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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:01 | dcook | Ok... JSON::Validator::OpenAPI::Mojolicious uses "http://swagger.io/v2/schema.json" if a "schema" argument isn't provided to load_and_validate_schema() |
| 00:01 | Errr JSON::Validator::OpenAPI rather, which is the parent of JSON::Validator::OpenAPI::Mojolicious | |
| 00:01 | JSON::Validator defaults to http://json-schema.org/draft-04/schema# right... makes sense | |
| 00:02 | "/usr/share/perl5/JSON/Validator/cache/36d1bd12eeed51e86c8695bd8876a9df" shoudl provide us a copy of "http://swagger.io/v2/schema.json" | |
| 00:02 | So we could just put that file into Koha, and then have load_and_validate_schema() read it from Koha | |
| 00:03 | Well I'd need to work out the logic | |
| 00:03 | Alternatively we could put it on koha-community.org but I still don't like that external dependency, especially as there are Koha instances which are not Internet connected... | |
| 00:04 | oleonard | I'm just jumping back in after taking a break... Do we have a workaround, even if it's temporary? |
| 00:04 | dcook | The schema argument goes to Mojo::JSON::Pointer, which I bet does some auto magic.. |
| 00:05 | oleonard: Yep | |
| 00:05 | tuxayo | «dcook just thinks it's crazy to be forced to load data from a third-party URL» |
| 00:05 | Indeed | |
| 00:05 | dcook | oleonard: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=23653#c11 |
| 00:05 | huginn | Bug 23653: major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, In Discussion , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 00:05 | dcook | That works for the time being |
| 00:05 | Comment 11 specifically | |
| 00:06 | mtj++ | |
| 00:06 | hayley | thoughts on moving it to critical/blocker? |
| 00:06 | dcook | hayley: Oh yeah I would |
| 00:06 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 00:06 | dcook | I think I aged 10 years in an hour this morning :p |
| 00:06 | hayley | done! |
| 00:06 | yes very stressful! | |
| 00:07 | dcook | I'm hoping within the next 60 minutes to have a more permanent solution |
| 00:07 | By embedding the schema.json in Koha | |
| 00:07 | tuxayo | Yes! |
| 00:08 | oleonard | Thanks y'all, that workaround works great |
| 00:09 | tuxayo | > Got to love a ticking time bomb |
| 00:09 | No way, it's real. I just opened more than 100 pages on a demo instance (2 workers, 50 pages for each if my spies are right) | |
| 00:09 | And now it just 504 timeout!!!! | |
| 00:09 | dcook | Right? |
| 00:09 | I've almost worked this out.. | |
| 00:09 | tuxayo | oleonard: so you got that in production without restarting plack? |
| 00:10 | oleonard | tuxayo just in my dev machine |
| 00:10 | dcook | I know I got it in a lot of production boxes today |
| 00:13 | Ok I think I've worked out the logic. Now just to do a patch and test it... | |
| 00:15 | mtj: In your workaround, how did you know to use 3.06? | |
| 00:16 | In Ubuntu, I'm seeing version 1.08 | |
| 00:17 | mtj | hi dcook, 3.06 is the version available for buster and stretch-backports, other than that - there is nothing special about the version |
| 00:17 | dcook | Hmm interesting |
| 00:17 | libjson-validator-perl is 1.08 on 18.04 which is based off buster I think.. | |
| 00:17 | buster/sid that is | |
| 00:18 | Hmm.. | |
| 00:18 | Well I think we know 3.06 is working right now so I'll look at including that version | |
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| 00:19 | tuxayo | > 18.04 which is based off buster |
| 00:19 | Indeed | |
| 00:19 | https://askubuntu.com/question[…]versions-based-on | |
| 00:20 | dcook | https://github.com/mojolicious[…]86c8695bd8876a9df |
| 00:20 | So I'll use that for now | |
| 00:22 | rangi | buster/sid is unstable |
| 00:22 | and testing | |
| 00:22 | dcook | Whoa haven't seen rangi here in ages O_O |
| 00:23 | rangi | so you can't really say that, unless you say sid as of april 2018 :) |
| 00:23 | dcook | Yeah buster before buster was buster |
| 00:23 | heh | |
| 00:23 | True | |
| 00:23 | rangi | cos sid now is 4.0x something |
| 00:23 | for that module | |
| 00:23 | dcook | Yeah, I was being imprecise |
| 00:23 | So now quick question for people | |
| 00:23 | Where to make this file live | |
| 00:23 | rangi | its the problem with the lts releases |
| 00:24 | the l is too long :) | |
| 00:24 | tuxayo | dcook: What you have is perfect match to this archive |
| 00:24 | https://web.archive.org/web/20[…]21/v2/schema.json | |
| 00:24 | So it's good | |
| 00:24 | dcook | I suppose that's an option yeah |
| 00:24 | Although it's still an online option | |
| 00:25 | tuxayo | dcook: it's just a check. This page isn't 100% JSON |
| 00:26 | dcook: «Where to make this file live» | |
| 00:26 | Is it okay with our JS and CSS assets? It ensures it's reachable without server config. | |
| 00:27 | rangi | thats where i would put it |
| 00:27 | anywhere in the opac-tmpl path would do tho | |
| 00:31 | dcook | Why woudl you put it in the opac-tmpl path? |
| 00:31 | It's a backend asset. Doesn't need to be shown to end users. | |
| 00:31 | We don't need to load it over HTTP | |
| 00:31 | JSON::Validator can read it as a local file | |
| 00:31 | oleonard: On the plus side, this workaround is sort of a permanent workaround | |
| 00:32 | This "cache" isn't a real cache | |
| 00:33 | Oh interesting... JSON_VALIDATOR_CACHE_PATH environmental variable.. | |
| 00:33 | Oh right.. yeah I see what you're saying | |
| 00:34 | I suppose there's no harm in exposing it to end users... | |
| 00:34 | Although there would still be some server config | |
| 00:34 | Unless I guess if you can rely on the base url being set.. | |
| 00:34 | Wait... | |
| 00:34 | Actually that won't work either | |
| 00:35 | Well... | |
| 00:35 | I guess it would | |
| 00:35 | Plack fetches this file at startup | |
| 00:35 | So it would be fetching it from Apache | |
| 00:35 | :/ | |
| 00:35 | I don't love that kind of dependency either | |
| 00:38 | Hmm tuxayo, what made you think to raise the issue at https://github.com/swagger-api[…]er.io/issues/281? | |
| 00:39 | tuxayo | dcook: If there is a way to have it directly from a file without changing much stuff that would be great |
| 00:39 | dcook | Using the Debian packages we could automate it fairly easily |
| 00:39 | The only issue will be for people not using Debian packages | |
| 00:39 | But I guess that's the downside of them not using them.. | |
| 00:39 | tuxayo | dcook: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=23653#c13 |
| 00:39 | dcook | Well, we can code it to work for them too if they do a proper upgrade.. |
| 00:39 | huginn | Bug 23653: blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, In Discussion , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 00:40 | dcook | Yeah but you raised an issue against the swagger.io website |
| 00:40 | tuxayo | https://salsa.debian.org/perl-[…]/debian/copyright |
| 00:40 | Comment: The +dfsg version is created by removing the cache files from the | |
| 00:40 | lib/JSON/Validator directory, where the license is unknown. | |
| 00:40 | dcook | The JSON/Validator/cache isn't made by them |
| 00:40 | It's made by... | |
| 00:40 | Jan Henning Thorsen | |
| 00:40 | tuxayo | It's the cause Debian not shipping it |
| 00:40 | *cause of | |
| 00:41 | dcook | Right, but swagger.io isn't part of that |
| 00:41 | We probably want to open an issue at https://metacpan.org/pod/JSON::Validator | |
| 00:41 | Wait not that one.. | |
| 00:41 | Maybe it's this one..https://metacpan.org/pod/JSON:[…]nAPI::Mojolicious | |
| 00:41 | Or wait I alrady shared that other github.. | |
| 00:41 | tuxayo | > Using the Debian packages we could automate it fairly easily |
| 00:41 | > The only issue will be for people not using Debian packages | |
| 00:41 | dcook | https://github.com/mojolicious/json-validator |
| 00:42 | As that's the source of that cache | |
| 00:42 | tuxayo | IIUC only Debian/Ubuntu users would have this issue. Well, other distros could have found this lack of license and exclude this file |
| 00:42 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:42 | Good point | |
| 00:42 | Excellent point | |
| 00:42 | Of course, the current workaround will solve this problem "permanently" for anyone who puts it in | |
| 00:43 | But that puts a lot of people at risk still | |
| 00:43 | tuxayo | > Right, but swagger.io isn't part of that |
| 00:43 | Oh, it's 3 level! (Swagger, JSON::Validator, Debian) | |
| 00:43 | dcook | So I'm going to do the workaround on... two more servers and then I'll write a patch |
| 00:43 | tuxayo | JSON::Validator can't decide the license of this file. It's from Swagger |
| 00:43 | dcook | Ah right |
| 00:43 | My mistake | |
| 00:43 | Silly me | |
| 00:43 | Because JSON::Validator just has a copy of it | |
| 00:43 | I definitely need some sugar/caffeine heh | |
| 00:50 | tuxayo | > But that puts a lot of people at risk still |
| 00:50 | You mean the current workaround puts a lot of people at risk? | |
| 00:51 | dcook | Well, it'll fix the problem for anyone that does it |
| 00:51 | But any new installs will have the problem | |
| 00:51 | And installs that don't have reactive/proactive support | |
| 00:52 | tuxayo | Ok I get it now. Good nothing worse then ^^" |
| 00:52 | dcook | Anyway, just about to start on this patch |
| 00:53 | tuxayo | > And installs that don't have reactive/proactive support |
| 00:53 | Hopefully they aren't on >= Koha 19.11 yet | |
| 00:55 | dcook | I think this will probably affect anyone using the API but I haven't checked |
| 00:55 | Hmm tcohen pointed out the licence at https://github.com/OAI/OpenAPI[…]ob/master/LICENSE | |
| 00:58 | tuxayo | Good find, maybe |
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| 01:01 | tuxayo | dcook: the schema file is also here: https://github.com/OAI/OpenAPI[…]/v2.0/schema.json |
| 01:02 | So under the Apache 2 license of the repo Apache License 2.0 | |
| 01:02 | *https://github.com/OAI/OpenAPI[…]ob/master/LICENSE | |
| 01:02 | dcook | Cheers, tuxayo |
| 01:02 | Interestingly there is a 1 line difference between them | |
| 01:02 | I'll go with this latest one you've provided | |
| 01:02 | tuxayo | Indeed lol, one line diff |
| 01:03 | * tuxayo | tries the find the Debian issue tracker for the package |
| 01:05 | tuxayo | «Cheers, tuxayo» |
| 01:05 | IIUC, that means you are leaving o/ | |
| 01:05 | See you, good luck. | |
| 01:05 | (actually I think there are 1/2 chances that it's not that XD) | |
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| 01:09 | dcook | Still around heh |
| 01:09 | Just trying to focus | |
| 01:09 | tuxayo | 👌 |
| 01:11 | dcook | Interesting... |
| 01:12 | It looks like $validator->bundle is using a massively simpler schema file | |
| 01:12 | So if there are failures it's beacuse bundle isn't working.. | |
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| 01:19 | dcook | Unless.. |
| 01:19 | Ahh I see it now.. | |
| 01:20 | It's /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/REST/Plugin/PluginRoutes.pm | |
| 01:20 | Bundle is working in /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/REST/V1.pm, although it's fallback would fail.. | |
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| 01:30 | dcook | Which means it only affects plugin-enabled instances |
| 01:32 | tuxayo: Looks like I'll have a very simple fix coming soon I think | |
| 01:32 | Well... | |
| 01:32 | Actually yeah... yeah | |
| 01:32 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 01:34 | dcook | Well "simple" from a sysadmin point of view |
| 01:34 | Due to the way Koha/REST/Plugin/PluginRoutes.pm is written there is a lot of refactoring to do.. | |
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| 01:40 | tuxayo | Good news, PluginRoutes.pm has seen little changes between 19.11, 20.05 and master |
| 01:40 | dcook | Great :) |
| 01:49 | tcohen: Looks like you're awake. Are you on IRC too? | |
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| 02:11 | dcook | Hmm looks like maybe I was wrong about PluginRoutes.pm being the problem.. |
| 02:11 | Ahhh because it doesn't have the validator.. | |
| 02:13 | tuxayo | I'm trying to report a bug to the Debian package bug tracker but it's very recommended to use their "reportbug" program for that. |
| 02:13 | I'm fighting since too much time with the packages on EndeavourOS (Arch Linux actually) (I even have to install apt!). | |
| 02:14 | And I just realized that I have a Debian running on my computer: my Koha dev env! :D | |
| 02:15 | dcook | Woohoo, created a code fix |
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| 02:20 | dcook | On Bugzilla, tcohen said the best solution is probably to do a new package that includes the JSON cache. That's probably true. |
| 02:20 | But figure I may as well include this code fix | |
| 02:20 | tuxayo | dcook++ |
| 02:21 | > the best solution is probably to do a new package that includes the JSON cache | |
| 02:21 | Indeed, that way, deployers only have to update the perl-deps, no patch to apply. | |
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| 02:23 | dcook | Although then that's another thing for us to maintain forever, if Debian doesn't change its package |
| 02:24 | I mean arguably a code change would be too, although it would be explicit - rather than hidden | |
| 02:27 | The other pro is mine is available in about 10 seconds from now heh | |
| 02:32 | Bug 23653 | |
| 02:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23653 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 02:32 | dcook | I'm happy with either a Debian dependency fix or this code fix. Figure it's nice to have options. |
| 02:37 | tuxayo | yep |
| 02:37 | > The other pro is mine is available in about 10 seconds from now heh | |
| 02:37 | he he | |
| 02:37 | Wait, I forgot to report to swagger.io that there schema hosting is down! :o | |
| 02:37 | Doing that now | |
| 02:39 | dcook | Oh yeah that would be a good one heh |
| 02:39 | tuxayo | done |
| 02:40 | dcook | Although I'm kind of grateful for it in a way, since it exposes this fairly unacceptable reliance on the outside world |
| 02:40 | I've set up a number of non-Internet connected Koha installations over the years | |
| 02:40 | No reason for Koha to require the Internet | |
| 02:40 | tuxayo | > grateful for it in a way, since it exposes this fairly unacceptable reliance on the outside world |
| 02:40 | yep | |
| 02:40 | It's a good moment to happen in summer ^^ | |
| 02:41 | dcook | Well, it's winter here and the end of the financial year heh |
| 02:41 | tuxayo | > non-Internet connected Koha installations |
| 02:41 | I heard about a few of them also | |
| 02:41 | dcook | I guess a lot of people did just pay their bills in June so that's handy |
| 02:41 | >_> | |
| 02:41 | For instance, we helped one school that is physically quite distant from any Internet service | |
| 02:42 | I think it's provided using a microwave beam to a tower several kilometres away | |
| 02:42 | That one is in Kyrgyzstan | |
| 02:42 | tuxayo | Yeah, WiFi with directional antennas can do that |
| 02:42 | wow :D | |
| 02:42 | > I guess a lot of people did just pay their bills in June so that's handy | |
| 02:42 | I didn't get that ^^" | |
| 02:43 | dcook | They had some networking troubles, but weren't Internet connected, so I remotely instructed them on how to use the CLI in English... where the person working was an English speaker with a Russian translator and the Debian was in Russian... heh |
| 02:43 | tuxayo | Until know I only though the dependence on swagger.io was for tests. But nope ^^" |
| 02:43 | wooooooooooooow | |
| 02:43 | dcook | That was a special day for me lol |
| 02:43 | tuxayo | congrats to whole chain that it worked |
| 02:44 | dcook | Yeah, it was pretty amazing |
| 02:44 | I still am amazed we managed to cooperate so well | |
| 02:44 | I don't think we refer to swagger.io in the tests? At least I hope not | |
| 02:45 | Anyway, probably time for me to get some lunch and decompress O_O | |
| 02:45 | tuxayo: Check out the patch if you have a few minutes. It wound up being a lot easier than I anticipated | |
| 02:47 | tuxayo | > I don't think we refer to swagger.io in the tests? |
| 02:47 | Indeed, but I guess it's for the same reasons of the current issue required to run the tests. | |
| 02:47 | ok, reading the patch | |
| 02:48 | I'm signing off while I'm at it. | |
| 02:49 | Quite small patch indeed! | |
| 02:59 | dcook | Cheers :) |
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| 03:02 | tuxayo | Well done dcook o/ |
| 03:06 | dcook | Thanks. I'm like a bulldog with problems I guess. Have to understand and fix it >_> |
| 03:06 | Speaking of sinking my teeth into things, I'm going to go get some lunch O_O | |
| 03:07 | bbiab | |
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| 03:35 | tuxayo | bug 23653 |
| 03:35 | wahanui | bug 23653 is the Swagger-apocalypse!!!!! https://i.ytimg.com/vi/m0h7ESBEf3U/hqdefault.jpg |
| 03:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23653 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 03:36 | tuxayo | muahahaha |
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| 03:51 | dcook | Too right |
| 03:56 | Hmm you know something else to keep in mind is that the API brought down the whole of Koha... | |
| 03:56 | I mean I guess the Intranet and maybe the OPAC increasingly depend on the API so maybe that's not a bad thing per se... | |
| 03:58 | Oh it looks like Mason has updated the package | |
| 04:01 | Interesting... it has a number of additional dependencies | |
| 04:01 | Or maybe my test instance is just a bit messed up.. | |
| 04:02 | Ah yep. It was just messed up | |
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| 04:22 | mtj | hmm, ive clicked that both ubuntu eoan and focal have higer versions of libjson-validator-perl than 3.06 |
| 04:23 | .. so they choose those versions over the 3.06+koha patched version :/ | |
| 04:27 | i might have to use libjson-validator-perl 3.23, over 3.06 | |
| 04:27 | js-val 3.25 has some problematic deps, like libsereal-encoder-perl (>= 4.00) | |
| 04:29 | dcook++ many thanks for the swagger patch | |
| 04:30 | dcook | Yikes! Thanks for the heads up |
| 04:30 | Glad that I'm so busy I hadn't tried deploying it too widely | |
| 04:31 | mtj++ I'd have pulled out hair if it weren't for your workaround this morning | |
| 04:31 | mtj: Can you update https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23653 with your notes? | |
| 04:31 | huginn | Bug 23653: blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 04:31 | dcook | At the moment, I'm saying the updated package is all good |
| 04:32 | mtj | yep, will do ^ |
| 04:38 | dcook | Thanks :D |
| 05:07 | aleisha | hi can someone please tell me how to enable strict_sql_modes on my dev environment? |
| 05:07 | i've enabled the flag in etc/koha-conf.xml but that doesn't seem to have changed anything | |
| 05:08 | is there something else i need to do? | |
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| 05:27 | dcook | aleisha: what are you trying to test? |
| 05:28 | Ah I think I know | |
| 05:28 | aleisha: After you updated etc/koha-conf.xml, did you clear your Memcached? | |
| 05:29 | That'll bite you every time O_O | |
| 05:29 | aleisha | yes i restarted it and mysqld |
| 05:29 | dcook | Ahh that might explain why I get different results from the mysql CLI and Koha... |
| 05:29 | aleisha | strangely no errors :/ |
| 05:30 | dcook | You were expecting errors? |
| 05:31 | aleisha | bug 24488 |
| 05:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24488 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Holds to Pull sometimes shows the wrong 'first patron' details |
| 05:32 | aleisha | im not see the errors that others have seen with strict_sql_modes enabled |
| 05:33 | im heading home now but will come to this tomorrow :) | |
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| 06:19 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:28 | dcook | @later tell aleisha Hmm no idea |
| 06:28 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:28 | dcook | heya reiveune |
| 06:28 | * dcook | refers people to Bug 23653 |
| 06:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23653 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 06:29 | dcook | If Europeans aren't experiencing problems yet, I imagine they will soon |
| 06:36 | mtj | i have built a json-validator-3.23 ready - just testing it on jenkins before golive |
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| 06:44 | dcook | mtj: I was wondering where you were at. That's good to know. |
| 06:44 | mtj is certainly the Koha hero of the day I reckon | |
| 06:44 | Or Days because of timezones heh | |
| 06:50 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #13: FAILURE in 3 min 24 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_U16/13/ |
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| 06:55 | cait1 | morning all |
| 06:56 | can someone help me on how to diagnose the Plack issue? | |
| 06:57 | dcook | Sure |
| 06:57 | cait1 | so far we have one report for one instance on a server with others that is slow... |
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| 06:57 | cait1 | is there any rule on which versions / OS are affected? |
| 06:57 | dcook | Debian/Ubuntu for sure |
| 06:58 | I didn't have the issue on OpenSUSE as we're using a CPAN module there which doesn't have the problem | |
| 06:58 | cait1 | we are on Debian |
| 06:58 | dcook | I'm not sure which versions of Koha. I'd say definitely 19.11+ but maybe 19.05+ |
| 06:58 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:58 | dcook | I'd say chances are you're affected, cait1 |
| 06:58 | Because it's early in the day for you, you may still have some long-lived Plack processes going | |
| 06:58 | But as new ones are created, they'll fail | |
| 06:59 | And you'll notice a loop of failures in your plack-error.log | |
| 06:59 | mtj | dcook: ^ thanks, its makes a nice change from breaking things :p |
| 06:59 | dcook | mtj: heh |
| 06:59 | cait1: One of the easiest solutions is here https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=23653#c11 | |
| 06:59 | cait1 | yea the first report is from jakarta |
| 06:59 | huginn | Bug 23653: blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 06:59 | cait1 | so ... they have been busy earlier than us |
| 06:59 | dcook | Yep makes sense |
| 07:00 | cait1 | we are 18.11 |
| 07:00 | dcook | Hmm probably still affected |
| 07:00 | I think anything with the Mojolicious::OpenAPI plugin will be affected | |
| 07:00 | So anything running the REST API I would think | |
| 07:01 | mtj | cait1: the plack bug depends on which version of libjson-validator-perl you have |
| 07:01 | dcook | That uses the Debian package for libjson-validator-perl |
| 07:01 | ^ | |
| 07:01 | The Debian team excluded some files which turned out to be quite essential | |
| 07:01 | Due to http://swagger.io/v2/schema.json being unavailable currently | |
| 07:02 | Still no idea whether the unavailability is intentional or not | |
| 07:02 | I'm guessing unintentional since they're still showing v2 docs at https://swagger.io/docs/specif[…]/basic-structure/ | |
| 07:02 | cait1 | and we are in the middle of an update on one of our servers too :( |
| 07:02 | dcook | If you're able to pop on, there is a quick workaround that can save you |
| 07:02 | cait1 | strange question... but has someone tried to get them to fix that? |
| 07:02 | dcook | yeah tuxayo reported it to them |
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| 07:03 | cait1 | we will have tof ix the broken link, but that woudl at least give some relief |
| 07:03 | dcook | Oh we have lots of solutions already in the works heh |
| 07:03 | The relief for now is to create this file: /usr/share/perl5/JSON/Validator/cache/36d1bd12eeed51e86c8695bd8876a9df | |
| 07:04 | You could copy https://raw.githubusercontent.[…]/v2.0/schema.json to /usr/share/perl5/JSON/Validator/cache/36d1bd12eeed51e86c8695bd8876a9df | |
| 07:04 | That would be the fastest way to do it | |
| 07:04 | although you'd have to manually create the /usr/share/perl5/JSON/Validator/cache directory | |
| 07:04 | cait1: I also have a patch that can fix the problem available on that Bugzilla report | |
| 07:05 | And mtj is almost done preparing a new libjson-validator-perl package which will also resolve the problem | |
| 07:05 | * dcook | might hang around for a bit to help folk even though it's home time |
| 07:12 | dcook | Ok it's a lot quieter than I thought it would be |
| 07:12 | cait1 | i thought the package was done? |
| 07:13 | I don't have server access so have to forward the information | |
| 07:13 | is this fix working? https://lists.koha-community.o[…]-July/045842.html | |
| 07:16 | dcook | It was but then mtj found some dependency issues for newer versions of Ubuntu, so had to redo it with a newer version |
| 07:16 | I tested it on Debian Jessie and it worked | |
| 07:16 | Version 3.06+dfsg-1+koha1 that is | |
| 07:17 | cait1 | it woudl be good to communicate that |
| 07:17 | dcook | Yeah, I thought that he'd updated Bugzilla. He has it on IRC further up. |
| 07:17 | Oh I think he has 3.23 up now too | |
| 07:18 | I can see 3.23+dfsg-1+koha1 available | |
| 07:18 | So yeah you'd probably be fine doing an "apt-get update && apt-get install libjson-validator-perl" | |
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| 07:22 | dcook | cait1: ^ |
| 07:23 | cait1 | the issue is, my coworker says there is no JSON error in the logs |
| 07:23 | so at the moment i am a little puzzled | |
| 07:24 | mtj | dcook: hiya, just testing 3.23 on the staging repo... |
| 07:24 | dcook | mtj: Oh oops |
| 07:24 | Didn't realize koha-testing-docker used the staging repo | |
| 07:25 | cait1: That's a tough one to troubleshoot remotely :/ | |
| 07:26 | mtj | cait1: id say you are running an older koha and/or debian - so you havent hit the problem |
| 07:27 | dcook | I think I'll do a quick check now to see if 18.11 will be bitten by it |
| 07:27 | mtj | if you are on 18.11 with jessie , you will have libjson-validator-perl (0.97-1~kohadev1) |
| 07:27 | cait1 | older Koha yes, but our Debian is not so old i think |
| 07:27 | dcook | Yeah 18.11 should be vulnerable |
| 07:27 | Oh is that one OK? | |
| 07:28 | That's interesting | |
| 07:28 | mtj | ^ that was built from cpan, so has cache dir (i think) |
| 07:28 | dcook | Yeah just noticed the kohadev1. That's promising |
| 07:28 | cait1 | so 18.11 on jessie should be ok? |
| 07:29 | mtj | yep ^ |
| 07:29 | dcook | I guess one way to make sure.. |
| 07:30 | mtj | confirmed libjson-validator-perl (0.97-1~kohadev1) has the cache dir |
| 07:30 | cait1 | thx for your help dcook and mtj |
| 07:30 | dcook | Yep |
| 07:30 | Confirmed it too just now | |
| 07:31 | cait1 | Debian 4.9.210 on about page... stretch? |
| 07:31 | dcook | Stretch should be ok too |
| 07:31 | https://packages.debian.org/st[…]on-validator-perl | |
| 07:31 | As Stretch comes with 0.92 | |
| 07:31 | cait1 | so which is the broken one? |
| 07:31 | dcook | Buster |
| 07:32 | cait1 | I guess we will get asked a fair bit today, so I can help |
| 07:32 | dcook | And Ubuntu 18.04+ for sure |
| 07:33 | I'll add a little summary to bugzilla | |
| 07:33 | ashimema | Mornin' |
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| 07:33 | dcook | heyo ashimema |
| 07:33 | ashimema | Sounds like you had a busy day dcook |
| 07:33 | dcook | Oh yeah lol |
| 07:33 | cait | mtj++ and dcook++ btw |
| 07:33 | dcook | Had all my servers fixed by 9:30am |
| 07:34 | ashimema | Thanks for jumped Ng on that one.. it's one I was aware of in the periphery but turned out way worse than I thought |
| 07:34 | dcook | But took a while to completely turn the code inside out |
| 07:34 | ashimema | Wasn't aware Debian had removed the cached file |
| 07:34 | dcook | Yeah I think I saw the Bugzilla report a week ago and thought nothing of it as it hadn't hit us |
| 07:36 | ashimema | I think I was the one that argued for shipping with a cached version of that file in the first place over in the openapi camp.. the is just proves how worthwhile that was |
| 07:36 | dcook | Yeah no kidding |
| 07:36 | Even if I'd argue "cache" is a bit of a misnomer in this case heh | |
| 07:37 | Or maybe I've been misunderstanding the definition all this time... | |
| 07:37 | Actually probably the latter | |
| 07:37 | * dcook | goes back to making his table instead of letting his mind be blown on the definition of cache |
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| 07:39 | cait2 | that was bad decsision number one... but also wondering why the file is still offline :( |
| 07:40 | dcook | cait2: This table should be useful: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=23653#c39 |
| 07:40 | huginn | Bug 23653: blocker, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 07:40 | dcook | Yeah I wonder why it is still offline too |
| 07:40 | Although kind of glad that it is to expose this problem at least | |
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| 07:44 | ashimema | :) |
| 07:45 | dcook | I was going to go home tonight to work on mobile games for my kid, but maybe no more coding for me tonight lol |
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| 07:51 | dcook | Just confirmed a Debian Jessie library is up and all good |
| 07:52 | cait1 | i have troubel reading comment 39 on the bug |
| 07:52 | i read it three tiems and i still not get it :) | |
| 07:53 | help? | |
| 07:53 | wahanui | rumour has it help is appreciated for bugs and keeping jenkins happy |
| 07:53 | cait1 | so... if we are building our own packageson debian stretch... what am I going to do? |
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| 07:56 | cait | hm got disconnected sorry (vpn) |
| 07:56 | dcook | You should be fine on Debian Stretch |
| 07:56 | I'll add a follow-up comment | |
| 07:58 | cait: Ok I hope comment 40 is better | |
| 07:58 | Just remembered Debian Jessie 8 was EOL yesterday | |
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| 07:59 | dcook | I have a lot of instances on Ubuntu 18.04 which is why we got hit by it so much |
| 07:59 | But all my Debian Jessie instances are fine | |
| 08:00 | And my non-Debian/Ubuntu instances are fine | |
| 08:00 | Not that I have many of those left anymore | |
| 08:00 | Hmm | |
| 08:00 | Although now that I think abotu it... | |
| 08:01 | koha-testing-docker is Debian Stretch 9 | |
| 08:01 | But it had the problem... | |
| 08:01 | Oh probably because it uses the staging repo.. | |
| 08:01 | Hmm or not.. | |
| 08:01 | * dcook | scratches his head |
| 08:02 | dcook | Or maybe I was imagining the issue in koha-testing-docker.. |
| 08:02 | Although that's when oleonard mentioned it I think.. | |
| 08:02 | Anyway, I think it's time for me to call it a night | |
| 08:02 | Wishing everyone luck with their day | |
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| 08:06 | cait | thx dcook - latest comment clears it up :) |
| 08:10 | sorry to ask again... but checkout about.pl i see we have 0.97 - later than listed on the bug. still no need to worry? | |
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| 08:14 | TimothyAlexis | Hello. :) |
| 08:15 | cait | mtj maybe? |
| 08:16 | ok, I think i found the answer: confirmed libjson-validator-perl (0.97-1~kohadev1) has the cache dir = so we are good | |
| 08:16 | mtj | hi cait, yes.. 0.97 is ok :) |
| 08:19 | fridolin | https://wiki.biblibre.com/pole[…]20-07-01:biblibre chris_n |
| 08:19 | oups wrong chan ;) | |
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| 08:23 | TimothyAlexis | In opac-serial-issues.pl, when looking at full history, the search facets look strange. Is there a patch for this? |
| 08:23 | http://www.freealization.com/f[…]it-looks-like.png | |
| 08:23 | http://www.freealization.com/f[…]t-should-look.png | |
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| 08:36 | TimothyAlexis | I will report it as a bug. |
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| 08:53 | TimothyAlexis | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25906 |
| 08:53 | huginn | Bug 25906: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , In opac-serial-issues.pl, when looking at full history, the search facet form should look good. |
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| 09:40 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 09:40 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 09:49 | ashimema | https://twitter.com/librarythi[…]77999574054043648 |
| 09:49 | Anyone fancy joining that discussion.. I'm always interested to see Koha from different view points and would love to see a good debate | |
| 09:51 | davidnind | I saw this this morning, but wasn't sure how to respond... I see you've jumped in! |
| 09:59 | sophie_m | @paul_p ton message sur koha-info va semer la panique, chez nous seuls les clients sous bionic sont concernés. |
| 09:59 | huginn | sophie_m: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 09:59 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 09:59 | sophie_m | wrong chan :-[ |
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| 10:21 | eythian | ashimema: re: looking dated, I think the only way to avoid that is to schedule a complete redesign/rewrite every three years to keep up with current fashions. Which isn't a bad idea, but likely much more work than it's worth. |
| 10:21 | Anything else is necessarily going to be incremental. | |
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| 10:50 | oleonard | ashimema: Library Thing has had it in for Koha for a long time, don't know why |
| 10:51 | ashimema | Yeah, I've noticed that |
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| 10:51 | oleonard | I don't think it's worth engaging with Tim Spalding because he seems to have some kind of grudge |
| 10:51 | ashimema | As for looking dated.. people round here have been on about redesigning to opac for ages but I've really not seen a clear way to do it which kept allot of the features people are using |
| 10:52 | Those that are really keen just aren't using the opac in my experience.. they bolt WordPress or discovery system on top instead. | |
| 10:52 | Fair points | |
| 10:57 | eythian | Wow, librarything. Turns out I last logged into that in 2007. |
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| 11:11 | Null404 | Hi, I got strange bug on Koha 18.11.16.000 - Hold queue won't updates properly |
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| 11:12 | Null404 | other Holds seems to work: Holds to pull, Holds awaiting pickup for your library and Hold ratios |
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| 11:35 | oleonard | librarytechnology.org lists 5 libraries using LibraryThing, so we do have some catching up to do. |
| 11:35 | * oleonard | needs to stop |
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| 11:42 | oleonard | khall++ |
| 11:44 | khall should Bug 4948 be "needs signoff?" | |
| 11:44 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4948 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , When cancelling a waiting hold, allow to trigger hold for next patron |
| 11:46 | khall | oleonard the patch I just submitted doesn't quite fit the description. I'm considering moving it to a separate bug. What do you think? This one operates on the checkin page, not the holds over page |
| 11:47 | oleonard | I guess a new bug would be appropriate |
| 11:47 | I've got my signoff ready :) | |
| 11:47 | khall | oleonard I'll take care of that right now then! |
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| 11:48 | oleonard | It's too bad it wasn't just right for 4948 because fixing a 10-year-old bug with one line is pretty cool 8) |
| 11:54 | khall | oleonard https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25907 |
| 11:54 | huginn | Bug 25907: minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , When cancelling a waiting hold on returns.pl, looks for new hold to fill without rescanning barcode |
| 11:54 | khall | oleonard I'll prolly be working on that one too, but I need to talk to talljoy about it |
| 11:55 | cait2 | khall: could yougive your opinion on the pathological holds patch maybe? |
| 11:55 | khall | cait2 what's the bug number? |
| 12:05 | tcohen | morning |
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| 12:22 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 12:40 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 12:40 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 12:43 | tcohen | who's aaru_swartz? |
| 12:43 | wahanui | i guess aaru_swartz is facing an issue in uploading bulk data in Koha |
| 12:47 | tcohen | I mistakenly thought they had +o perms on the channel |
| 12:49 | cait2 any doubts about my position on that field name? | |
| 12:51 | mtj | hi tcohen, ive been testing a new package for 23653 |
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| 12:51 | tcohen | mtj cool |
| 12:52 | mtj | it looks like it might work for ubuntu 20,19,18 - but breaks on ubuntu 16 |
| 12:52 | tcohen | because it is a newer version? |
| 12:54 | mtj | hmm, i think its because u16's perl version is older, and causes a problem.. |
| 12:54 | 00:04:19.051 koha_1 | # Tried to use 'Koha::REST::V1'. | |
| 12:54 | 00:04:19.051 koha_1 | # Error: "uniq" is not exported by the List::Util module | |
| 12:54 | https://jenkins.koha-community[…]05_U16/15/console | |
| 12:56 | ...i havent quite got to a fix for it yet :/ | |
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| 13:00 | tcohen | doesn't Ubuntu 16 rely on a different repo schema? |
| 13:04 | mtj | hmm, im not quite sure what you mean tcohen? |
| 13:05 | i think 'uniq' was added to libscalar-list-utils-perl in 1.47 - and u16 has 1.43 :'( | |
| 13:06 | tcohen | can't we keep the older library version, but with the cached file? |
| 13:08 | mtj | i think short answer is no - that wont work for u20 and u19, they will use higer pkg versions |
| 13:10 | hmm, let me test a few ideas... | |
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| 13:21 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 13:30 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 13:39 | mtj | hmm, i think ive found a combo of json-validator and libmojolicious-plugin-openapi that works for all versions |
| 13:39 | tcohen | mtj++ |
| 13:39 | mtj | tests pending... but it looks promising |
| 13:42 | swagger.io is back up too -> http://swagger.io/v2/schema.json | |
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| 15:41 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:45 | tuxayo | dcook: «I'm not sure which versions of Koha. I'd say definitely 19.11+ but maybe 19.05+» |
| 15:45 | cait2 : bug 23653 is 19.11+ so no worries on 18.11 | |
| 15:45 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23653 blocker, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 15:49 | tuxayo | «I think anything with the Mojolicious::OpenAPI plugin will be affected» |
| 15:49 | Oh, maybe something else makes my 19.05 Koha on Debian work. | |
| 15:52 | Here is the test that showed that version 19.05 works: | |
| 15:52 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=23653#c16 | |
| 15:52 | huginn | Bug 23653: blocker, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 15:54 | tcohen | tuxayo, please communicate with mtj, we need coordination for a proper solution to this in the long term |
| 15:54 | (i.e. so it doesn't bite us again) | |
| 15:58 | tuxayo | I'm just catching up and giving some info buried in the bug report ^^ |
| 15:58 | (Ok it's fine Debian 9 that's why) | |
| 16:00 | > we need coordination for a proper solution to this in the long term | |
| 16:00 | That's seems to be moving forward in the bug report. With the solution via patch and the one via a package from the Koha repo. | |
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| 17:15 | oleonard | tcohen still around? |
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| 17:27 | tcohen | oleonard yes |
| 17:29 | oleonard | See Bug 25909 |
| 17:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25909 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Recent change to datatables JS in the OPAC causes errors |
| 17:31 | * oleonard | resists the urge to suggest the xpm format in reply to the Webp question on the mailing list |
| 17:42 | tcohen | oleonard what is the difference between _ and __ |
| 17:42 | is _ wrong? and the right one __? | |
| 17:42 | I always forget | |
| 17:43 | I think it was Joubu's follow-up | |
| 17:43 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ent.cgi?id=105922 | |
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| 18:15 | oleonard | Sorry tcohen, I had to be afk for a bit |
| 18:15 | tcohen | no worries, I understood the difference between _ and __ already and submitted a patch |
| 18:16 | that OPAC portion of the bug was supposed to be used by bug 20936 that sunk and we went the-old-way to avoid it being blocked by the discussion about the API implementation details | |
| 18:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20936 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Signed Off , Holds History for patrons in OPAC |
| 18:18 | oleonard | tcohen, unfortunately the single-underscore function won't do anything because it doesn't work inside a JS file. We have to go back to passing the MSG_DT_* variables |
| 18:18 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e545b8eccc#patch2 | |
| 18:19 | tcohen | ah |
| 18:19 | that's sad :-D | |
| 18:19 | how does it work on staff and not in the OPAC | |
| 18:20 | oleonard | tcohen: Because no one has signed off on Bug 25351 yet :) |
| 18:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25351 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move cart-related strings out of opac-bottom.inc and into basket.js |
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| 18:43 | cait | can someone take my twitter? |
| 18:43 | oleonard | cait does your Twitter need to be put in a time-out? |
| 18:45 | cait | kind of, i want to avoid getting more upset and writing things |
| 18:46 | oleonard | I am certainly working hard to not engage that Library Thing troll |
| 18:47 | cait | I lost that fight :( |
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| 19:04 | davidnind | ashimema++ |
| 19:04 | cait++ | |
| 19:04 | (for replying to the tweet) | |
| 19:05 | cait | i am very doubtful |
| 19:06 | davidnind | sends oleonard virtual cookies/chocolate/beverage of choice |
| 19:07 | and to all the Koha contributors, continually making Koha better | |
| 19:08 | * tcohen | catches one |
| 19:12 | davidnind | I personally don't mind the OPAC design - it is straight forward, functional and easy to use (maybe I've become a bit too familiar with it) |
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| 19:29 | tcohen | cait where do I look for that conversation |
| 19:31 | davidnind | tcohen: https://twitter.com/librarythi[…]77999574054043648 |
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| 19:32 | cait | yep there |
| 19:49 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #28: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D10/28/ |
| 19:49 | Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #18: STILL UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_U18/18/ | |
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| 19:56 | ashimema | Evening |
| 19:59 | * ashimema | doesn't like people spreading FUD so tried hard to be the friendly but informative positive spin person |
| 19:59 | * cait | tried to stick with facts... |
| 19:59 | cait | but i think it got lost anyway :) |
| 19:59 | ashimema | Certainly had some positive affects.. got to showcase so more recent features and show off positive relationships. |
| 20:00 | Meeting? | |
| 20:00 | wahanui | Meeting is probably over :) |
| 20:00 | ashimema | I'm coming from my phone so can't volunteer to run it tonight |
| 20:00 | * cait | just had espresso in hope to stay awake |
| 20:02 | * tuxayo | runs to get water and food |
| 20:03 | davidnind | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020 |
| 20:03 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jul 1 20:03:53 2020 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 20:03 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 20:03 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 20:03 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_1_july_2020' |
| 20:04 | davidnind | #chair cait ashimema |
| 20:04 | huginn | Current chairs: ashimema cait davidnind |
| 20:04 | davidnind | #info Agenda: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_1_July_2020 |
| 20:04 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 20:04 | davidnind | #topic Introductions |
| 20:04 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 20:04 | cait | oops, too early |
| 20:04 | tallerjoy | #info Joy Nelson Bywater Solutions |
| 20:05 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 20:05 | :) | |
| 20:05 | lukeG1 | #info Lucas Gass ByWater Solutions |
| 20:05 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 20:06 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater |
| 20:06 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens ByWater |
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| 20:07 | tuxayo | #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
| 20:08 | davidnind | #topic Announcements |
| 20:08 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 20:08 | davidnind | Has anyone got any announcements to share? |
| 20:09 | cait | oh |
| 20:09 | i got one | |
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| 20:09 | davidnind | Nice update on kohacon20 is here https://www.catalyst.net.nz/bl[…]2%80%93-episode-1 |
| 20:10 | cait | #info Please help testing Bug 20271 - Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables! (also see Call for Testing on koha-devel) |
| 20:10 | davidnind | #info Update on Kohacon20 https://www.catalyst.net.nz/bl[…]2%80%93-episode-1 |
| 20:10 | Thanks cait! | |
| 20:10 | #topic Update from the Release manager (20.11) | |
| 20:10 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (20.11) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 20:11 | davidnind | Possible a bit late for Joubu... so moving on. |
| 20:11 | tuxayo | For bug 20271, a summary is here: |
| 20:11 | https://lists.koha-community.o[…]-June/045810.html | |
| 20:11 | tcohen | he's offline |
| 20:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables |
| 20:11 | davidnind | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 20:11 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 20:12 | tcohen | I've successfully tested yesterday an |
| 20:12 | d a 0bit t0oday | |
| 20:12 | davidnind | thanks tcohen! |
| 20:12 | tcohen | Javier says hi to the keyboard |
| 20:12 | there's an issue with teh atomicupdate | |
| 20:12 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-E |
| 20:12 | tuxayo | rmaints? |
| 20:12 | wahanui | lukeG, aleisha, and tuxayo, I SUMMON THEE!! |
| 20:13 | davidnind | congratulations to the release maintainers aleisha and tuxayo for their first releases! |
| 20:13 | cait | tcohen: could you add what you tested here maybe tcohen? https://lite.framacalc.org/9hdw-bug_20271 |
| 20:13 | tcohen | yes m'am |
| 20:13 | cait | aleisha++ tuxayo++ |
| 20:13 | thx :) | |
| 20:13 | davidnind | #info Congratulations to the release maintainers aleisha and tuxayo for their first releases |
| 20:13 | lukeG1 | First maintain release was last week for the new team. Things seem to be going well. Thanks to Joubu for rolling the 20.05.01 release for me while I was away! |
| 20:13 | tuxayo | 19.05.x: first release was done. I'm looking forward to next ones to less struggle ^^ |
| 20:13 | Joubu++ | |
| 20:14 | Thanks to various people here on the channel that helped me! :D <3 | |
| 20:14 | davidnind | Excellent! |
| 20:14 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
| 20:14 | ashimema | Well done guys and gals |
| 20:15 | davidnind | #topic Updates from the QA team |
| 20:15 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 20:16 | cait | #info QA team is bigger, list is too! :) |
| 20:16 | looking for something to add :9 | |
| 20:17 | ashimema | Trying to keep up cait. But also catching up on work |
| 20:17 | cait | at the moment the queue has a lot of bigger patches, so getting the numbers down is not so easy |
| 20:17 | but we will keep at it | |
| 20:17 | ashimema | Nice to see more names regularly on the QA leaderboards |
| 20:17 | tuxayo | No worries about numbers, it's the big stuff window now! |
| 20:17 | davidnind | one bug at a time :-D |
| 20:18 | cait | yep, that's the thing, one bug at a time :) |
| 20:18 | ashimema | +1 |
| 20:18 | davidnind | thanks cait and the QA team! |
| 20:19 | #topic Actions from last meeting | |
| 20:19 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 20:20 | davidnind | as there are a few items, maybe just a quick comment from whomever is responsible |
| 20:20 | tuxayo | «tuxayo write a proposal for handing over stable branches» |
| 20:20 | Late sorry, not drafted for now | |
| 20:21 | cait | #info testing day turned into a 2 week thing, maybe will try a different approach next time :) |
| 20:21 | davidnind | thanks tuxayo! |
| 20:21 | ashimema | Yikes.. I failed on both my actions |
| 20:22 | cait | and you wrote the action reminder thing :) |
| 20:22 | davidnind | with action points being picked up by the meeting script, I guess I just add as actions again.. |
| 20:22 | tuxayo | yep |
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| 20:22 | davidnind | #action tuxayo - write a proposal for handing over stable branches |
| 20:23 | tuxayo | Thanks davidnind I was searching the thing |
| 20:23 | davidnind | #action ashimema - open a bug report to introduce the idea of having a "skeleton" template we could copy for new pages |
| 20:23 | ashimema | I did start drafting, but got distracted.. |
| 20:23 | Thanks davidnind | |
| 20:23 | davidnind | #action ashimema - to draft the first 'Accessibility' guideline; All OPAC pages require a single 'maincontent' classed block. |
| 20:24 | #action ashimema - write a guideline about mandatory 'maincontent' class (OPAC) | |
| 20:24 | cait | I think oleonard had suggested to wait with the template until we got the bootstrap update in? (iirc?) |
| 20:24 | tuxayo | Lot of homework for ashimema |
| 20:24 | cait: Indeed that was mentioned. Not sure about the outcome. | |
| 20:24 | ashimema | I think so too cait |
| 20:25 | davidnind | okay, that sounds sensible |
| 20:25 | I'll manually update the agenda for next time to remove it | |
| 20:25 | ashimema | 😀 |
| 20:26 | cait | ;) |
| 20:26 | davidnind | #info "skeleton" template we could copy for new pages - deferred until Boostrap update merged |
| 20:26 | talljoy? | |
| 20:26 | wahanui | well, talljoy is here :) |
| 20:26 | tallerjoy | yes? |
| 20:27 | davidnind | the action point for inclusive language |
| 20:27 | ashimema | You were drafting a language guideline |
| 20:27 | tallerjoy | Well, i was going to, but it appears that someone already updated the coding guidelines terminology page. |
| 20:28 | so, it didn't seem relevant to propose it? But i can still write one if you'd like it. | |
| 20:28 | cait | do you have the link maybe? |
| 20:28 | tallerjoy | https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology |
| 20:29 | cait | ah ok, the terminology |
| 20:29 | tallerjoy | that link? |
| 20:29 | kidclamp | bye all. gotta run |
| 20:29 | cait | was looking at coding guidelines |
| 20:29 | davidnind | #info Terminology list updated for more inclusive language for https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology |
| 20:29 | tuxayo | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]erms_must_be_used |
| 20:29 | cait | should we have a more general rule? |
| 20:29 | we only deal with deny list etc now | |
| 20:29 | tallerjoy | this is a terminology issue mainly, so putting it there seems most appropriate. |
| 20:29 | cait | i think having a guideline as we find more would be helfpul |
| 20:29 | TERM3 maybe, after gender neutral pronouns | |
| 20:30 | that would be a good spot | |
| 20:30 | tuxayo | Doesn't TERM1 work? |
| 20:30 | tallerjoy | i had that though, but also tuxayo's thought |
| 20:30 | cait | only if you have already listed it |
| 20:30 | so someone hands something in... we think it's bad... QA could refer to general rule about inclusive language | |
| 20:31 | also a terminology list and stating that you want to use inclusive language are different things | |
| 20:31 | explicit and implicit | |
| 20:31 | if that makes sense? | |
| 20:32 | tallerjoy | It would be easy to draft something for a TERM3 section. I can do that. I think also folks wanted some context as well about why the change was proposed, and I can include that as well. |
| 20:32 | cait | yep |
| 20:32 | tallerjoy | thanks cait. |
| 20:32 | cait | context |
| 20:32 | davidnind | tallerjoy++ |
| 20:32 | ashimema | Perfect |
| 20:32 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 20:32 | tcohen | talljoy++ |
| 20:33 | bag | tallerjoy++ |
| 20:33 | cait | tallestjoy++ |
| 20:33 | :P | |
| 20:33 | tallerjoy | :D |
| 20:33 | tcohen | tallerjoy++ |
| 20:33 | davidnind | #action tallerjoy - Draft TERM3 for for inclusive language |
| 20:33 | ashimema | Lol |
| 20:33 | Toomanyjoys++ | |
| 20:34 | tallerjoy | heh |
| 20:34 | ashimema | Hehe |
| 20:34 | davidnind | Once that is done I guess we will need some bugs for any changes required, but that will come later |
| 20:35 | tuxayo | «why the change was proposed» |
| 20:35 | Indeed it was at the proposal stage, so a draft submitted at a meeting would help more people more of us understand the reasons. | |
| 20:35 | That depend of the culture and background: the POV of what kind of language changes are desirable. | |
| 20:36 | tallerjoy | and also to see what other languages have different inclusive language concerns as well. |
| 20:36 | tuxayo | yep |
| 20:36 | cait | yeah i think translators coudl refer to the rule as well |
| 20:36 | tallerjoy | good point! |
| 20:37 | davidnind | agree, always important that the rationale for a guideline or rule is identified/documented |
| 20:37 | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) | |
| 20:37 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 20:37 | davidnind | thanks tallerjoy! |
| 20:38 | there are no names beside the agenda items... | |
| 20:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #195: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D9/195/ |
| 20:38 | davidnind | start removing 'indirect object notation' calls - bug 25898 |
| 20:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25898 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Prohibit indirect object notation |
| 20:38 | davidnind | any takers for this one? |
| 20:38 | tcohen | +1 |
| 20:38 | ashimema | The first one is about advocating more modern best practice.. we mostly do it already |
| 20:39 | It's 'new thing' Vs 'thing->new' syntactically in code | |
| 20:39 | davidnind | does this need to be a coding guideline? |
| 20:39 | ashimema | The latter is more modern and is where perl appears to be headed in general |
| 20:40 | davidnind | or is it just something that needs to be done? |
| 20:40 | cait | it looks like it would be reaosnably safe to replace? |
| 20:40 | tuxayo | The manual equivalent of git blame but for the wiki blames ashimema for this meeting item :P |
| 20:40 | ashimema | Yup |
| 20:41 | cait | always good to have a coding guideline and qa tools updated |
| 20:41 | for these kind of things if we are serious about it | |
| 20:41 | davidnind | (not sure whether developers need a guideline for everything, or they automagically pick these things up) |
| 20:41 | cait | davidnind: i don't think so, because code base is big and undocumented expectations are hard |
| 20:41 | ashimema | Yup.. we should guideline it and add it to QA tools |
| 20:41 | cait | it always helps if you can point to something written to help people |
| 20:41 | ashimema | Ack.. I sense more homework coming |
| 20:42 | cait | especially the ones new to the project |
| 20:42 | davidnind | #info start removing 'indirect object notation' calls - bug 25898 and add as a coding guideline |
| 20:42 | tuxayo | ++ |
| 20:42 | davidnind | so who gets this one? :) |
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| 20:44 | davidnind | #action ashimema - add a draft coding guideline for direct notation rather than indirect object notation calls |
| 20:44 | ashimema | Joubu.. for his absence 😛 |
| 20:44 | Lol | |
| 20:44 | davidnind | volunteered! |
| 20:44 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 20:45 | tuxayo | "Seeking cosponsors" |
| 20:45 | ashimema | Hehe |
| 20:45 | This next one was me too | |
| 20:46 | I was just surprised to see the two varieties in the dB structure and wondered if there was a reason to go for one or the other | |
| 20:46 | Brb | |
| 20:46 | davidnind | we'll tackle the Perl version until ashimema is back |
| 20:47 | was any general consensus reached on this with developers on the minimum version (I sort of followed some of the discussion, but....) | |
| 20:48 | tuxayo | About item 2: «the former appears in schema classes at dump time.» |
| 20:48 | Is this good? | |
| 20:48 | ashimema | Back. |
| 20:48 | * cait | lost the wiki page again |
| 20:48 | tuxayo | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_1_July_2020 |
| 20:49 | cait | I tihnk we picked what will show up on schema |
| 20:49 | schema? | |
| 20:49 | Example: http://schema.koha-community.o[…]tables/items.html | |
| 20:49 | tuxayo | I suppose both show? Otherwise part of them is much less useful :o |
| 20:50 | davidnind | I like consistency so ... |
| 20:50 | cait | it's been a whie, do we have an example for comment? |
| 20:50 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 20:50 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 20:50 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #197: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D8/197/ |
| 20:50 | tuxayo | I'm searching |
| 20:51 | cait | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_in_kohastructure.sql |
| 20:51 | We have updated Schema Spy a few times since - not sure if there was a change | |
| 20:52 | tuxayo | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]kohastructure.sql |
| 20:52 | ashimema | I would hope schemaspy would grab both |
| 20:52 | tuxayo | Two instance of "COMMENT=" |
| 20:52 | And it's on tables | |
| 20:52 | schemaspy uses it for the table description | |
| 20:52 | ashimema | The -- version only appears in the dumpfile so can't get picked up by dbic dump.. hense why only 'COMMENT' works in the dbic context.. |
| 20:53 | cait | I'd hate to lose the comments on schema |
| 20:53 | maybe we can find something that works for both | |
| 20:53 | ashimema | In the dbic context it's just the addition of information in the POD.. so describes the fields use in the code rather than having to refer to schemaspy or the kohastructure to find out. |
| 20:53 | tuxayo | ashimema: this is an example of the alternative? |
| 20:53 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]kohastructure.sql | |
| 20:54 | whoops | |
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| 20:54 | tuxayo | * https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]tructure.sql#L132 |
| 20:54 | CREATE TABLE `biblio` ( -- table that stores bibliographic information | |
| 20:55 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 20:55 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 20:55 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #192: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U18/192/ |
| 20:55 | ashimema | collections_tracking has COMMENT at the field level |
| 20:55 | How does it appear in the schemaspy schema | |
| 20:56 | I also don't know if you need different options when dumping schema via schemaspy to pick them up if we don't already.. | |
| 20:56 | cait | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]ons_tracking.html |
| 20:56 | tuxayo | Ok, so it's like that in SQL |
| 20:56 | `name` varchar(255) NOT NULL COMMENT 'the name of the field as it will be stored in the search engine', | |
| 20:56 | cait | not sure if it looks right (sparse comments?) |
| 20:57 | tuxayo | For search field it's ok |
| 20:57 | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]search_field.html | |
| 20:57 | > not sure if it looks right (sparse comments?) | |
| 20:57 | Seems right | |
| 20:59 | ashimema | Struggling to follow in phone.. but it sounds like the COMMENT version works for both.. so I think I'd advocate moving to that consistently ? |
| 20:59 | As apposed to mixing and matching | |
| 21:00 | davidnind | sounds sensible to me, but I know nothing about this :) |
| 21:00 | tuxayo | It that the same for the table comment? |
| 21:00 | davidnind | so, looks like an updated guideline is required - who would like to do that? |
| 21:01 | ashimema | Fancy investigating that side of it and drafting a guideline tuxayo? |
| 21:01 | tuxayo | ok! |
| 21:01 | ashimema | I can help tomorrow |
| 21:02 | cait | cool |
| 21:02 | tuxayo | I'm writing the action |
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| 21:02 | davidnind | #action tuxayo - prepare draft update to SQL11 to improve consistency for descriptions in kohastructure files |
| 21:02 | tuxayo | thanks davidnind |
| 21:02 | davidnind | hope I got that right! |
| 21:02 | we are coming up on the hour | |
| 21:03 | defer the Perl version to the next meeting? | |
| 21:03 | ashimema | Perfec |
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| 21:04 | ashimema | Did the next one get anywhere on the lists? |
| 21:04 | I reckon defer it.. | |
| 21:04 | cait | hm it looked like 3.14? |
| 21:04 | ashimema | The conversation seemed to be ongoing on lists 😀 |
| 21:04 | tuxayo | The conclusion was to add it to the next dev meeting :P |
| 21:04 | cait | the last argument seemed that we push for the version that has the features we want |
| 21:04 | ashimema | Lol |
| 21:04 | cait | and i haven't seen someon eargueing for anything beyond 3.14 yet :) |
| 21:05 | and stick with debian/ubuntu (not go higher than there?) | |
| 21:05 | ashimema | I have in the past.. but I'm not of the same opinion now 😉 |
| 21:05 | davidnind | we could create a loop, and refer it back to the mailing list for discussion :) |
| 21:05 | tuxayo | Oh yes! |
| 21:06 | ashimema | 3.14 seems reasonable to me until we find were wanting to use something from a more recent version |
| 21:06 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 21:06 | cait | +1 |
| 21:06 | tuxayo | > stick with debian/ubuntu (not go higher than there?) |
| 21:06 | Perl seems to be very backward compatible IIUC so no issues on that side. | |
| 21:06 | ashimema | No point in artificially inflating it |
| 21:06 | davidnind | is this a voting thing, or just an info and then action to document? |
| 21:07 | ashimema | Cool |
| 21:07 | thd | without objection |
| 21:07 | tuxayo | it' just to reflect the current state of the code. There is no actual change |
| 21:07 | thd | tuxayo++ |
| 21:07 | ashimema | I reckon we've all just agreed, so let's just action it |
| 21:07 | cait | yep i think 3.14 is safe and should be done |
| 21:07 | we should update website, manual and release notes scripts | |
| 21:07 | tuxayo | *5.14 |
| 21:08 | cait | https://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
| 21:08 | hm we don't list versions there | |
| 21:08 | davidnind | #info Minimum recommended Perl version is 5.14 (until need to use a more recent version is identified) |
| 21:08 | ashimema | We should Cait.. |
| 21:08 | I'm happy to add that | |
| 21:08 | cait | yeah we probably should |
| 21:08 | tuxayo | > hm we don't list versions there |
| 21:08 | Good otherwise that would another source of inconsistency ^^" | |
| 21:09 | Like to somewhere else maybe? | |
| 21:09 | cait | #action ashimema to update requirements on website |
| 21:09 | tuxayo | Or make the other places link to this? |
| 21:09 | cait | good question |
| 21:09 | we could also say: refer to release notes of the version you want to install | |
| 21:09 | for exact version | |
| 21:09 | s | |
| 21:09 | tuxayo | To have less sources of truth |
| 21:09 | cait | that way if we change for an upcoming veresion... things would still work |
| 21:09 | ashimema | I like that.. refer to release notes |
| 21:09 | cait | i mean, the information would still be correct |
| 21:10 | sorry, late | |
| 21:10 | ashimema | Reference the definitive source |
| 21:10 | 😉 | |
| 21:10 | tuxayo | > refer to release notes of the version you want to install |
| 21:10 | This is very relevant for OS and DBMS, they can change in the middle of a cycle | |
| 21:10 | cait | checking manual |
| 21:10 | ashimema | /me is getting tired |
| 21:11 | cait | aren#t you an hour earlier even? ;) |
| 21:11 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]a-recommendations | |
| 21:11 | we shoudl update that too | |
| 21:11 | it refers to wiki, which is not really true | |
| 21:11 | Full system recommendations can be found on the official Koha wiki along with the developer documentation: http://wiki.koha-community.org | |
| 21:12 | #action cait to propose discussion about supported browsers at next meeting (IE especially) | |
| 21:12 | davidnind | Just pick the right page, and your good! |
| 21:12 | tuxayo | oleonard should be happy |
| 21:12 | davidnind | #info davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including manual and wiki (one source of the truth) |
| 21:12 | cait | yeah, that's very hard to follow as advice :) |
| 21:12 | davidnind: maybe refer to release notes too? people best check that | |
| 21:13 | tuxayo | davidnind: I can also help, these system requirements things have been a lot in my mind lately ^^ |
| 21:13 | davidnind | #action davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) |
| 21:13 | tuxayo++ | |
| 21:13 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 21:13 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 July 2020) | |
| 21:13 | cait | it's also something that's asked about reasonably often |
| 21:14 | davidnind | 14:00 next time and two weeks time? |
| 21:14 | ashimema | Worthwhile meeting everyone, thanks |
| 21:14 | tallerjoy | thanks! |
| 21:15 | ashimema | Works for me |
| 21:15 | cait | sounds good |
| 21:15 | tallerjoy | UTC time i assume. |
| 21:15 | * tallerjoy | will have to do some maths |
| 21:15 | davidnind | UTC |
| 21:15 | ashimema | #info davidnind has been an excellent chairperson, thankyou |
| 21:15 | tallerjoy | yes, that works for me |
| 21:15 | cait | davidnind++ :) |
| 21:16 | tallerjoy | davidnind++ |
| 21:16 | tuxayo | davidnind++ |
| 21:16 | davidnind | #info Next meeting: 15 July 2020, 14:00 UTC |
| 21:16 | #endmeeting | |
| 21:16 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 21:16 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jul 1 21:16:31 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:16 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-01-20.03.html | |
| 21:16 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-07-01-20.03.txt | |
| 21:16 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]01-20.03.log.html | |
| 21:16 | davidnind | thanks everyone! |
| 21:17 | first time I've chaired a development meeting I think.. | |
| 21:17 | ashimema | community++ |
| 21:17 | cait | might have been a mistake ;) |
| 21:17 | ashimema | davidnind++ |
| 21:17 | cait | we might just keep you on |
| 21:17 | davidnind | :) |
| 21:19 | tuxayo | Why do my links ended up in the minutes? :o |
| 21:19 | https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-07-01-20.03.html | |
| 21:19 | cait | hm? |
| 21:19 | davidnind | thanks for your patience everyone, we just went over the hour (an extra 12 minutes)! |
| 21:20 | tuxayo | Somehow URLs sent ended up as if it was #info |
| 21:21 | > we just went over the hour | |
| 21:21 | And we managed to not mention: | |
| 21:21 | Bug 23653! | |
| 21:21 | wahanui | bug 23653 is probably the Swagger-apocalypse!!!!! 🔥🔥 https://url.lesamarien.fr/elmo-fire 🔥🔥 (the rumor says it started there: https://url.lesamarien.fr/exibit-1) |
| 21:21 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23653 blocker, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 21:22 | inlibro joined #koha | |
| 21:23 | tuxayo | lukeG1 still around? |
| 21:25 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #1: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_U20/1/ |
| 21:27 | lukeG1 | Hey tuxayo |
| 21:27 | tuxayo | lukeG1: I laughed so much when earlier I realized this: |
| 21:28 | - you had the issue with the koha-testing-docker .env file | |
| 21:28 | - you had the issue with the koha container crashing for some reason | |
| 21:28 | - then you mistyped "kd" in the channel | |
| 21:28 | and 15 min later aleisha reported what would turn out to be bug 23653 turning into a terrible mess that would affect all recent Koha instances in the world | |
| 21:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23653 blocker, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Plack stopped working - JSON validation timeout |
| 21:28 | tuxayo | (actually only recent OSes) |
| 21:28 | cait | not all recent... |
| 21:28 | tuxayo | It's like the whole galaxy has aligned with the intention of preventing you to work after coming back from holidays [1]. Nuking part the world's Kohas if needed. |
| 21:28 | You can tell to bag that another week of holiday is an absolute necessity! | |
| 21:28 | cait | actually we only had one server with my demo instance on it dying :) |
| 21:28 | tuxayo | [1] not asking what happened there, too scared. |
| 21:29 | cait | (thankful for that really) |
| 21:29 | lukeG1 | and my personal problem was I had no $KOHA_IMAGE set |
| 21:29 | tuxayo | Od, that shouldn't be needed |
| 21:30 | lukeG1 | Once it was set it quit dying on me when I 'ku' |
| 21:31 | tuxayo | > (thankful for that really) |
| 21:31 | Indeed, I got very confused about what factor telling an instance is expected to have the issue | |
| 21:31 | cait | the last comment on the bug helps |
| 21:31 | although the version for stretch is not 92 but 97 - it seems ok | |
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| 21:36 | tuxayo | pfiou, the whole thing has great educational value about how things can get tangled |
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| 23:29 | dcook | That's interesting about Stretch and would explain a lot... |
| 23:29 | Might be because of the backports.. | |
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