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| 00:50 | cait | translating the installer and running into: Library Laser |
| 00:51 | davidnind | >:o |
| 00:51 | cait | caroline: sorry, was translating and distracted - i think that would work |
| 00:52 | hi davidnind :) | |
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| 00:57 | caroline | cait no worries, I was eating supper :) |
| 00:57 | cait | just made coffee, hope it helps :) |
| 01:01 | davidnind | hi cait, it is very late! |
| 01:01 | cait | i know! |
| 01:01 | :) | |
| 01:02 | i went ot bed at 6 am yesterday | |
| 01:02 | caroline | oof! |
| 01:03 | cait | neighbour probably think i have turned into a vampire |
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| 01:08 | caroline | I really envy Myka's ability to speak slowly |
| 01:15 | aleisha_kohacon | hehe caroline |
| 01:16 | presenting live like you did is a whole different challenge! | |
| 01:16 | but myka is a great speaker too :) | |
| 01:20 | marie-luce | very inspiring talk Myka |
| 01:25 | davidnind | caroline: I found the pace of your talk was excellent! |
| 01:26 | cait | what's up? |
| 01:26 | davidnind | didn't seem too rushed to me |
| 01:26 | cait | caroline: agreeing with david |
| 01:26 | davidnind | trying to setup some more photos - how many IT people does it take to get the tech working :-D |
| 01:26 | caroline | did you? I thought I was speaking way too fast... But I was nervous, so my interpretation may be skewed |
| 01:27 | davidnind | you didn't come across as nervous either |
| 01:27 | cait | i always talk too fast - didn't have the feeling with yours |
| 01:31 | caroline | thank you for your nice words davidnind and cait :) <3 |
| 01:31 | cait | :) |
| 01:32 | caroline | I will not be tossing and turning in my bed thinking about how bad I did tonight lol! |
| 01:32 | (I tend to stress about stuff at night) | |
| 01:37 | cait | same |
| 01:37 | don't worry, you really don#<t have to :) | |
| 01:49 | caroline | cait do you also have this problem? bug 26619 |
| 01:49 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26619 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Shopping basket - The "Print" button is only translated when you are in "More details" mode |
| 01:50 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #285: FAILURE in 4.6 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D8/285/ |
| 01:51 | cait | yep |
| 01:51 | marie-luce | lovely community work in Finland |
| 01:51 | cait | i just checked our 20.05 something |
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| 01:54 | wizzyrea | @quote add "Beware the tyranny of small differences." |
| 01:54 | huginn | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 01:55 | wizzyrea | @quote add "Beware the tyranny of small differences." |
| 01:55 | huginn | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 01:55 | wizzyrea | @quote add "Beware the tyranny of small differences." |
| 01:55 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #344 added. |
| 01:55 | wizzyrea | YAS |
| 01:56 | caroline | The other one was "Your library is different, but not THAT different" or something like that |
| 01:56 | wizzyrea | @quote add "Your library is different, but not THAT different" |
| 01:56 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #345 added. |
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| 01:58 | wizzyrea | @quote add "Keep friendly, do good, be kind" |
| 01:58 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #346 added. |
| 01:58 | davidnind | sorry cait! |
| 01:58 | cait | davidnind: what did you do...? |
| 01:59 | davidnind | nothing... |
| 01:59 | wahanui | nothing is listening on 8081 |
| 01:59 | cait | hmmm |
| 01:59 | wizzyrea | forget nothing |
| 01:59 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot nothing |
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| 01:59 | cait | hi Jo :) |
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| 02:07 | jransom | Hi @Cait |
| 02:08 | just thought of you after seeing you in some of the KohaCon10 photos | |
| 02:08 | cait | same :) this kohacon brings back a lot of memories of the last one |
| 02:09 | including the famous road trip of course | |
| 02:09 | was really happy to see Rosalie earlier too | |
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| 02:13 | lisettelatah | jzairo++ |
| 02:15 | alexbuckley | jzairo wonderful talk! jzairo++ |
| 02:16 | jzairo | thanks! we LOVE koha and sharing ideas that we hope others can use! |
| 02:18 | caroline | jzairo++ really impressive |
| 02:21 | marie-luce | jzairo++ love the high energy level |
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| 02:55 | marie-luce | very useful presentation davidnind |
| 02:55 | carlos | yeah thanks davidnind |
| 02:56 | marie-luce | davidnind++ |
| 02:56 | thd | jransom: Are you still here? |
| 02:57 | caroline | davidnind++ |
| 02:57 | lisettelatah | davidnind++ |
| 02:57 | cait1 | davidnind++ :) |
| 02:57 | also for all the hard work on feeding Twitter | |
| 02:59 | caroline | the infamous cart! |
| 02:59 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 02:59 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 02:59 | cait1 | for catalog for catalogue I wonder why not using the en-GB translation |
| 02:59 | wizzyrea | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 02:59 | that | |
| 02:59 | caroline | yes, I thought of that too |
| 02:59 | cait1 | we do that for some of the Goethe libraries, like the one in london because of the spellings and such |
| 03:00 | https://london.bibliothek.goethe.de/ | |
| 03:00 | lisettelatah | Might be good to ask that one in the sli.do |
| 03:00 | caroline | But if it's just in that one place, it's not a big deal |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | ah here we go |
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| 03:05 | caroline | I used to say yes to a lot of those kinds of requests, but now I say, well this is how Koha works (and in my head "get used to it!") |
| 03:08 | cait1 | lol |
| 03:08 | wonder if I am going to arrive there someday... right now i have too much fun with customizations i guess | |
| 03:09 | caroline | They are fun, but an update can screw up your personnalisations |
| 03:09 | cait1 | we've probably been lucky mostly so far |
| 03:10 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 03:10 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 03:11 | dcook_ | I think it was cait1 who said to me years ago to customize as little as possible heh |
| 03:12 | dcook | So many pretty Koha OPACs out there in the world, but yeah so much work to upgrade.. |
| 03:12 | cait1 | well, I know I have a weakness in saying no |
| 03:12 | but we mostly stick to easier stuff or things that really make sense and often end up getting reused for multiple installations | |
| 03:13 | lisettelatah | The bulk of my testing when we update is in making sure all our JQ still works as expected. The last few updates we haven't had too many problems though which is nice. |
| 03:13 | cait1 | like hiding or renaming things... if that breaks on updates it's usually not the end of the world |
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| 03:14 | georgewilliams | I recommend adding detailed comments to any CSS or jQuery you add to Koha. It makes double checking for updates a lot easier. |
| 03:14 | lisettelatah | I also do a lot of checking in the upgrade notes for if there are changes listed that I think might cause an issue (like a div got re id'd for some reason. or a column added to a table that does something based on number of columns) |
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| 03:14 | cait1 | we usually comment with the ticket number |
| 03:14 | lisettelatah | Yes, the detailed comments help a lot with the process. |
| 03:15 | cait1 | that way you can go back to the initial request |
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| 03:15 | georgewilliams | The comments on jQuery I do now include the breadcrumbs of the pages that the jQuery will affect. That way other people in our office can see what pages are affected. |
| 03:15 | cait1 | and we can leave internal commentson our ticket system too and often copy the snippets there as well |
| 03:16 | lisettelatah | That is what Bywater does too when they add stuff. I try and go back and add a more detailed note so I don't have to go back to the ticket if I'm troubleshooting it. |
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| 03:16 | cait1 | i tend to always include the body id when there is no strong reason for why it should affect multiple pages - limits unwanted effects considerably |
| 03:16 | in the selectors | |
| 03:17 | been burnt by strange side effects a few times that were hard to track down | |
| 03:17 | georgewilliams | Yes. I try to use the body ids too |
| 03:17 | I've been burnt also | |
| 03:17 | lisettelatah | I either do that or specify the specific page (especially if something doesn't have a unique ID, like purchase suggestion on the opac has the same div as the opac search results. |
| 03:17 | caroline | I'm so excited for the ES facets! We only have one ES installation so far and I haven't played with it so much |
| 03:17 | cait1 | lisettelatah: hm if that hasn't been fixed, would you file? |
| 03:18 | they should all have a unique body id, was a project of mine at one of hte marseille hackfests | |
| 03:18 | lisettelatah | Sure. I'll double check on master tomorrow because I had tested initially on a sandbox and didn't have problems and then had issues when I plugged it into my production server. |
| 03:19 | I'll check the other code we have that specifies the page rather than a div and see if those are fixed as well. | |
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| 03:32 | thd | lisettelatah: Are people still posting in slido as you suggested? |
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| 03:32 | marie-luce | goodnight all |
| 03:33 | caroline | bye everyone! |
| 03:33 | thd | Good night |
| 03:34 | cait1 | a few new comment son sli.do, bu tmore in the chat on youtube |
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| 04:22 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 06:07 | severine_q | hi #koha ! |
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| 06:32 | TimothyAlexis | Is this the only use of item.new_status? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26032 |
| 06:32 | huginn | Bug 26032: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , Add 'is new' filter in items search |
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| 07:01 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:02 | severine_q | salut alex_a ! |
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| 07:05 | alex_a | Salut severine_q |
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| 07:33 | * fridolin | waves at Kohacon poeple |
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| 07:51 | davidnind | waves back! |
| 07:53 | ashimema | hola |
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| 08:02 | magnuse | https://twitter.com/RachelHW11[…]18442463581761538 "Should we do a koha cook book"? i say yes! |
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| 08:29 | ashimema | Koha Cook Book.. that would be awesome |
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| 09:11 | TimothyAlexis | I see item.new changed to item.new_status in 2016, bug 16004 |
| 09:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16004 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Replace items.new with items.new_status |
| 09:11 | TimothyAlexis | And it seems that it is only until recently that it is actually used for something, bug 26032 |
| 09:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , Add 'is new' filter in items search |
| 09:12 | TimothyAlexis | Does anyone know more about this status? |
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| 09:14 | fridolin | TimothyAlexis: it was develloped by us @biblibre |
| 09:15 | TimothyAlexis: we use it to show a "new" flag in records searches | |
| 09:16 | TimothyAlexis | Are you planning to use it for anything more? |
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| 09:16 | fridolin | TimothyAlexis: it is also used to generate search on "newness" |
| 09:16 | wahanui | okay, fridolin. |
| 09:17 | fridolin | do you have an idea of feature ? |
| 09:18 | TimothyAlexis | fridolin We have several libraries at our University, some of which have certain new books on display. We are thinking about using this status for those books and to set it manually. |
| 09:18 | It would serve the same purpose but it would be set and unset differently. | |
| 09:19 | fridolin | you totally can set and unset manually :D |
| 09:21 | TimothyAlexis | Will it be unset after a certain time, or is that an option? |
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| 09:21 | TimothyAlexis | We would need it to be only unset at check in and check out of an item. |
| 09:22 | fridolin++ | |
| 09:22 | fridolin | TimothyAlexis: it is not unset automatically unless you configure it in tools > Automatic item modifications by age |
| 09:25 | TimothyAlexis | Thank you fridolin |
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| 09:30 | fridolin | TimothyAlexis: your welcome, good luck with your librarians, they are crazy :P |
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| 09:31 | ashimema | aren't we all crazy ;) |
| 09:34 | magnuse | oops https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Koha_cookbook_RFC |
| 09:34 | * magnuse | is hungry now |
| 09:35 | ashimema | you should link to bug 5158 :) |
| 09:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors |
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| 09:40 | magnuse | ashimema: tweeted it |
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| 09:56 | davidnind | magnuse++ |
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| 10:13 | ashimema | anyone out there? |
| 10:13 | oleonard | o/ |
| 10:13 | ashimema | Would people be completely against a notice getting 'reset' at upgrade time? |
| 10:13 | notice template that is.. | |
| 10:13 | oleonard | Yeah I imagine so :( |
| 10:14 | ashimema | I'm working on the ACCOUNT_CREDIT and ACCOUNT_DEBIT notices.. and they're not at all consistent in their veriables for any other templates |
| 10:14 | I want to make them consistent and replace the notices.. | |
| 10:15 | I'm finding maintaining backwards compatibility... challenging | |
| 10:15 | had a feeling someone would say that :( | |
| 10:15 | Koha is hard sometimes | |
| 10:16 | oleonard | We offer too much customization :D |
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| 10:16 | ashimema | lol |
| 10:16 | indeed | |
| 10:19 | oleonard | I'm thinking about a similar issue because we may need to update the syntax of the OpenLibrary search in the OPACSearchForTitleIn preference |
| 10:20 | I can't imagine a foolproof way to upgrade that and accommodate libraries' existing customizations | |
| 10:20 | ashimema | yeah.. it's challenging isn't it. |
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| 11:03 | oleonard | Hi enkidu |
| 11:03 | enkidu | Hi oleonard |
| 11:03 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 11:05 | enkidu | is wahanui a bot? |
| 11:05 | I think so | |
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| 11:05 | oleonard | yes :) |
| 11:05 | He was trained to say that whenever anyone greets me :| | |
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| 11:22 | enkidu | but it didn't learn your nick correctly :) |
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| 11:28 | magnuse | enkidu: it's an old joke :-) |
| 11:29 | more bots are listed at the bottom of this page: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars | |
| 11:30 | bots? | |
| 11:30 | bots are listed on this page: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars | |
| 11:30 | bots? | |
| 11:30 | wahanui | bots are listed on this page: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
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| 11:37 | TimothyAlexis | After upgrading to 20.05.03 our holds queues are changing order and we are unable to correct them. |
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| 11:41 | TimothyAlexis | One patron was 4th in queue yesterday and today she's 10th. When a librarian tries to change the queue from intranet, it reverts. |
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| 11:54 | oleonard | Sorry TimothyAlexis, I guess no one is around who knows anything to suggest |
| 11:55 | tcohen | hi |
| 11:55 | I can try take a look, I know aleisha submitted a fix for a holds queue problem | |
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| 12:11 | TimothyAlexis | tcohen I looked at the bugs but have yet to find something related |
| 12:17 | oleonard | tcohen were you thinking of Bug 24488? |
| 12:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24488 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Holds to Pull sometimes shows the wrong 'first patron' details |
| 12:18 | tcohen | yes, not right now, but yes |
| 12:19 | TimothyAlexis | http://www.freealization.com/files/holdsqueue.png |
| 12:19 | The order has changed | |
| 12:20 | Look at the dates | |
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| 12:39 | oleonard | I guess this week is the week of discovering bugs with the Bootstrap 4 upgrade... |
| 12:42 | ashimema | just the man oleanard |
| 12:42 | what removed biblio-default-view.inc | |
| 12:42 | just working through a rebase for something | |
| 12:43 | oleonard | Bug 23852 |
| 12:43 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23852 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Merge biblio-title.inc and biblio-default-view.inc |
| 12:43 | ashimema | awesome, thanks :) |
| 12:49 | * oleonard | could have sworn he submitted his patch for Bug 26735 yesterday... better late than never... |
| 12:49 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26735 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Overdrive login modal broken in the OPAC |
| 12:49 | oleonard | ^^ kidclamp |
| 12:50 | * kidclamp | tosses owen a leonard snack |
| 12:53 | oleonard | I'm going to pretend it was these: https://www.seriouseats.com/re[…]ticks-recipe.html |
| 12:56 | kidclamp | I think pretend internet snacks are whatever you are craving at the moment, also, I don't want knowledge of how to make those |
| 12:58 | oleonard | I marvel at anyone who can just "have them around" for snacking. |
| 13:03 | * cait | waves |
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| 13:05 | cait | how did SO get to 28 again? |
| 13:06 | * cait | recruits ashimema and kidclamp for QA |
| 13:06 | kidclamp | you blinked |
| 13:06 | cait | that must be it |
| 13:06 | ashimema | hello |
| 13:06 | wahanui | hi, ashimema |
| 13:06 | cait | kidclamp: but seriously, could you take bug 26697 out of queue? combination of martin and me |
| 13:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26697 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Make translation file for types and descriptions of charges consistent between OPAC and staff |
| 13:07 | ashimema | yowsers the queue jumped up again |
| 13:08 | cait | it did |
| 13:08 | ashimema | 58 in the PQA queue.. dang |
| 13:08 | 52.. I can't type today | |
| 13:08 | he has his work cut out | |
| 13:09 | cait | but it's Joubu... |
| 13:09 | ashimema | true |
| 13:23 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 13:35 | oleonard | wizzyrea++ |
| 13:37 | lukeG1 | Good morning |
| 13:37 | * cait | waves |
| 13:38 | cait | oleonard: could you check a dsplay thing for me? 26598 |
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| 13:39 | ashimema | man the code involved in bug 24370 is confusing |
| 13:39 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24370 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Editing purchase suggestion changes the acquisition library to logged-in user's |
| 13:41 | cait | true |
| 13:41 | that's why thisis only a partial fix (see notes) | |
| 13:41 | well not reall ypartial, but there are more bugs | |
| 13:41 | i believe kidclamp dabbled with that code? | |
| 13:42 | it's a major issue.. i thought it was worth giving it a try | |
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| 13:44 | lukeG1 | dont understand why these Ubuntu builds are failing right away ^^ |
| 13:47 | ashimema | mjt |
| 13:47 | I think he's on the case for the ubuntu builds | |
| 13:47 | cait.. can you point out to me where branchcode is actually set to send to the template? | |
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| 13:48 | cait | ? |
| 13:48 | lukeG1 | good to know, thanks ashimema |
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| 13:48 | ashimema | well.. you change `branchfilter || branchcode` to `branchcode`.. but I can't actually see where branchcode is ever set |
| 13:49 | the code in the controller script is an abomination | |
| 13:50 | 496 lines of unstructured, uncommented chuff | |
| 13:50 | lol | |
| 13:51 | cait | i tihnk i came to the conclusion that the branchcode is the value it actually has |
| 13:51 | in the db | |
| 13:52 | ashimema | the only place it gets set is within a 'redirect_with_params' internal routine |
| 13:52 | cait | and we should always use that to preselect and now something from the filters |
| 13:52 | not something... | |
| 13:52 | ashimema | I agree |
| 13:52 | cait | i just finished something, let me take a look |
| 13:53 | kidclamp: around? | |
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| 13:53 | ashimema | I have to go get the daugher from school shortly |
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| 13:53 | cait | that's ok |
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| 13:55 | ashimema | the 'Any' setting should work... |
| 13:55 | it passes back an empty value | |
| 13:55 | which should in theory unset the branchcode in ModSuggestion | |
| 13:55 | cait | yeah but it doesn't |
| 13:55 | i thought that was because of the Init | |
| 13:55 | ashimema | hmm.. though it may actually set it to an empty string |
| 13:55 | cait | but eve commenting out the lines there did not change the behaviour |
| 13:55 | ashimema | so perhaps catching empty string ans converting it to 'undef' would do the trick |
| 13:55 | inside ModSuggestion | |
| 13:56 | cait | I actually got stuck there |
| 13:56 | exactly there | |
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| 13:58 | ashimema | try adding `$suggestion->{branchcode} = undef if ($suggestion->{branchcode} eq "");` just above the call to `set` inside the `eval` within ModSuggestion |
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| 13:58 | ashimema | that might do the trick |
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| 14:00 | ashimema | Bug 26418 |
| 14:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26418 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , The "description" for REFUND accountlines is not translatable |
| 14:00 | cait | ashimema: could you maybe do it? I can test the follow-pu |
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| 14:14 | lukeG1 | im sorry about all this noise ^^ |
| 14:15 | cait | lukeG1: that#s ok |
| 14:15 | :) | |
| 14:15 | ashimema | Not until tomorrow |
| 14:15 | At the earliest | |
| 14:15 | cait | i will try to do it late |
| 14:15 | r | |
| 14:15 | just a lot on my pile right now too :) | |
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| 14:23 | ashimema | Tomorrow will be fine then of course |
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| 14:23 | ashimema | Whoever gets to it first |
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| 14:49 | cait | lukeG1: i thnk 26512 might not be needed in 20.05 - the dependency is not there |
| 14:49 | have you tested? | |
| 14:51 | lukeG1 | cait, that was a mistake on my part. Reverting… |
| 14:51 | Thanks for catching | |
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| 15:20 | severine_q | cait, should we create a dependency with 23376 too for bug 26680 ? |
| 15:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Update (rcvd) to (received) with its own class in basket view |
| 15:23 | oleonard | kidclamp around now? |
| 15:23 | cait | severine_q: maybe - i was hoping someone would push the follow-up |
| 15:25 | severine_q | ok cait, i'll wait for that one ! |
| 15:25 | i'm done with Needs on acqui module, let's try elasticsearch now :) | |
| 15:26 | oleonard : kidclamp around would be great ! | |
| 15:26 | oleonard | :) |
| 15:40 | cait | kidclamp kidclamp kidclamp |
| 15:40 | worth trying | |
| 15:41 | severine_q | :) |
| 15:53 | cait | now we need kidclamp even more |
| 15:53 | Joubu just commented on the receive breaking bug with a question. argh. | |
| 16:04 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23376: If a single item is returned we cannot count <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ade53c519b463d148> |
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| 16:15 | * ashimema | wants to know caits secret recipe for being able to stay up all night watching KohaCon AND still doing loads of QA during the day too |
| 16:20 | cait | just started my day - qa in the "morning" is easy |
| 16:24 | ok, that and picking oleonard's patches first | |
| 16:25 | oleonard | :) |
| 16:27 | cait | ashimema: you can catch up by QA'ing mine... they are similarly nice (mostly) |
| 16:27 | severine_q: the patch fixing rececies was pushed :) bugs unlocked! | |
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| 16:29 | severine_q | yeah !! let's test another one before end of the day :) |
| 16:30 | not as brave as you cait, I need to sleep and I'm happy there is a replay for KohaCon ! | |
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| 16:40 | cait | severine_q: not really brave - i took the days off |
| 16:41 | this would certainly not work otherwise | |
| 16:49 | woot thx severine_q++ | |
| 16:51 | severine_q | tada ! 2 blocked patchs now signed off :) |
| 16:52 | but quite annoyed needs sign off list is more than 200... | |
| 16:53 | prepare yourself QA team, I think i'll test a lot tomorrow (and hope i'll do a lot of signing !) !! | |
| 16:55 | see you tomorrow #koha ! | |
| 16:59 | oleonard | I forget how to enable ILL every dang time |
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| 17:10 | ashimema | If should be easier oleonard.. it's lovely complicated right now :( |
| 17:15 | kidclamp | did someone say my name? |
| 17:15 | cait | only like a hundred times heh |
| 17:17 | kidclamp | what's up? I don't get from the scrollback |
| 17:17 | or didn't scroll enough | |
| 17:17 | cait | one was the order receive bug - that has been taken care of |
| 17:17 | (Joubu pushed) | |
| 17:17 | I think Severine was looking for you to help with testing Elasticsearch bugs | |
| 17:18 | i believe she jus threatened to fill up the QA queue tomorrow noe | |
| 17:18 | and i was hoping you could make sense of the suggestions templates | |
| 17:19 | bug 24370 | |
| 17:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24370 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Editing purchase suggestion changes the acquisition library to logged-in user's |
| 17:21 | kidclamp | will look in a bit |
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| 18:06 | oleonard | amoyano++ |
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| 18:07 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 18:09 | aleisha_kohacon | hi everyone! we'll be live in just under 2 hours at https://youtu.be/rDKRsHaCOc4 . Please remember to watch the Koha Awards Ceremony at 3:40pm NZST if you can! |
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| 18:11 | kidclamp | cait: if I am viewing franklin suggestions (but signed in as centerville) when I click 'New suggestion' - what library do you expect it to default to? |
| 18:12 | cait | for a new one i think the logged in one would be ok |
| 18:12 | the problem we were tryin to fix is with existing ones when you edit | |
| 18:12 | kidclamp | yes, the attempt I believe was to have it show you a new one for the branch you are filtering to |
| 18:13 | cait | ah ok |
| 18:13 | kidclamp | so your fix works, unless we want to fix the otehr part |
| 18:13 | also, yes, this code is gross | |
| 18:13 | cait | i am not sure i can manage a full fix - it's quite confusing |
| 18:14 | amoyano | hi oleaonad.. believe you saw vue alternative for circ rules? |
| 18:14 | oleonard.. sorry | |
| 18:14 | oleonard | Yes |
| 18:14 | cait | amoyano: could we put that code on a sandbo for the librarians at the conf to look at on diy? |
| 18:15 | amoyano | never use sandbox, but if someone can point me to the right track, I'll be happy to |
| 18:16 | cait | hm i think if there is a branch with the code that would be easiest probably |
| 18:16 | wiki | |
| 18:16 | https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes | |
| 18:16 | amoyano | give me a minute and I'll upload it to a branch |
| 18:18 | https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]tree/bz-15522-vue | |
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| 18:20 | cait | does the patch require any server side things to be installed? |
| 18:21 | oleonard | kidclamp if you still have a moment: When I try to log in to my OverDrive account I get the error, "OverDrive Library ID not provided" However I do have a value set for OverDriveLibraryID |
| 18:21 | cait | I'l try to set up a box |
| 18:21 | oleonard | kidclamp any idea why that might be happening? |
| 18:25 | amoyano | cait: It needs to use yarn to build.. |
| 18:26 | oleonard | ...and "yarn install" before you can run "yarn build" |
| 18:26 | cait | hm the yarn isntall is the issue i guess |
| 18:26 | the can rebuild css now | |
| 18:26 | kidclamp | is that ahtens or your test server owen? |
| 18:26 | cait | the sandboxes |
| 18:26 | wahanui | the sandboxes are down apparently |
| 18:26 | cait | kidclamp: can you get onto the sandboxes? |
| 18:26 | oleonard | kidclamp testing |
| 18:29 | kidclamp | no cait, pinging khall |
| 18:30 | cait | just though ti might be nice to get more eyes on it - but hope it works heh :) |
| 18:32 | kidclamp++ thx for the suggestions one | |
| 18:33 | amoyano | cait: let me see if I can get up a server with this patches |
| 18:33 | khall_ | sandboxes down again? something odd is happening |
| 18:33 | wonder if it's the same issue | |
| 18:33 | cait | mplate process failed: undef error - DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Unknown column 'unfiltered' in 'where clause' at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/Koha/Objects.pm line 145 at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 122 |
| 18:33 | dbic? | |
| 18:33 | khall_: n panic, they are good | |
| 18:34 | i was just trying to set up one with amoyano's branch for a vue circ rule editor | |
| 18:34 | I was thinking it might be nice to get the kohacon crowd to take a look | |
| 18:34 | tcohen | yes yes! |
| 18:34 | khall_ | cait something caused the container to restart, but koha-testing-docker can't handle that so it goes into an error loop |
| 18:35 | cait | oh, so maybe i broke something when i treid to set one upß |
| 18:35 | I was using the remote branch settings | |
| 18:36 | amoyano: the local one seems to working now - just forgot the restart_all | |
| 18:36 | amoyano | so it works? |
| 18:36 | cait | i think so, have to try out some things to tell more |
| 18:36 | amoyano | yey \o/ |
| 18:38 | cait | amoyano: how can i set a rule for a library + certain itemtype? |
| 18:39 | ah ok, i select on the left and on the right it shows | |
| 18:39 | amoyano | yes |
| 18:40 | you can select multiple libraries, categories or item types (ctrl + clic in the left list) and then toggle between them in the right section | |
| 18:41 | if you are on mac it's cmd+click | |
| 18:41 | cait | hm i think what i miss a little is an overview of set rules |
| 18:42 | it' shard to see what you already configured and to see where something might be missing | |
| 18:42 | i do like breaking it up into different sets of rules - holds, fines, etc. | |
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| 18:44 | amoyano | well, it's a first draft, and everything is perfectible |
| 18:44 | khall_ | It looks like postfix sink is failing to install, imma ping martin, it's his code that I don't grok :) |
| 18:45 | cait | but it looks quite cool :) |
| 18:46 | tcohen | besides the UX proposal by amoyano, the idea is to ponder the tools (Vue.js) |
| 18:46 | because there was an alternate proposal implemented with React.js | |
| 18:47 | but I guess KohCon is a great time to test UX as well! | |
| 18:47 | amoyano | Another thing a librarian suggested to me was to be able to update multiple rules at once.. for example to set automatic renewal for many kinds of patrons at once |
| 18:48 | I think it would be a cool feature to add | |
| 18:49 | cait | i think that works with yours, doesn't? |
| 18:49 | the strg + click to select multiple might need a hint :) ubt it works | |
| 18:49 | i wonder if someone could rebase the other | |
| 18:50 | i have never seen it and i fail to rebase it myself for comparison | |
| 18:51 | libraries here often want an export to excel or similar | |
| 18:52 | i wonder if we could still offer a table "view" that is not necessarily used for editing | |
| 18:52 | but with nice filter an dsort options | |
| 18:52 | and column visibility | |
| 18:52 | and all the nice stuff we can do to tables now | |
| 18:52 | amoyano | cait: https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]ee/bz-15522-react |
| 18:53 | cait | thx amoyano |
| 18:56 | trying that now too | |
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| 19:05 | cait | i like about the react one, that can see more information |
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| 19:05 | cait | but i am not so much a fan of the horizotal scrolling |
| 19:06 | and having the options listed vertically (lik ein the vue one) is easier readable | |
| 19:06 | than the column horizontal column headings | |
| 19:06 | phew | |
| 19:06 | not easy | |
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| 19:40 | mtj | Hey folks.. Can someone from bywater kick Jenkins node 1 pleeeese?. |
| 19:40 | cait | khall_: kidclamp maybe? |
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| 19:57 | caroline | hello everyone! |
| 19:58 | marie-luce | morning all |
| 19:58 | lisettelatah | hello! |
| 19:59 | * cait | waves |
| 20:00 | caroline | I'm really looking forward to this first talk |
| 20:01 | lisettelatah | me too |
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| 20:07 | aleisha_kohacon | Julius is awesome! |
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| 20:20 | * oleonard-away | is feeling like the teacher is about to read his term paper in front of the whole class |
| 20:20 | georgewilliams | We're not grading you. |
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| 20:21 | davidnind | this is a great presentation - having trouble keeping up! |
| 20:22 | georgewilliams | yes. this is an awesome presentation |
| 20:24 | lisettelatah | I'm definitely bookmarking this one to rewatch later a few times and to share with the other people on our website team. |
| 20:25 | caroline | the menu example is impactful |
| 20:26 | tcohen | caroline I've added the gitlab support for installing plugins |
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| 20:27 | georgewilliams | Our office manages 40 or 50 websites for libraries in Kansas. The staff members that manage those sites need to see this. |
| 20:27 | caroline | what do you mean? As opposed to github? |
| 20:27 | tcohen | yes |
| 20:27 | we now support both | |
| 20:27 | caroline | ok cool! |
| 20:28 | tcohen | bug 24633 |
| 20:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24633 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add support for gitlab searching of plugins |
| 20:28 | tcohen | Theke's plugin live on Gitlab |
| 20:28 | :-D | |
| 20:28 | you reminded me yesterday about this | |
| 20:28 | haha | |
| 20:28 | caroline | hehe! at least my talk was helpful ;) |
| 20:30 | tcohen | it was! |
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| 20:50 | cait | hi tosca |
| 20:50 | :) | |
| 20:50 | tosca | hi good morning from NZ! |
| 20:50 | caroline | hi tosca! |
| 20:56 | tosca | how are you both?? |
| 20:57 | cait | all good |
| 20:57 | caroline | good! That first talk was *chef's kiss* |
| 20:58 | cait | apart from having to knit back becuase i just realized i was so fascinated listening I fell into the wrong pattern :) |
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| 21:00 | tuxayo | he he |
| 21:00 | btw hi #koha o/ | |
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| 21:08 | caroline | I don't get the periodicals point... aren't serial issues already treated like items? |
| 21:09 | rangi | if you make items for them, then yes |
| 21:09 | cait | hm |
| 21:09 | rangi | maybe they are not making item records for them> |
| 21:09 | ? | |
| 21:09 | caroline | I know of only a few libraries that don't create items |
| 21:10 | all the libraries here circulate magazine issues | |
| 21:10 | rangi | something will need more info on before we start working on it |
| 21:10 | lisettelatah | I asked on the sli.do what specifically she'd like to see there. |
| 21:10 | cait | i think the special librrareis don't tend to lend the single issues, but often it depends |
| 21:11 | like in-house vs external | |
| 21:11 | because they are collecting and worried about issues being lost | |
| 21:11 | caroline | but the option is there, so that's why I'm confused |
| 21:11 | cait | the hold issue might be solved by khall's volume holds feature it ested |
| 21:11 | i just lost track if it passed or not | |
| 21:12 | caroline | I don't think anyone looks at slido |
| 21:12 | cait | it allows to group items on a record to be a "volume" so any of them can fill the hold |
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| 21:12 | caroline | oooh! |
| 21:12 | cait | i think answers might come later |
| 21:13 | caroline | I'm working on a migration right now and that is one of their problems |
| 21:13 | cait | cape! |
| 21:13 | caroline | They catalogued series into one record only |
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| 21:42 | cait | ah caroline - for bug 26697 - the original bug i filed is non-existnat - i just forgot to translate |
| 21:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Make translation file for types and descriptions of charges consistent between OPAC and staff |
| 21:43 | caroline | ah ok! |
| 21:43 | cait | we then changed the bug to bring the files that hold the translatable strings in line between staff and opac (well martin did) so they would be easier to maintain |
| 21:43 | and not get missed so easily | |
| 21:43 | so ... if you see the translations before and after it's all good | |
| 21:43 | caroline | ok I can sign off then, I guess... SHould I check for something else? |
| 21:45 | cait | hm i don't think so |
| 21:45 | if you have a couple different kinds of transactions that should be ok | |
| 21:46 | caroline | Do I just sign off as usual? I don't remember if I ever did one with dependencies before |
| 21:47 | I'm afraid it will attach the other patches too | |
| 21:47 | cait | it should be ok |
| 21:47 | what commands are you using? | |
| 21:48 | caroline | I use this https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ation#Signing_off |
| 21:48 | git commit --amend -s and then git attach etc | |
| 21:49 | cait | ah ok |
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| 21:49 | cait | you are in a git installation :) |
| 21:49 | do you have git bz? | |
| 21:49 | caroline | yes! hehe! |
| 21:49 | yes git bz | |
| 21:49 | cait | ok |
| 21:49 | then sign off as usual | |
| 21:49 | and git bz attach -e HEAD (HEAD = just the last patch) | |
| 21:49 | caroline | ok! anyway, someone can always undo what I do if it's wrong |
| 21:50 | cait | yep, nothing can break |
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| 21:50 | cait | hi kivilahtio! |
| 21:50 | hearing lots of impressive presentations form finland these days! | |
| 21:50 | oh | |
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| 21:51 | lari | cait: i doubt he is online but i'll forward your message to him |
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| 21:52 | cait | thx :) |
| 21:55 | kivilahtio | cait: yes, we have impressive people :) |
| 21:58 | cait | and impressive libraries :) |
| 21:58 | caroline | Is there a way to add alt text to images in the manual? |
| 21:59 | cait | excellent question |
| 21:59 | dunno | |
| 21:59 | kivilahtio | I heard in KohaCon there is some discussion about library automation? |
| 22:00 | caroline | ah, we have to add it in the images.rst file maybe? https://sublime-and-sphinx-gui[…]atest/images.html |
| 22:00 | cait | what part of automation? |
| 22:00 | kivilahtio | I managed to develop and put into production some units of our Free and Open hardware library self-checkout devices. It was a crazy project |
| 22:00 | it works only with Koha presently | |
| 22:00 | uses the REST API and some screen scraping | |
| 22:00 | no SIP2 whatsoever | |
| 22:00 | cait | free RFID hardware? readers and the like? |
| 22:01 | kivilahtio | yes |
| 22:01 | Free and Open hardware and software | |
| 22:01 | cait | have you worked on writing to tags too by chance? |
| 22:01 | i had a library asking about this recently | |
| 22:01 | kivilahtio | https://github.com/Hypernova-Oy/lainuri |
| 22:02 | cait: we have the technology to read from tags. And I studied the RFID standards, so I can implement a driver to to the RFID tag writing using the library RFID data compaction schemes | |
| 22:02 | cait: I started work on that to create some test tags, but didn't really need that, so didint implement it | |
| 22:02 | but we can build whole devices and ship them abroad | |
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| 22:03 | cait | really interesting |
| 22:03 | kivilahtio | cait: actually I was planning to implement a Python Library which would deal with reading and writing to RFID tags |
| 22:03 | cait: but we didn't get enough funding | |
| 22:03 | cait: If we can get more people interested about this FOSS Self-checkout/checkin device, that would be cool | |
| 22:03 | cait | so you will be independent now from the sip vendors? or be one? :) |
| 22:03 | kivilahtio | it even does RFID stack checkin/out |
| 22:04 | so you can place 5-8 books on the RFID reader and it visualizes the individual transactions, and does sorting etc | |
| 22:04 | I hate SIP2, that's why I created Lainuri | |
| 22:05 | it is a zero-hassle device. You just point it ot Koha staff client base url, and it figures the rest out itself | |
| 22:05 | or that is the theory :) | |
| 22:05 | no fiddlign with SIP2 config or firewalls | |
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| 22:06 | cait | sounds nice |
| 22:06 | kivilahtio | sure |
| 22:06 | cait | they are not back yet right? |
| 22:06 | kivilahtio | and it even works :D |
| 22:06 | davidnind | Starting back now.... |
| 22:07 | cait | ah yep |
| 22:07 | thx :) | |
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| 22:12 | kivilahtio | cait: And I also always kinda wanted to make a FOSS self-checkout device. How hard could that really be :) Apparently with RFID rather hard. Especially with stack checkout/in. |
| 22:12 | Really the motivation was mostly to give something back to the library community in Finland, as a thanks for letting me work there for so long. I have good memories of a lot of good people. It was a tremendous personal effort, and I hope people will find it helpful. | |
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| 22:13 | kivilahtio | But time will tell. I am so busy with a lot of projects these days, so I don't have time to actually promote the thing, so any help would be much appreciated. |
| 22:14 | cait | i will keep the link bookmarked :) |
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| 22:15 | kivilahtio | cait: thanks! |
| 22:16 | henryb | This self-checkout device sounds awesome, kivilahtio |
| 22:16 | kivilahtio | henryb: it is very good. The UI needs polish, but it actualyl works |
| 22:16 | and has been servicing libary users for some months now | |
| 22:17 | considering that it was a one-man project. I am really hapyp about it | |
| 22:17 | henryb | Very impressive! |
| 22:18 | kivilahtio | I had to do everything from finding suppliers, to negotiating with them, doing customs, CAD design to build custom enclosures, the clients can choose own colour and engravings. Implement device integrations with C and Python. Write RFID encoding schemes. Backend Front-end databases, you name it :D |
| 22:18 | also electronic design, with power levels etc. | |
| 22:18 | I also designed a free and open hardware and software library access control device | |
| 22:19 | it has been in use for 6 years now. Very very realiable things that endure harsh Finnish weather conditions | |
| 22:20 | henryb: https://github.com/Hypernova-Oy/emb-toveri | |
| 22:20 | the pictures are from the first generation | |
| 22:20 | presently redesigning the whole things to add a vandal and weather proof keypad. | |
| 22:20 | The access control device also comes with custom enclosure. | |
| 22:21 | caroline | Is there a list/kanban/wiki page of things that are going to be worked on during the DIY days? |
| 22:21 | cait | i was wondering the same |
| 22:22 | henryb | Thinking back to the excellent web accessibility talk by Julius earlier, I think there are some low contrast issues with the default koha OPAC CSS. Can I file this as one bug or should I do bugs for each issue? |
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| 22:23 | cait | you could create an omnibus for contrast |
| 22:23 | and then file the separate issues linked to that | |
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| 22:25 | henryb | Ok thanks cait I'll do that. But not just now, I should definitely go and get some sleep |
| 22:25 | cait | understandable :) |
| 22:25 | sleep well! | |
| 22:25 | henryb | Bye! |
| 22:25 | caroline | good night henryb! |
| 22:28 | kivilahtio | gn |
| 22:31 | marie-luce | virtual hug |
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| 22:39 | * cait | sends cookies to everyone |
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| 22:49 | davidnind | Lots of LOL here at Kohacon20 - Fred is awesome! |
| 22:49 | cait | yep |
| 22:49 | wonder if he has put in some poetry too | |
| 22:49 | caroline | Fred's talks are always a laugh XD |
| 22:50 | My first contact with Fred's world was a poem about a dying printer | |
| 22:50 | Kohacon18, it was great | |
| 22:51 | georgewilliams | don't encourage him |
| 22:53 | cait | i loved it too :) |
| 22:53 | georgewilliams | my favorite Fred poem is the one about the access code in the back of the book |
| 22:53 | cait | :) |
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| 23:09 | tosca | cait: fully understand you re knit back. i often have to go back when i get distracted while crocheting |
| 23:10 | cait | i've put it aside for tonight - knitting 2 colors and i really don't want to discover more mistakes in the morning :) |
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| 23:11 | caroline | oh, I guess I'll have to connect to Twitter for the awards discussion |
| 23:12 | cait | hm? |
| 23:14 | caroline | I don't know Kathryn said for online ppl the discussion during the awards will be on Twitter |
| 23:15 | davidnind | It will be streamed as well - she would love members of the community to be around https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]0/Programme#Day_3 |
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| 23:23 | cait | so... nap or QA? |
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| 23:27 | caroline | do you think you'll be able to wake upafter a nap? |
| 23:30 | cait | yeah... that#s the big question |
| 23:30 | i think i might instead stare at code :) | |
| 23:31 | if someone else feels like not sleeping - we shoudl start marking some Academy bugs too :) | |
| 23:32 | * oleonard | is not sleeping... but it's still too early for that to be unusual |
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| 23:50 | davidnind | I'll drink some coffee for you! |
| 23:50 | and try not to put you to sleep with my Wikidata talk... | |
| 23:55 | marie-luce | I'm looking forward to your presentation David |
| 23:55 | cait | maybe i shoudl have taken the nap looking at my chaos on bugzilla |
| 23:57 | davidnind | marie-luce: I'm wondering what I'm going to say show too... (no pressure :-D) |
| 23:58 | marie-luce | I'm sure you are good to improvise! |
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