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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:06 | oleonard | Aw dang I missed the Open Refine talk |
| 00:07 | rangi | im assuming they will get cut up into individual videos for easy replay eh? |
| 00:09 | bag | not sure - I know now that each session is recorded |
| 00:09 | rangi | cool |
| 00:09 | bag | @later tell jzairo - are we going to break each session up into individual videos? |
| 00:09 | huginn | bag: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:09 | rangi | we could just timestamp them too |
| 00:10 | thta'd be fine | |
| 00:10 | (i mean just have a link to the time they start on the programme) | |
| 00:12 | tuxayo | rangi |
| 00:12 | > we could just timestamp them too | |
| 00:12 | my plan was to watch everything and note the timestamp URLs and then send to the Koha list | |
| 00:12 | watch everything: or jump to the next talk if I really don't understand ^^" | |
| 00:12 | thanks bag for asking | |
| 00:13 | rangi | :) |
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| 00:16 | rangi | Margaret is cool |
| 00:18 | her slide deck is neat | |
| 00:20 | that reminds i should regenerate the schemas, but not while she is using them :) | |
| 00:21 | tuxayo | talk: |
| 00:21 | > schema is intimidating | |
| 00:21 | Much less than before though ^^" | |
| 00:21 | http://schema.koha-community.org/17_11/ | |
| 00:21 | oleonard | I'll share this now that different people are awake. I'm thinking about eliminating the checkbox column in search results: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15876657007590 I can't tell whether it's a dumb idea. |
| 00:21 | rangi | hm lemme look |
| 00:22 | for adding multiples to a list ? hmm i dunno if it is used much | |
| 00:24 | oh you mean move it | |
| 00:24 | i getcha now | |
| 00:24 | yeah i like that | |
| 00:24 | oleonard | Pros: More obvious label, possibly better for screen readers... Con: Not what people expect. |
| 00:25 | tuxayo | oleonard: good idea. It's now too much space for something not that much used. |
| 00:25 | And the text that says it's to select is a touch. | |
| 00:25 | *nice touch | |
| 00:25 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:26 | oleonard | Great, glad to hear it's not a product of quarantine delirium |
| 00:27 | rangi | :) |
| 00:27 | oleonard | I'll share it on the list and see what others think |
| 00:27 | philor | my system has a public list of Newbery Winners, obviously a bad idea, which does say that add to list gets used (accidentally) |
| 00:28 | I always forget that you can use the checkboxes to place holds, so I think of them as just lists/carts, that I don't want | |
| 00:28 | oleonard | We have a Newbery list too. Why is it a bad idea? |
| 00:28 | philor | a public list, so adding to it is the first thing listed for any patron who doesn't have a private list created already |
| 00:29 | rangi | new berrys are not ripe yet? |
| 00:29 | philor | currently at the newest of our newberys, the movie Just Mercy and three Aunt Dimity books |
| 00:29 | tuxayo | For people watching the kohathon: youtube livestream trick: |
| 00:29 | You can catch up with the livestream if you are late by some time by setting the playback speed to 1.25 | |
| 00:29 | When it's catches up, it will go back to 1.0 | |
| 00:30 | cc bag | |
| 00:30 | rangi | oh thats a cool trick |
| 00:31 | tuxayo | Might no be easy for non-native speakers like me ^^ |
| 00:31 | oleonard | philor: So when you say "public list" you mean it can be added to by anyone |
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| 00:36 | philor | oleonard: yeah, I forget that it's a separate allow changes from field rather than public/private |
| 00:37 | odds are, the person setting it that way thought "oh, I'll allow any staff member to add things, that way I won't have to remember once a year to add the new winner" | |
| 00:41 | * philor | leaves in Curry County cow theft cases, 1939 |
| 00:41 | philor | expand those young minds |
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| 01:14 | davidnind | rangi: lisettelatah said earlier on that individual videos for Kohathon2020 would be available in a day or so |
| 01:15 | rangi | perfect, thanks davidnind |
| 01:15 | hope you're well in your bubble | |
| 01:16 | davidnind | Good thanks! (In a bubble of one) |
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| 01:21 | lisettelatah | davidnind: It turns out those videos might be difficult to extract from youtube, so we might do timestamps instead, but either way there should be specific links available by early next week. |
| 01:21 | rangi | cool |
| 01:22 | davidnind | great! |
| 01:31 | tuxayo | lisettelatah |
| 01:31 | > It turns out those videos might be difficult to extract from youtube | |
| 01:31 | wahanui | well, lisettelatah is running the devbox install |
| 01:31 | tuxayo | https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/index.html |
| 01:32 | Libre open source, should be to install on Linux, macOS and Windows | |
| 01:32 | lisettelatah | thanks tuxayo! We'll look into that. |
| 01:33 | tuxayo | Someone did a UI: https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui |
| 01:34 | It actually work with +1200 videowebsite, it's insane | |
| 01:34 | *sites | |
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| 01:36 | tuxayo | I just found a command that made my day to get the time in multiple places in the world at once. (very useful here!) |
| 01:37 | zdump NZ America/Los_Angeles America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires CET | |
| 01:37 | NZ Fri Apr 24 13:37:04 2020 NZST | |
| 01:37 | America/Los_Angeles Thu Apr 23 18:37:04 2020 PDT | |
| 01:37 | America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires Thu Apr 23 22:37:04 2020 -03 | |
| 01:37 | CET Fri Apr 24 03:37:04 2020 CEST | |
| 01:38 | Installed by default on Linuxes and hopefully on macOS also | |
| 01:39 | davidnind | I use https://www.timeanddate.com/wo[…]ock/personal.html at the moment |
| 01:48 | tuxayo | neat! For a GUI as a standalone program there also gworldclock https://screenshots.debian.net[…]ckage/gworldclock |
| 01:50 | davidnind: Speaking of timezones where are you from? I didn't found you https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars | |
| 01:50 | Although you seem regular one ^^ | |
| 01:50 | *a | |
| 01:51 | davidnind | Hi tuxayo - I'm from Wellington, New Zealand |
| 01:52 | tuxayo | hi from the other side of world o/ |
| 01:55 | davidnind | Hi from nearly the bottom of the world! |
| 01:55 | tuxayo | davidnind: So, from NZ are you like from Catalyst, Katipo, HLT? |
| 01:56 | davidnind | None of the above, I work at a government agency (and we don't unfortunately use Koha :-() |
| 01:57 | tuxayo | > the bottom of the world! |
| 01:57 | Depends on the map ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]p_map_orientation | |
| 01:59 | > and we don't unfortunately use Koha | |
| 02:00 | davidnind: wait you work so much on Koha (so many signoffs!) and your dayjob isn't related to it? :o | |
| 02:00 | davidnind | True! |
| 02:00 | tuxayo | davidnind++ |
| 02:00 | hayley | davidnind is a good sort :) |
| 02:00 | tuxayo | For the huge personal time donation |
| 02:01 | hayley | davidnind++ |
| 02:01 | * tuxayo | learns english https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/good_sort |
| 02:02 | davidnind | Not so much, only in the evenings (or mornings) - mainly when I'm procrastinating about working on the documentation.. :-[ |
| 02:02 | Not so much the dependable part...:) | |
| 02:03 | tuxayo | Testing all those patches isn't that long? (please teach us your secrets!) |
| 02:06 | davidnind | I've tried to do one a day, sometimes I get carried away in the weekends! |
| 02:07 | (Some are a bit easier than others, the larger ones or ones for areas I don't know anything about can take a bit longer...) | |
| 02:13 | tuxayo | > I've tried to do one a day |
| 02:13 | nice! | |
| 02:19 | Kohathon talk: It's very nice to block the submit buttons when clicked to avoid double submit! | |
| 02:22 | @later tell oleonard do we have issues due to double submit? At Kohathon a talk showed a customization to block a submit button when clicked once. | |
| 02:22 | huginn | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:23 | hayley | there is a bug report open for that at the moment that I saw tuxayo, possibly already pushed to master |
| 02:23 | tuxayo | yay |
| 02:25 | hayley | I found bug 24085 about returns.pl but couldn't see any other obvious ones |
| 02:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24085 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to stable , Double submission of forms on returns.pl |
| 02:28 | tuxayo | hayley++ |
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| 02:42 | tuxayo | I hope at some point Koha US would support also Liberapay it for recurring donations. It's libre/open source and also supports Stripe (in addtion to Paypal) for payments. |
| 02:42 | https://liberapay.com/ | |
| 02:50 | Kohathon in 2021, yay :D | |
| 02:51 | To celebrate the end of the Kohathon: here is some music from the Japanese artist Koha-pink! | |
| 02:51 | https://invidio.us/watch?v=fOcvBSewwHc | |
| 02:51 | https://invidio.us/watch?v=ABtfre94Xj0 | |
| 02:53 | rangi | heh |
| 02:56 | tuxayo | Hooray for all Kohathon contributors! If some are here. |
| 02:57 | davidnind | lisettelatah++ |
| 02:57 | (and everyone else as well!) | |
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| 06:12 | * philor | thinks that should make marcelr think twice before saying "with detailed steps" where he will see it |
| 06:12 | philor | 28 steps just to *not* see the bug, then you have to repeat all 28 to see it :) |
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| 06:30 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:30 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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| 06:35 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:57 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:17 | cait1 | good morning #koha |
| 07:17 | marcelr | hi cait1 |
| 07:18 | cait1 | hi marcelr :) |
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| 07:51 | eythian | cait1: https://twitter.com/thisisbion[…]53146536508178433 |
| 07:51 | also, hi | |
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| 07:53 | cait1 | eythian: I am never sure if it's safe to click on your links at work :) |
| 07:54 | also, hi back ;) | |
| 07:54 | eythian | cait1: a) I don't see why not, b) why are you at work there's a pandemic going on you know. |
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| 07:55 | cait1 | working from home... |
| 07:55 | wahanui | i think working from home is still recommended |
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| 08:03 | cait1 | ups |
| 08:04 | eythian: it only shows there is some logic in my language - don't you think? :) | |
| 08:05 | eythian | cait1: tell that to the beak animal. Or the spike pig. |
| 08:08 | (to be fair, porcupine also means spike pig.) | |
| 08:10 | Joubu | @later tell khall Hi Kyle, about 15253 - did you see the other comments? indentation and undefundef? |
| 08:10 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:15 | cait1 | eythian: logical |
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| 08:36 | jajm | cait1, https://lists.koha-community.o[…]/mailman/listinfo is up |
| 08:38 | cait1 | cool thx |
| 08:38 | jajm++ | |
| 08:38 | what's laurent's nick? | |
| 08:39 | jajm | it's lds but he's not here |
| 08:39 | cait1 | lds++ still :) |
| 08:39 | jajm: was looking at course reserves this morning - hope to get back later | |
| 08:39 | homebranch | |
| 08:40 | but there is a qa tool fail | |
| 08:46 | jajm | cait1, how should i fix that ? should i only add the piece of code at the end of schema file (like in https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]DBIC_schema_files) even if the column is not present in the schema file yet ? or should i generate the whole schema file ? |
| 08:47 | cait1 | oh |
| 08:47 | maybe i forgot to run dbic? | |
| 08:47 | Joubu: around ? | |
| 08:47 | I am used to people adding the schema files, i might have just forgot, if nothing is missing on your side | |
| 08:48 | Joubu | jajm: generate schema files commit separately, then add a separate commit for the is_boolean change |
| 08:48 | jajm | cait1, no, there's a piece of code to add manually, i'm just asking if i should attach only that to the bug report, or also the generated parts |
| 08:48 | Joubu, ok thanks | |
| 08:49 | Joubu | jajm: is_boolean can be part of a "DB changes" commit (kohastructure, atomic update, etc.) |
| 08:49 | if you want to avoid a one line commit ;) | |
| 08:50 | jajm | i don't mind one line commits ;) |
| 08:50 | cait1 | Joubu: so something is still missing? |
| 08:51 | Joubu | missing from? |
| 08:56 | cait1 | bug 22630 |
| 08:56 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to change homebranch in course reserves |
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| 09:06 | ashimema | I am not sure why we do the whole Don not push schema commits |
| 09:07 | As RM I don't worry too much.. I tend to convert the commit message.. | |
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| 09:07 | Null404 | Hello there |
| 09:07 | wahanui | Greetings, programs! |
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| 09:08 | ashimema | I have scripts to regenerate the schema as part of push anyway to help me catch issues |
| 09:08 | nlegrand | a git yur |
| 09:13 | cait1 | jajm: talking to Joubu - missing some lines somewhere is the conclusion |
| 09:14 | jajm | cait1, that's a vague conclusion :) |
| 09:15 | cait1 | you shoudl listen to Joubu - ia m not making much sense today :) |
| 09:15 | (10:49:22) Joubu: jajm: is_boolean can be part of a "DB changes" commit (kohastructure, atomic update, etc.) | |
| 09:15 | jajm | cait1, i submitted new patches to bug 22630, qa tool is happy now :) |
| 09:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to change homebranch in course reserves |
| 09:17 | Null404 | It in normal that some functions are in English language instead Polsih in KOHA 19.11 ? |
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| 09:24 | davidnind | Null404: others can confirm (or say otherwise), but I think it depends how much of the translation has been done https://translate.koha-communi[…]g/projects/19.11/ |
| 09:25 | Null404 | okay |
| 09:25 | davidnind | One of the many tasks that need people to do them! :) |
| 09:26 | Null404 | if translating is done will names automatic updated ? |
| 09:28 | Joubu | Null404: in the next release |
| 09:29 | Null404 | ok, thanks for info |
| 09:30 | cait1 | Null404: the RM and RMaints pull in the most current files for every version before each release - so you can also fix stuff in older ones, while they are still maintained |
| 09:31 | ashimema | heads up qateam.. lots of improvements to the QA script just merged |
| 09:31 | Joubu++ | |
| 09:31 | qateam? | |
| 09:31 | qa_team? | |
| 09:31 | wahanui | qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall |
| 09:31 | ashimema | ^ |
| 09:32 | cait1.. one for your next weekly mail.. :) | |
| 09:32 | * ashimema | goes back to playing with the kids |
| 09:32 | ashimema | have a good one #koha |
| 09:33 | Joubu | Thanks ashimema |
| 09:33 | gitlab stopped sending me notifications, hum?... | |
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| 10:27 | khall | mornin! |
| 10:28 | Null404 | hi |
| 10:29 | khall | Joubu as long as you've verified all reserve notices use the pk now, that is a good fix |
| 10:33 | Joubu | IIRC we always send the Koha::Hold object |
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| 10:50 | Joubu | wiki? |
| 10:50 | wahanui | wiki is back :) |
| 10:50 | Joubu | it's not wahanui |
| 10:51 | now it is, weird | |
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| 10:54 | davidnind | Joubu++ |
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| 11:06 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:07 | Null404 | okay, I found opac.css location on Ubuntu |
| 11:07 | is in : /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css | |
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| 11:16 | cait1 | hi oleonard :) |
| 11:16 | you might be just on time | |
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| 11:48 | tcohen | hi alll |
| 11:48 | Null404 | hello |
| 11:48 | wahanui | hey, Null404 |
| 11:50 | tcohen | whats up Null404 |
| 11:50 | what are you trying to do? | |
| 11:53 | Null404 | I'm trying to copy opac.css file from main server to test one |
| 11:53 | a files are difrent | |
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| 11:53 | Null404 | I'm trying via ssh |
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| 12:02 | * oleonard | brb |
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| 13:13 | oleonard | Seems weird that the list "remove share" link is only on the list for the user with whom the list is shared |
| 13:14 | Why can't the sharer un-share the list? | |
| 13:14 | magnuse | too confusing for the sharer to unshare the share |
| 13:15 | oleonard | Confusing because we don't want to build in a mechanism for notifying the person that the list was unshared |
| 13:17 | cait1 | maybe also bcause it would be mean |
| 13:17 | you work on something for homeowrk (or whatever) together | |
| 13:17 | and then the other kicks you out | |
| 13:17 | and you lose access to the data :) | |
| 13:18 | * oleonard | assumes you can revoke a share in, for instance, Google Drive? |
| 13:19 | cait1 | no idea |
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| 13:44 | TimothyAlexis | Hello, is this the proper channel to bring stuff about code? |
| 13:44 | oleonard | Yes |
| 13:45 | TimothyAlexis | I was working with opac-detail.tt and made a ton of fixes with indentation and such. |
| 13:48 | We have custom code in there which I was fixing but I noticed there was a lot to fix in the base too. | |
| 13:48 | So I went through the whole file and made corrections. | |
| 13:49 | oleonard | TimothyAlexis we try to keep patches specific to one issue, each tied to a separate bug report |
| 13:49 | Indentation corrections would be just one issue, and shouldn't be mixed with other changes | |
| 13:49 | TimothyAlexis | Yeah I figured. |
| 13:49 | That's why I came here. :) | |
| 13:50 | cait1 | good decision :) |
| 13:50 | oleonard | So the first step would be to file a bug report for each of the issues you found, and make them dependent on each other if necessary |
| 13:51 | TimothyAlexis | The changes I made was for the code to agree with the https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Coding_Guidelines |
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| 13:52 | rramalho | Hi! |
| 13:52 | i'm talking from Portugal | |
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| 13:52 | TimothyAlexis | Other than that is was minor things like reduntant whitespace characters and inconsistent closing comments. |
| 13:53 | rramalho | We use Koha on our Municipality to manage all public Libraries |
| 13:53 | TimothyAlexis | Could these be treated as one issue? |
| 13:53 | rramalho | I'm having an issue that I can't find a solution for |
| 13:53 | When I search for something on the OPAC | |
| 13:54 | If the search is just a work like "economy" | |
| 13:54 | It's fine | |
| 13:54 | returns the results just fine | |
| 13:55 | If I search "state economy" it'll timeout after a while | |
| 13:55 | oleonard | TimothyAlexis, you could file a bug for the markup corrections and submit two patches on it: one for indentation and another for markup |
| 13:55 | rramalho | koha 18.05.02.000 |
| 13:59 | lari | tcohen: good work with the api exception handling. do you know if it's possible to pass the exception into a hook by itself, maybe before render |
| 13:59 | if so we wouldnt have to write anything in the controllers | |
| 13:59 | rramalho | Can anyone help me? |
| 14:00 | oleonard | rramalho do you manage the server Koha is installed on? |
| 14:00 | rramalho | yeah |
| 14:00 | cait1 | rramalho: i am sorry, I am not coming up with anything that could cause this |
| 14:00 | rramalho | It's our server |
| 14:00 | tcohen | lari we can explore that, I haven't. I felt comfortable with devs explicitly writing there might be unhandled exceptions |
| 14:01 | lari | It's good like this, just a thought |
| 14:02 | oleonard | rramalho has anything changed recently? Hardware change, Koha upgrade? |
| 14:02 | rramalho | nop |
| 14:03 | the database server only had package updates | |
| 14:03 | and the koha server itself had an uptime of 200 days | |
| 14:03 | I've just restarted all services and after the problem persisted, I've rebooted | |
| 14:04 | http://catalogo.cm-oeiras.pt/ | |
| 14:04 | Same thing happens on the intranet/Backoffice | |
| 14:04 | tcohen | lari I'm open to discuss any ideas you might have |
| 14:04 | just pm | |
| 14:04 | TimothyAlexis | oleonard, Thank you for the guidance. I wish you superb health, well-being and happily memorable times ahead. :D |
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| 14:05 | oleonard | TimothyAlexis thank you for modifying "memorable" with "happily" :D |
| 14:06 | TimothyAlexis | oleonard :D |
| 14:06 | oleonard | rramalho For what it's worth, my search in your OPAC for "state economy" returned results very quickly |
| 14:07 | rramalho | now try to open any link |
| 14:07 | It won't open until a very big timeout | |
| 14:08 | oleonard | rramalho it works very quickly for me |
| 14:09 | rramalho | ok |
| 14:09 | very wierdly, it's something that only happens inside our network | |
| 14:09 | thanks | |
| 14:10 | I'm sorry for your time | |
| 14:10 | so very sorry | |
| 14:10 | oleonard | Not at all rramalho, I'm happy to help |
| 14:15 | eythian | when seeing things that happen within a network only, the first thing I'd look to is if there's weird local DNS stuff happening (for example, one DNS server not responding - though you'd possibly see that across multiple URLs, depending) or a proxy in the way. |
| 14:16 | oleonard | git blame is bullying me today |
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| 14:44 | rramalho | It was happening to all clients connected via VPN |
| 14:44 | no one ever noticed this, because almost no one was working from home | |
| 14:45 | now that almost everyone is working from home | |
| 14:45 | wierd stuff on the firewall | |
| 14:55 | cait1 | rramalho: glad you figured it out, such things can be tricky |
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| 14:59 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:08 | tcohen | back from power outage! |
| 17:33 | caroline | @wunder montreal |
| 17:33 | huginn | caroline: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. |
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| 17:57 | philor_ | hmm, why aren't you broken http://git.koha-community.org/[…]56b1;hb=HEAD#l347 ? |
| 17:58 | did JSON.stringify already do what encodeURIComponent does and encodeURI does not? | |
| 18:25 | oleonard | Hey y'all what is this about? {UNKNOWN}: Can't open /var/log/koha/kohadev/opac-error.log (Permission denied) at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Appender/File.pm line 143. at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Patron.pm line 345 |
| 18:25 | Never seen that before | |
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| 19:16 | oleonard | Thanks lukeG1 ! |
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| 20:14 | * cait | waves |
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