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| 01:00 | tuxayo | caroline: there: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]0-04-22#i_2239393 |
| 01:01 | And there: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]0-04-22#i_2239111 | |
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| 03:04 | philor | when https://koha-community.org/man[…]record-management claims that choosing a framework on import is helpful for having the right bib level item type selected, what does it mean? |
| 03:11 | * philor | suspects it means "bet you wish this was true" or perhaps "once upon a time this was true" |
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| 03:47 | tuxayo | philor: works for me :P |
| 03:47 | (retrying with another framework) | |
| 03:49 | To see the logs you can run "koha-plack-err" as root. | |
| 03:49 | Work on koha-testing-docker and maybe KohaDevBox | |
| 03:52 | Does actually work! It's just that I elected the same framework as the imported record... | |
| 03:53 | philor | works in what sense? you're seeing a itemtype being inserted in biblioitems? where does that itemtype come from? |
| 03:55 | tuxayo | > works in what sense? you're seeing a itemtype being inserted in biblioitems? |
| 03:55 | I only checked on record level. | |
| 03:55 | > where does that itemtype come from? | |
| 03:55 | I'll try to interpret the MARCXML of my imported record | |
| 03:57 | philor | my question is further back than that: you select to import using the VR framework, to set the bib level item type to VM, but what part of the framework definition says that records imported into it should get the VM itemtype? |
| 03:57 | tuxayo | Sorry, I don't know MARC ^^" |
| 03:57 | Here is the record: | |
| 03:57 | https://copycat.drycat.fr/?0a1[…]bCy3BtmMWoBq5dj4Q | |
| 03:58 | philor | certainly, by experiment, not the only part that it could be, setting 942 to mandatory, setting subfield c to mandatory, and setting its default to VM |
| 03:58 | tuxayo | I missed what is VM. |
| 03:58 | and VR | |
| 03:58 | philor | so yeah, that has a 942 $c set to BK, where did it get that? |
| 03:59 | tuxayo | Z3950 from library of congress |
| 04:00 | philor | well, their record did not have a 942 $cBK, if it did they wouldn't also be claiming to use Dewey rather than LC classification |
| 04:02 | tuxayo | > well, their record did not have a 942 $cBK |
| 04:02 | It did, the link is the file that I imported | |
| 04:04 | philor | https://lccn.loc.gov/ltf91050458/marcxml |
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| 05:29 | tuxayo | philor: thanks, so no relevant diff between 1) at the LOC 2) in koha after Z39.50 import and MARCXML export |
| 05:29 | 3) in koha after "file import" IIUC | |
| 05:30 | Is that good? (I unsuspectingly went well too far into librarian territory) | |
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| 05:36 | philor | tuxayo: if the manual was telling the truth, then when you import a file which does not have a field 942 with a subfield c containing BK, and you select the Books, etc. framework, after import it would have a 942 $c |
| 05:37 | so if there's no diff, then the manual either lies, or completely fails to mention the secret to making something which would be extremely useful work | |
| 05:41 | tuxayo | So the manual say that Koha on import can define a missing 942$c. And it doesn't. |
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| 05:53 | philor | it says that choosing a framework is "helpful for running reports and having the right bib level item type selected on import." |
| 05:54 | the former is true, you can use frameworkcode in a report, the latter is the whole of my question | |
| 05:54 | there's no place in the UI for defining a framework to put that framework's default itemtype | |
| 05:54 | bib level itemtypes are stored in biblioitems.itemtype | |
| 05:55 | they get there when a record is saved, by parsing out the contents of 942 $c | |
| 05:56 | you could, hypothetically, stick a value in there while creating a bilioitems record, without touching the marc data, though that would be insane, and I see no sign of that being done | |
| 05:56 | and if in your framework you mark 942 as mandatory, subfield c as mandatory, and the default data for subfield c as BK, when you import a record with that framework it has no 942, no c, no BK | |
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| 06:02 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:05 | philor | marcelr: hello, is it morning already? |
| 06:09 | ah, it is, just an early part of it | |
| 06:12 | tuxayo | thanks philor for the clarifications. I still piece by piece, i'll understand more Koha. |
| 06:12 | o/ marcelr | |
| 06:14 | > marcelr: hello, is it morning already? | |
| 06:14 | Ho your are right, it's morning already >_< | |
| 06:14 | I should be in sync with marcelr since I'm in france, not with philor (from NZ or AU I guess?) . | |
| 06:15 | At least not always, It's good switch timezones to get to know everyone :D | |
| 06:16 | philor | US west coast, so I count on Europe getting up and greeting the world at 8am as a sign that it's midnight and I should give up for the day |
| 06:21 | tuxayo | Indeed |
| 06:21 | Actually due to summer time, it's 8:21 in FR, NL, UK | |
| 06:23 | Does anyone know how feasible it would be for one of our bots to be able from one command, list to the current times in at least 4 or 5 places? | |
| 06:23 | !time | |
| 06:23 | AnnaBoten | Error: "time" is not a valid command. |
| 06:23 | tuxayo | @time |
| 06:23 | huginn | tuxayo: downloading the Perl source |
| 06:23 | tuxayo | whaaaaaaat |
| 06:23 | @time | |
| 06:23 | huginn | tuxayo: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 06:23 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 06:24 | tuxayo | okay |
| 06:26 | See you later #koha o/ | |
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| 06:31 | marcelr | hi philor tuxayo |
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| 06:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:33 | * cait | waves |
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| 06:47 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:47 | wahanui | what's up, alex_a |
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| 07:12 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 07:45 | eythian | hi |
| 07:45 | wahanui | que tal, eythian |
| 07:52 | ashimema[m] | bug 25245 |
| 07:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25245 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a plugin hook to allow running code on a nightly basis |
| 07:53 | ashimema[m] | @seen nlegrand |
| 07:53 | huginn | ashimema[m]: nlegrand was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 46 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <nlegrand> gut morgn |
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| 08:12 | nlegrand | a gut yor |
| 08:12 | ashimema[m] | as if by magic |
| 08:14 | I was wondering about your desks bug tree nlegrand | |
| 08:14 | whether you're likely to get back to it in the next few days or whether it should be a 20.11 target | |
| 08:14 | right now you can define desks but not do anything with them.. which feels wrong | |
| 08:16 | nlegrand | right |
| 08:17 | I have some reports to do and then I will be able to concentrate a bit on it. | |
| 08:18 | maybe something can be ready monday | |
| 08:22 | Joubu | Anyone using kohadevbox here? |
| 08:24 | ashimema[m] | thanks nlegrand |
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| 08:32 | nlegrand | ashimema[m]: to make the desk choice on the change library page, I think I need a sort of js that update the desk list according to the library. Is this kind of behaviour already existing in Koha? Is there a good way to do it? I'm asking because some are picky about js. |
| 08:35 | ashimema[m] | Indeed, it'll need some JS |
| 08:35 | nlegrand | ashimema[m]: by the way, thank you a lot for your enthousiasm and help about all thoses patches. |
| 08:36 | ashimema[m] | as for prior art.. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm sure there must be an example somewhere |
| 08:36 | no worries at all | |
| 08:36 | Joubu can you think of an example for the above? | |
| 08:37 | form field select box whose content is dependant on the selection of a precedding select box selection? | |
| 08:38 | nlegrand | josef_moravec: thanks a lot too for all your work on Bug 24201 and Bug 2441 |
| 08:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24201 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Failed QA , Attach desk to intranet session |
| 08:38 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2441 normal, P3, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, receiving more than 1 item | |
| 08:40 | josef_moravec | nlegrand: not at all ;) |
| 08:40 | ashimema[m] | :) |
| 08:40 | teamwork.. we've got some great people | |
| 08:41 | as ever.. I really hope we can carry the current moment through into the next cycle.. allot of things get left too late in a cycle to really achieve :( | |
| 08:50 | Joubu | query nlegrand Salut Nicolas |
| 08:50 | ... | |
| 08:52 | nlegrand | :) |
| 08:59 | josef_moravec | nlegrand: I would generate a select box for each library desks and they would be hidden. And then in javascript add hander for onchange to libraries select box, the handler simply hide the shown desks select if there is any visible and shows the right one - based on library code for example |
| 09:02 | nlegrand | josef_moravec: nice idea |
| 09:04 | josef_moravec | nlegrand: hope so, don't forget to handle it right in pl script. I think the form does send the other select too, even if they are hidden |
| 09:04 | but that should not be big deal | |
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| 09:13 | Joubu | yes, disabled="disabled" to not send them |
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| 10:38 | ashimema[m] | davidnind++ |
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| 11:12 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:12 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:18 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 11:19 | huh, i was sure i had seen a bug about waiting holds messing with the decreaseLoanHighHolds settings, but now i can't find it. did i dream up a koha bug again? | |
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| 11:32 | kohaputti | Joubu, I'm thinking it is worth documenting the circulation rule database schema change in the tech notes |
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| 11:39 | magnuse | document all the things! |
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| 11:44 | Joubu | kohaputti: yes! |
| 11:44 | we should at least say that the previous table does no longer exist | |
| 11:45 | kohaputti | Joubu, wrote something there now... Maybe you can rewrite the text more nicely |
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| 11:51 | davidnind | Kohathon2020 starting in about 10mins - see http://koha-us.org/kohathon-2020/ for the schedule and live stream link |
| 11:57 | * ashimema[m] | has the tab open and waiting :) |
| 12:04 | * oleonard | remembers that biblios.net existed and that it was a good idea https://web.archive.org/web/20[…]//biblios.net/how |
| 12:04 | oleonard | Sacrificed to the ideals of profit :( |
| 12:06 | cait1 | :( |
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| 12:43 | tcohen | anyone seen this: start-stop-daemon: matching only on non-root pidfile /var/run/koha/kohadev/plack.pid is insecure |
| 12:43 | [....] Starting Plack daemon for kohadev:Pid_file already exists for running process (757)... aborting | |
| 12:43 | . ok | |
| 12:43 | in buster | |
| 12:45 | ashimema[m] | ooh, never seen that |
| 12:46 | tcohen | I cannot start plack on KOHA_IMAGE=master-buster |
| 12:48 | ashimema[m] | are we still recommending kohadevbox strongly> |
| 12:49 | whats the windows experience like for koha-testing-docker? | |
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| 12:49 | oleonard | Hi lisettelatah! |
| 12:49 | ashimema[m] | I'm just wondering about the challenges of maintaining both.. I've been recomending docker more of late simply because I'm more familiar with how it works and how to help others using it. |
| 12:49 | oleonard | Smile everyone you're on the live stream |
| 12:49 | lisettelatah | hi oleonard |
| 12:49 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 12:50 | ashimema[m] | Hi lisettelatah |
| 12:50 | oleonard | :D |
| 12:51 | ashimema | we will always try to help :) |
| 12:51 | kohaputti | hi |
| 12:51 | wahanui | hi, kohaputti |
| 12:51 | ashimema | and cats.. and cake recipes ;) |
| 12:51 | oleonard | ashimema I agree, I think we should be suggesting koha-testing-docker these days. |
| 12:52 | The main issue with koha-testing-docker on Windows is that you can't run it and Virtualbox at the same time | |
| 12:52 | ...which is only an issue if you use Virtualbox for something besides Koha | |
| 12:52 | ashimema | Interesting |
| 12:53 | oleonard | There's a system-level service which has to run or not run depending on which you're using, requires a restart to turn on and off |
| 12:53 | davidnind | last time I tried I couldn't get it working on Windows (should try again), koha-testing-docker works brilliantly on my linux desktop |
| 12:54 | oleonard | davidnind I also had problems getting docker working on Windows a while ago but it seems to be better now |
| 12:54 | ashimema | yeah.. I pretty much only use linux these days.. have to borrower the daughters laptop if I want to play with windows. |
| 12:54 | but I'm totally aware it's not the case for most others out there | |
| 12:56 | * oleonard | threatens to demote "regulars" off the irc regulars page if they're not regular enough |
| 12:56 | ashimema | hehe |
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| 12:56 | ashimema | there are certainly a few less than regulars listed there |
| 12:57 | oleonard | There should be a section of super-regulars labeled, "If you don't see them in IRC please check on them in real life to make sure they're okay" |
| 12:57 | ashimema | haha.. |
| 12:58 | agreed.. I have a few in mind like that.. | |
| 13:04 | magnuse | lulz |
| 13:04 | * magnuse | thought we were already recommending the docker thingy |
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| 13:04 | * magnuse | still uses kohadevbox, though |
| 13:05 | cait1 | dito :) |
| 13:05 | oleonard: not sure who you are talking about! | |
| 13:05 | but if Iever fall in the shower or something... it might be helfpul | |
| 13:05 | oleonard | :D |
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| 13:07 | ashimema | always love it to here "koha is the most used ils in the world" |
| 13:08 | cait1 | is it possible mailing lists are down again? noticing some bug mails i haven't got yet |
| 13:08 | oleonard | ashimema: It's the closest to world domination any of us will ever get, and I'll take it! |
| 13:08 | cait1 | https://lists.koha-community.o[…]/mailman/listinfo |
| 13:08 | magnuse | oleonard: very cool point! |
| 13:09 | cait1 | oleonard++ :) |
| 13:09 | magnuse | @quote add oleonard: [Koha is] the closest to world domination any of us will ever get, and I'll take it! |
| 13:09 | huginn | magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 13:09 | cait1 | jajm: around? or alex_a? |
| 13:10 | magnuse | @quote add oleonard: [Koha is] the closest to world domination any of us will ever get, and I'll take it! |
| 13:10 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. Quote #338 added. |
| 13:10 | jajm | cait1, yes |
| 13:10 | ashimema | :) |
| 13:10 | magnuse | @quote get 337 |
| 13:10 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #337: "oleonard> Everything Koha lacks is something that no one has given to Koha." (added by magnuse at 01:50 PM, February 20, 2020) |
| 13:10 | cait1 | hi :) I was wondering if you coudl ping ldl? - https://lists.koha-community.o[…]/mailman/listinfo seems to have an issue |
| 13:11 | magnuse | @quote get 336 |
| 13:11 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #336: "josef_moravec: ... no problem, that's why we are team, nobody can notice everything by self ;)" (added by cait at 09:22 AM, March 07, 2019) |
| 13:11 | cait1 | oh - I don't remember that one :) |
| 13:11 | jajm: sorry to 'use' you, or trying to happy to see you as well :) | |
| 13:11 | magnuse | adding quotes in your sleep, cait1? |
| 13:12 | jajm | cait1, that's ok ;) i just told him |
| 13:12 | cait1 | thanks :) |
| 13:12 | jajm++ | |
| 13:12 | ashimema | I remember you adding that one |
| 13:15 | hmm.. did github just fall over | |
| 13:17 | lisettelatah | It looks like it. Nothing will load for me |
| 13:17 | ashimema | glad it's not just me |
| 13:18 | cait1 | sabotage... |
| 13:18 | the mailngl ist server, gitlab... | |
| 13:18 | or github | |
| 13:18 | oleonard | gitlab is still up! |
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| 13:39 | ashimema | github came back up long enough for me to grab the branch I wanted :) |
| 13:51 | Joubu | lisettelatah: regarding your kohadevbox problem, do you have something in the Koha log file? |
| 13:56 | lisettelatah | joubu, let me check |
| 14:07 | Joubu: In the intranet-error.log I get: [(date info)] [proxy:error] [pid 23660] [client 10.0.2.2:65076] AH00898: Error reading from remote server returned by /cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl, referer: http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl | |
| 14:09 | and [(date info)] [proxy_http:error] [pid 32660] (70007)The timeout specified has expired: [client 10.0.2.2:65076] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server | |
| 14:10 | kohaputti | ashimema, mute your mic, it is echoing |
| 14:11 | ashimema | thanks |
| 14:11 | though. it claims it's muted | |
| 14:11 | kohaputti | it is now |
| 14:11 | :) | |
| 14:11 | ashimema | hopefully better now |
| 14:12 | lisettelatah | github should be back up now |
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| 14:16 | Joubu | lisettelatah: something else in /var/log/koha/*/* ? |
| 14:16 | try `tail -f /var/log/koha/*/*` | |
| 14:17 | I am expecting something more meaningful in /var/log/koha/kohadev/plack-error.log | |
| 14:17 | then restart_all, and hit the mainpage | |
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| 14:24 | ashimema | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_20.11 |
| 14:24 | someone fancy putting that in the yourtube chat for me.. don't want to mess up my audio ;) | |
| 14:27 | Joubu | done |
| 14:27 | ashimema | thanks |
| 14:28 | cait1 | hm did we overlap? |
| 14:28 | idid too, but don't see yours JOnathan | |
| 14:28 | Joubu | I don't see yours :D |
| 14:28 | lisettelatah | I don't see either of yours |
| 14:28 | Joubu | lol |
| 14:29 | cait1 | lol |
| 14:29 | wonder if we are in a different timeline | |
| 14:29 | lisettelatah | I'll try from Koha-US, do you see that? |
| 14:29 | cait1 | yep |
| 14:29 | odd | |
| 14:29 | i was seen earlier i think | |
| 14:30 | lisettelatah | I wonder if there is a link permission for chat or something? |
| 14:31 | cait1 | ah, it came thropugh lol |
| 14:31 | i continually watched since yours lisettelatah, so not sure what changed | |
| 14:31 | maybe just youtube oddities | |
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| 14:38 | lisettelatah | Joubu: https://pastebin.com/yQtREZjb There is a ton of that and it is still running. |
| 14:41 | Joubu | lisettelatah: sudo apt install libemail-messageid-perl |
| 14:41 | there is a missing module | |
| 14:48 | caroline | kidclamp: I feel like a basic understanding of git is necessary... :/ |
| 14:48 | kidclamp | can you submit via gitlab directly now? |
| 14:49 | caroline | yes, but it's still git vocabulary (commit, merge-request, etc) |
| 14:49 | kidclamp | at least to submit a patch and say "this bit shoudl say this" |
| 14:49 | I'd rather over encourage though :-)) | |
| 14:49 | caroline | definitely :) you're a good salesperson :) |
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| 14:51 | lisettelatah | Joubu: That worked and then when I logged into the webinstaller I got this: Can't locate object method "phases" via package "CPAN::Meta::Prereqs" at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Installer/PerlModules.pm line 55 |
| 14:54 | Joubu | lisettelatah: sudo apt instal libcpan-meta-perl |
| 14:57 | lisettelatah | Joubu: That worked! |
| 14:58 | But then I got some update errors: [Thu Apr 23 14:57:44 2020] updatedatabase.pl: Use of uninitialized value $interface in concatenation (.) or string at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Languages.pm line 122. [Thu Apr 23 14:57:44 2020] updatedatabase.pl: Use of uninitialized value $theme in concatenation (.) or string at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Languages.pm line 122. | |
| 14:58 | Joubu | thos are warnings, you can ignore them |
| 14:59 | those* | |
| 15:04 | lisettelatah | perfect, thanks for your help |
| 15:04 | joubu++ | |
| 15:14 | cait1 | :) |
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| 15:22 | cait1 | could someone quote add what heather just said in kohathon chat? :) |
| 15:26 | Joubu | @quote add heather This embodies the whole spirit of the Koha Community--it's like you walk up and ask, "Can I play?" and everyone starts sharing the toys & it's full of laughter! |
| 15:26 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. Quote #339 added. |
| 15:30 | cait1 | thx! |
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| 15:36 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:54 | cait | wonder if someone would be able to have a look at fixing 23081 |
| 16:54 | oleonard | Aw, I missed RM chat |
| 16:55 | cait | Donna is just heavily demoing item search |
| 16:55 | and it turns out you can't look for 'has had no checkouts' | |
| 16:56 | bug 23081 | |
| 16:56 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23081 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Item search : Filter for Items with Zero Checkouts Returns No Results |
| 17:00 | cait | oleonard: looks like rangi slept through it too :) |
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| 17:01 | cait | oleonard: mail server has problems again, don't be disappointed at empty inbox |
| 17:02 | * oleonard | isn't very productive while listening to YouTube |
| 17:05 | caroline | same... |
| 17:06 | cait | not sure that was the indented effect - but same |
| 17:06 | oleonard | cait, rangi might have been afraid that if he showed up for the RM chat someone would ask him to be RM again |
| 17:07 | cait | who knows :) |
| 17:10 | oleonard | I wish we had batch a patron message management tool... batch delete messages, batch add messages... |
| 17:12 | caroline | ah, I lost the chat in my youtube tab,,, I was wondering if we could do batch edits of authority records with MarcEdit (re: my question from yesterday of switching a topic_term authority to a genre/form authority) |
| 17:13 | like export all the authority records, batch edit, reimport with right framework | |
| 17:14 | was in the wrong video, lol! | |
| 17:15 | oleonard | caroline I did the same! |
| 17:22 | cait | caroline: it might work if they match, but not sure |
| 17:22 | authority matching rules appear to be hard - there is some discusion on koha-de about it | |
| 17:23 | philor | reimporting the same records with the same control numbers ought to work |
| 17:24 | cait | philor: i wonder... as you are an authority expert |
| 17:24 | do you have a working matching rule for 035 by chance? | |
| 17:24 | philor | and be less tiresome than my method of creating a new personal name record and merging the topical to it |
| 17:24 | cait: I don't, sorry | |
| 17:24 | cait | was worth trying :) |
| 17:26 | philor | I'm an "expert" at cleaning up seven years of completely ignoring authority records, but I've only just started on import, and hadn't even thought about export->import |
| 17:26 | cait | philor: you are already a valueable resource :) |
| 17:26 | hm thinking about it... maybe topic expert authorities would be for you? | |
| 17:27 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_20.11 ) | |
| 17:28 | ashimema | I feel like we aught to help lissettelatah update her workflow to use koha-testing-docker.. or start maintaining kohadevbox again.. most of here issues reading back are to do with a lack of maint.. i.e. we've resolved them in koha-testing-docker |
| 17:29 | Or perhaps more of the ansible stuff could be shared between the two | |
| 17:29 | I'd love to be watching the kohathon still.. but family calls | |
| 17:30 | Hope your all still enjoying it.. ping me here if you want me at all 😀 | |
| 17:31 | tcohen | hi |
| 17:31 | philor | and if kohadevbox is abandoned, someone should probably go through all the docs that currently say it's the thing and don't mention koha-testing-docker at all |
| 17:31 | tcohen | finished servind family's lunch |
| 17:32 | what's failing with kohadevbox? | |
| 17:32 | oleonard | ashimema and tcohen, it was great to see you in the RM chat! |
| 17:33 | ashimema | A bunch of the dependancies we've added to the dockerfiles in koha-testing-docker |
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| 17:33 | ashimema | They're not listed in kohadevbox equivalent |
| 17:33 | Email messageid for example | |
| 17:34 | Its our workaround for the nightly packages not currently being built.. once I spot the issue, I check that it's in hand with mason than I manually add them to our dockerfiles to get Jenkins happy | |
| 17:36 | tcohen | we can solve that right now |
| 17:51 | ashimema | By the same workaround of adding them into kohadevbox setup scripts.. or did you mean fixing the nightly builds |
| 18:15 | oleonard | Bug 25244 has me thinking about the checkboxes in OPAC search results... |
| 18:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25244 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Accessibility: Checkboxes on the search results page do not contain specific aria labels |
| 18:15 | oleonard | What if we got rid of the column? |
| 18:15 | https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15876657007590 | |
| 18:25 | caroline | hm... I don't know I feel like checkboxes are always on the top left (not just in Koha, but everywhere)? |
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| 18:26 | * oleonard | is innovating ;) |
| 18:27 | caroline | Just wondering if patrons will be confused... Like when the "Save" button was suddenly switched to the top of the form rather than the bottom |
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| 18:38 | ashimema | Lol.. your beating me to those bugs |
| 18:38 | Awesome.. I really didn't mean to add them to your list | |
| 18:38 | Beers owed | |
| 18:40 | oleonard | It's good to get a kick in the pants about accessibility |
| 18:40 | It occurred to me that having a screen reader read off the label for the checkbox *before* it read the rest of the information about the title might not be helpful | |
| 18:43 | I dunno if that's true, of course! | |
| 19:24 | * tuxayo | searches what does "kick in the pants" means |
| 19:25 | tuxayo | Okay, that's the metaphor I guessed ^^ |
| 19:25 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kick_in_the_pants | |
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| 20:00 | rangi | damnit i slept through kohathon |
| 20:21 | ashimema | morning rangi |
| 20:28 | rangi | morning ashimema |
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| 21:03 | bag | rangi: we are just starting the third part - if you wanted to join that |
| 21:04 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0DXD2K0_8 | |
| 21:05 | rangi | thanks bag |
| 21:06 | bag | it’s been pretty good so far - and you didn’t miss that much this morning during the campfire chat. I don’t think you would have said anything different - the overall theme was encouragement |
| 21:08 | cait | :) |
| 21:08 | rangi | :) |
| 21:11 | caroline | cait, did you see the onesie? |
| 21:13 | cait | no? |
| 21:13 | wahanui | i think no is that a thing? I was just thinking about how I like all kinds of chips and now I find out that there is a licorice flavor! |
| 21:13 | cait | where? |
| 21:13 | caroline | jzairo put a picture of her baby with the "Future Koha developer" onesie |
| 21:13 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]&feature=youtu.be | |
| 21:14 | cait | ooh |
| 21:15 | hayley | cuute |
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| 21:38 | ashimema | Aww.. Millie's onesie is in a memories box waiting to come out in her 18th birthday 😀 |
| 21:40 | cait | :) |
| 21:47 | oleonard | bag: I liked seeing y'all together in the RM chat |
| 21:47 | did anyone call jcamins XD ? | |
| 21:49 | bag | huh I wonder what he’s up to :) |
| 21:59 | oleonard | Probably sulking because we killed queryparser ;) |
| 22:00 | * tcohen | hates tests about dates math |
| 22:00 | cait | hates dates |
| 22:16 | philor | there was a time when you could only get some of the Firefox date tests to pass by setting your timezone to match Mountain View, CA |
| 22:17 | tuxayo | 😱 |
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| 22:24 | tuxayo | wow kohathon is so cool, I'll try follow now and catchup on the rest |
| 22:34 | inlibro joined #koha | |
| 22:58 | tuxayo | Good thing the KohaDevBox setup demo was recorded. Since a new dependency of Koha on master could break any live demo ^^" |
| 23:03 | bag | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSXL6aYCeRs |
| 23:05 | rangi | ta bag |
| 23:07 | tuxayo | bag++ |
| 23:14 | bag | this stream is going pretty strongly now - yay!! |
| 23:15 | cait | koha_us++ :) |
| 23:15 | it's great to see the online events | |
| 23:15 | still finding ways to bring the community together :) | |
| 23:18 | rangi | yep :) |
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| 23:39 | tuxayo | I forgot which status should I set on a bug when after applying a test plan, I don't get the expected result. |
| 23:40 | (and I'm confident about having well followed the test plan) | |
| 23:40 | Failed QA? | |
| 23:40 | bag | Failed QA works |
| 23:41 | tuxayo | thanks :) |
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