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| 00:05 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #89: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]_20.05_D9_My8/89/ |
| 00:07 | Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #86: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_U18/86/ | |
| 00:39 | dcook | Thanks ashimema[m] |
| 00:39 | I'm going crazy... I know I looked into why Plack shows a terrible "Internal Server Error" page... but can't remember now | |
| 00:40 | Ahhh bug 26048 | |
| 00:40 | Phew | |
| 00:40 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26048 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Apache does not use /cgi-bin/koha/errors/500.pl if Perl script dies |
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| 00:55 | dcook | Wow TIL that we actually do still have Schedule::At in Koha.. |
| 01:01 | mtj: Bug 26702 for removing libnet-stomp-perl from debian/control.in | |
| 01:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26702 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove explicit libnet-stomp-perl from debian/control.in |
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| 01:10 | shaffendi | hi everyone. i tried to enable plugin in koha but after that i cant find UseKohaPlugins in system preference. i used koha ver 20.05 on debian 9 |
| 01:11 | first i edit koha-conf.xml and change 0 value to 1 | |
| 01:12 | then i restart apache and memcahche | |
| 01:12 | cound anyone help me what i did wrong here? | |
| 01:12 | could* | |
| 01:13 | i tried to 2 of my koha server but both came out same result | |
| 01:14 | Koha version:20.05.04.000 | |
| 01:17 | No system preferences matched your search for: UseKohaPlugins | |
| 01:21 | oleonard | shaffendi I don't know much about it but I'm curious if you navigate to /cgi-bin/koha/plugins/plugins-home.pl if it works |
| 01:22 | shaffendi | af |
| 01:22 | ah | |
| 01:23 | elonard | |
| 01:23 | i just got that plugin enable after restart the server | |
| 01:24 | wonder why just restart web server is not enough | |
| 01:24 | wait i try on 2nd server | |
| 01:26 | * oleonard | disappears again |
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| 02:14 | shaffendi | ya it works after server restart |
| 02:14 | thanks guys | |
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| 03:12 | dcook | @later tell Joubu Apologies if it looks like I've been ignoring your emails. Our mail server appears to have been marking them as spam. Will look at remedying that... |
| 03:12 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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| 05:22 | TimothyAlexis | Yesterday I had problems wtih koha-testing-docker. ashimema helped with 'docker system prune -af', after which everything was downloaded again when starting with 'ku'. |
| 05:22 | This worked. | |
| 05:23 | Today I have a similar problem again. | |
| 05:30 | es_1 | [2020-10-16T05:29:35,250][INFO ][o.e.x.m.p.NativeController] [fZSohqk] Native controller process has stopped - no new native processes can be started koha_es_1 exited with code 78 | |
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| 06:12 | TimothyAlexis | I fixed it. :) |
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| 06:19 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:31 | severine_q | morning #koha ! |
| 06:36 | marcelr | hi severine_q |
| 06:37 | severine_q | hi marcelr :) |
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| 06:45 | ashimema[m] | Koha is moving a pace at the minute.. |
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| 06:52 | ashimema[m] | Mornin' #koha |
| 06:53 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:01 | marcelr | hi ashimema alex_a |
| 07:01 | alex_a | Hello marcelr \o |
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| 07:35 | ashimema | dbic_trace and dbic_trace_profile will probably be your friends when testing auto_savepoints marcelr |
| 07:35 | I used a quick script and those running from command line to understand it myself | |
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| 07:55 | * ashimema | thinks cait was targetting 42 QA's just to get exactly double me |
| 07:56 | ashimema | me just misread that.. 32 would have been double.. |
| 07:59 | TimothyAlexis | Is there a way to distinguish a biblio as 'new'? |
| 07:59 | ashimema | magnuse around? |
| 08:09 | TimothyAlexis | Or rather, is there a way to distinguish an item as 'new'? |
| 08:11 | ashimema | erm.. pass I'm afraid |
| 08:12 | still fairly early.. some other folk may pop in soon and know the answer | |
| 08:12 | what are you wanting to achieve? | |
| 08:12 | I believe there are plugin hooks on the biblio/item creation routines now.. so you might be able to use that to catch new items? | |
| 08:13 | TimothyAlexis | To display new items on the first page or to view a list with new items. |
| 08:13 | ashimema | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Koha_Plugin_Hooks |
| 08:15 | there's a new_status field in the table.. no idea what it's used for however | |
| 08:15 | and dateaccessioned? | |
| 08:19 | TimothyAlexis | Yeah I noticed that new_status too. |
| 08:19 | I'm thinking if datelastseen = dateaccessioned the book could be considered new. | |
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| 08:25 | ashimema | sounds like a reasonable idea |
| 08:25 | as I say.. I'm not really sure.. have a bit fo a play :) | |
| 08:26 | TimothyAlexis | bug 26032 |
| 08:26 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Add 'is new' filter in items search |
| 08:27 | ashimema | ooh.. nice |
| 08:29 | I have no idea what sets and unsets the new status.. | |
| 08:31 | fridolin | 26032 is not ready yet, ISNULL() is a mysqlism |
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| 08:32 | TimothyAlexis | fridolin do you know when the status is set and unset? Because all our items have this set as NULL |
| 08:33 | fridolin | https://www.w3schools.com/Sql/[…]ysql_coalesce.asp |
| 08:33 | TimothyAlexis: ah you need to set a Koha to marc mapping link with an item subfield | |
| 08:33 | like 952$B | |
| 08:34 | ashimema | oh.. so it's maintained at a cataloguing level? |
| 08:34 | fridolin | and then use Tools › Automatic item modifications by age |
| 08:34 | to un-new after a few days | |
| 08:35 | ashimema | aha.. I see |
| 08:35 | fridolin | TimothyAlexis: see cron misc/cronjobs/automatic_item_modification_by_age.pl |
| 08:35 | ashimema | nice little flow there.. is it documented anywhere? |
| 08:35 | fridolin | heuuuu |
| 08:35 | ashimema | hehe |
| 08:36 | fridolin | i'm not at the origin of this dev |
| 08:36 | maybe dig into bugzilla | |
| 08:37 | TimothyAlexis | fridolin: "you need to set a Koha to marc mapping link with an item subfield" |
| 08:37 | Why? :\ | |
| 08:40 | fridolin | TimothyAlexis: in order to catalog a value when creating items, any value means "is new" |
| 08:40 | define default value 1 in framework so that any item created gets is new = 1 | |
| 08:41 | delete the subfield to unset item "is new" | |
| 08:42 | ashimema | it's reasonably elegant when you think about it. |
| 08:47 | TimothyAlexis | we don't import items with marc |
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| 08:53 | ashimema | hmm.. my Kohacon email went into spam.. check your spam boxes peeps.. else you might miss the links |
| 08:56 | fridolin | TimothyAlexis: ah heu this feature is for items |
| 08:57 | but you may create an item type "new" for biblio records | |
| 08:57 | magnuse | ashimema: am now |
| 08:57 | fridolin | you will have to manually unset then |
| 08:57 | "To display new items on the first page or to view a list with new items." | |
| 08:57 | ahhhhh | |
| 08:59 | magnuse | why not just use the dateaccessioned or something like that and say the x most recent ones are new? |
| 09:00 | fridolin | to view a list with new items, you can create a link on a search sorting by date of acquisition |
| 09:00 | magnuse++ | |
| 09:02 | ashimema | I found what I was looking for in the end magnuse.. I was sure you'd created an issue for koha-dashboard but I couldn't for the life of me find it |
| 09:03 | I did eventually and I've now moved it to the active repository and asked you a question ;) | |
| 09:04 | TimothyAlexis | magnuse we will use the status to set it manually when books are put on a display shelf in one of our libraries. |
| 09:06 | fridolin | TimothyAlexis: look also at https://inlibro.com/en/carousel-instructions/ |
| 09:14 | TimothyAlexis | We're using that plugin :) |
| 09:15 | We changed the positioning to % instead of px, so that it would resize with window width. | |
| 09:17 | ashimema | nice |
| 09:18 | TimothyAlexis | fridolin++ |
| 09:18 | ashimema++ | |
| 09:24 | Thanks guys :D | |
| 09:28 | magnuse | ashimema: hope i responded in the right place? maybe remove or mark the inactive one? |
| 09:28 | ...as inactive? | |
| 09:29 | ashimema | indeed |
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| 09:58 | * cait | waves |
| 10:10 | cait | noone here? |
| 10:12 | ashimema | hi cait |
| 10:12 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 10:13 | ashimema | :) |
| 10:14 | right.. now what should I do today | |
| 10:14 | I have a feeling it's a bit late for my transfers tree this cycle.. wondering whether it's worth continuing there or waiting | |
| 10:15 | severine_q | hi Cait :) |
| 10:15 | ashimema | it's another area I was really hoping to get done.. been trying to get that darn 'Transfers to send' report into community for ages |
| 10:16 | cait | yay :) |
| 10:17 | ashimema: you still have another week to throw things at me basically :) | |
| 10:17 | but I'd also like to get the QA queue below 10 today... | |
| 10:17 | looks like i missed marcelr already? | |
| 10:22 | * magnuse | expects everyone is watching the european final of the bocuse d'or |
| 10:24 | cait | ... the.. what? |
| 10:26 | magnuse | the olympics of cooking |
| 10:26 | ashimema | there's some challenging ones in that queue cait |
| 10:26 | cait | yes i know |
| 10:26 | i certainly need some help there | |
| 10:26 | ashimema | and I'm blocked from at least 4 |
| 10:27 | cait | leaves 12 others! :) |
| 10:27 | magnuse | cait: here's the live feed https://vimeo.com/event/289526/embed |
| 10:27 | qateam++ | |
| 10:29 | vfernandes | how we can improve the XSLT processing of a giant record (more than 1000 items)? |
| 10:31 | cait | magnuse: watched 5 secons and now i am hungry |
| 10:31 | magnuse: the comment is kinda hard to understand | |
| 10:32 | magnuse | yeah, it's in norwegian, i thought it was english |
| 10:34 | cait | who is winning? |
| 10:35 | magnuse | dunno, the norwegian participant is from bodø and seems very set on winning ;-) |
| 10:36 | (he placed #1 in europe and 3# in the world last time) | |
| 10:36 | cait | ah ok i see :) |
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| 10:44 | kohaputti | tcohen, have you started the work on bug 21366 ? If not I might be interested to take on the task, although maybe after week or two, not right now. |
| 10:44 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , add plack reload |
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| 11:12 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:14 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 11:15 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:15 | kohaputti I haven't | |
| 11:16 | cait | oleonard: i see your opinion was requested on bug 23823 |
| 11:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, helix84, Signed Off , Allow system preferences to be bookmarked |
| 11:16 | cait | :) |
| 11:16 | oleonard | Oh cool I love giving my opinion |
| 11:16 | cait | sometimes... i wish i could see your face, but it might not be telling me anything... |
| 11:17 | oleonard | :D |
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| 11:53 | cait | :) |
| 11:53 | *sends cookies to everyone* | |
| 11:53 | I am so happy about all the "fresh" patches in QA queue | |
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| 11:54 | cait | come and get them! |
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| 12:28 | * cait | waves at khall |
| 12:29 | * khall | waves |
| 12:31 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 13:07 | cait | khall++ thx for taking the guarantor ones |
| 13:08 | i'd love to see those go in - they already put a lot of work into it with lots of changes needed we we changed the underlying code | |
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| 13:11 | ashimema | TimothyAlexis still around? |
| 13:25 | cait | oleonard: i was just testing the ill notices bug and noticed a button dark grey with black writing (bootstrap) |
| 13:26 | do we already have a standard fix for that? should they be a specific different color? | |
| 13:26 | oleonard | Where do you see it? |
| 13:26 | cait | you'd need to have ILL configured |
| 13:26 | http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]&illrequest_id=32 | |
| 13:27 | ashimema | screenshot ? |
| 13:27 | wahanui | it has been said that screenshot is frenched and there is a not about having used a translator |
| 13:27 | cait | <input type="submit" class="update-illrequest btn btn-default" value="Submit modifications"> |
| 13:27 | working on it | |
| 13:31 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ent.cgi?id=111874 | |
| 13:31 | oleonard | Since it's a submit button I'd change "btn-default" to "btn-primary," but it should be considered a general bug that input:submit.btn-default has black text. |
| 13:31 | ashimema | hmm |
| 13:31 | cait | so ... |
| 13:31 | ashimema | I wonder if that's Koha side or Backend side |
| 13:32 | oleonard | It's Koha |
| 13:32 | cait | ah yes, that's stnadard opac template |
| 13:32 | ashimema | okies |
| 13:32 | cait | for ILL, but not part of the backend |
| 13:32 | ashimema | thanks |
| 13:33 | cait | viewing your requests in opac |
| 13:33 | ashimema | 12 bugs to go cait :) |
| 13:33 | cait | yeah, but i need tofind some late breakfast first |
| 13:33 | :) | |
| 13:34 | * oleonard | needs to do more testing of ILL in the OPAC |
| 13:34 | cait | oleonard: not sure what the recommendation was now - should we file a separate report or fix in template? |
| 13:34 | hm might be a separate report either way | |
| 13:34 | just not sure if i should file it for ILL for for a specific button type | |
| 13:35 | oleonard | Both: btn-default is the wrong class in this template. But btn-default is supposed to work. |
| 13:35 | cait | so... 2 bugs |
| 13:36 | ashimema | I so want a superhero icon now |
| 13:37 | cait | bug 26706 |
| 13:37 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Fix btn-default styling for better contrast |
| 13:37 | ashimema | https://www.iconfinder.com/ico[…]nge_superman_icon |
| 13:39 | cait | doesn't work for me :) |
| 13:39 | male person tearing clothes off might also lead to misunderstandings... | |
| 13:40 | https://www.iconfinder.com/ico[…]an_superhero_icon :) | |
| 13:41 | oleonard | https://www.iconfinder.com/ico[…]erwork_tired_icon |
| 13:41 | ashimema | hehehe |
| 13:41 | love it | |
| 13:41 | cait | hm yeah that one too heh |
| 13:41 | grumpy cait https://www.iconfinder.com/ico[…]ck_superhero_icon | |
| 13:42 | dev and qa relationship? https://www.iconfinder.com/ico[…]l_superpower_icon | |
| 13:42 | ok... i better really find food now | |
| 13:42 | ashimema | I've unleashed a storm of icons! |
| 13:42 | :) | |
| 13:42 | hehe | |
| 13:42 | oleonard | Also, these icons are pushing the limits of what can be defined as an icon :/ |
| 13:43 | cait | true |
| 13:43 | remember chris superlibraian cape? | |
| 13:43 | i thin they just did the Koha K | |
| 13:43 | that could maybe owrk | |
| 13:43 | ashimema | hehe |
| 13:44 | any thoughts from the accessability front regarding the red icon to denote superlibrarian | |
| 13:44 | I wasn't going to fail it on that.. I like it.. | |
| 13:44 | but I'm not entirely sure how color blind friendly it is.. | |
| 13:44 | cait | hm i think rule is you shoul not use color only |
| 13:44 | for information | |
| 13:45 | ashimema | indeed |
| 13:45 | cait | color + some other visual clue |
| 13:45 | ashimema | perhaps we could add a pattern to the background for it? |
| 13:45 | lukeG | morning Koha! |
| 13:45 | ashimema | what do you think oleonard.. achievable? |
| 13:45 | cait | bbiab |
| 13:45 | and hi lukeG :) | |
| 13:47 | ashimema | 1 bugs to go and I've hit caits 10 target |
| 13:48 | oleonard | I think that's a good point which I didn't consider. My instinct is to look for a different icon but I don't know if there's something appropriate |
| 13:48 | Hehe... https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/icon/bomb | |
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| 13:49 | ashimema | hehe.. |
| 13:50 | done | |
| 13:51 | we're at 10! | |
| 13:51 | * oleonard | tries to picture the NSO queue at 10 and fails |
| 13:51 | ashimema | lol |
| 13:51 | oleonard | Maybe this for superlibrarian? https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/icon/star |
| 13:52 | ashimema | yeay.. and I'm back to half as good as cait :) |
| 13:52 | that could work | |
| 13:53 | that or a padlock I wondered | |
| 13:53 | but I think I prefer the start | |
| 14:09 | down to 8 cait | |
| 14:10 | I'm locked out of 3 remaining ones.. and I think a the guarantors ones are partially waiting on feedback for one of the other guarantor ones that just failed.. and I'm waiting for the go again from khall on barcode plugin hooks.. | |
| 14:10 | so.. I reckon it's time for me to go back to working no my transfers bugs. | |
| 14:26 | oleonard | QA++ |
| 14:27 | ashimema | ready to fill it back up oleonard? |
| 14:27 | we should tag a bunch of easy bugs for the workshops next week | |
| 14:27 | oleonard | Getting ready to submit a patch right now :D |
| 14:28 | cait | khall: could you take on bug 26598? |
| 14:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Display guarantee's fines on guarantor's details page |
| 14:29 | cait | they actually look to be quite separte on first glance - the other 2 guarnator ones |
| 14:29 | not dependency linkd | |
| 14:30 | * ashimema | is looking at bug 26597 at the moment |
| 14:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Transfer information from guarantor when adding a guarantor to an existing patron |
| 14:30 | cait | i am on 24083 now |
| 14:30 | ashimema | mm |
| 14:30 | cait | ah cool |
| 14:30 | ashimema | coulnd't help myself |
| 14:30 | cait | please go on :) |
| 14:32 | ashimema | bug 26398 and bug 25596 would be nice ot see move |
| 14:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26398 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Credit and Debit types on creating a manual credits and manual invoices are not translatable |
| 14:32 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25596 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , "Overpayment refund" is not translatable | |
| 14:33 | ashimema | problem is.. as much as I understand how to fix them.. I'm struggling to write a meaningful test plan |
| 14:33 | any tips cait? | |
| 14:34 | cait | agree on wanting to see them move... have refrained from signing as I didn't want to make them stuck |
| 14:34 | oleonard has written some nice test plans for the message translation ones | |
| 14:34 | ashimema | I think you're one of very very few people who 'get it' with regards those.. |
| 14:34 | cait | maybe you can steal from him? |
| 14:34 | ashimema | I also think they're simple enough you could just straight QA them personally... |
| 14:34 | cait | i am going to the issues one then maybe can move on to those |
| 14:34 | caroline | I,ll try to test |
| 14:35 | cait | oh great caroline |
| 14:35 | ashimema: i filed another last night | |
| 14:35 | ashimema | also.. bug 22394 would be an easy SO for someone |
| 14:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Accounts::manualinvoice |
| 14:35 | ashimema | just grep the codebase for manualinvoice |
| 14:35 | cait | bug 26697 |
| 14:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26697 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Types and descriptions of charges only show in English in the OPAC |
| 14:36 | cait | i think this one is major because OPAC |
| 14:36 | ashimema | really.. |
| 14:36 | cait | i found it while testing the cancel feature |
| 14:36 | maybe i am mistaken, but it didn't look good compared to staff yesterday | |
| 14:36 | ashimema | that's really odd.. |
| 14:36 | there is such an include in the OPAC too | |
| 14:36 | and I keep resyncing them | |
| 14:36 | hmm | |
| 14:36 | cait | i didn't find it when looking for the cancellation one |
| 14:36 | maybe it WAS me | |
| 14:37 | but would be happy if you oculd have a look and prove me wrong about the bug (always am) | |
| 14:37 | ashimema | account-table.inc |
| 14:37 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:37 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 14:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #99: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_20.05_D9/99/ |
| 14:38 | ashimema | hmm.. |
| 14:38 | I'll take a look | |
| 14:38 | cait | probably the cancel one nees another follow-pu then too-1 |
| 14:38 | ! | |
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| 14:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #96: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D10/96/ |
| 14:38 | ashimema | yup |
| 14:38 | probably | |
| 14:38 | wahanui | it has been said that probably is too hard. |
| 14:39 | cait | hi ivandz |
| 14:43 | hm change of plans - back to ill notices :) | |
| 14:43 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
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| 14:43 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:46 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #90: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]_20.05_D9_My8/90/ |
| 14:48 | ashimema | cait |
| 14:48 | I just installed fr-FR and none of the terms are translated yet.. but the code is there.. | |
| 14:49 | the 'status' strings are however. | |
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| 14:49 | ashimema | I could however split it out into it's own include.. to match that of the staff client |
| 14:49 | that might be a nice idea | |
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| 15:01 | cait | ashimema: not quite following - none of them translated doesn't sound so good |
| 15:01 | oh | |
| 15:01 | you mean the translations are missing in po files | |
| 15:01 | ashimema | they're all there ready and waiting |
| 15:01 | cait | are they new with 20.05? gemran is complete as of 20.05 release... but every added or changed after would be missing right |
| 15:01 | that's a relieve | |
| 15:01 | would you mind doing a follow-up for the cancel patch? | |
| 15:01 | ashimema | yup.. they're a 20.05 thing |
| 15:01 | sure | |
| 15:02 | caroline | what is the difference between a payout and a payment? |
| 15:02 | cait | direction :) |
| 15:02 | caroline | Google translate gives me the same word in french... |
| 15:02 | ashimema | payment is when a patron pays for something |
| 15:02 | cait | payout is the lirary giving the patron money |
| 15:02 | ashimema | payout is when the library pays the patron for something |
| 15:02 | caroline | so like a reimbursement? |
| 15:02 | ashimema | yup |
| 15:02 | exactly | |
| 15:02 | cait | i think probably most likely for a credit when they are leaving |
| 15:03 | caroline | ok I'll use the word for reimbursement then |
| 15:03 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:03 | caroline | I'm juste translating everything that has "Credit" because I don't see a difference between patch and no patch hehe |
| 15:03 | ashimema | good plan |
| 15:03 | thanks caroline | |
| 15:04 | brb.. got my covid survey to fill in | |
| 15:04 | oleonard | ashimema I hope you give covid a very poor rating. Zero out of five stars. |
| 15:04 | caroline | hm... what is the difference between payout and refund? |
| 15:05 | oleonard lol! | |
| 15:11 | ashimema | hehe |
| 15:11 | ok.. | |
| 15:11 | so a payout is the literal handing over of cash from library to patron | |
| 15:11 | how you are 'owed' that can come about in a few ways.... including a 'refund' | |
| 15:12 | process wise | |
| 15:13 | patron gets an overdue fine -> patron returns item on closed day -> patron pays overdue fine in full -> staff backdates return -> oops, patron payed too much, system adds 'refund' credit to patrons account -> patron decides to leave the library forever -> librarian issues a 'payout' of the 'refund' credit that's on the patrons record. | |
| 15:14 | man that makes it sound complicated.. but it's one of the route that may result in a payout | |
| 15:14 | a payout is an oddity in the system in so much as it looks like a 'debit' on the patrons account because of the way the maths works | |
| 15:15 | caroline.. does that all make sense? | |
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| 15:16 | caroline | So the payout is the "physical" changing of hands of the money (like "payment" but the other way around) and "refund" is the credit type (like "fee" but the other way around)? |
| 15:17 | ashimema | exactly |
| 15:17 | did you see the comment I wrote up for cait the other day trying to explain all the different system types as they currently stand? | |
| 15:17 | caroline | hum... ok... I don't think we have a different word for it in French, which might create a confusion |
| 15:18 | I'll check with marie-luce see if she has any ideas | |
| 15:18 | ashimema: no I didn't | |
| 15:18 | ashimema | I'll dig it out |
| 15:18 | and at some point if oyu point me to an appropriate part of the manual to add it I'll happily do something for that | |
| 15:19 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=24603#c20 | |
| 15:19 | huginn | Bug 24603: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Allow to cancel charges in patron accounting |
| 15:19 | ashimema | it's that comment |
| 15:20 | cait | bug 22818 |
| 15:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22818 new feature, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Passed QA , ILL should be able to send notices |
| 15:20 | cait | ;) |
| 15:20 | ashimema | :D |
| 15:21 | cait | i added 3 little follow-ups |
| 15:21 | switch a word in prefs and adding a hint on the library page, hopw they are agreeable :) | |
| 15:22 | caroline | ashimema: cool, I'll keep it aside and see where it can fit in the manual |
| 15:24 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:24 | sounds good to me cait | |
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| 15:30 | cait | kidclamp or khall: would you be able to help me with the SIP bit of the test plan on bug 24083? |
| 15:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Koha should support "seen" vs "unseen" renewals |
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| 15:33 | cait | could someone sanity check my comment on bug 26340? |
| 15:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ivan.dziuba, Failed QA , When printing labels from a barcode range, keep zero padding |
| 15:35 | oleonard | This new "css_and_scss_in_sync" message from the QA tool makes my tests less satisfying |
| 15:35 | ashimema | hehe. |
| 15:35 | I found the same oleonard | |
| 15:36 | * cait | needs a brain break |
| 15:49 | ashimema | down to 7! |
| 15:49 | right.. on that note I think it's time for me to clock out | |
| 15:49 | have a good weekend #koha | |
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| 15:49 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:49 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:53 | cait | i just took a screenshot :) |
| 15:54 | same for me for now I am afraid - will get busy with baking for a bit to reset the brain | |
| 15:54 | have a nice weekend everyone! | |
| 15:54 | and great job! | |
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| 16:15 | smrt | hi is anyone else having the issue where the login modal isn't focus trapped? I checked the demo OPAC on biblibre (bywater's demo seems to in "testing") and when I try navigating with keyboard only, the focus jumps out of the modal and onto the links and buttons of the main page. or has this bug been reported? I can't seem to find it if it was. |
| 16:20 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:20 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 17:11 | lukeG | Have a great weekend Koha! :) |
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| 17:24 | tuxayo | smrt: «login modal isn't focus trapped» Have your already seen it trapped? |
| 17:25 | To know if there is a regression of it it's a UX issue. | |
| 17:28 | oleonard | There is a bug filed just the other day: Bug 26695 |
| 17:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26695 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Set focus for cursor to login box on the login popup modal |
| 17:29 | oleonard | ...but I don't find that the keyboard focus moves behind the modal. In my test the focus goes first to the "X" button and then to the login field. |
| 17:31 | smrt | oh yeah that's fine but if you keep pressing tab past the last part of the modal it goes to what's behind the modal. if you go to the example modal section on bootstrap 2.3.1 tabbing stays within the modal no matter how many times you tab |
| 17:34 | oleonard | What version are you on smrt? |
| 17:35 | smrt | 19.11 |
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| 17:38 | smrt | And I just checked it on the Catalyst demo OPAC it's doing the same thing on 20.05. tabbing leaves the modal and cycles through the rest of the page after tabbing past the login button in the modal. |
| 17:38 | oleonard | smrt I can reproduce that problem in 19.11 and 20.05. It will be fixed in 20.11 where a new version of Bootstrap is used. |
| 17:39 | smrt | oh thank god. i was wondering when an update was coming to bootstrap in koha. |
| 17:39 | I've been fighting 2.3.1 for years. lol | |
| 17:39 | is there an ETA on it? | |
| 17:42 | tuxayo | «Gratulation, Sie haben den Prozess abgeschlossen und können nun Koha nutzen» |
| 17:42 | yay finally installed Koha for the first time after 3 years working on it XD | |
| 17:43 | (I think I installed it, because I did the install in German, which I don't understand at all. It was for a German related patch) | |
| 17:44 | And I almost got locked outside due forgetting the credentials I elected ^^" | |
| 17:47 | oleonard | smrt: "20.11" means November 2020 :) |
| 17:48 | Currently the exact date is 2020-11-27, but that is subject to change. | |
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| 17:50 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 17:50 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 17:52 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 17:52 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 17:56 | smrt | oh lol makes sense |
| 17:56 | thanks everyone for the help and info | |
| 17:58 | tuxayo | smrt: the Bootstrap update came thanks to the work of oleonard :D . Help is very needed on UI stuff. |
| 17:58 | Are there by any chance enhancements or fixes that you have at your library but could benefit everyone? | |
| 17:59 | * tuxayo | tries to sneakingly recruit in order to double the Koha UI team |
| 18:03 | smrt | oh lolol im not sure anyone would want to use my enhancements they are very hacky-ish. |
| 18:04 | "enhancements" | |
| 18:04 | oleonard | But if they are solutions you felt were necessary they could be filed as bugs to get a less hacky-ish fix. |
| 18:04 | ...assuming they're not changes which are only relevant to your library | |
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| 18:13 | smrt | Well for one thing our production server is still on 3.16 so most of the "enhancements" have been fixed by 19.11. and I'm pretty sure they are changes only relevant to our library (grouping item types by branch in advanced search is one example that im pretty sure no one else needs) |
| 18:14 | caroline | smrt: It's interesting |
| 18:15 | I wonder if it's doable now by limiting the itemtypecat authorised values by library | |
| 18:15 | smrt: can you share the link? I'm curious what it looks like | |
| 18:16 | smrt | haha yeah sure it's nothing fancy just a ton of jquery https://mbcsc.edu.gov.mb.ca/cg[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 18:17 | caroline | very cool! |
| 18:18 | that is not currently possible with the latest version, but it's a very interesting feature | |
| 18:19 | are you in Winnipeg? | |
| 18:20 | smrt | hah thanks. and yeah its basically all done in opacuserjs and yup we are |
| 18:20 | caroline | how the covid situation over there? I'm in Montreal and it's pretty bad since a couple of weeks |
| 18:21 | thankfully my job is easy to do remotely and none of my family have been affected, so I consident myself very lucky | |
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| 18:21 | caroline | good morning davidnind! |
| 18:22 | smrt | hah yeah i think we just passed you guys in per captia infections but I've been mostly working from home since this all started. |
| 18:24 | davidnind | greetings from New Zealand caroline! |
| 18:31 | oleonard | caroline: Almost as many new cases were reported in my state, Ohio, as were reported in your whole country yesterday :( |
| 18:32 | caroline | yeah, it seems pretty bad in the US right now... and not just with the covid :/ |
| 18:32 | I hear almost more news from the US than news from here when I listen to the news (which is not often, because it's too depressing) | |
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| 18:33 | tuxayo | Does anyone know if the huge list of fields here makes sense? |
| 18:33 | https://pic.infini.fr/JHrci3To/UHx5YN5W.png | |
| 18:33 | oleonard | I deliberately try to avoid the news and I still get too much. |
| 18:34 | tuxayo | It's the ACQ framework of an install all by default. |
| 18:34 | oleonard | That link didn't work tuxayo |
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| 18:35 | tuxayo | oleonard: indeed! https://pic.infini.fr/ar8l5wWx/GXuOcOzN.png |
| 18:36 | caroline | tuxayo: this is for MARC21 right? |
| 18:36 | tuxayo | Yes |
| 18:37 | caroline | this is the entire ACQ framwork? |
| 18:37 | Or only the authors? | |
| 18:37 | tuxayo | MARC subfield structure admin for 100 |
| 18:38 | From basic knowledge of framework I would say yes. | |
| 18:39 | caroline | what is Siehe auch? (See also?) |
| 18:39 | tuxayo | (just found out that the english translation was also enabled now I can understand the UI) |
| 18:39 | caroline: yes! | |
| 18:39 | caroline | then yeah, see also is ok |
| 18:42 | tuxayo | caroline: thanks, so it was just of effect of doing everything blindly regarding to the language ^^ |
| 18:42 | Now I know the feeling of non-english speakers when in a situation without translation at all. | |
| 18:43 | caroline | lol! |
| 18:43 | I tested a swedish bug last week and forgot to switch back my opac.... I was reallly surprised when I opened it yesterday | |
| 18:45 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 18:47 | First time trying the installer, it seems great. That also says something about it to be able to make a quick and dirty install basically without knowing how to read. | |
| 18:47 | (which undermines the relevance the use of an ILS and the library :P ) | |
| 18:47 | caroline | lol! |
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