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| 07:08 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:34 | matts | hi ! |
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| 07:44 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:52 | ashimema | morning |
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| 09:12 | fridolin1 | ashimema: yhello |
| 09:12 | Bug 26704 | |
| 09:12 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26704 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Koha::Item store triggers should utilise Koha::Object::Messages for message passing |
| 09:13 | fridolin1 | ashimema: could you validate the test suite fix ? |
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| 09:19 | fridolin1 | davidnind: yey NZ is in the place |
| 09:21 | davidnind | hi fridolin! |
| 09:26 | * cait1 | waves |
| 09:26 | davidnind | hi cait1! |
| 09:28 | ashimema | looks good to me fridolin1... could have swarn I'd run all the tests and fixed those exact issues |
| 09:28 | weird | |
| 09:28 | fridolin1 | ich |
| 09:28 | no problem ;) | |
| 09:28 | can you sign the patch ? i'll push to green jenkins | |
| 09:29 | ashimema | will do, just runing them |
| 09:31 | done | |
| 09:34 | fridolin1 | its a lot of copy paste but UT can be ugly i dont care ^^ |
| 09:35 | nlegrand | Bonjour ! |
| 09:39 | ashimema | hehe |
| 09:46 | ooh, dev meeting this morning | |
| 09:51 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 09:52 | Brooke | o/ |
| 09:55 | fridolin1 | yep, meeting in 5 min |
| 09:56 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_16_February_2022 | |
| 09:56 | tuxayo: around ? | |
| 09:59 | ashimema | I'm juggling two meetings for this one.. so bear with me 😉 |
| 10:00 | oleonard | *yawn* |
| 10:00 | ashimema | morning oleonard |
| 10:00 | huginn | News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 29579: Show saved SQL report ID in database query" <https://git.koha-community.org[…]a5f60d3bde38a3396> |
| 10:00 | News from kohagit: Bug 26704: (follow-up) Fix t/db_dependent/Koha/Items.t <https://git.koha-community.org[…]05171cffeb3afccbc> | |
| 10:01 | Brooke | Good morning, Owen. |
| 10:01 | fridolin1 | ah someone can chair the meeting ? i've never done |
| 10:02 | Brooke | Frido, I'll drive the bus if I have to, but I'm not up to speed |
| 10:02 | fridolin1 | ;) thanks a lot |
| 10:02 | take us to first stop | |
| 10:03 | Brooke | #startmeeting |
| 10:03 | huginn | Brooke: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' |
| 10:03 | Brooke | #Startmeeting Development Meeting |
| 10:03 | #startmeeting Development Meeting | |
| 10:03 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Feb 16 10:03:29 2022 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 10:03 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 10:03 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:03 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_meeting' |
| 10:03 | ashimema | Development IRC meeting 16 February 2022 |
| 10:03 | Brooke | Welcome everyone, time for #Introductions |
| 10:04 | ashimema | #link agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_16_February_2022 |
| 10:04 | Brooke | #topic introductions |
| 10:04 | Topic for #koha is now introductions (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:04 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 10:04 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK |
| 10:04 | fridolin1 | #Fridolin Somers, BibLibre, France |
| 10:04 | ashimema | only partially here I'm afraid |
| 10:04 | fridolin1, do you still count as 'in france' 😉 | |
| 10:04 | Brooke | ashimema, you're surely functioning better than I ;) |
| 10:05 | davidnind | #info David Nind, New Zealand |
| 10:05 | fridolin1 | I mean BibLibre is in France ^^ |
| 10:05 | oleonard | it's okay fridolin1 we won't come looking for you |
| 10:05 | fridolin1 | Katrin apologies (in wiki page) |
| 10:05 | sodesvaux | Solene Desvaux, Biblibre intern, France |
| 10:05 | fridolin1 | salutation collègue |
| 10:07 | Brooke | #info Announcements |
| 10:07 | it looks like we've a proposal from Koha-US for Conference | |
| 10:07 | fridolin1 | great news indeed |
| 10:07 | Brooke | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]#koha-US_Proposal |
| 10:07 | fridolin1 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]#koha-US_Proposal |
| 10:07 | There is still a vote running | |
| 10:08 | to decide full online or hybrid | |
| 10:08 | result 1 march | |
| 10:08 | Event for end septembre | |
| 10:09 | davidnind | Excellent! |
| 10:09 | fridolin1 | i'd love to travel to US again |
| 10:09 | Brooke | #topic Koha Conference |
| 10:09 | Topic for #koha is now Koha Conference (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:10 | oleonard | The proposed location, Lawrence KS, is where I grew up! And it's the absolute middle of nowhere. |
| 10:10 | Brooke | anything else for the record for the US Conference bid? |
| 10:10 | oleonard | It's a lovely little university town, though |
| 10:11 | Brooke | #topic RM's update |
| 10:11 | Topic for #koha is now RM's update (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:11 | fridolin1 | yey |
| 10:12 | i try to keep pushing rythme | |
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| 10:12 | fridolin1 | Jenkins should come green right now |
| 10:12 | Work in staff interface to replace jQueryUI with Bootstrap, see Bug 29222 and children | |
| 10:12 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29222 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OMNIBUS: Replace the use of jQueryUI |
| 10:12 | fridolin1 | oleonard++ |
| 10:13 | ashimema | 🙂 |
| 10:13 | oleonard | This will go more slowly than the datepicker replacement |
| 10:13 | Brooke | #help UI replacement of jquery with Bootstrap |
| 10:14 | fridolin1 | I point it so new enhancements take this into acount |
| 10:14 | ashimema | load me up for testing/qaing those oleonard |
| 10:14 | I'm on board with that project | |
| 10:14 | oleonard | I'm working on testing out an autocomplete replacement which should be ready to show soon. |
| 10:14 | Brooke | ashimema++ |
| 10:14 | oleonard++ | |
| 10:14 | oleonard | #link Autocomplete library: https://tarekraafat.github.io/autoComplete.js/ |
| 10:15 | fridolin1 | great, UI changes are always a good sign for a new version |
| 10:16 | alohabot | 🎁 🙊 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ... 🍱 🍠 🍒 |
| 10:16 | fridolin1 | but underground changes are also important |
| 10:16 | i see a line in wiki : Share proposal for staff interface redesign (oleonard, paul_p, lukeg, caroline, etc.) | |
| 10:16 | not from me i think | |
| 10:17 | Brooke | #topic Staff UI redesign |
| 10:17 | Topic for #koha is now Staff UI redesign (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:17 | Brooke | take it away Owen |
| 10:17 | oleonard | I added that at the last minute yesterday |
| 10:17 | fridolin1 | ah ok |
| 10:18 | oleonard | As I hope you all know, Paul has proposed a redesign of the staff interface, and has hired a designer to do the work |
| 10:18 | Brooke | the committee is trying to walk the fine line betwixt having something to share and not sharing too much too soon |
| 10:18 | oleonard | A group of us has been meeting to talk about the designer's proposals |
| 10:18 | fridolin1 | I see there is a mail in koha-devel "Staff interface redesign: Update" |
| 10:19 | * oleonard | is looking for the links... |
| 10:19 | Brooke | #info Thibault Petit has been recruited to assist with the redesign |
| 10:19 | oleonard | Ah, here: https://docs.google.com/presen[…]Vy0/edit#slide=id.g1155f3a071f_0_43 |
| 10:19 | Brooke | #info Biblibre is generously paying for at least a portion of the effort |
| 10:20 | #link https://docs.google.com/presen[…]Vy0/edit#slide=id.g1155f3a071f_0_43 | |
| 10:20 | fridolin1 | We french like fashion ;) |
| 10:20 | oleonard | Solene (sodesvaux here) will be working on the implementation |
| 10:21 | Brooke | sodesvaux++ |
| 10:21 | ashimema | 🙂 |
| 10:21 | oleonard | The scope of the redesign is limited to *mostly* style changes |
| 10:22 | Global include files are included in possible structural changes, but other templates are not because of the extensive revisions required | |
| 10:22 | * fridolin1 | says wahoooo |
| 10:23 | oleonard | We're bringing this particular design proposal because we (me, Brooke, paul_p, caroline, sodesvaux, lukeg) think this is the best option we've seen. |
| 10:23 | ashimema | are there plans to create a style guide to adhere to ? |
| 10:23 | Brooke | uniformity and consistency of the interface during implementation might be a bit of a sticky wicket |
| 10:23 | ashimema | I'd love some additional clear guidance for devs |
| 10:23 | Brooke | that is an excellent point, ashimema |
| 10:24 | oleonard | ashimema: We are expecting some visual documentation from Thibault |
| 10:24 | ashimema | okies |
| 10:25 | oleonard | ashimema: Does Mark Gavillet have an irc username? He's been in the meetings as well. |
| 10:25 | ashimema | anywhere we can de-duplicate/simplify UI elements is a win to me... |
| 10:25 | he's not around here much | |
| 10:25 | he was velvetanchovy once upon a time | |
| 10:26 | but I don't think he's really an irc person | |
| 10:26 | oleonard | I hope you all are looking through those slides right now. |
| 10:26 | * ashimema | is |
| 10:27 | oleonard | Besides color changes, one of the biggest differences in the proposal is the collapsing of the resident search header tabs into a smaller area in the header menu |
| 10:27 | Slide 11 shows the default and "clicked" state of that | |
| 10:27 | fridolin1 | great |
| 10:28 | (I have a very small screen) | |
| 10:28 | Brooke | (but very large impact) |
| 10:29 | oleonard | Our tentative plan, if there are no objections here, is to share these slides with the koha general mailing list next |
| 10:30 | fridolin1 | no objection |
| 10:30 | Brooke | #action shall we share the slides with Koha General? |
| 10:30 | davidnind | Looking very positive! |
| 10:31 | ashimema | I'd say go for it |
| 10:31 | Brooke | tapez maintenant or forever hold your peas ;) |
| 10:31 | oleonard | We are trying to bring a strong proposal as an "official" recommendation to get feedback that hopefully won't devolve into endless nitpicking. |
| 10:31 | BUT we also want to hear any objections, because we know we are a small committee | |
| 10:31 | Brooke | It is safe to say that we welcome feedback but we do not welcome hair splitting |
| 10:32 | davidnind | +10 |
| 10:32 | ashimema | silly question.. has RTL been considered? |
| 10:32 | Brooke | I can speak for myself in saying that I am more than happy to have folks approach me with comments either here or over email or another forum |
| 10:33 | * ashimema | isn't sure how that might affect things like 'readability of the all screen from the top-left to bottom right' |
| 10:33 | oleonard | There are a lot of implementation decisions still to be made, and as Brooke mentioned the process of getting these changes approved will result in interface inconsistencies as patches are pushed gradually |
| 10:33 | ashimema | indeed |
| 10:33 | I really like what you've brought to the table here | |
| 10:33 | and I think the right core group is involved.. great work :0 | |
| 10:34 | Brooke | It's hard to go wrong when Owen and Paul have joined forces |
| 10:34 | oleonard | Would y'all like to have a round of discussion on the devel list before taking it to koha-general? |
| 10:34 | Brooke | so I haven't heard any objections so far. Is that a fair characterisation? |
| 10:35 | oleonard | I think at least a message to koha-general should wait a day or 3 while others who might have been at this meeting get a look at the slides. |
| 10:35 | Brooke | aye |
| 10:36 | I was going to suggest that we send a mail to the list, stew until Saturdayish, then close by Tuesday so we can have summat for the next meeting Tuesday | |
| 10:36 | ashimema | sounds good to me |
| 10:36 | davidnind | +1 |
| 10:36 | fridolin1 | +1 |
| 10:37 | oleonard | Great, thanks everyone! |
| 10:37 | davidnind | very exciting! |
| 10:37 | Brooke | #info Next step: Send a message to General, wait 'til Saturday, return feedback to Committee by Tuesday |
| 10:37 | #topic Release Maintainer update | |
| 10:37 | Topic for #koha is now Release Maintainer update (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:38 | fridolin1 | rmaints |
| 10:39 | oleonard | All sleeping? |
| 10:39 | fridolin1 | tuxayo is not a morning-fan |
| 10:40 | This month release should by around 22 since its in the middle of the week | |
| 10:40 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:40 | Project Koha_Master_D11_CPAN build #533: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_D11_CPAN/533/ | |
| 10:41 | fridolin1 | For 21.05 there is Bug 28832 to pick |
| 10:41 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28832 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , [21.05] Batch modification always clears permanent_location if it is mapped in frameworks |
| 10:43 | Brooke | beurk! |
| 10:43 | fridolin1 | we may continue |
| 10:43 | Brooke | #topic QA Team update |
| 10:43 | Topic for #koha is now QA Team update (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:44 | fridolin1 | cait1: a quick message ? |
| 10:44 | Brooke | she has a meeting conflict, alas |
| 10:44 | ashimema | I've been concentrating on testing/qaing some of the bigger things this week |
| 10:44 | will get back to moving the queue next week | |
| 10:45 | as ever, we need more people to keep on top of the queues.. 😉 | |
| 10:45 | we're not in a terrible place.. 88 in the queue, 26 of which are bugs | |
| 10:45 | Brooke | #help More bug testers are always welcome |
| 10:46 | ashimema | the NSO queue is high though.. 276 |
| 10:47 | Brooke | okay then moving along |
| 10:47 | ashimema | Joubu is working on some fun things right now.. lots of API based improvements |
| 10:47 | Brooke | joubu++ |
| 10:48 | shall we do the roadmap project update then? | |
| 10:49 | #topic Roadmap Projects Status Update | |
| 10:49 | Topic for #koha is now Roadmap Projects Status Update (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:49 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U21 build #90: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U21/90/ |
| 10:49 | * ashimema | hasn't been following the roadmap yet this cycle |
| 10:49 | ashimema | oops |
| 10:50 | fridolin1 | ich i've not yet build something |
| 10:50 | topics from previous cycle are still on the table | |
| 10:52 | i'll soon work on roadmap cause we are around midtime of release | |
| 10:53 | Brooke | wonderful. |
| 10:53 | there's no olde business excepting myself | |
| 10:54 | #topic General Development Discussion | |
| 10:54 | Topic for #koha is now General Development Discussion (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 10:55 | Brooke | any cool ideas? |
| 10:55 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:55 | Project Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest build #797: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]1_MDB_Latest/797/ | |
| 10:55 | fridolin1 | rewrite in PHP ? |
| 10:55 | XD | |
| 10:56 | * oleonard | doesn't even know what the new hotness is, but knows it isn't PHP |
| 10:56 | fridolin1 | NodeJS ? |
| 10:56 | davidnind | rust, possibly not python.. |
| 10:56 | ashimema | Rust |
| 10:56 | hehe | |
| 10:56 | fridolin1 | We skipped several revolution |
| 10:58 | Brooke | does anyone have a burning desire to discuss development trends? |
| 10:58 | davidnind | at work they recently tuned off the mainframe, everything was written in cobol (nearly a 30 year old system) |
| 10:58 | Brooke | better than high performance FORTRAN I suppose ;) |
| 10:59 | fridolin1 | RIP |
| 10:59 | Brooke | #topic Review of Coding Guidelines |
| 10:59 | Topic for #koha is now Review of Coding Guidelines (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 11:00 | davidnind | they did spend 1.5 ish billion (NZ dollars) though... |
| 11:01 | fridolin1 | Add a rule for Bug 29844 |
| 11:01 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove uses of wantarray in Koha::Objects |
| 11:01 | ashimema | ? |
| 11:01 | nice | |
| 11:02 | fridolin1 | I mean more Bug 29859 |
| 11:02 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29859 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Favor iterators over as_list |
| 11:02 | ashimema | excellent, thanks |
| 11:02 | * ashimema | just mis-read that |
| 11:02 | ashimema | yes.. we should add one |
| 11:02 | fridolin1 | add use get_column |
| 11:02 | ashimema | also perhaps one for the wantarray removal too.. to make sure new one's don't creep in |
| 11:03 | fridolin1 | this could be in QA tools ? |
| 11:03 | ashimema | we should also document, from tcohens email probably, when to use as_list and how the change affects how you can use variables in notices and other templates |
| 11:03 | tcohen | good morning |
| 11:03 | fridolin1 | tcohen: welcome |
| 11:04 | tcohen | I thought the meeting was 3 hours ago |
| 11:04 | Brooke | good morning |
| 11:04 | tcohen | Brooke! |
| 11:04 | Brooke | there was a change of meeting time |
| 11:05 | fridolin1 | tcohen: ah but previous time was in 4 hours |
| 11:05 | now your there ;) | |
| 11:05 | tcohen | I guess I got it all wrong ha |
| 11:05 | fridolin1 | we talk guide lines with Bug 29859 |
| 11:06 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 11:06 | Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #379: FIXED in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_U_Stable/379/ | |
| 11:06 | fridolin1 | could you write something ? |
| 11:06 | ashimema | we agreed to re-write koha in rust tcohen |
| 11:06 | tcohen | anyone raised concerns about calling .count many times on tmeplates? |
| 11:06 | ashimema | I haven't here |
| 11:06 | but there is my bug about that for discussion | |
| 11:06 | * ashimema | is back to juggling meetings |
| 11:07 | tcohen | ok, I can write some thing, fridolin |
| 11:07 | fridolin1 | thanks a lot |
| 11:07 | Brooke | tcohen++ |
| 11:08 | * ashimema | can't find the bug number.. grr |
| 11:09 | Brooke | okay last item on the agenda is to set a time for next meeting |
| 11:09 | #topic Next Meeting | |
| 11:09 | Topic for #koha is now Next Meeting (Meeting topic: Development Meeting) | |
| 11:09 | ashimema | bug 30017 |
| 11:10 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30017 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Should we prefer `loop.first` and `loop.last` over calling `variable.count` to reduce our DB hits |
| 11:10 | ashimema | that was it.. but it can wait for next meeting at this point.. |
| 11:10 | fridolin1 | there is general meeting on March 2 |
| 11:11 | do we add dev meeting also ? else it is March 16 | |
| 11:11 | oleonard | Not the 9th? |
| 11:12 | fridolin1 | ok 9th is good |
| 11:12 | ashimema | sounds ok to me |
| 11:13 | Brooke | any conflicts with 9 March? |
| 11:13 | ashimema | oh, we didn't mention hackfest.. hopefully some people will be there |
| 11:13 | fridolin1 | mmm no it is end march |
| 11:13 | starts on March 28 | |
| 11:13 | ashimema | sorry.. yes.. not a clash |
| 11:13 | fridolin1 | ah sure |
| 11:13 | I'll be there ! | |
| 11:14 | Brooke | specific time for 9 March anyone? |
| 11:14 | fridolin1 | i'd like to keep 10AM |
| 11:14 | oleonard | Whose? :) |
| 11:14 | ashimema | utc |
| 11:14 | I think | |
| 11:14 | fridolin1 | general meeting is kept at 15PM |
| 11:15 | yep UTC | |
| 11:15 | Brooke | so we're settled for 9 Mar 10 UTC |
| 11:15 | ? | |
| 11:15 | ashimema | perfec |
| 11:16 | fridolin1 | super giga |
| 11:16 | Brooke | #info Next Meeting is 9 Mar 10 UTC |
| 11:16 | #endmeeting | |
| 11:16 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 11:16 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Feb 16 11:16:23 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 11:16 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-02-16-10.03.html | |
| 11:16 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-02-16-10.03.txt | |
| 11:16 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]16-10.03.log.html | |
| 11:16 | oleonard | Brooke++ |
| 11:16 | Thanks very much for chairing | |
| 11:16 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 11:16 | Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #747: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D11_My8/747/ | |
| 11:16 | Brooke | bus driving once a decade is literally the least I can do |
| 11:17 | fridolin1 | Brooke++ |
| 11:17 | davidnind | Brooke++ |
| 11:17 | Brooke | y'all are going to make me blush |
| 11:17 | fridolin1 | i will learn the commands or make a cheat sheet |
| 11:18 | oleonard | Like falling off a horse. |
| 11:18 | davidnind | there is one: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Chairing_meetings |
| 11:19 | fridolin1 | i'm gooing to ... infinity and behond |
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| 11:21 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 11:21 | Project Koha_Master build #1915: FIXED in 1 hr 17 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1915/ | |
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| 11:34 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1875: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1875/ |
| 11:47 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 11:47 | Project Koha_Master_U20 build #302: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U20/302/ | |
| 11:52 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
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| 12:15 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
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| 12:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #531: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/531/ |
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| 13:52 | oleonard | I'm not sure if Bug 30074 isn't working of if I'm testing wrong... |
| 13:52 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30074 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Missing extended_attributes relationship in DBIC schema |
| 13:57 | ashimema | I tested it in conjunction with bug 30055 oleonard |
| 13:57 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Rewrite some of the patron searches to make them use the REST API routes |
| 13:58 | ashimema | seemed to work as expected to me |
| 13:58 | * ashimema | was waiting for someone to SO it so I could QA ;) |
| 13:59 | ashimema | have you looked at 30055 at all oleonard? |
| 13:59 | oleonard | I was trying to get the dependencies, but I'm looking at 30055 now. |
| 13:59 | ashimema | I'm interested to get your perspective on the UX changes it introduces.. |
| 13:59 | hehe | |
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| 14:13 | kohaguy | hello guys, I am just curios about notices/slips, how can I link print button of specific slip into somewhere on page? or how can I make it run automatically? for example I want to make notice "HOLDPLACED" active for instant printing, right after patron places a hold (Koha only supports sending email) |
| 14:15 | oleonard | kohaguy: You want the patron to be able to print a slip from the OPAC after they place a hold? |
| 14:22 | kohaguy | hello, no |
| 14:22 | when patron places a hold in OPAC, his hold request should start to print automatically in library | |
| 14:24 | and my question is if its possible to make this with "HOLDPLACED" slip in Koha | |
| 14:24 | it works with an e-mail adress | |
| 14:24 | but there is no print option by default | |
| 14:27 | tcohen | I don't think that functionality is present right now |
| 14:43 | oleonard | kidclamp around? |
| 14:43 | kidclamp | rounder and rounder all the time |
| 14:44 | oleonard | Somehow I doubt it |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | there's a lot of candy in this house |
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| 14:54 | tcohen | hahaha |
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| 15:01 | cait1 | i think holdplaced DOES go out automatically to the library |
| 15:01 | oh... scroll down cat | |
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| 15:06 | domm | can anybody explain to me how the ElasticSearch sort strings are constructed? In the Search Mappings various fields/subfields are mapped to search terms, and some have sortable=yes; but in which order are those fields added to the string that ends up in e.g. the ES field "title__sort"? |
| 15:07 | or should I just dig through the source code? | |
| 15:10 | kidclamp | I believe we through the record in order and index in order |
| 15:10 | but the best practice would be to only mark one marc field as sortable per ES field | |
| 15:14 | I think multiple create an array and ES will sort that...unpredicatably | |
| 15:15 | cait1 | kidclamp++ :) |
| 15:15 | tcohen | @later tell kohaguy take a look at this https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]lugin-print-holds |
| 15:15 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:15 | tcohen | khall++ |
| 15:17 | domm | kidclamp: ok, thanks, that makes sense |
| 15:18 | but the default mappings (at least the ones we got with this install, which I think was based on 20.05) have serveral sortable marc fields per ES field | |
| 15:18 | and we assumed that the defaults are sane - classic mistake :-) | |
| 15:29 | tcohen | why would you think that, domm? haha |
| 15:29 | kidclamp | There may be cases where you want several, because you don't expect a record to have more than one of the field defined |
| 15:32 | ashimema | oleonard.. could you claify where you mean regards your comment on bug 30055? |
| 15:32 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Rewrite some of the patron searches to make them use the REST API routes |
| 15:32 | ashimema | I'll try to reproduce it |
| 15:32 | oleonard | For searches that are limited to users with particular privileges, like searching for a manager for a fund |
| 15:32 | I get an error in the console | |
| 15:35 | ashimema | ta |
| 15:36 | I can replicate that.. will take a look | |
| 15:36 | * ashimema | happened to pick a non-limited search for his initial testing it seems |
| 15:37 | cait1 | bye all |
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| 15:39 | ashimema | well.. the fix is easy.. but it breaks some other stuff |
| 15:41 | oh.. that gives a really fun error | |
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| 15:44 | ashimema | just attaching a follow-up patch for you oleonard |
| 15:44 | should mean you can continue testing | |
| 15:45 | make sure you've run the dbic updates though.. else you'll hit another error straight after | |
| 15:45 | Joubu | ho right, thanks ashimema |
| 15:46 | ashimema | no worries Joubu.. if we can strike to keep this one moving whilst people are testing.. I'm all happy 🙂 |
| 15:46 | Joubu | it's missing from other routes as well |
| 15:46 | +/acquisitions/funds/owners | |
| 15:46 | +/acquisitions/funds/users | |
| 15:47 | +/suggestions/managers | |
| 15:47 | ashimema | had a feeling it might be |
| 15:47 | Joubu | Can you redo your patch your the 2 missing routes? |
| 15:47 | ashimema | sure |
| 15:52 | done | |
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| 15:54 | Joubu | ashimema: I copied in a comment part of the discussion we had yesterday, about the problems I found with your follow-up |
| 15:54 | ashimema | sure |
| 15:55 | I couldn't replicate the problems you showed me | |
| 15:55 | whatever combination of searches all worked as expected for me | |
| 15:55 | but each to their own | |
| 15:55 | personally.. I'm still not entirely sure about the UX of having multiple 'Search' fields scattered around the page.. | |
| 15:56 | I'm hoping others will weight in on that though.. I don't want it to just be a dev opinion.. want to see some UX chops look at it.. or a librarian. | |
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| 15:56 | oleonard | I agree. I think we should have a subset of DT features in these popup windows |
| 15:58 | Joubu | which features should we remove? |
| 15:58 | ashimema | I do however, like the general direction it's going |
| 15:59 | well.. I like the 'filter by lastname', but I'm not a fan of the header row filtering or the search box that appears with the datatable | |
| 15:59 | I think if you have a 'Search' box up front and centre at the top there's shouldn't be a second one.. | |
| 15:59 | Joubu | IMO we should have the column filter on all our DT |
| 15:59 | it's so powerful | |
| 15:59 | and you can really refine your search | |
| 16:00 | ashimema | it's also not entirely clear your searching then searching again on the subset |
| 16:00 | Joubu | and they don't take much space |
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| 16:00 | ashimema | hmm |
| 16:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:31 | Joubu | ashimema: around? |
| 16:34 | dude your patch is buggy, please don't unobsolete it | |
| 16:34 | ashimema | kill it then |
| 16:35 | Joubu | ashimema: https://staff-bug30055.sandbox[…]5&category_type=C |
| 16:35 | add guarantor | |
| 16:35 | then follow the screenshot I added in my last comment | |
| 16:38 | * ashimema | is working on other things right now |
| 16:38 | ashimema | just drop the patch if you feel it's wrong |
| 16:39 | we will need to continue refining this anyway | |
| 16:39 | Joubu | I did, you re-added it, I removed it again now |
| 16:39 | tcohen | can I re-add it ? :-P |
| 16:39 | Joubu | no but you can test on the sandbox |
| 16:39 | that it's buggy | |
| 16:40 | tcohen | it showed an empty yellow box the first time I hit it |
| 16:40 | Joubu | on master as well |
| 16:41 | tcohen | it works like a charm, not sure what bug I'm looking at |
| 16:41 | Joubu | last comment on the bug |
| 16:41 | 30055 | |
| 16:43 | tcohen | the sandbox works great for me |
| 16:43 | I guess you removed it already | |
| 16:45 | ashimema | time for others to step in.. |
| 16:45 | I'm checking out on this bug for a bit | |
| 16:45 | Joubu | tcohen: follow this, carefully please |
| 16:45 | https://staff-bug30055.sandbox[…]5&category_type=C | |
| 16:45 | click add guarantor | |
| 16:45 | Search "ed" | |
| 16:45 | then you add "ed" in the general search of the DT | |
| 16:45 | => You see edna | |
| 16:46 | then you add "ed" in "Name" | |
| 16:46 | => No more edna | |
| 16:46 | tcohen | ok |
| 16:46 | Joubu | that's wrong |
| 16:46 | tcohen | before I forget |
| 16:46 | Joubu | it's exactly what my comment said... |
| 16:46 | tcohen | add some (300ms?) delay between typing and generating the table refresh |
| 16:46 | when I type ed I get two API queries | |
| 16:47 | Joubu | that's DT wrapper behaviour |
| 16:47 | tcohen | now, following your test steps |
| 16:47 | works for me | |
| 16:47 | https://snipboard.io/v3QdJC.jpg | |
| 16:48 | Joubu | please follow the step carefully |
| 16:48 | you are missing the second step | |
| 16:48 | or you forgot to include it in your screenshot | |
| 16:49 | 1. "ed" in "search" at the TOP of the table | |
| 16:49 | click search | |
| 16:49 | tcohen | haha |
| 16:49 | Joubu | 2. "ed" in the GLOBAL search of DT |
| 16:49 | tcohen | 'general search' I thought it was the main one |
| 16:49 | Joubu | 3. "ed" in "Name" |
| 16:49 | tcohen | I think there are too many search boxes |
| 16:49 | Joubu | you are all driving me crazy guys |
| 16:49 | it's not the main one | |
| 16:50 | tcohen | yeah, I got it |
| 16:50 | and reproduced correclty | |
| 16:50 | is counter-intuitive | |
| 16:50 | Joubu | at the top we are searching on the "standard" patron fields |
| 16:50 | ashimema | this kinda highlights my point regarding 'Search' + 'Search' being a bad thing |
| 16:50 | Joubu | there is a syspref for that |
| 16:51 | the search from the "global dt" is the behaviour we have in all our DT: search on ALL the data in the table | |
| 16:51 | tcohen | right |
| 16:51 | Joubu | the search at the top is the "search this term in the 'standard' patrons fields" (name, userid, ext attributes) |
| 16:51 | tcohen | and the thing here, is how we can handle several q params? |
| 16:52 | Joubu | that's to prevent a regression, and a bug ashimema found yesterday |
| 16:52 | tcohen | with a global AND? |
| 16:52 | Joubu | tcohen: this bug is fixed! |
| 16:52 | ashimema's patch is adding this bug | |
| 16:52 | I am just showing that the patch is buggy, and why I obsoleted it | |
| 16:53 | now I am creating a new sandbox, without the patch | |
| 16:53 | tcohen | question for you, Joubu |
| 16:54 | so the 'main search' would be setting a 'default search' on the DT, then you add more queries | |
| 16:54 | somehow? | |
| 16:54 | Joubu | The idea is: first you search for something, then you refine using the DT filters |
| 16:54 | what is main search? | |
| 16:55 | tcohen | lets call the big search form on the top the 'main search' |
| 16:55 | it is a pattern that we have everywhere | |
| 16:55 | Joubu | and the "DT global search" |
| 16:55 | ok | |
| 16:55 | tcohen | sometimes on the left but same thing |
| 16:55 | Joubu | yes, what I did on 30063 for the main patron search |
| 16:55 | tcohen | 'DT search' and 'column search' |
| 16:55 | Joubu | yes |
| 16:55 | so you have your filters, without the table displayed | |
| 16:55 | you search for something | |
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| 16:56 | Joubu | then you add more filters using the DT filters (global or column) |
| 16:56 | tcohen | sounds good, question |
| 16:56 | Joubu | if you want to reset the first/main filters, you empty the input and click "search" |
| 16:56 | tcohen | are you adding more q= params, somehow? |
| 16:56 | Joubu | no, I am adding more stuff to q |
| 16:57 | tcohen | (we can add a reset button) |
| 16:57 | so you are manipulating the q | |
| 16:57 | Joubu | there is a reset button added by 30066 |
| 16:57 | 30063* | |
| 16:57 | tcohen | awesome |
| 16:57 | Joubu | https://staff-bb30055.sandboxe[…]&borrowernumber=5 |
| 16:57 | tcohen | is the q manipulation avoidable? |
| 16:57 | Joubu | this is the sandbox that is working (so without the prevous bug) |
| 16:58 | https://staff-bb30055.sandboxe[…]5&category_type=C | |
| 16:58 | this link | |
| 16:58 | lol the bug is there | |
| 17:01 | this is not exactly the test I did yesterday | |
| 17:01 | I hadn't "ed" in the main search, a pattern that matched an extended attributes | |
| 17:01 | but* | |
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| 17:03 | tcohen | you need to avoid tweaking the query |
| 17:04 | doing GET /patrons?q={"name":{"-like":"%ed%"}&q={"name":{"-like":"%ed%"} | |
| 17:04 | should do the right thing | |
| 17:05 | will take a look tomorrow for sure | |
| 17:05 | Joubu | I am getting so f confused |
| 17:05 | there are bugs, with both versions apparently | |
| 17:05 | tcohen: yes, please. ashimema and I burnt on that already, we need a fresh brain to burn | |
| 17:06 | tcohen: the problem is the ext attributes. They must be part of the OR from the main search | |
| 17:06 | the we add more AND to the original query | |
| 17:06 | I should have written selenium tests today but had to take my day off | |
| 17:07 | will try to provide them tomorrow. We need UI tests to cover all the different use cases, it's a mess to test manually | |
| 17:07 | tcohen | ok, I'll take a good g&t tonight and start fresh tomorrow :-D |
| 17:08 | ashimema | 🙂 |
| 17:10 | tcohen | Joubu++ # really happy with this you're doing |
| 17:10 | ashimema++ | |
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| 17:13 | Joubu | tcohen: to test, keep in mind that the main search is searching on the "standard patron attributes" AND the extended attributes |
| 17:15 | tcohen | right |
| 17:15 | Joubu | ha, and there is the "first letter filter" that is adding more fun |
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| 21:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 30082: Bibliographic details tab missing when user can't add local cover image <https://git.koha-community.org[…]946a7c4ba763d3083> | |
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