canberra probably employ someone to admin their computer systems | |
| 04:19 | try getting some advice from them ^ | |
| 04:19 | ask them to access this support channel for help | |
| 04:22 | afperth: hokay, i need to go now :0) | |
| 04:22 | afperth | they used to pay someone but now they don't want to spend anymore money ans also the black box is broken anyway! so nobody can access anything anymore |
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| 06:00 | dcook | @bug 31732 |
| 06:00 | Bah.. | |
| 06:01 | afperth: Are you still around? | |
| 06:01 | huginn` | dcook: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 06:02 | dcook | @later tell afperth I work over at Prosentient Systems. We could help look into this for you. |
| 06:02 | huginn` | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:03 | dcook | I've been meaning to get in touch with Alliance francaise personally so no time like the present.. |
| 06:03 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:05 | fridolin | h |
| 06:05 | ah bugzilla is busy ? | |
| 06:05 | https://bugs.koha-community.org/ | |
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| 06:14 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:17 | fridolin | ahhh back Bug 31810 |
| 06:17 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31810 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Place hold button should be yellow |
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| 06:40 | alex_ | Bonjour |
| 06:41 | marcelr | o/ |
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| 07:22 | cait | good morning #koha! |
| 07:25 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 07:38 | cait | hello |
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| 07:58 | ashimema | Morning |
| 08:05 | marcelr | hi ashimema |
| 08:14 | whats happening with attaching bugs to Bugzilla ? | |
| 08:14 | codec errors etc | |
| 08:15 | UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xa0' in position 361: ordinal not in range(128) | |
| 08:15 | ashimema | humm.. |
| 08:15 | I hadn't noticed yet | |
| 08:15 | marcelr | try git bz attach |
| 08:20 | fridolin | a small issue but fix very useful Bug 31887 |
| 08:20 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31887 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Search on MARC field does not work in Elasticsearch mappings table |
| 08:20 | fridolin | for Elasticers ;) |
| 08:21 | ashimema | works OK for me marcelr |
| 09:02 | marcelr | thx ashimema i saw that davidnind reported the problem too |
| 09:02 | so there must be something? | |
| 09:03 | davidnind[m] | I'm fine signing off other bugs, so maybe something with that specific bug |
| 09:03 | marcelr | ok |
| 09:04 | after i tried that particular one, i had issue with other patches too | |
| 09:04 | but i refreshed the container now | |
| 09:04 | will try again | |
| 09:05 | yeah same issue again | |
| 09:05 | davidnind[m] | I did a git pull for KTD, and a docker-compose pull as well, but it made no difference - still had the error |
| 09:06 | ashimema | oh.. this is inside ktd is it? |
| 09:07 | marcelr | no in my own dev container |
| 09:07 | davidnind[m] | yes for me |
| 09:07 | marcelr | it is bug 31883 |
| 09:07 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31883 normal, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Failed QA , t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters missing built-in TT filter "trim" causes false warnings |
| 09:07 | marcelr | it has a unicode issue somewhere |
| 09:08 | ashimema | okies |
| 09:09 | wierd... | |
| 09:09 | there's some funk in the subject of the patch | |
| 09:10 | Subject: [PATCH] =?UTF-8?q?Bug=C2=A031883:=20t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters?=... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]OLpiFGFHJAquPxkEa>) | |
| 09:10 | never seen that sort of thing before | |
| 09:10 | marcelr | i will try to fetch it manually and remove the cruft |
| 09:14 | hmm kind of stubborn thing, i removed the whole title.. but to no avail yet | |
| 09:17 | ashimema | dang |
| 09:17 | annoying | |
| 09:19 | marcelr | he solved |
| 09:19 | it is a git bz issue with unicode cruft on the Bugzilla title and attachment name | |
| 09:20 | ashimema | erm.. |
| 09:20 | it just worked first time for me.. lol | |
| 09:20 | I have no idea why | |
| 09:20 | davidnind[m] | marcelr++ |
| 09:20 | marcelr | version differences? |
| 09:22 | ashimema | maybe.. |
| 09:23 | marcelr | ashimema you are interfering |
| 09:23 | now i have the issue again | |
| 09:23 | ashimema | ? |
| 09:24 | ☹️ | |
| 09:24 | marcelr | i will remove your stuff |
| 09:24 | ashimema | ok |
| 09:25 | marcelr | ashimema: could you forget the former patch and add a qa stamp on the current(!!!) one ? |
| 09:26 | ashimema | sure |
| 09:27 | marcelr | great |
| 09:31 | Joubu | bz attach with and without -e behave differently with the unicode issue IIRC |
| 09:32 | marcelr | ok i should have tried |
| 09:33 | ashimema | oh.. i never use -e |
| 09:33 | marcelr | and i do: git bz attach -e -n $1 HEAD; |
| 09:34 | so thats the cause | |
| 09:34 | * ashimema | should try the puthon3 branch some time soon |
| 09:36 | marcelr | With -e, allows editing of the attachments on the listed bug |
| 09:36 | which also contained the unicode | |
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| 09:37 | marcelr | bbl |
| 09:42 | AFperth | I have spoken witha few people before because we can't access our library data!! the admin is in Canberra Perth and the person in charged has quit and the black box attached to koha is broken. therefore we can't access our data anymore. can someone tell me how we can retrieve it please? |
| 10:20 | paulderscheid[m] | morning all |
| 10:24 | oleonard | o/ |
| 10:34 | mtj | hi folks, im curious about the gbz attach unicode problems too... |
| 10:35 | the problem seems to be a recent thing for me | |
| 10:36 | i havent done any big upgrades on my dev box in along time | |
| 10:37 | Joubu | it's not a recent problem, it has always been there |
| 10:37 | mtj | hmm, ok |
| 10:37 | ashimema | it's why I stopped using -e nearly a decade ago and never looked back I think. |
| 10:38 | i pretty much never got into the habbit of using -e because it worked so infrequently for me | |
| 10:38 | cait | I am constantly using -e |
| 10:38 | don't have any issues usually | |
| 10:38 | ashimema | I think it got better, but never 100% |
| 10:38 | oleonard | I just use it because I was told to 100 years ago and I never even knew why |
| 10:38 | ashimema | I'm in the habbit of looking at bz to add comments myself |
| 10:38 | cait | it brings up the edit |
| 10:38 | so you can obsolete and set patch difficulty | |
| 10:39 | ashimema | it auto-obsoletes anyway |
| 10:39 | without -e | |
| 10:39 | mtj | i have an alias to use -e always too |
| 10:39 | ashimema | so long as patch names match.. which they usually will |
| 10:39 | I can't set 'obsolete' tags on comments via -e (which would be nice) | |
| 10:39 | cait | yeah, but I often do clean-up stuff |
| 10:40 | ashimema | and I tend to go to the bug on bz to check it uploaded OK then add my comment |
| 10:40 | so -e doesn't win me anything in my workflow | |
| 10:40 | I really really really wish there was a way to hide all the 'this was attached' comments.. | |
| 10:40 | they drive me mad | |
| 10:41 | * magnuse | never had issues with -e, but uses bz way too infrequently... |
| 10:41 | magnuse | if i have a catalogue where some records have "place of publication" in 260a and some have it in 264a, and i want to get both into biblio.copyrightdate, should it work to simply map both marc fields to that db field in admin/koha2marclinks.pl? |
| 10:45 | cait | I hope so :) |
| 10:45 | Joubu | ashimema: The comments with patches that have been obsoleted are obsoleted (cronjob IIRC), and so are folded |
| 10:48 | ashimema | I've been doing it manually for ages.. I don't see it happen otherwise |
| 10:48 | so maybe there's a cronjob that's dead? | |
| 10:48 | cait | maybe you are too fast for the cron :) |
| 10:48 | * cait | heads into a 2 hour meeting.... wish me luck |
| 10:48 | cait | :) |
| 10:48 | Joubu | doing manually? |
| 10:49 | oleonard | I thought I remembered the comments being obsoleted automatically at one time but it has been ages since it worked |
| 10:49 | I thought I asked rangi[m] about it at one time but maybe I misremember | |
| 10:50 | ashimema | as in I go through every bloody comment and add the 'obsolete' tag to it.. |
| 10:50 | Joubu | There was that as well, but haven't tried it since... https://pastebin.com/c99G9KgG |
| 10:50 | ashimema | so I can actually read the comments |
| 10:53 | * ashimema | has recently switched to firefox.. any tips on which extension for using userscripts like that one Joubu ? |
| 10:53 | Joubu | Greasemonkey |
| 11:05 | ashimema | ta |
| 11:13 | magnuse | cait: you hope admin/koha2marclinks.pl should work the way i hope? |
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| 11:22 | cait | magnuse: yes |
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| 11:22 | cait | we map them too |
| 11:36 | magnuse | cait: doesn't seem to work for me |
| 11:36 | oleonard | ashimema: Did you mention the other day you were getting 404 errors from the api? |
| 11:37 | ashimema | Er.. don't think that was me |
| 11:37 | It sometimes means the spec files are stuffed | |
| 11:37 | That where I usually start looking. Tail the logs | |
| 11:50 | oleonard | Thanks ashimema, I had downgraded Mojolicious for testing an older Koha |
| 11:50 | ashimema | Haha, been there, done that |
| 11:50 | tcohen | o/ |
| 12:03 | cait | magnuse: hm we didn't use the script, we relaoded the data (one advantage if you are using a union catalogue) |
| 12:05 | magnuse | cait: ah, and this is an early stage of a migration, so i think we just see what happens next time we load the data |
| 12:13 | tcohen | hola Joubu cait ashimema oleonard magnuse mtj |
| 12:13 | oleonard | o/ |
| 12:13 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 12:38 | tcohen | thd: do you think we need gmcharlt for the last wiki backup? |
| 12:38 | * tcohen | wants to prepare for the transitiotn next week |
| 12:38 | cait | confetti! |
| 12:38 | wahanui | o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 12:38 | cait | super happy |
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| 12:45 | marcelr | o/ |
| 12:46 | hmm why does EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio use append_fields for 952 ? | |
| 12:46 | now it is 999 952 | |
| 12:47 | hmm even more fun | |
| 12:47 | git grep EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio C4/Biblio.pm: EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio | |
| 12:47 | exported but not existing ? | |
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| 12:49 | tcohen | marcelr: we are phasing that out in favour of the REcordProcessor filter |
| 12:49 | marcelr | ha Koha::Item::_embed_items still does it |
| 12:49 | append | |
| 12:49 | ashimema | Man the UK is such a mess |
| 12:50 | tcohen | that was an oversight from when I pushed Joubu's stuff |
| 12:50 | ashimema and I are working on getting rid of it on bug 31224 | |
| 12:50 | marcelr | do you fix it or should I |
| 12:50 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31224 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Koha::Biblio::Metadata->record should use the EmbedItems filter |
| 12:51 | marcelr | the routine was refactored into Koha objects |
| 12:51 | i'll let you fix it there | |
| 12:51 | tcohen | marcelr: fix it if you think it is worth |
| 12:51 | the other dev is big and will take more time | |
| 12:52 | marcelr | no i added a comment on 31224 |
| 12:52 | it wont crash Koha now | |
| 12:53 | tcohen | LOL |
| 12:53 | marcelr | but i would like the insert_ordered instead of append_fields though to remove 999 952 in marcxml |
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| 12:54 | marcelr | looks a bit silly |
| 12:54 | SupportLibrary[m] | Hello. Greetings from Bulgaria. |
| 12:54 | marcelr | hi SupportLibrary[m] |
| 12:54 | * cait | waves from Germany |
| 12:55 | ashimema | Hi |
| 12:55 | wahanui | hola, ashimema |
| 12:55 | * tcohen | waves from Argentina |
| 12:55 | tcohen | ashimema: what's wrong with the UK now? |
| 12:55 | * ashimema | sadly waves from the mess that is the UK right now |
| 12:56 | ashimema | Prime minister just quit after a shockingly bad 44 days of being in power |
| 12:57 | marcelr | ah she left already |
| 12:57 | and now boris again? :) | |
| 12:57 | ashimema | I can't really remember the last time I felt we had a functioning parliament/government.. the coalition 12 years ago maybe? |
| 12:58 | Who knows.. British politics is like watching a poorly funded soap right now.. one mess to another | |
| 12:58 | marcelr | King Charles will stand up now ! |
| 12:58 | and rule the country | |
| 12:58 | ashimema | Haha, |
| 12:59 | I wouldn't rule anything out right now | |
| 13:00 | marcelr | how large is her departure bonus btw ? |
| 13:00 | its a good investment | |
| 13:00 | SupportLibrary[m] | I'm part of a team of enthusiasts and we've been using Koch for a while now at our local library. If it doesn't sound stupid, I would like to ask about a solution to a problem we encountered. It's about editing a record, and specifically when pressing the Settings button, if pushed to disable change framework option |
| 13:02 | marcelr | tcohen: i might add a tiny patch to replace append_fields if 31224 takes much time |
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| 13:41 | caroline_catlady | SupportLibrary[m], can you elaborate on your problem? you click the Settings button to change the frameowrk and then what happens? |
| 13:50 | SupportLibrary[m] | When i click this button i want to hide or remove "change the framework" because if i change the framework some fields disappear |
| 13:51 | Example: If I edit a book and change the template to this for example for a CD. If there are fields missing from the CD template but not from the book template, the information that was there will disappear | |
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| 14:37 | marcelr | easy signoff? bug 31889 |
| 14:37 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31889 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Insert 952 tags in correct order when embedding items |
| 14:38 | marcelr | bbl |
| 14:55 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:19 | caroline | SupportLibrary[m], I don't think there is a way to remove the button or the option. However, I suggest changing your frameworks so that the hidden fields are in an actual tab (not the ignore tab) and the Editor checkbox is unchecked. That way, the information will not be lost if you change frameworks, but the field will not be visible in the editor |
| 15:19 | I don't know if that makes sense? | |
| 15:20 | I you really want to hide the option, I guess you could do it with the InranertUserCSS or IntranetUserJS system preference | |
| 15:22 | trying to clarify my hidden field explanation... 'ignore' tab will remove the information from the record, but 'Editor' checkbox will only hide the field from the editing form | |
| 15:22 | (maybe I'm just being more confusing, if so, I apologize!!) | |
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| 15:53 | cait | caroline: are you the one to ask to grap the de-DE po files from translate for 22.05 manual? |
| 15:54 | caroline: i think we had a process, but I forgot it again and it would be great to get the manual on the website updated | |
| 15:54 | grap=grab | |
| 15:54 | caroline | not sure what the process is... ashimema maybe? |
| 15:54 | I have to go, but I'll be back later | |
| 15:55 | cait | me too, have a nice day, just in case :) |
| 15:59 | ashimema | huh |
| 15:59 | * ashimema | reads back |
| 15:59 | ashimema | I can't for the life of me remember |
| 16:05 | cait | similar... I thought there was a form to make a merge request or so? but... url? |
| 16:06 | ashimema | ah.. yes |
| 16:06 | there is | |
| 16:07 | but I'm on a new computer and new browser.. | |
| 16:07 | can't remember the 'secret' url | |
| 16:11 | SupportLibrary[m] | <caroline> "Support Library, I don't think..." <- Thank you |
| 16:11 | I will try it | |
| 16:35 | cait | bye all |
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| 18:41 | davidnind[m] | here is the wiki page I wrote a while ago on the process for translating the manual https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lating_the_manual |
| 18:42 | still not sure what is for steps 5 and 6 | |
| 18:43 | so maybe I should send a message to koha-translate mailing list/translation manager to clarify? | |
| 18:49 | caroline | I love that one of the steps is "magic happens" XD |
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| 19:23 | fridolin | yellow |
| 19:23 | davidnind[m]: thanks a lot for your signoffs :D | |
| 19:31 | caroline | davidnind[m]++ |
| 20:35 | frido or marcel, would you care to share what you did to correct what bug 24387 messed up? Even if it's not applicable to everyone, I could at least use it as inspiration... Were about to upgrade 60+ installations from 21.05 to 22.05 and I'm seriously dreading this | |
| 20:35 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Rename News tool |
| 20:45 | fridolin | caroline: it was entirely manual, deleting and reediting entries |
| 20:46 | you may delete entries before upgrade and recreate them manually after | |
| 20:46 | caroline | damn... I was hoping to avoid the manual stuff |
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| 20:53 | Mauricio | Hello everyone, please someone could helpme with an error when update koha from v19.05 to 22.05. This is the error: "Upgrade to 22.05.04.002 [15:43:43]: Bug 31086 - Do not allow null values in branchcodes for reserves ERROR - {UNKNOWN}: DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot change column 'branchcode': used in a foreign key constraint 'reserves_ibfk_4' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Installer.pm line 739" |
| 20:53 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31086 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Do not allow hold requests with no branchcode |
| 20:57 | caroline | Mauricio, see bug 31673 |
| 20:57 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31673 blocker, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to stable , DB update of bug 31086 fails: Cannot change column 'branchcode': used in a foreign key constraint |
| 20:58 | Mauricio | thanks! (Y) |
| 21:01 | caroline | lukeg, when is 22.05.06 coming out? is it next week? |
| 21:04 | Mauricio | bug 37673 says that the file a/installer/data/mysql/db_revs/220600020.pl need to be edited, but in my directory the 220505000.pl is the lastaone. I do not have 220600020.pl file. |
| 21:04 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=37673 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
| 21:04 | Mauricio | maybe my upgrade is incomplete... |
| 21:05 | caroline | Mauricio, I don't think the fix is available yet |
| 21:06 | Mauricio | oh ok. Is there a way that i could complete my upgrade? |
| 21:07 | caroline | no idea sorry... Someone said they did an sql command and it worked for them https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=31086#c34 |
| 21:07 | huginn` | Bug 31086: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Do not allow hold requests with no branchcode |
| 21:08 | Mauricio | ok i`ll ckeck it now |
| 21:12 | yes, confirmed, The process continue after SQL. | |
| 21:12 | Thanks Caroline! (= | |
| 21:12 | caroline | yay! |
| 21:32 | lukeg | caroline: My plan is to release 22.05.06 on 10/24 |
| 21:32 | caroline | lukeg, thanks! Someone asked me, and I said I thought it was next week, but I wasn't 100% sure |
| 21:45 | lukeg | Its usually the 22nd, but this month that falls on a Saturday so we prefer to wait till a weekday |
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| 21:52 | Tylathos | Hey :) I run into a problem. I can't use the issue stats wizard. I always get an Error Page 500. Anyone else got the problem. (Version: 22.05.05.000) |
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