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| 00:07 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #713: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D11_My8/713/ |
| 00:15 | Project Koha_Master_U21 build #47: UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U21/47/ | |
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| 00:25 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #342: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_U_Stable/342/ |
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| 01:40 | mtj | Joubu: aah, i saw the other ML email from dfliddle, about json-val :) |
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| 07:23 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:28 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:51 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:59 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 08:35 | marcelr | bugzilla a bit slow? |
| 08:35 | 504 | |
| 08:40 | cait1 | gateway timeout, I just noticed here too |
| 08:40 | I contacted rangi, but not sure, it's already a little late there | |
| 08:41 | dfliddle | mtj: Good morning from Germany, and thank you for the tip given on the ML about libjson-validator-perl. Worked perfectly! Joubu: Thank you again for the help yesterday! |
| 08:43 | * cait1 | waves from Germany too :) |
| 08:52 | cait1 | marcelr: some bots |
| 08:54 | Joubu | bug 12345?? |
| 08:56 | marcelr | well no response yet |
| 08:56 | bad bots | |
| 08:56 | cait1 | he is on it |
| 08:56 | marcelr | great |
| 08:56 | cait1 | btw new strings on translate |
| 08:59 | it should be recovering now | |
| 09:00 | It was an IP for orex.es that has been blocked now | |
| 09:04 | marcelr | yes great |
| 09:04 | rangi++ | |
| 09:04 | cait++ | |
| 09:05 | cait1++ | |
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| 10:28 | oleonard | o/ |
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| 11:31 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 11:37 | rangi++ | |
| 11:37 | rangi++ # SSL on paste | |
| 11:38 | oleonard | Nice |
| 11:45 | cait1 | rangi++ |
| 11:45 | anyone has seen a InvalidStateError: A mutation operation was attempted on a database that did not allow mutations error with the KOCT (offline circ) plugin? | |
| 11:46 | they are using Firefox 95.0 | |
| 11:47 | Joubu | certainly a covid thing again |
| 11:49 | ashimema | Lol |
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| 12:27 | tcohen | @seen marcelr |
| 12:27 | huginn` | tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <marcelr> cait1++ |
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| 12:47 | * cait1 | wave |
| 12:47 | cait1 | s |
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| 12:48 | cait1 | tcohen: did you encounter the following error in KOCT by chance? (and fixed it...) InvalidStateError: A mutation operation was attempted on a database that did not allow mutations |
| 12:48 | I found that IndexedDB doesn't work in private mode/tabs, but we ruled that out for now | |
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| 13:51 | Joubu | oleonard: hope you will like bug 29648 :) |
| 13:51 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29648 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Make KohaTable tables 'default length' and 'default sort' configurable |
| 13:52 | oleonard | Sounds good Joubu I'll test! |
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| 14:03 | cait1 | tcohen: still around? |
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| 15:03 | oleonard | kidclamp: around? |
| 15:03 | kidclamp | indeed |
| 15:03 | oleonard | I'm looking again at Bug 29686 |
| 15:03 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29686 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Adapt OverDrive for new fulfillment API |
| 15:03 | kidclamp | any issues? |
| 15:05 | oleonard | No, and I thought I had a question but after looking again I guess I don't. I'm making a habit of getting people's attention for no reason. |
| 15:05 | Next time I'll just wear a flamboyant hat instead. | |
| 15:05 | kidclamp | it's nice to be noticed anyways ;-) |
| 15:06 | bug 29706 could use your developer eye - I suspect I added a button where a link is better, and also all that html is weird | |
| 15:06 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29706 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , When placing a request on the opac, the user is shown titles they cannot place a hold on |
| 15:07 | oleonard | Uh oh... http://127.0.0.1:8080/cgi-bin/koha/[object%20Object] |
| 15:08 | kidclamp | hmmm..from where? |
| 15:08 | oleonard | I checked out a book and tried to click the "Access online ebook-overdrive" button |
| 15:08 | ...In OverDrive search results | |
| 15:08 | kidclamp | oh, yeah, you shouldn't get that button |
| 15:08 | looking | |
| 15:10 | oleonard | Oh wait sorry wrong branch |
| 15:10 | I was switching back and forth. | |
| 15:10 | kidclamp | heh |
| 15:10 | oleonard | All good. |
| 15:12 | Somehow I never knew "The Lair of the White Worm" was a book by Bram Stoker, I thought it was just an absolutely unhinged 1988 movie staring a young Hugh Grant. | |
| 15:12 | * oleonard | always looks for "always available" titles to test OverDrive checkouts with |
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| 15:58 | * cait1 | waves |
| 15:58 | cait1 | davidnind: here for the meeting |
| 16:00 | davidnind | he is awake this time! |
| 16:00 | hi aude_c | |
| 16:00 | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 16 December 2021 | |
| 16:00 | huginn` | Meeting started Thu Dec 16 16:00:45 2021 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 16:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 16:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 16 December 2021) | |
| 16:00 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_16_december_2021' |
| 16:00 | aude_c | hi davidnind :) |
| 16:00 | davidnind | #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eeting_2021-12-16 |
| 16:01 | great to have you as part of the team! | |
| 16:01 | #topic Introductions | |
| 16:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 16 December 2021) | |
| 16:01 | davidnind | #info David Nind, New Zealand |
| 16:01 | aude_c | thanks; excited to be here! |
| 16:01 | cait1 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 16:01 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK (lurking on his day off) |
| 16:01 | aude_c | #info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK |
| 16:02 | davidnind | ashimema: dedicated! |
| 16:02 | ashimema | :) |
| 16:02 | aude_c | ashimema: wondered what you were doing here! ;) |
| 16:03 | cait1 | I am tempted to send him off to have fun... but worry a little where he'd end up :) |
| 16:03 | ashimema | Reminder came through whilst the was on the school run ;-) |
| 16:03 | davidnind | #topic Review of action points |
| 16:03 | Topic for #koha is now Review of action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 16 December 2021) | |
| 16:03 | davidnind | There are no action points! |
| 16:03 | cait1 | Fresh start :) |
| 16:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:04 | ashimema | Action is to make lots of actions |
| 16:05 | cait1 | are we supposed to create them now? :) |
| 16:05 | davidnind | But I will go through the last few (from earlier in 2021 and late 2020) and add any still current or relevant to Bugzilla |
| 16:06 | #action davidnind to look at previous meetings and add any current or still relevant items as tasks to Bugzilla | |
| 16:06 | #topic Project updates | |
| 16:06 | Topic for #koha is now Project updates (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 16 December 2021) | |
| 16:07 | davidnind | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ion_Team#Projects |
| 16:07 | I'm adding these as tasks to Bugzilla (not quite there yet) - but no other update than that at the moment | |
| 16:08 | aude_c | ok |
| 16:08 | cait1 | davidnind++ |
| 16:08 | davidnind | If any of them are of interest feel free to add your name to them! |
| 16:09 | aude_c: I hope things like Bugzilla and Git are not too overwhelming eyt! | |
| 16:09 | ..yet | |
| 16:09 | aude_c | still feeling a bit too new to this to add my name there |
| 16:09 | davidnind: thanks, I've used them in small ways so just a case of getting more familiar :) | |
| 16:10 | ashimema | I'll take a look, see if any would suit my help.. but I won't be active until the new year ;) |
| 16:10 | davidnind | we need to update our documentation to make it easier to get up to speed, so a fresh perspective will be very helpful |
| 16:10 | ashimema | aude_c I'm always open to help and guide, just poke me ;) |
| 16:11 | davidnind | thanks ashimema! |
| 16:11 | aude_c | ashimema: thank you! |
| 16:11 | davidnind | #topic What's been done so far |
| 16:11 | Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 16 December 2021) | |
| 16:11 | cait1 | I hope to help some too, but also want to know how docs team works, so I can make sure QA takes care of things important to the team |
| 16:11 | * ashimema | wondered about checking for visual editors for sphinx again.. make contributions a little easier |
| 16:12 | cait1 | maybe we shoudl also think about splitting some more files, navigation can be hard because of length |
| 16:13 | davidnind | you can also use markdown with Sphinx, so something to look at - a lot of similarity - markdown is a lot simpler though |
| 16:13 | cait1 | i've tried some visual editors, but it can be alittle hard where links and pictures are concerned, for text is usually no issue |
| 16:13 | aude_c | What's Sphinx? |
| 16:13 | cait1 | markdown might be interesting - more people might know it |
| 16:13 | davidnind | one of the projects is to reorganise the contents (long overdue) |
| 16:13 | cait1 | Sphinx is the software used to create the manual |
| 16:14 | aude_c | oh |
| 16:14 | cait1 | I think the format is... restructured text ? |
| 16:14 | davidnind | Sphinx is the tool that takes the source "code" for the manul and then turns it into HTML or PDF, ePub, etc |
| 16:14 | cait1 | someone correct me if I remember wrong please |
| 16:14 | davidnind | reStructuredText - is a lightweight markup klanguage - like HTML but a bit more constrained... |
| 16:15 | ashimema | You all described it perfectly |
| 16:15 | aude_c | ok, thank you |
| 16:15 | cait1 | davidnind++ |
| 16:15 | davidnind | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]-_Tips_and_Tricks |
| 16:16 | cait1 | one thing to maybe keep on mind when restructuring the manual - we also link from Koha to it, so it would be good to have a nice landing point for each page in Koha |
| 16:16 | davidnind | good point |
| 16:16 | cait1 | right now we jump to the chapter in the manual... maybe it could also be a shorter summary page with links that relate to the topic |
| 16:17 | but finding quick help what goes in a field/form might still be a goal when starting from Koha | |
| 16:17 | or a use case | |
| 16:17 | wahanui | a use case is, like, just wanting more options for date in notices |
| 16:18 | cait1 | wahanui: forget use case |
| 16:18 | wahanui | cait1: I forgot use case |
| 16:18 | davidnind | ideally we would have linked help from pages in Koha, but there is probably some work to get to that stage |
| 16:18 | cait1 | can you describe that idea a bit more? |
| 16:19 | davidnind | sounds like a good idea, so people using Koha can find the information quicker, rather than googling... |
| 16:20 | embedded type help like microsoft or other tools where you click on the help button and it takes you somewhere (hopefully with the answers) | |
| 16:20 | I'm not sure whether Koha used to to that in the distant past... | |
| 16:21 | cait1 | we do that now |
| 16:21 | but i might be misunderstanding | |
| 16:21 | ashimema | I thought it did that already |
| 16:21 | cait1 | the Help link in the upper right corner in Koha links to the most specific spot in the manual for the current page |
| 16:21 | ashimema | Can't say I've used it for a while personally |
| 16:21 | aude_c | that's my understanding too (I use it a lot!!) |
| 16:21 | cait1 | there is a mapping for each template file to a section in the manual |
| 16:22 | oleonard | Previously the help files were local which created a problem keeping them in sync with the online manual |
| 16:22 | ashimema | I seem to remember you can even set the base URL to point to your own docs site if you wanted to |
| 16:22 | cait1 | exactly, also with translations (needed to do them twice) |
| 16:22 | ashimema | :-) |
| 16:22 | Glad it does still work | |
| 16:22 | cait1 | yes, that's also a feature, with the docs url you can also make sure it goes to the preferred language |
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| 16:23 | cait1 | we have set ours to german and the manuals on translate at the moment (because the ones on the website do't have current translations often) |
| 16:23 | ashimema | How it works might be good to have documented somewhere.. it's not something I ever check for in QA or think to do as a dev |
| 16:23 | I should probably | |
| 16:23 | cait1 | it's necessary for new pages added... but you are right, we need to check the help link |
| 16:24 | if you don't have a sepcific link, I believe the help will just link to the manual start page | |
| 16:24 | lucyvh | Hi all, sorry I'm late |
| 16:24 | davidnind | #action davidnind to add a task to Bugzilla to document how the linking from Koha to the manual works |
| 16:24 | hi lucyvh! | |
| 16:25 | no problem! | |
| 16:26 | where was I? | |
| 16:26 | aude_c | "What’s been done so far"? |
| 16:27 | davidnind | hehe - easy to get distracted! |
| 16:27 | lucyvh | My fault, apologies |
| 16:27 | aude_c | haha, yes; I wasn't sure where to start explaining to Lucy what you were talking about! |
| 16:27 | davidnind | I've not done too much more since my update to the mailing list |
| 16:28 | #info Documentation Manager update - 2021-12-07 https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ember/000271.html | |
| 16:28 | cait1 | davidnind: you can also use #link url linktext if you want |
| 16:29 | davidnind | our IRC is logged, so you can always keep an eye on what the developers are up to :-D http://irc.koha-community.org/ |
| 16:30 | the only other thing has mostly been trying to work out the translation works -= is on the agenda lately | |
| 16:30 | cait1 | thanks a lot for that |
| 16:30 | is it a good moment to ask workflow questions? | |
| 16:30 | aude_c | davidnind: thanks (about the IRC logs) :D |
| 16:31 | davidnind | cait1: that's next on the agenda |
| 16:31 | * cait1 | will wiat |
| 16:32 | davidnind | that's it from me on things - finally actually starting to do some actual writing! |
| 16:32 | anything else you have all been working on that you would like to share? | |
| 16:33 | bearing in mind I haven't been that active until now - my apologies for that fro the last release cycle | |
| 16:33 | aude_c | nothing yet; planning to start looking at it properly with lucyvh early January |
| 16:34 | davidnind | great - things tend to get busy in real life at this time of the eyar! |
| 16:34 | lucyvh | I haven't been abe to contribute much this year, hoping that changes in the new year |
| 16:34 | davidnind | hopefully I will have some of the Wiki pages updated on processes and step-by-step instructions |
| 16:34 | cait1 | i think only complaining about the translations... so not being very helpful |
| 16:35 | lucyvh | Great that aude_c is getting involved |
| 16:35 | davidnind | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ocumentation_Team |
| 16:35 | it's great to have you all involved! | |
| 16:36 | always helpful cait1 - hopefully we can get the translation stuff sorted out and running smoothly | |
| 16:36 | #topic Content development guidelines | |
| 16:36 | Topic for #koha is now Content development guidelines (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 16 December 2021) | |
| 16:37 | davidnind | You can go first if you like cait1 (content development guidelines = things like a style guide, terminology, processes, and how we do things) |
| 16:37 | cait1 | my question was more about how we workwith the spreadsheets |
| 16:38 | i think the original idea was to mark all bugs that require docs updates with the keyword "Manual" in bugzilla | |
| 16:38 | so you could then search for that and work throught hem | |
| 16:38 | and then remove the Manual keyword when done | |
| 16:38 | is this still the idea - and shoudl we then wait for you to keywords (or help with that) / amke a note on the spreadsheet? | |
| 16:40 | davidnind | That's how I see it working as well, for bug 29473 (21.11) and 29460 (22.05) I'm using that more as a way for me to make sure all the release changes are reviewed |
| 16:40 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29473 normal, P1 - high, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS 21.11] Documentation changes for 21.11 |
| 16:40 | davidnind | bug 29460 |
| 16:40 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29460 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to stable , Typo 'pendin g approval' |
| 16:41 | davidnind | so basically I will review what is pushed and see if I thing a change is required to the documentation and add the manual keyword |
| 16:41 | * ashimema | would like to see the SO/QA/Push process link up with the docs process.. making sure we somehow keep on top of things.. |
| 16:41 | cait1 | ok, so maybe if we get to work on something that has not been 'keyworded' or actually always, we could also add a little comment with the merge request maybe? |
| 16:41 | ashimema | Cool, that works |
| 16:41 | cait1 | merge request _link_ |
| 16:42 | davidnind | for 22.05 this is up-to-date and you can see the list - there is a link in the agenda - it is quite long! |
| 16:42 | I'm still wokring through the 21.11 ones to add the manual keyword, but there are quite a few already with it | |
| 16:44 | lucyvh | It's great to have the spreadsheet with everything centralised |
| 16:44 | davidnind | cait1: yes, that woudl be good |
| 16:45 | lucyvh | I think we need something more that just removing the 'manual' keyword. Could we have a 'Manual - done' tag for something similar |
| 16:45 | davidnind | I might also be wrong about what needs documenting - architecture and developer specific things aren't covered by the manual |
| 16:46 | cait1 | lucyvh: that's also an idea, it might not work in the beginning, but culd be helpful in the future |
| 16:46 | Manual and Manual_Done keywords | |
| 16:46 | davidnind | I was proposing that we add a comment to the bug saying: |
| 16:46 | 1. Changes for this bug are now incorporated into the manual. | |
| 16:46 | 2. Here are the changes we have made (a link to the commit and section in the manual). | |
| 16:46 | 3. Indicate that any feedback or suggestions are welcome. | |
| 16:46 | 4. Remove the Manual keyword from the bug, if it was used. | |
| 16:46 | This will give contributors to the bug a chance to make sure we've reflected the change correctly | |
| 16:47 | cait1 | sounds good |
| 16:47 | davidnind | What's the process of adding a keyword to Bugzilla? |
| 16:48 | lucyvh | That sounds good |
| 16:48 | davidnind | It would be useful to show what we have done as well |
| 16:48 | cait1 | I think I can do that actually |
| 16:49 | ashimema probably too sec | |
| 16:49 | i can | |
| 16:49 | davidnind | #action davidnind to look at getting a keyword added to Bugzilla to capture that the documentation/manual has been updated for this bug |
| 16:49 | cait1 | most seemto prefer undercores |
| 16:49 | I cando it right now if you want | |
| 16:49 | davidnind | great |
| 16:49 | cait1 | Manual_done ok? or Manual_Done? |
| 16:50 | davidnind | go for it - one less action for me |
| 16:50 | Manual_Updated? | |
| 16:50 | cait1 | ok |
| 16:50 | davidnind | anyone have any preferences? |
| 16:50 | cait1 | i seee one with - too heh |
| 16:50 | Manual-updated? | |
| 16:50 | davidnind | +1 |
| 16:50 | lucyvh | +1 |
| 16:50 | aude_c | +1 |
| 16:51 | cait1 | Indicates that the changes from this bug have been incorporated into the Koha manual. |
| 16:51 | for a description | |
| 16:51 | davidnind | okay, so once we've updated the manual for a bug, we change the keyword to Manual-updated |
| 16:51 | sounds good | |
| 16:52 | thanks cait1! | |
| 16:52 | okay 10 minutes to go... | |
| 16:52 | cait1 | I've changed the description for Manual a litlte too: Indicates that this bug makes changes that will need to be documented in the Koha manual. |
| 16:53 | davidnind | cait1++ |
| 16:54 | I've been adding [DOCS] to Bugzilla tasks as I add them or review them - see https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]&v2=Documentation | |
| 16:55 | is this helpful and should we expand - or just go with that for the moment. For me it makes documentation bugs *tasks) stand a bit more in Bugzilla. | |
| 16:55 | cait1 | we have a documentation component, but it's true that often you don't spot it right away |
| 16:55 | especially in the email inbox | |
| 16:55 | I like it | |
| 16:56 | davidnind | I don't envy your inbox! |
| 16:56 | okay, I'll stick with that for the moment and keep it simple | |
| 16:56 | ashimema | I can add a list to the dashboard that tracks the manual keyword |
| 16:57 | cait1 | yah... i am behind with bug mails this week already again |
| 16:57 | ashimema | I use the dashboard a lot as my starting point for picking community work to get on with |
| 16:57 | davidnind | that would be great - we can see how it goes, at least make the work on the documentation a bit more visible and perhaps encourage contributions... |
| 16:57 | ashimema | Would that be helpful for just another place to get confused by? |
| 16:58 | Indeed | |
| 16:58 | cait1 | I also like hat idea :) |
| 16:58 | davidnind: quick, action him! | |
| 16:58 | ashimema | Wouldn't be too hard to have docs leaderboards like we have for SO and QA come to think of it |
| 16:58 | Hehe.. Okies.. I'll take a look over Xmas . Action me ;) | |
| 16:58 | davidnind | I better do some work then:-D |
| 16:59 | cait1 | i think you'll need a combination of keywords and component + manual - i have a saved shared search for the open ones |
| 16:59 | it was a little tricky to get right, until Caroline approved :) | |
| 16:59 | davidnind | #action ashimema to look at adding docs tasks to the dashboard https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 17:00 | using the version released in helps as well | |
| 17:00 | ashimema++ | |
| 17:01 | I'll defer the other agenda items to the enxt meeting! | |
| 17:01 | #topic Set time for next meeting | |
| 17:01 | Topic for #koha is now Set time for next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 16 December 2021) | |
| 17:01 | davidnind | Does this time work for you all - earlier, later? |
| 17:01 | It's okay for me (normally...) | |
| 17:02 | aude_c | it works for me. Earlier would work too |
| 17:02 | cait1 | same |
| 17:02 | but it hink earlier is hard for davidnind | |
| 17:02 | 12 hours to nz currently - so now is 6am | |
| 17:02 | aude_c | oh, I'm thinking about time zones the wrong way, then! Sorry |
| 17:02 | davidnind | I could make it half an hour earlier if that works better for the UK/Europe |
| 17:02 | cait1 | aude_c: i think nz is about the only one i get right after years of training and especially in winter :) |
| 17:03 | aude_c | cait1: haha! I'll get used to it |
| 17:03 | davidnind | it's basically 12 hours difference, give or take daylight savings |
| 17:03 | cait1 | yes, 10 in summer (in the future), 12 in winter and very confusing 11 for a short time period in betweens |
| 17:03 | but I am distracting ... concentration is fading a little | |
| 17:04 | aude_c | So, keep the same time? |
| 17:04 | davidnind | okay, I'll make it UTC 15:30 and we can see how it goes |
| 17:04 | lucyvh | Same time works for me |
| 17:04 | aude_c | no need for you to get up earlier on our behalf davidnind! |
| 17:05 | the meeting started at 4pm in the UK so easy for us | |
| 17:05 | cait1 | 5pm here is good too - it's a little late, but that means that things have quieted down a bit which also helps |
| 17:05 | davidnind | okay, we'll stick with 16:00 and see how it goes... |
| 17:06 | the other idea I had was to have every 3rd or 4th meeting a video conference one, any thoughts? | |
| 17:06 | aude_c | that would be nice |
| 17:07 | lucyvh | Great idea |
| 17:07 | davidnind | that way it would be easier to demonstrate things and it can be easier to discuss some topics |
| 17:07 | ashimema | Great idea |
| 17:07 | davidnind | I'll schedule it in |
| 17:08 | is the 6th okay for the first meeting for next year - basically the 1st Thursday (or Friday?) of the month? | |
| 17:08 | aude_c | yes for me |
| 17:08 | cait1 | yes |
| 17:08 | sorry, got distracted :) | |
| 17:09 | davidnind | #info Next meeting: 6 January 2022, 16:00 UTC |
| 17:09 | lucyvh | yep |
| 17:09 | davidnind | #endmeeting |
| 17:09 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 17:09 | huginn` | Meeting ended Thu Dec 16 17:09:11 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 17:09 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-12-16-16.00.html | |
| 17:09 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-12-16-16.00.txt | |
| 17:09 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]16-16.00.log.html | |
| 17:09 | cait1 | thanks davidnind++ :) |
| 17:09 | davidnind | thanks everyone, slightly over time but not too bad |
| 17:09 | lucyvh | thanks davidnind |
| 17:09 | aude_c | thank you davidnind |
| 17:10 | davidnind | hopefully we can start making traction on updating the manual in the new year! |
| 17:10 | aude_c | sounds like a new year resolution! :D |
| 17:10 | davidnind | document all the things! |
| 17:10 | aude_c | hehe |
| 17:11 | cait1 | :) |
| 17:11 | davidnind | a but like fixing all the bugs! :-D |
| 17:11 | ashimema | Nice one everyone |
| 17:11 | cait1 | maybe an idea to discuss soemtiem: encourage people to report when they don't find info in the manual |
| 17:11 | davidnind | thanks ashimema for dropping in on your day off! |
| 17:12 | aude_c | cait1: yes, that would be good |
| 17:12 | davidnind | I'm starting to add tasks for things people raise either on the mailing list or in chat that aren't covered, or aren't covered well |
| 17:13 | cait1 | yes, that makes sense |
| 17:13 | davidnind | then next time someone asks about it we can point them to the right place... |
| 17:13 | cait1 | time to think about dinner here - bye :) |
| 17:13 | davidnind | thanks cait1! |
| 17:13 | aude_c | off as well. "See you" next time! |
| 17:13 | davidnind | time to think about breakfast! |
| 17:14 | cait1 left #koha | |
| 17:15 | davidnind | I was going to experiment with "office hours" - a chance to drop in and discuss anything we are working on or ask questions at a set time, but will defer to next year to start that (https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]m_-_Office_hours) |
| 17:16 | lucyvh | Bye all |
| 17:16 | davidnind | thanks lucyvh! |
| 17:16 | (too slow...) | |
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| 18:28 | tcohen | hola |
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| 20:38 | fridolin | here i ham |
| 20:38 | using google meat | |
| 20:39 | not really a veggie :D | |
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| 22:15 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 28481: (RM follow-up) formatting <https://git.koha-community.org[…]92df8d9d79fe1ec8a> |
| 22:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 29575: (RM follow-up) remove HTML comments <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c3c3671349a712053> | |
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| 22:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 28481: (QA follow-up) Set date to 23:59:59 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0bbfe5bf19f41dcc4> | |
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| 22:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 28377: (28937 follow-up) Flatpickr change <https://git.koha-community.org[…]8d90687bf8239cc79> | |
| 22:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 29669: fix uninitialized value warnings when XSLTParse4Display is called <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c43a5b353b7f76157> | |
| 22:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 28481: Make 'to' date inclusive. <https://git.koha-community.org[…]e3a7ebc8c9cabcce6> | |
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| 22:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 28377: Use the API to suspend/resume holds <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b77e3d1136643c533> | |
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