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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:08 | Papyrikids joined #koha | |
| 00:21 | cait | oleonard: around? |
| 00:30 | does someone know which schema these callnumbers are? | |
| 00:30 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25897 | |
| 00:30 | huginn | Bug 25897: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Inventory table call number sort should use cn_sort value |
| 00:31 | cait | is that LOC? |
| 00:42 | dcook | I can take a peek |
| 00:43 | It's been a while since I classified or shelved anything, but yeah I'd say LOC/LC | |
| 00:44 | LOC/LCC* | |
| 00:46 | Ahh and I see Nick's point.. | |
| 00:46 | I mean... "B 29" seems like an error in any case.. | |
| 00:47 | Although... boy you can tell I haven't done this in a while | |
| 00:47 | I guess not.. | |
| 00:47 | As we used to print labels where we just have the letters on top.. | |
| 00:49 | Looks like a college so yeah LCC for sure | |
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| 01:04 | cait | thx dcook - the tests seem to go that direction too |
| 01:04 | dcook | cool |
| 01:05 | Really intrigued by bug 23823 | |
| 01:05 | cait | I've uploaded a possible solution by now :) |
| 01:05 | dcook | Nice one |
| 01:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, helix84, Passed QA , Allow system preferences to be bookmarked |
| 01:05 | dcook | I was looking at the thread, and recognized the name Ivan Masar and helix84 |
| 01:05 | He's been a DSpace contributor for quite a few years | |
| 01:05 | Cool to see him contributing to Koha now too | |
| 01:05 | cait | i think this was his first patch |
| 01:05 | dcook | I think so too |
| 01:06 | cait | hope we didn't scare him off |
| 01:06 | dcook | Heh |
| 01:06 | I wondered that a bit | |
| 01:06 | DSpace is quite a different model to ours | |
| 01:06 | Although we have many more contributors I think | |
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| 01:17 | caroline | davidnind++ |
| 01:17 | cait | starting again :) |
| 01:18 | dcook | Audio is a bit spotty with this session :( |
| 01:18 | But go davidnind :D | |
| 01:19 | caroline | audio is fine for me but the visual is pixelated |
| 01:20 | cait | still ok here |
| 01:20 | davidnind++ | |
| 01:21 | dcook | Hmm visual is great for me |
| 01:21 | I think the audio may have been a little browser glitch for me | |
| 01:21 | Well youtube glitch | |
| 01:21 | Got the audio slider stuck to my mouse. Anyway doesn't matter heh | |
| 01:23 | caroline | marieluce helped me with the visual, much better now! |
| 01:25 | lisettelatah | where are logs in the devbox? |
| 01:27 | cait | hm which ines are you looking for? |
| 01:28 | hayley_kohacon | caroline glad it's better now! I'm monitoring the stream the whole day so I will hopefully catch any issues on our end pretty quickly :) |
| 01:28 | lisettelatah | intranet error |
| 01:28 | cait | http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/ |
| 01:28 | ? | |
| 01:28 | the newer ones have this button | |
| 01:29 | lisettelatah | not on sandboxes, on devbox on my machine |
| 01:29 | cait | oh |
| 01:29 | first try koha-plack-err | |
| 01:29 | kohadevbox or docker? | |
| 01:30 | lisettelatah | kohadevbox |
| 01:30 | cait | ok |
| 01:30 | usually they end up in the plack error log then | |
| 01:31 | there are some alias commands that you can use: | |
| 01:31 | koha-intra-err: tail the intranet error log | |
| 01:31 | koha-opac-err: tail the OPAC error log | |
| 01:31 | koha-plack-log: tail the Plack access log | |
| 01:31 | koha-plack-err: tail de Plack error log | |
| 01:33 | lisettelatah | cait++ |
| 01:33 | dcook | interesting |
| 01:33 | Ultimately it'll be /var/log/koha/kohadev/<filename> | |
| 01:34 | Really intrigued by davidnind's talk | |
| 01:34 | I like this topic-based approach idea | |
| 01:36 | caroline | That's where we'd like to be going... It's just hard to switch and we're so behind |
| 01:37 | What's missing is the how to go from 1.0 to 4.0 | |
| 01:37 | lisettelatah | caroline when is the next community education meeting? |
| 01:37 | caroline | we didn't set a date last time :( |
| 01:38 | I should write to the liste see if anyoe is interested in doing another one | |
| 01:38 | rangi | i think have to go to 2.0 first |
| 01:38 | caroline | I think we're already at 2.0 |
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| 01:40 | caroline | I feel like shouting WE ACCEPT EVERYONE! NO KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED! |
| 01:40 | cait | heh |
| 01:40 | caroline | Send us a word document and we'll be dancing! |
| 01:40 | marie-luce | davidnind++ |
| 01:41 | hayley_kohacon | davidnind++ wonderful talk! |
| 01:41 | caroline | davidnind++ |
| 01:41 | lisettelatah | davidnind++ |
| 01:41 | hayley_kohacon | I'm excited to get involved with documentation where I can, thank you for being welcoming caroline! |
| 01:41 | caroline++ | |
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| 01:44 | lisettelatah | caroline what about trying to do a meeting during Koha DIY later this week? |
| 01:45 | caroline | good idea! |
| 01:45 | dcook | I feel like it was just a couple years ago that you were starting out caroline, and now you're the pro |
| 01:45 | caroline | After all, that idea started at kohacon last year |
| 01:45 | dcook: lol! | |
| 01:46 | diving in and making mistakes is the best way to learn | |
| 01:46 | marie-luce | I'm taking notes! |
| 01:49 | dcook | caroline: That's how I've done it too heh |
| 01:49 | And since you put it that way... that's not a bad philosophy to have about life heh | |
| 01:50 | caroline | yeah, if only you could git reset in life though |
| 01:50 | dcook | It's a shame we're virtual this year. Otherwise I'd cheers a beer to that |
| 01:51 | caroline | git revert that-time-I-said-something-really-stupid |
| 01:51 | dcook | heh |
| 01:53 | I'm so not used to hearing North American accents.. heh | |
| 01:53 | Having flashbacks to Kohacon2018 too | |
| 01:54 | hayley_kohacon | It's really cool hearing all the different accents of people in the community, it's one thing to say 'more than 15,000 libraries world wide' and another to hear it and see it for real! |
| 01:54 | carlos | question about the live feed- a couple of us have had to refresh the youtube page for the afternoon session - any idea why that might be? |
| 01:55 | rangi | hmm youtube being weird is all i can think of carlos |
| 01:56 | dcook | Yeah the live feed has been going all right over here in Australia |
| 01:56 | so true hayley_kohacon | |
| 01:56 | hayley_kohacon | hm carlos it's been pretty stable for me, every so often it buffers a little bit but I don't think that's happened this afternoon yet |
| 01:56 | dcook | Yeah it's been so smooth for me so far |
| 01:56 | hayley_kohacon | probably a bit different me being in the room and all! |
| 01:57 | georgewilliams | I've had the feed going on my computer in the USA for 6 hours with no problem |
| 01:57 | dcook | Loving this bit about the myth vs reality |
| 01:57 | So true | |
| 01:57 | hayley_kohacon | absolutely |
| 01:59 | dcook | So glad we had that fun run in Portland.. |
| 01:59 | I don't think I'd ever talked to Jessie before | |
| 01:59 | But then I think we ended up having friends of friends in common or something | |
| 01:59 | The world is so small O_O | |
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| 01:59 | dcook | Like non-Koha friends of friends heh |
| 02:06 | jzairo | :) |
| 02:07 | caroline | great presentation jzairo :) |
| 02:07 | carlos | oh well - thanks rangi and hayley - we'll just have to keep an eye on it |
| 02:08 | jzairo | thanks @caroline |
| 02:08 | dcook | Yeah that was really interesting jzairo |
| 02:08 | jzairo | always happy to share ideas! |
| 02:09 | marie-luce | jzairo++ |
| 02:09 | rangi | jzairo: there was lots of nodding in the auditorium |
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| 02:09 | jzairo | :) we want to get the word out to everyone ! |
| 02:09 | dcook | Are these talks going to be posted for later too? |
| 02:09 | I feel like that's one I could really re-visit multiple times | |
| 02:09 | rangi | yep |
| 02:09 | cait | tea break again i think |
| 02:09 | dcook | :D |
| 02:10 | rangi | the streams will be up as recorded ones as soon as we finish today |
| 02:10 | dcook | That's great |
| 02:10 | rangi | but then over the next 2 weeks we will cut them up and upload them as individual talks too |
| 02:10 | dcook | Great |
| 02:10 | cait | 4:10 am and still awake... my week long training pays off :D |
| 02:10 | rangi | heheh |
| 02:10 | caroline | definitely will be forwarding that one to my boss hehe! |
| 02:10 | dcook | I was a bit skeptical about participating virtually, but it's so nice being able to interact here on IRC and other electronic media |
| 02:10 | rangi | its afternoon tea here now, then joy |
| 02:10 | dcook | cait: Glad to have you :D |
| 02:10 | rangi | you're missing some good food |
| 02:11 | dcook | Speaking of food, I need to have a late lunch >_> |
| 02:11 | rangi | https://twitter.com/scrummyscr[…]17973077590863872 |
| 02:11 | dcook | So Joy in about 39 minutes? |
| 02:11 | rangi | the cinammon scrolls are vegan |
| 02:11 | marie-luce | wow |
| 02:11 | dcook | Ohhh |
| 02:11 | I haven't had a good cinnamon scroll in years.. | |
| 02:11 | marie-luce | who bake those? |
| 02:11 | dcook | There was a vegan cafe back in Saskatchewan that had the best ones of my life (other than grandma's of course) |
| 02:12 | rangi | marie-luce: did you ever meet sol at catalyst when you were here? |
| 02:12 | scrummy scrolls is her side business | |
| 02:12 | dcook | Catch everyone in a bit |
| 02:12 | marie-luce | when did she start at Catalyst? |
| 02:15 | caroline | cait did you make much progress on your knitting for this first day of conference? |
| 02:15 | cait | ah actually a little bit |
| 02:16 | 4 rows on the two colored scard - i am at the last pattern repeat so the rows are getting quite long | |
| 02:16 | caroline | is it a triangle shawl? |
| 02:26 | cait | yep |
| 02:26 | but a row is the 2 sides together | |
| 02:27 | so not the long side.. but the 2 equal sided sides | |
| 02:27 | ... does that make any sense? | |
| 02:27 | it's long! | |
| 02:31 | caroline | yes, I've made triagles before... it starts ok and at the end one row is ugh! |
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| 02:44 | cait1 | :) |
| 02:48 | rangi | sorry got distracted by food |
| 02:48 | marie-luce: she was there before I started | |
| 02:50 | marie-luce | we've probably met then |
| 02:51 | rangi | I think you would have :) small world eh |
| 02:53 | cait1 | it's still the starting slide, right? |
| 02:53 | caroline | are the slides rolling? |
| 02:53 | cait1 | ok, not only me then :) |
| 02:54 | georgewilliams | I was about to ask if there were supposed to be other slides |
| 02:54 | cait1 | now they moved |
| 02:54 | marie-luce | me too |
| 02:54 | rangi | heh yeah |
| 02:54 | i was just wondering that myself :) | |
| 02:55 | (we are watching the same stream as you in the auditorium at the moment, we flick between watching people in person, and hten watching the youtube stream) | |
| 02:56 | our great colleague and friend rebecca is back at catalyst mixing the video frm here, plus the pre recorded talks, into one stream out | |
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| 03:01 | caroline | is it legal, lol! |
| 03:02 | georgewilliams | The best ideas usually are not. |
| 03:10 | dcook | Hmm did I miss Joy's talk all together? |
| 03:11 | davidnind | no, still running |
| 03:11 | dcook | Oh Youtube says standby? |
| 03:11 | "Stay tuned for our next speaker"? | |
| 03:11 | Oh weird | |
| 03:11 | Refreshed and all good | |
| 03:11 | So people bash open source | |
| 03:12 | But you can be a multibillion dollar company and have proprietary software that still needs a good ol' Shift+F5 | |
| 03:12 | rangi | heh |
| 03:12 | kathryn is gonna do an end of day wrap up now | |
| 03:13 | dcook | She's coming through loud and clear :D |
| 03:13 | rangi | hopefully you are all hearing her |
| 03:13 | sweet | |
| 03:15 | dcook | "Chris Cormack probably tweeted it because it was food" |
| 03:15 | heh | |
| 03:15 | rangi | its funny cos its true |
| 03:15 | dcook | That lunch photo of yours did make me extra hungry |
| 03:17 | Ahh kathryn is too funny | |
| 03:17 | rangi | shes a pretty good boss to have :) |
| 03:22 | marie-luce | o for awesome! |
| 03:23 | dcook | Well that was great |
| 03:23 | carlos | yeah nice - more tomorrow! |
| 03:23 | caroline | cool! |
| 03:23 | cait1 | kind of went quick today! |
| 03:23 | dcook | So quick! |
| 03:23 | caroline | good night and talk tomorrow! :) |
| 03:23 | cait1 | what's the plan for dinner? heh |
| 03:23 | dcook | Of course, every work day for me goes quickly... heh |
| 03:23 | lisettelatah | good night everyone! See you tomorrow |
| 03:23 | dcook | Ooh yeah what's on for dinner? |
| 03:23 | night lisette | |
| 03:24 | I've only been to Wellington once and I did not get to sample enough food last time.. | |
| 03:24 | #futuregoals | |
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| 03:25 | cait1 | rangi: I think you actually misssed tweeting the food from tea breaks... |
| 03:25 | more food pics :) | |
| 03:28 | marie-luce | good night everyone |
| 03:39 | aleisha_kohacon | tomorrow's livestream link: https://youtu.be/-Q05J_3GIOI |
| 03:48 | dcook | Just got the email :D |
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| 06:15 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 06:18 | simon_ | hi |
| 06:19 | i get "Invalid marclist field provided: lc-card-number" for my authority matching rule on 010$a after switching to elastic search | |
| 06:21 | lc-card-number is already added in the default search engine configuration | |
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| 06:36 | simon_ | ok, so i added the field name in /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/QueryBuilder.pm to $koha_to_index_name and now the matching rule works |
| 06:41 | ashimema | Dang.. so one still needs to modify a hard coded list somewhere for this stuff do they... I thought that had been fixed for ES |
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| 06:46 | magnuse | simon_: which version are you on? |
| 06:48 | simon_ | no we are not on the newest version |
| 06:48 | i just saw you guys/girls fixed some stuff 19.11 | |
| 06:48 | we are still 19.05 | |
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| 06:51 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:17 | magnuse | huh? branchcode can't be included in PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField? |
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| 08:47 | simon_ | is it possible to create a report with a "where in <list of values>"? |
| 08:48 | i mean <<list of values>> | |
| 08:48 | i currently get Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference | |
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| 09:40 | severine_q | morning #koha ! |
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| 10:25 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 10:31 | severine_q | hi oleonard ! |
| 10:32 | not very crowdy today :/ | |
| 10:33 | oleonard | Everyone hung over from KohaCon day 1? :) |
| 10:33 | I know folks stayed up late for it (not me) | |
| 10:35 | severine_q | me neather :) |
| 10:36 | replay is nice ! | |
| 10:42 | * magnuse | neither |
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| 11:30 | oleonard | Is there going to be a bug-squashing session during KohaCon? I don't see it in the schedule |
| 11:30 | * oleonard | asks this question to the empty void |
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| 11:49 | severine_q | oleonard, I think there is on day 6 and 7 |
| 11:49 | well, that's how I understood from description :) | |
| 11:50 | *the description ! but my english is bad since a few weeks :) | |
| 11:58 | oleonard | Ah right, I was looking here, https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]haCon20/Programme, which is only for live stream stuff |
| 11:58 | davidnind | Days 6 and 7 - They've called it working together |
| 11:59 | oleonard | Hi davidnind, how did your talk go? |
| 11:59 | davidnind | okay I think... |
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| 12:05 | ashimema | did I imagine a timestamped version of the recorded stream? |
| 12:06 | aha.. it's in the description but not actually highlighted in the video location bar | |
| 12:30 | magnuse | davidnind++ |
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| 12:53 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 12:53 | :) | |
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| 12:54 | magnuse | "The method Koha::Patron->add_extended_attribute is not covered by tests!" isn't that the modern way to add an attribute to a patron? |
| 12:54 | cait | restart_all? |
| 12:58 | magnuse | not running under plack this time |
| 12:59 | cait | so... what are you trying to do and where? maybe we can spot the mistake |
| 13:00 | magnuse | trying to adapt opac/svc/auth/googleopenidconnect to talk to another OpenID provider |
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| 13:02 | magnuse | on line 221 i change the categorycode, whcich works fine: $borrower->categorycode( 'BRUKER' ); |
| 13:02 | then i try to set an attribute: $borrower->add_extended_attribute({ 'code' => 'PNR', 'attribute' => $pnr }); | |
| 13:03 | ashimema | sounds about right to me |
| 13:03 | weird | |
| 13:08 | magnuse | gah, pebkac! i was looking up add_extended_attribute on a newer version of the code than the one i was actually working on... |
| 13:10 | cait | oh so it doesn't exist yet? |
| 13:17 | magnuse | exactly... |
| 13:17 | cait | I have to admit, th eerror is not very helpful |
| 13:18 | at least it always leaves me slightly puzzled too | |
| 13:35 | severine_q | cait you're so quick !! you're welcome :) |
| 13:36 | cait | :) |
| 13:51 | tuxayo | lukeG around? |
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| 14:15 | lukeG | Hi tuxayo |
| 14:15 | henryb | Does anyone use koha-testing-docker with their own dummy data? Is it easy to do? |
| 14:18 | cait | henryb: sorry, still on kohadevbox with sample data |
| 14:19 | i think i shoudl not be too hard to load a database you prepared with the standard tools, but no sure how to make that happen automatically | |
| 14:19 | ashimema | erm |
| 14:19 | there is a way to do that.. | |
| 14:19 | * ashimema | tries to find the docs for it. |
| 14:20 | severine_q | cait : i did a bad thing on bz 6819... |
| 14:20 | :( | |
| 14:20 | cait | bug 6819 |
| 14:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6819 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Don't offer cancel order links for received order lines on basket summary |
| 14:20 | cait | did you fail it? :) |
| 14:21 | ah, one patch too many? | |
| 14:21 | severine_q | i failed attaching patch, there is one coming form another bug but I don't know what happened ... |
| 14:21 | i am sorry :/ | |
| 14:21 | cait | no problem :) |
| 14:21 | do you know how many times i typo or similr? | |
| 14:22 | do you want me to help you fix it? | |
| 14:22 | tuxayo | lukeGhi :) if the release is the 27th, then the string freeze should be around now right? |
| 14:22 | ashimema | I've done that soooooo many times severine_q .. easily done |
| 14:23 | severine_q | cait : oh yes, i'll be happy to un-mess this ! |
| 14:23 | i now feel better :) | |
| 14:28 | ashimema | tcohen, kidclamp.. can you remind me (and henryb) how to get k-t-d to load with your own DB? |
| 14:29 | cait | severine_q: sorry, i was a bit distracted |
| 14:29 | what you can do first is fix bugzilla | |
| 14:30 | do a git bz edit 6819 and uncomment (remove the #) from the wrong patch | |
| 14:30 | this will make it obsolete in bugzilla and all will be as before | |
| 14:31 | ashimema | or jsut go into Bugzilla itself, click to edit the attachemnt and select the obsolete box |
| 14:31 | cait | yep |
| 14:31 | both work :) | |
| 14:33 | General reminder: time this week to go wild with the Academy keyword (but only sandbox testable bugs with good test plans please! | |
| 14:33 | severine_q | cait, no problem |
| 14:34 | thanks ashimema cait, i need to remember that ! | |
| 14:35 | ashimema | henryb kp (instead of ku) will give you database persistence between uses of koha-testing-docker |
| 14:35 | I'm still reminding myself how to load my own data into it.. | |
| 14:35 | Joubu is out this week.. but he's working on some improvements around this too I believe | |
| 14:36 | cait | severine_q: looks good now on the bug, you ok with the next steps repeating the sign-off? |
| 14:36 | severine_q | cait ashimema : should I obsolete comment #10 too using a specific tag ? |
| 14:37 | cait | trying to remember... i thin it's obsolete too but not sure |
| 14:37 | severine_q | yes cait, i'm going to do a nice & clean sign off now ! |
| 14:37 | cait | you don#t have to, but you can if you want |
| 14:37 | severine_q | thanks a lot ! |
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| 14:39 | lukeG | tuxayo: i think we decided on October 20 for the string freeze |
| 14:40 | henryb | Thanks ashimema! Is kp the same as doing $ docker-compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.persistent.yml -p koha up ? I have no idea what that means but saw it on the KTD readme |
| 14:40 | ashimema | yes |
| 14:40 | it's exactly the same | |
| 14:41 | henryb | docker is so amazing because you can do so much without knowing how anything works! On the other hand, I have no idea how anything works! :D |
| 14:41 | ashimema | normally koha-testing-docker will throw away your database each time to restart it |
| 14:41 | with the 'persistent' thing above it'll let you keep the same one accross restarts | |
| 14:42 | hehe.. | |
| 14:42 | we all lean on the shoulders of giants there.. I'm still learning docker and often have to defer to the pros | |
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| 15:28 | cait | wonder if we could get some opinionson bug 25532? |
| 15:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, In Discussion , Add a wikipedia-style search suggestion feature to the OPAC |
| 15:32 | tuxayo | lukeGthanks, I couldn't find it. I'm reminding this for tomorrow. As for the recipients, koha-translate, koha-devel and BCC to bernardo right? |
| 15:32 | So we are more consistent in the announcements. | |
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| 16:04 | severine_q | cait, do you want Academy patchs to be kept for the squashing days at the end of week ? |
| 16:05 | cait | i filed them with the DIY in mind, but i am going to just make more :) |
| 16:05 | henryb | cait: bug 25532 looks interesting! I take your point about the lack of visibility if this doesn't go into Koha, especially given that we are a PTFS-E customer and I had still missed this feature (or possibly been told about it and forgotten) |
| 16:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, In Discussion , Add a wikipedia-style search suggestion feature to the OPAC |
| 16:05 | cait | work on anything you like severine_q |
| 16:06 | oleonard | severine_q: I added system preference comparison to the log viewer because it seemed like the type of log entry which would benefit from it. I hadn't thought of using it for the reports log because my reports log is always turned off :) |
| 16:07 | cait | henryb: please feel free to add a comment! i'd really love to unlock it one way or the other |
| 16:07 | henryb | Will the 20.05 roles be voted on at the next general meeting on 4 November? Just wondering how long I have to add my name |
| 16:07 | cait | and if you want to test, use the patch or jus add this to your OpacUserJs. http://paste.koha-community.org/25809 |
| 16:07 | i tihnk we need to vote there | |
| 16:07 | as november is already release date | |
| 16:07 | adding it to the agenda right away | |
| 16:08 | to explain - general are monthly so that's the last meeting before release | |
| 16:10 | henryb | Thanks cait |
| 16:10 | cait | henryb: and you should totally sign up :) |
| 16:10 | ashimema | I had intended to submit that wikipedia one as a plugin |
| 16:10 | but David beat me to it submitting it for core | |
| 16:11 | henryb :) | |
| 16:12 | severine_q | ok oleonard ! I think the same kind of comparison will be quite useful for Catalog module too |
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| 16:34 | oleonard | When I enter the "git bz attach" command I wish my computer would start playing an audible countdown clock because inevitably I get distracted and don't get back to it in time. |
| 16:35 | cait | i feel you :) |
| 16:40 | ashimema | Haha.. I do that too |
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| 17:28 | severine_q | good bye #koha ! |
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| 17:47 | tcohen | hola |
| 17:51 | tuxayo | o/ |
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| 18:51 | tcohen | anyone has the live stream channel ? |
| 18:54 | cait | i's too early i tihnk? |
| 18:54 | or do you mean the link? | |
| 18:55 | still an hour | |
| 18:55 | tcohen | the link |
| 18:55 | wahanui | the link is strange, add / at the end |
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| 19:56 | marie-luce | Hi all |
| 19:56 | cait | everyone on their seats and ready? :) |
| 19:57 | marie-luce | :) |
| 19:57 | carlos | yep - all set |
| 19:57 | caroline | yas! |
| 19:57 | still tweaking my presentation though... it's so me to do this last minute | |
| 19:57 | oleonard | I made it on time today! |
| 19:59 | cait | not hearing kathryn, should I? |
| 20:00 | carlos | not sure - i have no sound either |
| 20:00 | caroline | oh there's a chat on youtube today |
| 20:01 | oleonard | There we go |
| 20:01 | marie-luce | Yeah! |
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| 20:13 | oleonard | I love seeing those old screenshots |
| 20:13 | * oleonard | ages another 20 years |
| 20:16 | davidnind | LOL! |
| 20:17 | caroline | rangi looks like a gnagly teenager in that photo lol |
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| 20:21 | cait | oleonard: but you always look the same! :) |
| 20:21 | someone else had goosebumps for the "first downloads after hours"? :) | |
| 20:32 | caroline | librarians are important too :D |
| 20:34 | marie-luce | clap clap clap |
| 20:36 | * oleonard | runs off to cook |
| 20:56 | rangi | everyone say hi to mark our tech person |
| 20:56 | marie-luce | Hi Mark! |
| 20:56 | caroline | hi mark! great job so far! |
| 20:58 | aleisha++ | |
| 20:59 | alexbuckley++ | |
| 21:00 | rangi++ | |
| 21:01 | hayley++ | |
| 21:01 | fellow linguist! | |
| 21:02 | kathryn++ | |
| 21:02 | hayley | caroline++ |
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| 21:09 | rangi | the video play ok? |
| 21:09 | lisettelatah | yeah, it looks great |
| 21:11 | caroline | Koha good! |
| 21:11 | marie-luce | Koha community! |
| 21:11 | caroline | omg, this made me cry! so cute! |
| 21:12 | marie-luce | love it! |
| 21:13 | cait | koha good indeed :) |
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| 21:14 | tcohen | it was great, rangi |
| 21:14 | recovering my breath | |
| 21:16 | cait | beautiful conf morning |
| 21:16 | marie-luce | indeed |
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| 21:30 | tcohen | anyone knows what does it mean that someone 'managed' a purchase suggestion? Is it just the last user that changed some status? |
| 21:33 | lisettelatah | tcohen it seems (at least on 19.11) to be the last user that changed a status or edited the suggestion. |
| 21:33 | tcohen | thanks :-D |
| 21:33 | how would you call it in english | |
| 21:34 | in a way that tells that more precisely than managedby | |
| 21:34 | or manageddate | |
| 21:34 | lisettelatah | probably updatedby |
| 21:34 | tcohen | updated_by |
| 21:34 | cait | hm not sure |
| 21:34 | you can also set a manager now | |
| 21:34 | so you woudl be hte last one to update | |
| 21:35 | but the manager would be someone else | |
| 21:35 | and i think there is a last update date now | |
| 21:35 | i tihnk it's the person to decide about it | |
| 21:35 | if it gets accepted or rejected | |
| 21:35 | tcohen | yes, someone is in charge, but some others might change the status |
| 21:35 | cait | What's the context of the question? |
| 21:36 | lisettelatah | yeah it looks like 20.05 added bug 23590 |
| 21:36 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23590 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Add the ability to change the manager of a suggestion and notify the new manager |
| 21:36 | tcohen | cait: the API, and consistency. |
| 21:36 | cait | ah |
| 21:36 | tcohen | I was reviewing the RFC because the implementation looks wrong |
| 21:36 | some fields like that one don't look correct | |
| 21:37 | I want to propose a 'public' route to add suggestions | |
| 21:37 | and trying to figure which subset of the current fields should be publicly available | |
| 21:37 | managed doesn't look like important for a public route | |
| 21:37 | we only display the manager name | |
| 21:38 | cait | hm why not important? |
| 21:39 | tcohen | OpacSuggestionManagedBy allows to hide the manager |
| 21:39 | yet | |
| 21:39 | cait | in the opac |
| 21:39 | tcohen | manageddate and <status>date |
| 21:39 | cait | because you might not want to show staff names there |
| 21:39 | tcohen | are ambiguous |
| 21:40 | cait | hm a status change could also be setting to available or ordered |
| 21:40 | later in the process | |
| 21:40 | tcohen | so, some statuses would change manageddate and some others not? |
| 21:40 | I'll go test | |
| 21:42 | ah, any action changes managedby and manageddate | |
| 21:43 | cait | hm there is definitely a bug there currently |
| 21:43 | i was just testing what andrew supported | |
| 21:43 | i suppose some javascript issue | |
| 21:45 | tcohen | suggestion.pl has an Init sub |
| 21:45 | cait | bug 26738 |
| 21:45 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26738 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to change manager of purchase suggestion |
| 21:45 | tcohen | right |
| 21:45 | cait | tcohen: i sugggest talking to Joubu and Severine |
| 21:45 | her library is behind the recent enh | |
| 21:46 | tcohen | I guess updated_* doesn't fit, because we want to split between the user updating his suggestion, and the staff member doing stuff with it |
| 21:46 | cait | users can#t really update i think |
| 21:47 | only delete | |
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| 21:49 | lisettelatah | correct, patrons can only delete, not edit suggestions. |
| 22:00 | tcohen | right |
| 22:01 | would we, at some point want users to 'add' infrmation to existing suggestions? | |
| 22:01 | somehow? | |
| 22:01 | cait | hm |
| 22:01 | maybe a feedback thing | |
| 22:01 | like asking them to complete the information if it's not enough | |
| 22:01 | but i haven't seen a request for that so far | |
| 22:02 | tcohen | I wouldn't implement that |
| 22:02 | but wouldn't like the API design to prevent such things if someone wants that | |
| 22:02 | rangi | caroline++ |
| 22:02 | marie-luce | go Caroline! |
| 22:03 | caroline++ | |
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| 22:03 | tcohen | caroline++ |
| 22:04 | lisettelatah | caroline++ |
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| 22:10 | cait | caroline++ :) |
| 22:12 | davidnind | caroline++ |
| 22:13 | marie-luce | great presentation! |
| 22:13 | caroline | ugh,. I talk so fast when im nervous! |
| 22:14 | tosca | it was great! |
| 22:14 | caroline | sorry kathryn for making you imporvise lol! |
| 22:15 | cait | you did great |
| 22:15 | davidnind | any "weird" things libraries are cataloguing? |
| 22:16 | cait | keys |
| 22:16 | table fans | |
| 22:16 | caroline | rangi's pokemon catalog? |
| 22:16 | lisettelatah | At Latah County we have a curiosity collections which includes wireless hotspots, energy usage trackers, job hunting kit which includes a tie |
| 22:16 | cait | calculators |
| 22:16 | cake pans | |
| 22:16 | rangi | heh |
| 22:16 | georgewilliams | She mentioned that some of the NEKLS libraries have cake pans and bakeware. |
| 22:16 | cait | oh and my favourite |
| 22:16 | georgewilliams | We also have a library that just started checking out bicycles |
| 22:16 | lisettelatah | birdwatching and stargazing kits |
| 22:16 | tosca | i would love to see collections like that in NZ |
| 22:16 | cait | https://prag.bibliothek.goethe[…]sort_by=relevance |
| 22:16 | oh sorry for the evil link | |
| 22:17 | but it's just a koha, save to click :) | |
| 22:17 | georgewilliams | The library in Lewiston, Idaho (USA), checks out fishing poles. They are about 3 blocks from the Clearwater River |
| 22:17 | davidnind | that was great caroline! |
| 22:20 | lari | season passes to botanical gardens, theaters, sports events and many more :) |
| 22:20 | marie-luce | cait: I love the pétanque set and disco ball records |
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| 22:20 | cait | i htink i'd like to check out the home planetarium |
| 22:21 | no idea how that works, but sounds interesting everytime I look at it | |
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| 22:21 | georgewilliams | I have a couple of libraries that have community rooms that community members can use when the library is closed. I have 3 libraries where we've cataloged the keys to their community rooms so they can check those out when needed. |
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| 22:21 | cait | https://athen.bibliothek.goeth[…]sort_by=relevance |
| 22:22 | we have one that has everything you might forget for exams | |
| 22:22 | and things that you need for presenting | |
| 22:22 | davidnind | thanks everyone for the weird and wonderful! |
| 22:22 | cait | calculators, rulers, pens, whiteboard markers, etc. |
| 22:22 | I think putting fans in the system was kind of a protest against the new building missing AC.. | |
| 22:23 | davidnind | 2010 blast from the past on the live stream! |
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| 22:25 | tcohen | cya tomorrow! duty calls! |
| 22:25 | cait | the first picture ther showed me tlaking to chris in person for the very first time, i was in awe heh |
| 22:26 | davidnind | KohaCon2010 photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/[…]2157625236896938/ |
| 22:26 | cait | and then i gave him chocolate |
| 22:26 | caroline | always a great way of making friends, chocolate |
| 22:26 | cait | that's what I thought too :) |
| 22:26 | and he had promised to teach me more git which he then did at the hackfest | |
| 22:29 | davidnind | ++ everyone |
| 22:33 | rangi | heh |
| 22:41 | thd | whaat was the padlet URI? |
| 22:42 | caroline | https://padlet.com/anitsirk/kohacon2020 |
| 22:42 | It's fun to see the stuff appear! | |
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| 22:47 | marie-luce | nice way to interact with online people |
| 22:49 | rangi | yeah, it's a cool little tool |
| 23:02 | oleonard | o/ |
| 23:02 | marie-luce | excellent first half of the day! |
| 23:03 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 23:03 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
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| 23:03 | thd | Do you know of any FOSS alternative to padlet.com service? |
| 23:04 | marie-luce | oh, too fast! one more! |
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| 23:26 | cait | caroline: cna you help outon bug 26340? |
| 23:26 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ivan.dziuba, Failed QA , When printing labels from a barcode range, keep zero padding |
| 23:29 | caroline | I'll try |
| 23:29 | cait | not sure if I am making sense there |
| 23:29 | I just think we need to keep the ability to print without 0 as this works right onw | |
| 23:30 | caroline | yes I understand, I'm just not sure how to logically go about it |
| 23:30 | cait | so i'd be happy with other suggestions too that make both variations work |
| 23:39 | caroline | cait, wouldn't ivan's suggestion work? If the first value starts with a 0, then the second value must have a 0 |
| 23:40 | dcook | Whoa looking at that flickr from 2010.. |
| 23:40 | caroline | dcook: was it you in one of the pictures? |
| 23:40 | dcook | Nah, I wasn't in the Koha community in 2010 |
| 23:40 | I started working on Koha in 2012 | |
| 23:40 | * dcook | does have many doppelgangers though |
| 23:40 | caroline | ok I wasn't sure, one person with a beard kinda looked like you |
| 23:40 | dcook | One time, I thought I saw a picture of myself online, and it wound up being someone else |
| 23:41 | Like... I'm so generic looking that even I can't recognize myself 100% lol | |
| 23:43 | I love how Robin looks so Robin heh | |
| 23:43 | Oh wow Koha 3.4.x.. | |
| 23:44 | * dcook | feels young until he realizes that he's been around for nearly half of Koha's life |
| 23:46 | dcook | Ahh and this is my first time seeing a photo of mtj! |
| 23:47 | I love Kohacon but it does certainly reduce one's anonymity | |
| 23:53 | Strangely I'm trying to spot someone in these photos but he's not in one of them | |
| 23:53 | Maybe just coincidence | |
| 23:54 | thd | dcook: Almost all the pictures which someone claimed to be me are actually someone else. |
| 23:54 | dcook | :o |
| 23:54 | I don't see you in any of these photos either | |
| 23:54 | thd | I am better at hiding. |
| 23:54 | dcook | Ah maybe you behind a backpack there |
| 23:54 | ? | |
| 23:54 | https://www.flickr.com/photos/[…]2157625236896938/ | |
| 23:55 | Maybe not | |
| 23:55 | thd | I was never in that room. |
| 23:56 | * thd | goes to fetch laundry etc. and find a new disguise. |
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