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| 02:08 | AdamG | Hi, I was wondering if someone could suggest resources for setting up a debian 10 box to host koha from my home for a small school library. I'm looking to develop a proof of concept before paying for hosting, and I'm no unix sysadmin |
| 02:20 | davidnind | AdamC: Koha on Debian using https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
| 02:20 | If you don't have a machine available you could try using VirtualBox on a Windows machine, as long as you have a reasonable amount of memory | |
| 02:24 | AdamG | I have a reasonable desktop with an I5, 1TB of hard drive space, and maybe 8gb of RAM. Adding more ram is not a problem either. I know performance will be poor, but I'm not knowledgeable about setting up the firewall, static IP, etc |
| 02:24 | davidnind | A lot to learn if you are less familiar with Linux + Web servers (Apache) + Databases (MariaDb or MySQL) - there are some good tutorials around on getting a minimal Debian install running first, before starting on the Koha part |
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| 02:25 | davidnind | How to forge has some good tutorials from memory: https://www.howtoforge.com/tut[…]n-minimal-server/ |
| 02:26 | 8GB should be okay - I can get a workable system (for testing) running fine with my laptop using VirtualBox - would work fine for a demonstration system | |
| 02:27 | tuxayo | AdamG: « I'm looking to develop a proof of concept before paying for hosting, and I'm no unix sysadmin» Proof of concept of hosting Koha or just proof of concept or using Koha? |
| 02:28 | AdamG | thank you - that tutorial looks like a great start - I assume I'm installing the non graphical UI, correct? |
| 02:28 | tuxayo | Yes non UI |
| 02:28 | That's how it would be for a server | |
| 02:29 | AdamG | The proof of concept is for both - setting up the library catalog, configuring koha, and letting remote users search the catalog database from their PC |
| 02:29 | tuxayo | «before paying for hosting» Before paying a generic server hosting and hosting it yourself there? Or before paying a Koha support company to manage the hosting? (whether it's on your server or not) |
| 02:29 | davidnind | linode has some good tutorials as well, particularly for hardening your server if it is eventually going to end up on the internet https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/ |
| 02:30 | tuxayo | AdamG: So actually your not searching a proof of concept to hosting Koha as in a sysadmin sense right? |
| 02:31 | davidnind: Would the Koha DevBox do then? | |
| 02:32 | davidnind | tuxayo: I've never manged to get DevBox working, so I've used Koha Testing Docker - have not managed to get that working on Windows though :-( |
| 02:33 | AdamG | So, my 14yo son wants to set this up for his school who has no budget for it. instead of him waiting for them to a) understand the difference between locally hosted (a PC in the corner of the library configured with the school's router), self hosted, (eg digital ocean) or fully managed hosting (a surprising amount of money) Iwanted to get him up and running with the software and then show it off. |
| 02:33 | tuxayo | davidnind: Oh, I can help with both it you need :). Note that Lisette recently used Koha Testing Docker on Windows |
| 02:34 | davidnind | another option is to use one of the demo installations provided by some of the support providers https://koha-community.org/demo/ - go for 20.05, generally reset regularly |
| 02:34 | tuxayo | I bet most people not sysadmins have way more chance trying a Koha DevBox than Debian install + Koha install |
| 02:34 | davidnind++ | |
| 02:37 | Yes the demo installation for you AdamG are the best option if your tests can be done quickly enough to not be annoyed by the data being reset from time to time (because it's a demo) | |
| 02:39 | AdamG | would he be able to learn how to configure koha as an admin, enter books into the catalog, test printing barcode labels, etc? |
| 02:39 | tuxayo | Maybe even better. The sandboxes (it's made to test patches), it turn out that the ones of PTFS-E (a support company involved in the community) have a lifespan of at least 15 days |
| 02:40 | davidnind | some useful resources for Koha itself - http://koha-us.org/learn/ and https://koha.bywatersolutions.com/ (and follow ByWater Solutions Twitter and YouTube as they have so many great tutorials) |
| 02:41 | tuxayo: I'm happy with Koha Testing Docker on Ubuntu, but thanks anyway (next time I rebuild I'll try KTD on Windows and see if I have better luck) | |
| 02:41 | tuxayo | oops forgot the link for the sandboxes: http://sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/ |
| 02:42 | davidnind: I'm happy that you can use Linux instead of Windows to work on Koha ;) | |
| 02:42 | AdamG | This is great; you've given me l/ him lots to read and get familiar with. thank you |
| 02:43 | I'm more of a windows guy, but I understand it adds much more overhead | |
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| 02:44 | davidnind | AdamG: if you get stuck, then ask on IRC or the general mailing list - IRC depends who is around, often more active for US and European times |
| 02:44 | AdamG | One final question - when adding books to the catalog, will he need to manually type all of the metadata (author, title, etc) or is there a public database that he can search by ISDN to populate this information in Koha? |
| 02:46 | tuxayo | If you use MARC21 you can for example do a search at the US library of congress to get metadata. If you user UNIMARC there is the french national library |
| 02:46 | davidnind | You can copy catlaogue rather than catalogue from scratch, for example from Library of Congress - depends on the type of items you have |
| 02:47 | tuxayo | And you can add other Z39.50 or SRU servers from other countries, type of item depending on what you need. |
| 02:47 | AdamG | super; those are good keywords for me to research. Thanks again. .. |
| 02:49 | davidnind | AdamG: From the manual (although this is the dev version) https://koha-community.org/man[…]ml#adding-records |
| 02:50 | tuxayo | davidnind: they left ^^" |
| 02:50 | davidnind | tuxayo++ |
| 02:51 | tuxayo | For the record, my WIP message was: |
| 02:51 | This is a more of a general question for other libraries like your in your country. | |
| 02:51 | The Koha part was the fact it compatible with Z39.50 and SRU which are popular standards for communicating with a server that provides autority and biblio records. | |
| 02:51 | I case they come back I'll copy :P | |
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| 06:23 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:23 | wahanui | hi, reiveune |
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| 06:33 | cait2 | good morning #koha |
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| 06:55 | fridolin | hi |
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| 07:21 | Joubu | wizzyrea: I've checked and there is no tab in the history file. Is the script available somewhere? I could give it a try |
| 07:22 | wizzyrea: I mean, there is no tab in the date | |
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| 07:41 | Joubu | fridolin: around? |
| 07:42 | fridolin | Joubu: yep ? |
| 07:52 | Joubu | fridolin: I let you a comment on bug 25765 |
| 07:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25765 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to stable , Replace LoginBranchname and LoginBranchcode with use of Branches template plugin |
| 07:58 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen please confirm 26108 as soon as you can |
| 07:58 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:57 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 26108: (bug 25855 follow-up) Call after_circ_action hook only if issue exists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ef8edfb0ea476949> |
| 08:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 25852: Improve C4::Creators::Lib reliability under plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4420d30243031629d> | |
| 08:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 25852: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]020509e30aa0bf3ab> | |
| 08:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 25887: Keep library filter on the fund list view <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5b1329463fc9751e5> | |
| 08:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 26093: Markup error after Bug 24279 creates formatting problem <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0bce4a5ed7af395a3> | |
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| 09:36 | Joubu | kidclamp: any ideas what's going on there? bug 26110 |
| 09:36 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26110 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Advanced search does not return consistent result |
| 09:37 | kidclamp | looking |
| 09:40 | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2W46GiSf/ | |
| 09:41 | bug 25882 | |
| 09:41 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25882 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Elasticsearch - Advanced search itemtype limits are being double quoted |
| 09:41 | kidclamp | Joubu^ |
| 09:41 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 09:41 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:41 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1396: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1396/ |
| 09:44 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 09:44 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:44 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U20 build #53: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/53/ |
| 09:44 | Joubu | thx kidclamp |
| 09:45 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #355: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/355/ |
| 09:46 | Joubu | kidclamp: does it affect stables? |
| 09:47 | caused by bug 23521 apparently | |
| 09:47 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23521 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to stable , ES 6 - limit terms with many words can make the search inaccurate |
| 09:55 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #50: FAILURE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D11/50/ |
| 09:57 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 09:57 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:57 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #378: FIXED in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/378/ |
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| 10:21 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:21 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 10:21 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #852: FIXED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/852/ |
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| 10:29 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:29 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 10:29 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #312: FIXED in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/312/ |
| 10:29 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 10:29 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 10:29 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #36: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D10_Deps/36/ |
| 10:36 | * oleonard | waves |
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| 10:57 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 25811: (follow-up) Debug - Paste the source of the page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5fc543dd0528b050a> |
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| 11:16 | oleonard | Hi cait |
| 11:20 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 11:21 | Where is my Friday QA crowd? | |
| 11:21 | kidclamp++ | |
| 11:21 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 11:21 | cait | Sally++ |
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| 11:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #356: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/356/ |
| 11:45 | oleonard | Sally++ |
| 11:49 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U20 build #54: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/54/ |
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| 12:17 | cait | hm someone any issues with patron import and "proxy error"? |
| 12:18 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:18 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
| 12:19 | tcohen | hi |
| 12:20 | any comments on bug 22343 UI are welcome, oleonard | |
| 12:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22343 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add SMTP configuration options to Administration |
| 12:21 | oleonard | The quick look I made yesterday didn't turn up anything obvious tcohen. I'm hoping to give the functionality a real test today |
| 12:21 | tcohen | thanks! |
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| 12:56 | oleonard | lukeG around? |
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| 13:18 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 26108: Only call the plugin hook if a return took place <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3243ded20541970cc> |
| 13:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26108: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]898060f1d8d23ae62> | |
| 13:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26111: Add "Serials" (SER) to the reports dictionnary <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a121e75195b0ce11> | |
| 13:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26084: Clarify language on ConsiderOnSiteCheckoutsAsNormalCheckouts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a3a8b4bde18e17a3> | |
| 13:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 25873: Ignore malformed data for Elasticsearch integer fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f2537797358981fff> | |
| 13:18 | oleonard | "Remove leftover carp always" seems like generally good advice |
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| 13:57 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
| 13:59 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1398: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1398/ |
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| 14:34 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:34 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 14:37 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:06 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:06 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:45 | oleonard | Joubu around? |
| 16:10 | Joubu | not really :) |
| 16:11 | do you have a quick question? | |
| 16:12 | oleonard | I have a question abut the qa tools which I can ask on gitlab for you to see when you have time |
| 16:12 | No rush | |
| 16:12 | Joubu | yep, thanks :) |
| 16:12 | have a good weekend | |
| 16:12 | oleonard | You too! |
| 16:13 | tuxayo | o/ Joubu |
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| 16:35 | oleonard | That thing where the Bugzilla search results page appears to be indefinitely loading... I hates it |
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| 16:39 | kidclamp | +1 oleonard |
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| 20:41 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 20:41 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 20:42 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 20:42 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 22:10 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 22:10 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 22:18 | oleonard | lukeG1 here? |
| 22:18 | lukeG1 | yes |
| 22:18 | oleonard | When you were testing my Bootstrap 4 branch were you using a Mac? |
| 22:18 | lukeG1 | I was |
| 22:19 | oleonard | Okay, me too. I think we're seeing the same thing with regard to input borders. |
| 22:19 | I haven't tested on a PC yet | |
| 22:19 | My revised branch is an improvement I think but still not 100% consistent | |
| 22:19 | lukeG1 | Ahh, I have no PC's to test on, unfortunately :( |
| 22:20 | Ive meant to test again since you've made some corrections. | |
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