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| 02:16 | dcook | ORMs... arggggh |
| 02:25 | But also how we use it... | |
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| 06:01 | alex_ | Bonjour |
| 06:01 | wahanui | what's up, alex_ |
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| 06:55 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:00 | cait | good morning #koha! |
| 07:07 | fridolin | yellowwwww |
| 07:08 | * dcook | waves |
| 07:08 | dcook | I hope everyone has a better Koha day than I did heh |
| 07:13 | cait | fridolin: violet! |
| 07:25 | fridolin | ^^ |
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| 07:36 | cait | jajm: back on the redesign for a bit now |
| 07:36 | If someone wants to join: https://staff-gui.sandboxes.bi[…]/koha/mainpage.pl | |
| 07:38 | jajm | cait: i'm about to push a new patch for the header search bar |
| 07:39 | done | |
| 07:40 | cait | i'll look at the other things first, just started |
| 07:40 | i like the new sidebar look | |
| 07:40 | https://github.com/jajm/koha-s[…]edesign/issues/30 | |
| 07:44 | jajm: is there something I could do to make your life easier to see which tested ok? so far I comment, because I can't change the labels I thnk | |
| 07:49 | paulderscheid[m] | morning #koha |
| 07:49 | cait | good morning paulderscheid[m] :) |
| 07:58 | jajm | cait: i'll look at github settings to see what i can allow people to do, but a comment is enough i think |
| 07:59 | cait | ok, happy to do that, just wanted to check with you what you'd prefer |
| 08:45 | ashimema | +1 |
| 08:53 | cait | jajm: does it makes sense to reset the sandbox now for the search bars? |
| 08:56 | jajm | cait: i think so |
| 08:56 | cait | ok, on it |
| 09:12 | jajm: maybe we shoudl also do a test of the search bar with an RTL script (Arabic or Hebrew) ? | |
| 09:13 | i can't install those from the action menu in the sandbox | |
| 09:13 | ashimema | that's a good call cait |
| 09:13 | We should add an RTL lang to the sandbox options.. | |
| 09:13 | cait | also... mobile - I believe hte last iteration has an issue with small screens (maybe before too) |
| 09:15 | jajm | just tried with ar-Arab... it's completely broken of course :) |
| 09:15 | cait | no super good news for small screens either |
| 09:15 | adding screenshots right now | |
| 09:17 | ashimema | is 'ar-Arab' a good one to have as an option on the sandboxes cait? |
| 09:17 | or would Hebrew be better? | |
| 09:18 | or both I suppose.. | |
| 09:18 | it's a simple template change to add support | |
| 09:18 | cait | i think ar-Arab is the more complete one |
| 09:18 | at least it used to be a while ago | |
| 09:18 | so we might get more 'effect' | |
| 09:19 | while you are on it... maybe ukrainian? | |
| 09:19 | that would also be interesting for the diacritics and script | |
| 09:19 | ashimema | whats the code for ukrainian? |
| 09:19 | cait | uk |
| 09:20 | in pootle... not sure about koha sec | |
| 09:20 | uk-UA | |
| 09:20 | ashimema | ta |
| 09:34 | cait | someone ideas about a 500 error on returning items? |
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| 09:43 | saa | after upgrading my koha from 19.05 to 21.11 I am unable to issue return and my intranet error log shows error AH01215: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 784.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/errors/500.pl I am unable to see my libraries name under libraries in global system preferences |
| 09:43 | can someone help to sort out this error | |
| 09:50 | [cgi:error] [pid 6606] [client 172.16.3.14:56574] AH01215: Argument "" isn't numeric in numeric gt (>) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/categories.tt line 631 | |
| 09:50 | can someone help | |
| 09:50 | i am getting this error | |
| 09:56 | after upgrading i am unable to see libraries name how to sort out this error | |
| 09:57 | can someone help | |
| 10:10 | cait | bbiab |
| 10:10 | saa: tat's only a warning - your error shoudl be elsewhere | |
| 10:11 | you have a problem with the API | |
| 10:11 | that#s what the missing library list points to | |
| 10:12 | ok then | |
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| 10:16 | saa | cait can u help me to sort out issue of API |
| 10:16 | can u help me | |
| 10:16 | i am unable to see my library name | |
| 10:16 | in my kohaadmin page | |
| 10:22 | cait why cannot i see my library name on my kohaadmin page | |
| 10:27 | i would greatly appreciate your help | |
| 10:35 | cait | tehre have been several mails on the mailng ist about this |
| 10:35 | i think a held back pacakge is the issue most of the time | |
| 10:36 | mtj still awake amybe? | |
| 10:36 | check this thread here maybe: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29964 | |
| 10:37 | huginn` | Bug 29964: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , SMTP server list not populating |
| 10:37 | cait | it's abut SMTP serves, but that's the same issue |
| 10:42 | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-08-23#i_2446340 | |
| 10:43 | one solution is also outlined here: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]-June/057978.html | |
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| 10:45 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 10:46 | oleonard | o/ |
| 11:30 | cait | jajm: taking a break... giving others a chance to comment |
| 11:38 | mtj | hi cait, i will write that API troubleshooting guide now... |
| 11:39 | oleonard | jajm: I still like the original design with centered table headers and columns but it only works if you can designate certain individual columns as being left-aligned. https://snipboard.io/X9l2hN.jpg |
| 11:42 | The new search bar design works better to accommodate multiple fields but it's still unusable if you have both IntranetAddMastheadLibraryPulldown and IntranetCatalogSearchPulldown enabled (and your browser isn't maximized) | |
| 11:48 | jajm | should we move all secondary inputs into the "extra" filters area then ? |
| 11:49 | cait | mtj: you'd do me a great favor |
| 12:03 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 12:26 | hola mtj cait | |
| 12:29 | mtj | hola tcohen 🐷 |
| 12:33 | cait | jajm: i think the extra filters is good |
| 12:33 | jajm: the idea to move there... | |
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| 13:03 | liliputech | hi koha! |
| 13:03 | wahanui | hi koha! is probably there a table in which i can see if a borrower has borrowed any books (or if library lended out any books) ? |
| 13:05 | cait | hi liliputech |
| 13:07 | new stange thing... pull downs on advanced search, my coworkers swear it#s a different font? | |
| 13:07 | magnuse | huh, trying to install 22.05 with debian packages on ubuntu 20.04. the webinstaller says i have no Search::Elasticsearch and need "Minimum version: 6.80". apt-cache policy says i have 6.00-1 of libsearch-elasticsearch-perl. what am i missing? mtj? |
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| 13:07 | magnuse | hiya liliputech |
| 13:08 | cait | hm isn't 6.0 lower than 6.8? |
| 13:09 | mtj | magnuse: hiya.. 1 tic |
| 13:09 | magnuse | cait: i would think so |
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| 13:13 | cait | but then the warning is right, isnt't it? |
| 13:13 | and I think you got to install elastic seaparate from Koha as it's not mandatory yet? | |
| 13:13 | mtj | magnuse: you are installing from koha repo? not koha-staging? |
| 13:13 | cait | ah mtj *hands over* |
| 13:13 | magnuse | mtj: yeah |
| 13:14 | mtj: deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha 22.05 main | |
| 13:14 | ...is what is in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list | |
| 13:20 | mtj | ok ta |
| 13:23 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "More details about "missing" Search::Elasticsearch" (36 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14436 |
| 13:23 | magnuse | mtj: ^ |
| 13:27 | mtj | magnuse: ill push up the 6.80 package, just testing.. |
| 13:28 | its related to bug 25669 | |
| 13:28 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25669 normal, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Needs documenting , ElasticSearch 6: [types removal] Specifying types in put mapping requests is deprecated (incompatible with 7) |
| 13:29 | mtj | patch was pushed, but ES package wasnt updated from 6.00 to 6.80 |
| 13:39 | magnuse | mtj: still getting "Candidate: 6.00-1" from apt-cache cpolicy? |
| 13:39 | (after apt-get update) | |
| 13:40 | ah, you didn't push yet :-) | |
| 13:40 | sorry, i gotta run, will try again tomorrow | |
| 13:40 | mtj++ | |
| 13:42 | mtj | magnuse: youy can grab v6.81 from here, and install manually... |
| 13:42 | https://debian.koha-community.[…]asticsearch-perl/ | |
| 13:42 | ill wait for tests to finish before i push | |
| 13:43 | https://debian.koha-community.[…]1-1-koha1_all.deb | |
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| 13:59 | thd | tcohen: Are you around? |
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| 14:05 | tuxayo | He |
| 14:05 | Hi | |
| 14:05 | ashimema | hola |
| 14:06 | ooh.. is there a meeting any minute? | |
| 14:06 | yes.. | |
| 14:06 | I'll send my apologies now.. gotta go on the school run unexpectedly as the other half is running late. | |
| 14:06 | bbiab | |
| 14:07 | cait | oh meeting time |
| 14:07 | jajm | cait: i think i won't submit another patch today for bug 30952, so if you want to reset your sandbox, it's a good time to do so ;) |
| 14:07 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , New design for staff interface |
| 14:08 | cait | jajm: I can't spedn more time today - but can try to come back to it tomorrow |
| 14:08 | tuxayo: are you chariing? | |
| 14:09 | anyone around for ht emeeting? | |
| 14:10 | thd | Yes |
| 14:10 | paulderscheid[m] | o/ |
| 14:10 | thd | Not awake but around. |
| 14:11 | cait | I can try chairing, give me another minute |
| 14:11 | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 14 September 2022 | |
| 14:11 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Sep 14 14:11:54 2022 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:11 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:11 | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_14_september_2022' | |
| 14:11 | tuxayo | Sorry, a bit late to open everyhting. |
| 14:11 | cait: yes | |
| 14:12 | cait | #topic Introductions |
| 14:12 | #chair tuxayo | |
| 14:12 | huginn` | Current chairs: cait tuxayo |
| 14:12 | cait | Please introduce yourself using #info |
| 14:12 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany | |
| 14:12 | want to take over tuxayo? | |
| 14:12 | paulderscheid[m] | #info Paul Derscheid, LMSCloud GmbH, Munich, Germany |
| 14:12 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:12 | tuxayo | If you want to have a chillier meeting, I can : |
| 14:12 | * :) | |
| 14:13 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]14_September_2022 Today's agenda | |
| 14:13 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK |
| 14:13 | cait | we can work together :) |
| 14:13 | tuxayo | ↑↑ agenda just updated so reload if you had it |
| 14:13 | * ashimema | is on the school run so excuse the mobile typos |
| 14:13 | tuxayo | ok cait :) |
| 14:13 | cait | qa_team |
| 14:14 | tuxayo | #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Limited, France |
| 14:14 | cait | hm wahanui? |
| 14:14 | wahanui | i am a conch |
| 14:14 | tuxayo | rmaints? |
| 14:14 | wahanui | rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo |
| 14:14 | cait | qa_team? |
| 14:14 | wahanui | i heard qa_team was cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook |
| 14:14 | tuxayo | qa_team? |
| 14:14 | wahanui | i guess qa_team is cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook |
| 14:14 | cait | maybe anoter minute |
| 14:14 | mtj | hi folks, im about-ish |
| 14:15 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:15 | cait | moving on.... :) |
| 14:15 | mtj | hi thd, perhaps we can chat about wiki stuff after meeting? |
| 14:15 | cait | #topic Announcements |
| 14:15 | thd | yes mtj |
| 14:15 | liliputech | #info Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre, France |
| 14:15 | tuxayo | Anything to announce that doesn't fit more the other topics? |
| 14:15 | cait | #info KohaCon next week! If you are attending, feel free to add yourself to arrivals and departures on the wiki: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/KohaCon22_Social |
| 14:16 | #link https://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon22/ KohaCon22 website - presentations will also be streamed to YouTube | |
| 14:16 | #info National Library of Finland to host KohaCon23 in Helsinki, Finland! | |
| 14:16 | anyone else? :) | |
| 14:16 | tuxayo | :D |
| 14:17 | cait | tuxayo: shall we move on? |
| 14:17 | tuxayo | k |
| 14:18 | #topic Update from the Release manager (22.11) | |
| 14:18 | cait | tcohen: around? |
| 14:18 | tuxayo | Let's bring back of the topic later if they show up |
| 14:18 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 14:18 | cait | yep |
| 14:18 | tuxayo | rmaints? |
| 14:18 | wahanui | rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo |
| 14:18 | cait | i think I have seen tuxayo ... |
| 14:19 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 14:19 | Need some catch up for oldoldstable/21.05.x. | |
| 14:19 | Otherwise, nothing much to say. | |
| 14:20 | cait | liliputech? |
| 14:20 | wahanui | somebody said liliputech was not around - so I think we'll postpone that one again |
| 14:20 | cait | forget liliputech |
| 14:20 | wahanui | cait: I forgot liliputech |
| 14:20 | cait | move on? |
| 14:20 | tuxayo | #topic Updates from the QA team |
| 14:20 | qa_team? | |
| 14:20 | wahanui | qa_team is probably cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook |
| 14:20 | cait | Riiiiight, that's me :) |
| 14:20 | (and more) | |
| 14:21 | #info QAM is looking for some topic expert for LDAP - we got about 4 bugs waiting both queues since forever and I am calling for help! | |
| 14:22 | tuxayo | Patch testing session with french speakers last week had okay results compared to the time spend. Let's see how it goes with english speakers. |
| 14:22 | ashimema | Are those ones I've already touched? |
| 14:22 | Have a feeling they are | |
| 14:22 | cait | #info QA Team is down another person with kohaputti leaving - thanks a lot for everything! You'll be missed! |
| 14:22 | ashimema | Glad your patch testing sessions are going well tuyaxo |
| 14:23 | tuxayo | #info monday 26th, patch testing session: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]ember/058422.html |
| 14:23 | cait | LDAP patches are specifically bug 30646, bug 17215, bug 29930 and bug 11808 |
| 14:23 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add option to send WELCOME notice for new patrons added at first login via LDAP/SAML |
| 14:23 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, janik.hilser, BLOCKED , Cardnumbers of patrons created using LDAP Replication not using autoMemberNum if configured | |
| 14:23 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29930 normal, P5 - low, ---, janik.hilser, Needs Signoff , Auth with LDAP: Update tag leads to unwanted updates | |
| 14:23 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=11808 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Needs Signoff , When searching for a cardnumber in the intranet, also try to search for it on the LDAP server if one is configured and add/update user | |
| 14:24 | cait | tuxayo: do you want to info something about your patch testing session? |
| 14:24 | tuxayo | I infoed the next one |
| 14:24 | So it's okay | |
| 14:24 | cait | ah missed that in the bug noise |
| 14:24 | in other news... QA team please QA and testers please test :) | |
| 14:24 | move on? | |
| 14:25 | tuxayo | #topic Status of roadmap projects |
| 14:25 | cait | do you have the link by chance? |
| 14:25 | tuxayo | #info https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_22.11_roadmap |
| 14:25 | cait | perfect |
| 14:25 | tcohen | hi all |
| 14:25 | cait | you are jsut on time |
| 14:25 | tuxayo | thd, tcohen , mtj, anothing about the wiki migration |
| 14:25 | cait | roadmap update? :) |
| 14:26 | yes, maybe start with wiki migration | |
| 14:26 | thd | I fixed a bug for generating the postmigration database. |
| 14:26 | I fixed a bug for generating the postupdate database. | |
| 14:27 | mtj | i have been AWOL for a bit re: wiki stuff, will have a catchup with thd |
| 14:27 | tcohen | I'm catching up with things after being absent-ish last week |
| 14:27 | cait | is it a matter of finding another date now? |
| 14:28 | I am keen to start properly categorizing wiki pages once we got the new editor for it :) | |
| 14:28 | tcohen | thd provided an export of the migrated data, which he also fixed yesterday |
| 14:28 | * ashimema | had totally failed at working on roadmap as a priority this cycle |
| 14:28 | mtj | thd++ |
| 14:28 | tcohen | the plan is to load it in https://wiki.test.koha-community.org |
| 14:28 | ASAP | |
| 14:28 | ashimema | Excellent |
| 14:28 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
| 14:29 | * tcohen | is opening the roadmap, sorry |
| 14:29 | tcohen | OK, yeah |
| 14:29 | cait | we have a bunch on the actions from last meeting today - maybe only touch those that have news |
| 14:29 | thd | I have also been testing MediaWiki Canasta Docker container but do not have sufficient experience working with Docker containers. |
| 14:30 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:30 | tcohen | * Task queue |
| 14:30 | cait | #info Wiki update is to continue ASAP - thd fixed another error and we hope for news very soon |
| 14:31 | tcohen | We've made good progress here. The important stuff has moved, adding an API for displaying jobs info is NQA |
| 14:31 | moving stage MARC import into the task queue is PQA, we are doing great | |
| 14:31 | thd | The bug fix was a newly introduced bug and trivial for moving some code a few lines. |
| 14:32 | cait | #info Staff interface redesign (bug 30952) is being worked on intensely. You can use patches on bug to set up a sandbox, issues for the branch are tracked on github: https://github.com/jajm/koha-s[…]e-redesign/issues (lots of screenshots to see) |
| 14:32 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , New design for staff interface |
| 14:32 | tcohen | About the ERM and Vue, I've asked Agustin to look at the Vue integration done on that development. Any other Vue expert please take a look |
| 14:32 | cait | #info Task queue: is moving along: API for jobs info is NQA, moving MARC import is PQA |
| 14:32 | tcohen | C4::Biblio and C4::Items refactoring has moved steadily |
| 14:33 | lots of things already in master and old code removed | |
| 14:33 | cait | #info ERM Any Vue experts: Please have a look at the ERM development |
| 14:33 | tcohen | CSRF prevention: we should do a 'CSRF day' in which we all chat about it, test it to make sure all is covered, and push it |
| 14:34 | cait | #info Rewrite of C4::Biblio and C4::Items is progressing with some bigger patches pushed lately |
| 14:34 | do you want me to action you for calling that day? | |
| 14:34 | :) | |
| 14:34 | tcohen | ok |
| 14:34 | ashimema | ++ |
| 14:34 | tcohen | ashimema: anything to say about availability/policy in the Koha::* namespace |
| 14:34 | cait | #action tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together |
| 14:35 | ashimema | I need to get back on to it.. made lots of progress then went on vacation ;) |
| 14:36 | tcohen | Not on the roadmap, but OAuth2/OIDC can already be tested, though it has on UI and the oauth providers need to be configured using the API <.< |
| 14:36 | https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]mits/oauth_client | |
| 14:36 | working on the login form right now | |
| 14:36 | cait | maybe also note ont he bug? |
| 14:36 | I had been asked about that one :) | |
| 14:36 | tcohen | That branch is not expected to be polished :-D |
| 14:36 | ok, I will | |
| 14:36 | cait | thx |
| 14:36 | tcohen++ | |
| 14:37 | tcohen | wow, time flies! |
| 14:37 | ashimema | I've reviewed that one and it's all pretty solid looking to me |
| 14:37 | cait | #info OAuth2/OIDC work is progressing, see https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]mits/oauth_client |
| 14:37 | ashimema | Will be much easier to fully reviews once we have a simple configuration ui |
| 14:37 | tcohen | absolutely, it should be submitted by the end of the week |
| 14:37 | cait | great news overall! |
| 14:37 | team++ | |
| 14:37 | ashimema | Awesome |
| 14:38 | cait | ready to move on? |
| 14:38 | tcohen | that's all, thanks everyone for the great submissions |
| 14:38 | cait | #topic Actions from last meeting |
| 14:38 | tcohen | also |
| 14:38 | cait | ups |
| 14:38 | tcohen | joonas++ |
| 14:39 | ashimema | joonas++ |
| 14:39 | tuxayo | joonas++ |
| 14:39 | cait | joonas++ |
| 14:39 | tuxayo | «ashimema needs to remove an introduced warning on bug 28854 tests (or test for its existence) » |
| 14:39 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28854 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, RESOLVED FIXED, Add ability to create bundles of items for circulation |
| 14:40 | cait | RESOLVED fixed... done? |
| 14:40 | ashimema | I think I did that one |
| 14:40 | tuxayo | "introduced warning" |
| 14:40 | ashimema | Yup |
| 14:40 | tuxayo | So it need a followup? |
| 14:40 | ashimema | Done |
| 14:40 | cait | follow-up pushed to master |
| 14:40 | tuxayo | ok |
| 14:40 | cait | next: liliputech (deferred from previous meetingx2) discuss koha CI (docker image built + manual build) hosting on gitlab instance provided by BibLibre's partner AFI. |
| 14:41 | tuxayo | #action liliputech (deferred from previous meetingx3) discuss koha CI (docker image built + manual build) hosting on gitlab instance provided by BibLibre's partner AFI. |
| 14:41 | @later tell liliputech any news about that? http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-09-14#i_2450094 | |
| 14:41 | huginn` | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:41 | tuxayo | next: «Katrin to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting» |
| 14:42 | cait | I am sorry, I missed doing that |
| 14:43 | @action cait to update LTS wiki page | |
| 14:43 | huginn` | cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 14:43 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 14:43 | tuxayo | #action Katrin to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting |
| 14:43 | cait | ah right |
| 14:43 | tuxayo | next: «tcohen will make a counter proposal about public_read_list() » |
| 14:43 | cait | do we have a bug number for that one? |
| 14:44 | tcohen | I will go with Martin's idea of making it raise an exception |
| 14:44 | consider the action ended | |
| 14:44 | ashimema | I can't remember what we discussed around it.. oops |
| 14:44 | cait | ashimema will file a bug making Koha::Object::public_read_list throw an exception |
| 14:44 | tuxayo | ok |
| 14:44 | ashimema | But happy to submit making it their an exception |
| 14:45 | Will do once gone from school run | |
| 14:45 | cait | rename the master branch to 'main' |
| 14:45 | I think this could have been a topic actually | |
| 14:45 | tuxayo | yes it is |
| 14:45 | cait | hm we do have it int he next section too |
| 14:45 | ok, so maybe we move? | |
| 14:45 | tuxayo | I forgot to move it |
| 14:46 | I moved it 5 min ago so juste refresh | |
| 14:46 | cait | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 14:46 | tuxayo | #action ashimema will file a bug making Koha::Object::public_read_list throw an exception |
| 14:46 | «Renaming "master" branch. To "main" for example» | |
| 14:46 | cait | Rename "master" branch - suggestion: main |
| 14:46 | heh | |
| 14:46 | * tcohen | likes |
| 14:46 | cait | I thnk if we do it, maybe at the beginning of the cycle |
| 14:47 | mtj | i bumped into a security bug recently, will log a bug |
| 14:47 | cait | it might need quite a lot of changes in scripts etc so better to do that early cycle |
| 14:47 | tuxayo | main gets the most support. Catalyst uses that since a 1year+ and no confusion issue in day to day usage. |
| 14:47 | cait | I also liked dev or development as a suggestion |
| 14:48 | because it eplains a bit better - but was told main was some kind of new standard? | |
| 14:48 | ashimema | main is good.. |
| 14:48 | Mmm | |
| 14:48 | mtj | #info im working on a wiki doc to fix API proiblems, will upload today |
| 14:48 | cait | mtj++ |
| 14:48 | will be so happy to have something to point people to :) | |
| 14:48 | tuxayo | «main was some kind of new standard?» |
| 14:48 | Indeed | |
| 14:48 | ashimema | Dev is also fine with me |
| 14:49 | I find both main and trunk a little ambiguous | |
| 14:49 | But most Devs will understand without any explanting | |
| 14:49 | tcohen | it's Gitlab's default |
| 14:49 | ashimema | Expplanation |
| 14:50 | mtj | 'main' does seem to be a newish popular choice, so... im happy with that :) |
| 14:51 | cait | I am ok with it too |
| 14:51 | what i'd like is make sure we have all things working still... | |
| 14:51 | like have some easy to go instructions for people like me what to change on local repos etc. :) | |
| 14:52 | tuxayo | Is main okay enough to go with it or does someone feel like doing a poll between that and the other choices? |
| 14:52 | ashimema | Worth a global search on master in the wiki |
| 14:52 | mtj | #info i'll aim to chat to arthur about the koha CI stuff on AFI |
| 14:53 | ashimema | I'd just go for it |
| 14:53 | cait | I am not sure what all is involved and how much this woudl disrupt workflows - so happy to just follow someone taking the lead really |
| 14:54 | tcohen | what would be the benefits compared to using Gitlab.com |
| 14:54 | cait | happy to help with wiki changes when triggered to do so |
| 14:54 | tcohen | is a good question |
| 14:54 | tuxayo | So #agree about renaming "master" to "main"? |
| 14:54 | cait | tcohen: isn't that a different topic? |
| 14:55 | tcohen | about mtj's comment, sorry |
| 14:55 | cait | oh right |
| 14:55 | tcohen | let's make a vote please |
| 14:55 | cait | tuxayo: yo or me? |
| 14:55 | tuxayo | ok |
| 14:55 | cait | you :) |
| 14:57 | tuxayo | #startvote Renaming master branch to main? Yes, No, Another name would be way better, Asbtain |
| 14:57 | huginn` | Begin voting on: Renaming master branch to main? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Another, name, would, be, way, better, Asbtain. |
| 14:57 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 14:57 | tuxayo | oh no |
| 14:57 | #endvote | |
| 14:57 | huginn` | Voted on "Renaming master branch to main?" Results are |
| 14:57 | cait | the typo in abstain? |
| 14:58 | tuxayo | #startvote Renaming master branch to main? Yes, No, Another_name_would_be_way_better, Abstain |
| 14:58 | huginn` | Begin voting on: Renaming master branch to main? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Another_name_would_be_way_better, Abstain. |
| 14:58 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 14:58 | tuxayo | Thanks cait |
| 14:58 | #vote yes | |
| 14:58 | cait | #vote Yes |
| 14:58 | tcohen | #vote Yes |
| 14:58 | thd | #vote Yes |
| 14:59 | ashimema | #vote Yes |
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| 15:00 | cait | tuxayo: got to step out for a moment |
| 15:00 | tuxayo | k |
| 15:00 | last seconds to vote | |
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| 15:01 | tcohen | bag, kidclamp, khall, lukeg |
| 15:02 | oleonard | #vote Yes |
| 15:03 | cait | end vote? |
| 15:03 | tuxayo | #endvote |
| 15:03 | huginn` | Voted on "Renaming master branch to main?" Results are |
| 15:03 | Yes (6): cait, oleonard, ashimema, tuxayo, tcohen, thd | |
| 15:04 | cait | we do have quite a bit more topics but are over time already |
| 15:04 | tuxayo | Last minute call to some people made me wait a bit :) |
| 15:04 | cait | coudl those be postponed or is there something that needs resolving urgently? |
| 15:04 | tuxayo | «how much this woudl disrupt workflows» |
| 15:04 | My guess is likely not much after fixing all CI jobs. Locally it's about reminding to checkout main instead of master and deleting the local master. Which might cause some submission of patches that don't apply due to people not knowing/forgetting the change. The RMaint scripts should be ok. | |
| 15:04 | mtj | tcohen: re gitlab versus self-hosted - im not too sure of differences |
| 15:04 | cait | my muscle memory will make this terrible for a whiel :) |
| 15:05 | (remembering to checkout main) | |
| 15:05 | tuxayo | #agreed Renaming master branch to main |
| 15:05 | cait | so about the next topics? |
| 15:05 | tuxayo | Who to volunteer to coordinate the change? |
| 15:05 | cait | aah right! |
| 15:06 | who is taking the hat? | |
| 15:06 | mtj | tcohen: gitlab may allow us to use more 'runners', but we might hit limitations with gitlab too |
| 15:06 | tcohen | I'm doing it |
| 15:06 | mtj | tcohen++ |
| 15:06 | tuxayo | tcohen++ |
| 15:07 | tcohen: action for next meeting to have a date for the switch and list of stuff to change on that moment? | |
| 15:07 | tcohen | yes |
| 15:08 | tuxayo | #action tcohen Date proposal for master→main change and draft of action list |
| 15:09 | last topic about the CI stuff and we postpone reste? | |
| 15:09 | cait | sounds good to me |
| 15:09 | unless ES7 is a simple yes or no :) | |
| 15:09 | mtj | no :) |
| 15:10 | tuxayo | It's about calling for volunteer to use it in production |
| 15:10 | «what would be the benefits compared to using Gitlab.com» | |
| 15:10 | This dates from the time it was uncertain for Gitlab.com | |
| 15:11 | If people are motivated switch to community hosted, why not. | |
| 15:11 | mtj | #info i think we should aim to have koha 22.11 with ES7, running on deb11 and higher |
| 15:12 | tcohen | +1 |
| 15:12 | cait | mtj: can you outline what is missing to achieve that? |
| 15:13 | mtj | cait: all tests are passing now, so just updating doco and announcements |
| 15:14 | tuxayo | I recall it was mentioned for ES 7 (and OpenSearch also I guess): A few instances using it in production to confirm nothing major is wrong. |
| 15:14 | tcohen | I've gotta leave to take kids to school. Just a last comment: I'm favor of completely deprecating a distro support for new releases if not doing so would drain our energies |
| 15:15 | *an old distro version support* | |
| 15:15 | mtj | perhaps we suggest ES6 on koha-22.05 with deb10 |
| 15:15 | cait | we found bug 31471 testing package installation and kohadevbox - not sure if it relates to version, but seemed a good time to get some attention :) |
| 15:15 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31471 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Duplicate check in cataloguing doesn't work with Elasticsearch |
| 15:16 | mtj | ...and we suggest ES7 on koha-22.11 with deb11 |
| 15:16 | cait | is there something we should #info? |
| 15:16 | bit lost on this topic | |
| 15:17 | tuxayo | mtj: I'm not sure there is that much choice for a lot of implementer that it's useful to suggest a precise conbination. |
| 15:17 | «is there something we should #info» | |
| 15:17 | Not yet, it's still unclear | |
| 15:18 | mtj | #info perhaps we suggest ES6 on koha-22.05 with deb10, and ES7 on koha-22.11 with deb11 |
| 15:18 | tuxayo | «we suggest ES6 on koha-22.05 with deb10» |
| 15:18 | ES 6 should be discouraged for all supported branches as soon as we announce ES 7 I think. Because ES 6 is not maintained since more than a year I think? | |
| 15:20 | 2022-02-10 actually | |
| 15:20 | mtj | #info good news is we do have ES7 tests passing on 22.05 and 21.11 |
| 15:21 | ashimema | dare I raise it.. but would switching from master to main also serve as a good juncture to finally carry out the repository split we've been considering for years |
| 15:21 | tuxayo | And down to 21.05 |
| 15:21 | ashimema: It doesn't look like it would help. Not much has to be done locally by people having repos. | |
| 15:23 | tcohen | ashimema: just got back upstairs with that thought LOL |
| 15:23 | tuxayo | mtj: Is that ok we aim to advertise ES7 for 22.11 release (and one all branches) and do it sooner if we get real world feedback. |
| 15:23 | ashimema | great minds |
| 15:24 | * tcohen | goes back downstairs |
| 15:24 | tuxayo | So that people that will stay stuck on 21.05 know that ES7 is supported in case of new ES security release. |
| 15:25 | mtj | tuxayo: sounds like a good plan to me |
| 15:26 | tuxayo | #info Advertise support for ES7 for all branches on 22.11 release. Or sooner if ES7 real world feedback is enough in the meantime. |
| 15:26 | ES7 topic closed | |
| 15:26 | cait | ok |
| 15:26 | tuxayo | CI seems also |
| 15:26 | cait | postpone mysql? |
| 15:26 | tuxayo | Yes, postpone all the rest |
| 15:27 | cait | ok :) |
| 15:27 | tuxayo | I'll do it |
| 15:27 | #action tuxayo postpone « Are we supporting MySQL? (either 5.7 or 8.0) - CI only tests MySQL 8 on main/master. » | |
| 15:27 | cait | we shold also check if the calendar has updated after the meeting script has been run |
| 15:27 | tuxayo++ | |
| 15:27 | tuxayo | #action tuxayo postpone « SQL8 of our coding guidelines state that SQL should not be in .pl, but should be in the module in C4 or Koha. This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed and there is no mention of DBIC in the coding guidelines right now. » |
| 15:28 | mtj | tuxayo: i think tcohen said mysql 5.x has some nasty autoincrement problems |
| 15:28 | tuxayo | #action tuxayo postpone «Update guidelines with the replacement of jQueryUI Datepicker with flatpickr - introduced in bug 29239. And document the usage in the wiki» |
| 15:28 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] Replace jQueryUI's timepicker with flatpickr |
| 15:28 | tuxayo | mtj: too late :P |
| 15:28 | cait | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 15:29 | 2 weeks wednesday? | |
| 15:29 | tuxayo | «we shold also check if the calendar has updated after the meeting script has been run» |
| 15:29 | I think David N had to update the calendar manually | |
| 15:29 | cait | 28 September 2022 |
| 15:29 | yeah, different people running the script had issues with it lately | |
| 15:29 | tuxayo | When is KohaCon again? |
| 15:29 | cait | next week |
| 15:29 | wahanui | next week is unknown for me. |
| 15:30 | cait | so that woudl be after |
| 15:30 | tuxayo | Ok 28 September then |
| 15:30 | Let me check the last meeting | |
| 15:30 | cait | wahanui: feeling the same way |
| 15:30 | wahanui | cait: i'm not following you... |
| 15:30 | cait | the problem is, if the meeting script doesn't finish, the wiki is not updated witht he meeting minutes either |
| 15:31 | tuxayo | #info Next meeting: 28 September 2022, 21 UTC |
| 15:31 | Wait before ending | |
| 15:31 | Next meeting at this timeframe 12 october 14 UTC? (same hour) | |
| 15:33 | Let's go with it for now | |
| 15:33 | #info Next Americas-Europe slot meeting: 12 October 2022, 14 UTC | |
| 15:33 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:33 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Sep 14 15:33:25 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:33 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-09-14-14.11.html | |
| 15:33 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-09-14-14.11.txt | |
| 15:33 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]14-14.11.log.html | |
| 15:33 | cait | hm hope that works in the format |
| 15:33 | tuxayo | Thanks all for attending |
| 15:33 | cait++ thanks for co chairing | |
| 15:33 | cait | yep thanks for attending :) |
| 15:34 | tcohen: can you run meeting script? | |
| 15:34 | tuxayo | «hm hope that works in the format» |
| 15:34 | The goal is to find it next meeting easily in the logs just to copy paste. | |
| 15:34 | Not for it to be parsed. | |
| 15:35 | Maybe that breaks stuff? ^^" | |
| 15:35 | cait | it does get parsed too :) |
| 15:35 | by the meetings script to create the new wiki page | |
| 15:36 | tuxayo | mtj: 5.7 there is still 1 year of upstream support but if no one asks for it we can not support it and even discourage it due to autoincrement issues. |
| 15:37 | «it does get parsed too :)» | |
| 15:37 | Ho this is bad, ok I'll use ##action to still have it but to not mess thing | |
| 15:39 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:51 | cait | bye all! |
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| 16:37 | oleonard | Sorry for missing 99% of the meeting, folks, pretty distracted here today |
| 17:38 | wajasu | nice democratic voting. rename master to main. just don't rename it ever again. i'm getting to old to have the rug pulled out from under me when I get to each repo to develop. |
| 17:39 | i did find a nice article that you can configure in yout git config what that master/main is called. | |
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| 18:17 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
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| 18:25 | thd | tcohen: This morning as the meeting was ending I discovered that while Canasta may have automatically set 'db' for a newly created database name it used mediawiki as a database name restored from a dump. The database connection problem which I had last night was for wrong database name. |
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| 19:00 | tuxayo | lukeg around? |
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| 22:04 | thd | tcohen: ElasticSearch indexing for the Wiki worked using 1 GB of RAM and reindexed the wiki in less than 5 min. inside the Canasta Docker container. |
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