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| 06:32 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:33 | marcelr | hi calire |
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| 07:23 | Abhishek | Hi |
| 07:23 | is there a way to rename the catalog form field names and rearrange in order required using MARC structure | |
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| 07:30 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:30 | its winter or what ? its freezing ;) | |
| 07:31 | and soon Frozen II | |
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| 07:59 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 07:59 | wahanui | bidet, alex_a |
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| 08:25 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 08:25 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 08:25 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #56: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U18/56/ |
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| 08:28 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #57: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D9/57/ |
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| 08:38 | ashimema | @later tell wizzyrea Hmm, I'm not sure about translation sizes to be honest. looks like the build is around the 800mb mark (for the whole set) each time at the moment and I'm not sure we've added many translations of late so that's probably a fairly good estimate.. It's an rsync so should be replacing the existing files with updated one's right... so.. I'd say for each koha version which we still provide the manual for you're looking at around an |
| 08:38 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:38 | ashimema | 800mb requirement for the html docs.. |
| 08:38 | @later tell wizzyrea.. ooh.. I forgot we also host ePubs.. i've not build those yet.. will run a local build of those to get the numbers | |
| 08:38 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:40 | ashimema | @later tell wizzyrea perhaps we aught to start archiving the unsupported koha version manuals a little more.. I'd be interested in the stats for how often the koha 3.0 manual is looked at these days.. we've got manuals for every versino since then available on the site.. maybe providing those as a downloadable zip might save us some space? |
| 08:40 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 09:05 | davidnind | @later tell caroline_catlady Thanks for chairing the documentation meeting. (Slept through my alarm :-() |
| 09:05 | huginn | davidnind: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:07 | davidnind | @later tell caroline_catlady Created an issue for Git workflow and branching, would welcome some input on the 'correct' way to do this https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]-manual/issues/16 |
| 09:07 | huginn | davidnind: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:08 | davidnind | caroline_catlady++ |
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| 09:27 | sev_q | Good morning Koha ! |
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| 09:31 | ashimema | mornin' #koha |
| 09:31 | hi davidnind.. isn't it rather late for you there? | |
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| 09:33 | ashimema | my biggest advice take away on the speel I just wrote on issue 16 is to split the work.. if you can delegate some of the branch maintanence out that will ease the effort allot |
| 09:33 | my biggest advice take away on the speel I just wrote on issue 16 is to split the work.. if you can delegate some of the branch maintanence out that will ease the effort allot | |
| 09:34 | davidnind | ashimema: only about 10:30pm |
| 09:35 | ashimema: apologies for missing the documentation meeting, looks like lots of really useful discussions... | |
| 09:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #57: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U18/57/ |
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| 09:38 | ashimema | no worries at all.. it's a terrible time for you that slot |
| 09:39 | hopefully a much better one for the next meeting again | |
| 09:39 | there really is not perfect time for you guys and us to meet.. but I tihnk the late slot tends to be a little better really | |
| 09:40 | davidnind | ashimema: thanks for the comments on issue 16, glad I was on the right track (I also wrote it before I read the documentation meeting minutes!) |
| 09:40 | ashimema | still we now have working manuals in all langauge for 19.05 and 19.11.. that's really nice to see.. that task has been on my list for months :) |
| 09:41 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #56: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D8/56/ |
| 09:41 | davidnind | ashimema++ |
| 09:42 | Joubu | I post a comment as well on https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]-manual/issues/13 |
| 09:42 | davidnind | thanks for all the work between you all for sorting this out! |
| 09:42 | thanks Joubu! | |
| 09:42 | Joubu | maybe it belongs to the other issue actually. The workflow is quite clear in my head, but it really depends on what the doc team wants |
| 09:44 | davidnind | I don't like the merge commits showing myself, it makes the git history look really messy (in my view) |
| 09:45 | ashimema: just going through the changes to the manual in the last day to make sure that they are all all in 19.05 (will let all the current running pipelines finish before I do any more...) | |
| 09:47 | ashimema | thanks davidnind.. I was about to ask if you had that in hand :) |
| 09:47 | sounds like you do | |
| 09:48 | agreed. lets kill merge commits.. I think it's just historical it was setup that way.. | |
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| 09:48 | Joubu | it's the default value on gitlab |
| 09:49 | ashimema | it's the `instant` side of translations I really struggled to wrap my head aroud Joubu.. you're brains there will be very helpful.. as for the monthly update of translations to correspond roughly with release for the maintanence branches.. I think that's great and is also what I wanted to suggest. |
| 09:51 | So.. gitlab-ci wise I think my next target is to run a slightly different version of the build command depending on what's been pushed.. if /locales hasn't been touched I think we should only rebuild the en version of the manual.. | |
| 09:51 | that should make the build significantly lighter | |
| 09:52 | Joubu | yes, but then they won't be in sync |
| 09:52 | ashimema | the public runner of gitlab are capped by the number of cpu minutes.. so if we can reduce that we could possibly turn back on the public running of jobs so we know if failures are going to happen before the merge rather than after. |
| 09:53 | how does it work when the po's aren't in sync already? | |
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| 09:53 | ashimema | ok.. there's my confusion.. how are the po's generated in the first place.. |
| 09:56 | Joubu | po's are coming from pootle, added to the repo manually |
| 09:57 | ashimema: the problem is not the po's. You will have "en" with paragraphs/changes that do not appear in the translated versions. | |
| 10:00 | ashimema | indeed |
| 10:00 | so when we build a manual.. if the paragraph isn't found in a po.. then the translation just uses the english right | |
| 10:03 | that's why we rebuild all languages every time.. | |
| 10:08 | i see | |
| 10:08 | i see | |
| 10:08 | ashimema_ | grr |
| 10:08 | back to irccloud again I go | |
| 10:08 | right.. new task for today.. drop using matrix.org | |
| 10:09 | ashimema | i see |
| 10:09 | I'd like to automate the process such that whenever stuff is pushed to a branch in gitlab, it triggers a push to translate.koha-community.org such that the new strings to be translated are available for immediate translation | |
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| 11:39 | ashimema_ | no cait today? |
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| 11:46 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 11:46 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 11:46 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #59: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U18/59/ |
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| 12:24 | eythian | hi |
| 12:26 | ashimema_: calire is also in /away, perhaps it's a German thing. | |
| 12:26 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 12:27 | * eythian | leaves that factoid there to confuse future people. |
| 12:28 | calire | cait has holiday |
| 12:28 | I was on lunch ;) | |
| 12:30 | eythian | ah, fair enough then :) |
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| 12:36 | fridolin | ashimema ashimema_ hi, can you have a look at Bug 23822 |
| 12:36 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23822 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Regression: As of 19.05.04 deletion of patrons with outstanding credits is silently blocked |
| 12:36 | fridolin | i create a followup if you wahnt |
| 12:37 | of Joubu ^ | |
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| 13:19 | fridolin | wahanui: i'm i online ? |
| 13:19 | wahanui | fridolin: no idea |
| 13:19 | fridolin | oki thanks |
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| 14:53 | fridolin | Joubu: Bug 23822 i think it needs a FU |
| 14:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23822 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Regression: As of 19.05.04 deletion of patrons with outstanding credits is silently blocked |
| 14:53 | corilynn | FU? |
| 14:56 | fridolin | follow-up ^^ |
| 14:56 | corilynn | ah |
| 14:58 | does anyone know a quick / easy way to update the colors in Koha, I got 17 instances I need to tell apart easier | |
| 14:59 | kidclamp | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DqauN8PV/ |
| 14:59 | in the userjs | |
| 14:59 | or you can put it in usercss | |
| 14:59 | corilynn | excellent, knew you'd know |
| 15:00 | kidclamp, that's not in the interface somewhere? | |
| 15:01 | kidclamp | it's in the sysprefs, intranetuserjs or opacuserjs |
| 15:01 | corilynn | so, no? |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | you could put just body { background: MediumSeaGreen; } in the opacusercss |
| 15:04 | or intranetusercss I guess you'd rather | |
| 15:05 | corilynn | pretend I'm not understanding... where are these files? |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | Administration -> System Preferences, search for intranetusercss |
| 15:05 | click the little blue "edit" link | |
| 15:05 | paste that wee snippet in there | |
| 15:05 | body { background: MediumSeaGreen; } | |
| 15:06 | click save | |
| 15:06 | :D | |
| 15:06 | corilynn | wizzyrea++ |
| 15:07 | sometimes i feel like it's another world out there | |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 15:08 | of course you can pick any color named or hex - you'd just put it in over MediumSeaGreen | |
| 15:08 | corilynn | word |
| 15:08 | * wizzyrea | doesn't know how much you need to know so just dumps all of the info |
| 15:09 | corilynn | happy to get the full dump |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | ashimema, I think those older ones aren't the big ones - they're quite small. It'll really start becoming a "problem" when we have 20 archived versions the size of the ones we're doing now |
| 15:11 | but not really bc we'll compress them | |
| 15:11 | or do something else | |
| 15:11 | but it does bring up - those manuals are rather historical-ish documents now | |
| 15:11 | and we should find a place to archive them that is safe | |
| 15:13 | ashimema_ | agreed |
| 15:13 | yeah.. the current old crop arent huge.. it was more a plan for the future thing | |
| 15:20 | corilynn | well, it might drive everyone nuts with my colors, but they don't have to administer 17 seperate instances! |
| 15:21 | ashimema_, I did some wrangling last night ... I set a few to "RESOLVED" and "WORKSFORME" I think some were fixed by accident | |
| 15:22 | ashimema_ | :) |
| 15:22 | awesome | |
| 15:22 | corilynn | that's the right combo then? |
| 15:22 | ashimema_ | :) |
| 15:22 | yup | |
| 15:22 | corilynn | kewl |
| 15:22 | ashimema_ | as a different answer to your question above |
| 15:22 | corilynn | it's easy to do at the ref desk |
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| 15:23 | ashimema_ | you could use something like the stylebot extension for chrome- https://chrome.google.com/webs[…]jpgmdaleoha?hl=en |
| 15:23 | so.. at a per URL level you could apply those css snippets.. but have it only apply in your browser.. that way YOU can spot the difference really quickly.. but your not changing it for the customers. | |
| 15:23 | corilynn | well, the URL changes everyday... |
| 15:24 | I'm hosting these babies on AWS | |
| 15:24 | they shutdown at 9pm every night and start up when the user needs them | |
| 15:24 | my "customers" are catalogers for other libraries and publishers | |
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| 15:48 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 16:10 | wizzyrea | hi oleonard |
| 16:10 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 16:15 | oleonard | rsync is bad and should feel bad |
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| 16:37 | * cait | waves |
| 16:37 | oleonard | Hi cait |
| 16:39 | tcohen | hi #koha |
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| 18:31 | oleonard | @quote get 123 |
| 18:31 | huginn | oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 18:31 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 18:47 | reiveune | bye |
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| 19:16 | tuxayo[m] | !bang |
| 19:16 | AnnaBoten | There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command |
| 19:16 | tuxayo[m] | !start |
| 19:16 | AnnaBoten | The hunt starts now! |
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| 19:26 | AnnaBoten | \_o< quack! |
| 19:26 | wahanui | !bang |
| 19:27 | oleonard | The robots are taking over just as predicted |
| 19:29 | * tuxayo[m] | sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]NrKYdfXFOYonMBzGk > |
| 19:32 | tuxayo[m] | Ho it was too long, short version: |
| 19:32 | 🤖🤖🤖🤖 | |
| 19:32 | 🤖🤖🤖🤖 | |
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| 20:09 | ashimema | !bang |
| 20:09 | AnnaBoten | \_x< ashimema: 1 (2554.87 seconds) |
| 20:12 | \_o< quack! | |
| 20:12 | wahanui | oops, slipped over |
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| 20:34 | ashimema_ | !bang |
| 20:34 | AnnaBoten | \_x< ashimema_: 1 (1311.80 seconds) |
| 20:38 | \_o< quack! | |
| 20:38 | wahanui | *click* |
| 20:45 | ashimema | !bang |
| 20:45 | AnnaBoten | \_x< ashimema: 2 (457.87 seconds) |
| 20:45 | [('ashimema', 2), ('ashimema_', 1)] | |
| 20:45 | Best time: ashimema with 457.87 seconds | |
| 20:55 | \_o< quack! | |
| 20:55 | wahanui | oops, slipped over |
| 21:07 | ashimema | !bang |
| 21:07 | AnnaBoten | \_x< ashimema: 1 (720.90 seconds) |
| 21:15 | \_o< quack! | |
| 21:15 | wahanui | !bang |
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| 21:28 | ashimema | !bang |
| 21:28 | AnnaBoten | \_x< ashimema: 2 (809.02 seconds) |
| 21:35 | \_o< quack! | |
| 21:35 | wahanui | oops, slipped over |
| 21:35 | marieluce | !bang |
| 21:35 | AnnaBoten | \_x< marieluce: 1 (18.77 seconds) |
| 21:35 | [('ashimema', 2), ('marieluce', 1)] | |
| 21:35 | Best time: marieluce with 18.77 seconds | |
| 21:39 | \_o< quack! | |
| 21:39 | wahanui | *click* |
| 21:50 | ashimema | !bang |
| 21:50 | AnnaBoten | \_x< ashimema: 1 (700.83 seconds) |
| 22:00 | \_o< quack! | |
| 22:00 | wahanui | !bang |
| 22:20 | marieluce | !bang |
| 22:20 | AnnaBoten | marieluce, you missed the duck! |
| 22:22 | eythian | https://phys.org/news/2019-11-[…]of-old-books.html |
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| 22:56 | marieluce | Have a lovely weekend all! |
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