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| 05:37 | fridolin | yolo |
| 05:38 | cait | fridolin: there is a mailing list mail about issue with elasticsearch and UNIMARC - [Koha] koha-elasticsearch --rebuild errors - do you know if this might be a bug? |
| 05:39 | fridolin | i'll look |
| 05:45 | answered | |
| 05:45 | amybe ICU missing | |
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| 05:54 | cait | fridolin++ thx! |
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| 06:32 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:40 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:56 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:56 | wahanui | bonjour, alex_a |
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| 07:16 | kohaputti | cait, hi! I'm pinging you about the hackathon as you asked. |
| 07:17 | cait | i promised something |
| 07:17 | and I forgot what it was :( | |
| 07:17 | what did I promise? | |
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| 07:25 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20780: (follow-up) Use Koha::Object <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]81e58ae2c525a74b3> |
| 07:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 21580: Pass buyer_ean to create_edi_order <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65a6825b714ae61b6> | |
| 07:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 21580: Add test for message buyer_ean method <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a121661a2e545297f> | |
| 07:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 20780: Add handling for AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenRecieved in EDI <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]836dbdb0c410d6362> | |
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| 07:31 | kohaputti | <cait> kohaputti: if you need something for the first time contributors (sign offs + QA) ping me during this week please |
| 07:32 | cait, and you said something about putting it to your calendar :-) | |
| 07:32 | that's 22.10.2019 | |
| 07:35 | cait | aha! |
| 07:35 | yes, I wanted to help make the first contrib patches go in fast :) | |
| 07:35 | remember now | |
| 07:39 | kohaputti: added to calendar | |
| 07:39 | kohaputti | cool! |
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| 12:07 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:20 | Was hoping docker would magically work this morning... no luck | |
| 12:21 | cait | :( |
| 12:22 | ashimema | still having issue oleonard.. |
| 12:22 | what's up with it? | |
| 12:23 | oleonard | http://paste.koha-community.org/2730 |
| 12:23 | koha container fails | |
| 12:23 | ashimema | oh.. wierd |
| 12:24 | assume you're using SYNC_REPO | |
| 12:24 | oleonard | Yes |
| 12:24 | ashimema | have you checked the permissions on .git/config? |
| 12:25 | other wonder is if you're using a newer git outside the container.. and perhaps the config files are incompatible.. | |
| 12:25 | though i've never seen that issue | |
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| 12:28 | oleonard | I don't have an especially new version of git installed... Last update on Windows was two months ago. |
| 12:29 | The problem started yesterday when I was trying to enable case sensitivity on my Koha repo. After running into this problem I restored the previous version of that directory but the problem persists. | |
| 12:30 | * ashimema | just looked at his own .git/config |
| 12:31 | ashimema | 'tis huge.. |
| 12:31 | I take it git is still working as expected outside the docker? | |
| 12:31 | oleonard | I've tried paring down my config file to the bare minimum with no success |
| 12:31 | Yes git is working outside docker | |
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| 12:33 | oleonard | Hm, diff says the permissions are different |
| 12:34 | ashimema | https://stackoverflow.com/a/11225468 is interesting |
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| 12:38 | nlegrand | Hey #koha |
| 12:41 | ashimema: it was you or kidclamp in a restaurant while hackfesting who said “unbless” should have been named “curse”? It seems it was really discussed but then dismissed by Larry Wall: https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=183344 | |
| 12:41 | ashimema | haha |
| 12:43 | nlegrand | also found a “Damn” module: https://metacpan.org/pod/Acme::Damn |
| 12:43 | ashimema | lol |
| 12:43 | nlegrand | ho and a Curse one: https://metacpan.org/pod/Acme::Curse |
| 12:50 | davidnind[m] | ashimema and cait: are you okay if I defer the documenttion meeting to next week? Two apologies so far (caroline_catlady and AndyBoze) |
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| 12:50 | ashimema | sure |
| 12:51 | davidnind[m] | thanks! |
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| 12:52 | ashimema | if we do a 'fake' meeting we can minute the change |
| 12:53 | want me to do that? | |
| 12:53 | cait | davidnind[m]: of course |
| 12:53 | must be a terrible time for you too | |
| 12:53 | thd | davidmind: You should be pleased to know that I am increasing a default column size in MySQL to preserve your contribution which exceeds the default size for MySQL but Postgres had not imposed a size limit for many columns. |
| 12:53 | davidnind[m] | if you like |
| 12:53 | thanks cait! | |
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| 12:54 | davidnind[m] | day light savings has kicked in now too, so I think it is an hour later as well |
| 12:54 | hi lucyvh! | |
| 12:54 | lucyvh++ | |
| 12:55 | lucyvh: thanks for all the changes! | |
| 12:55 | cait | lucyvh++! |
| 12:56 | ashimema | :) |
| 12:56 | thd | davidmind: You went over the MySQL limit twice, one of which was an especially important greeting message where in the Wiki where you explained to some user how you had fixed that user's login. |
| 12:56 | * ashimema | is very pleased to see lucyvh contributing to docs.. she's awesome |
| 12:56 | davidnind[m] | lucyvh: going to defer the meeting untl next week as caroline + andy have put in their apologies, hope that is okay |
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| 12:57 | lucyvh | Yes that's fine |
| 12:57 | davidnind[m] | thanks lucyvh! |
| 12:57 | Marie-Luce | Hi everyone |
| 12:58 | lucyvh | Thanks all, but i've only submitted 4 merge requests! |
| 12:58 | Hi Marie-Luce | |
| 12:59 | ashimema | every little helps |
| 12:59 | lucyvh | ashimena++ |
| 12:59 | Marie-Luce | I'm caroline_catlady colleague |
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| 13:00 | davidnind[m] | thd: I don't remember that... |
| 13:00 | Hi Marie-Luce! | |
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| 13:01 | davidnind[m] | thd: I assume tha is not good... |
| 13:01 | thd | davidnind: You did well and showed a good reason for the column to be larger than the default in MySQL. |
| 13:02 | davidnind: I have had to alter a few column sizes for MySQL because actual legitimate use shows that they must be larger than the small MySQL default. | |
| 13:05 | There were a couple of columns where the autogenerated content was necessarily larger than the MySQL default which is just insufficient planing from MediaWiki developers. | |
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| 13:09 | thd | ashimema: I would very much like to understand why Git was broken yesterday and how you managed to fix it. |
| 13:09 | davidnind[m] | thd: thanks for all your work with the wiki migration and resolving the problems! |
| 13:10 | ashimema | it's all to do with case sensative file systems |
| 13:10 | basically.. some systems care about case whilst others do not.. | |
| 13:10 | thd | davidnind[m]: I am very sorry that I had run out of time a few years ago. Now the causes of me having been run out of time are dead and otherwise put to rest. |
| 13:10 | ashimema | so.. someone added a test file to /Elasticsearch whilst someone else added a test to /ElasticSearch |
| 13:10 | spot the 'S' vs 's' there.. | |
| 13:11 | thd | yes |
| 13:11 | ashimema | so.. that's fine if you have a filesystem that recognises case.. |
| 13:11 | but.. if you have one that doesn't care about case then /Elasticsearch and /ElasticSearch collide and things go terrible wrong. | |
| 13:12 | the fix is either to be mean and insist everyone uses case sensative file systems | |
| 13:12 | OR.. the fix your project so it's case insensative/case sensative collisions don't happen | |
| 13:12 | thd | ashimema: Are you saying that it would not have been broken if I had tried to pull from Git from a case sensitive filesystem? |
| 13:12 | ashimema | so.. I opted for the latter and moved the test from /Elasticsearch into /ElasticSearch and removed the now empty /Elasticsearch directory |
| 13:13 | that removed the collisions | |
| 13:13 | exactly thd | |
| 13:13 | i never saw the issue because my file system cares about case | |
| 13:13 | one tic.. I'll just do the meeting pospone before I forget | |
| 13:13 | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 10 October 2019 | |
| 13:13 | huginn | Meeting started Thu Oct 10 13:13:55 2019 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:13 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 13:13 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 10 October 2019) | |
| 13:13 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_10_october_2019' |
| 13:13 | thd | Someone had reported immediately after your fix that the Git config was broken. |
| 13:14 | ashimema | #info Meeting postponed due to appologies from a large number of attendees |
| 13:14 | oleonard | thd: That's a problem with my system, not related |
| 13:14 | ashimema | #topic Set date and time for next meeting |
| 13:14 | Topic for #koha is now Set date and time for next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 10 October 2019) | |
| 13:15 | ashimema | #info Next meeting: 17 October 2019, 13:00 |
| 13:15 | #endmeeting | |
| 13:15 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 13:15 | huginn | Meeting ended Thu Oct 10 13:15:44 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 13:15 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-10-10-13.13.html | |
| 13:15 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-10-10-13.13.txt | |
| 13:15 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]10-13.13.log.html | |
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| 13:16 | thd | oleonard: What was wrong with your git configuration? |
| 13:17 | oleonard | I have no idea. Still can't get koha-testing-docker to run properly |
| 13:17 | davidnind[m] | ashimema++ |
| 13:17 | oleonard | thd: I was tweaking my system to try to get my koha git repo to be case sensitive (since this isn't the first case sensitivity problem I've run into) and something broke |
| 13:18 | davidnind[m] | quickest meeting ever! |
| 13:19 | thd | Do we not have a coding guideline and/or some technical means to prevent case insensitive problems for Git without running Git on a case sensitive filesystem? |
| 13:20 | marcelr | linux is case sensitive; so many run like that |
| 13:20 | thd | s/without running Git on a case sensitive/without running Git on a case insensitive/ |
| 13:21 | marcelr | problem here is probably syncing with a repo on a windows disk ? |
| 13:23 | thd | Is there some way to configure Git while running on a case sensitive filesystem which many of us run to avoid case insensitive problems for others by giving some warning at least for a patch? |
| 13:28 | ashimema | it's only really a problem when you end up with a case sensative name collision.. which is fairly rare |
| 13:28 | in my entire time in Koha I can only think of this happening once before | |
| 13:28 | and it was a trivial fix once we identified it. | |
| 13:29 | marcelr | yeah more work to prevent it than to fix it very incidentally |
| 13:29 | ashimema | that's my feeling too |
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| 13:56 | oleonard | New error message! Progress?? sudo: unable to execute /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra: No such file or directory |
| 13:56 | (What changed: i rolled back Git for Windows version) | |
| 14:01 | ashimema: I don't suppose you have any suggestions for that? ^^ | |
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| 14:06 | * ashimema | reads |
| 14:06 | ashimema | that's wierd |
| 14:06 | thats inside the docker container right? | |
| 14:06 | oleonard | yes |
| 14:07 | ashimema | using kshell ? |
| 14:07 | or is that part of the reset_all | |
| 14:08 | oleonard | That's output from the docker container starting up |
| 14:08 | ashimema | :'( |
| 14:08 | we need tomas | |
| 14:08 | pretty much reached the limit of my understanding at this point, sorry | |
| 14:09 | tcohen | hi |
| 14:09 | wahanui | hi, tcohen |
| 14:09 | tcohen | I'm here |
| 14:09 | what's up | |
| 14:09 | oleonard | tcohen: I'm still here with problems :( |
| 14:09 | tcohen: Now I'm getting this error: "sudo: unable to execute /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra: No such file or directory" | |
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| 14:10 | oleonard | it says the same about /usr/sbin/koha-plack |
| 14:11 | eythian | when you get that message, first things to check: 1) does the file exist, 2) are the permissions sensible, 3) is the interpreter in the hashbang line present and correct. |
| 14:12 | (not checking #3 has sent me down the wrong paths into confusion in the past.) | |
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| 14:21 | oleonard | eythian: I don't know how I could check that the file exists when the container isn't running |
| 14:21 | eythian | run the container? |
| 14:28 | tcohen | docker run -ti koha/koha-testing:master bash |
| 14:28 | owen | |
| 14:28 | oleonard: have you docker-compose pull | |
| 14:29 | oleonard | No I don't know what that is |
| 14:29 | * oleonard | doesn't see it in the readme |
| 14:32 | oleonard | "docker-compose pull" seems to have a lot to think about with koha |
| 14:35 | tcohen | oleonard, you should do it frecquently |
| 14:36 | the docker image for koha-testing is rebuilt on each change on koha-misc4dev, release-tools, qa-test-tools, and on any change to the koha-testing-docker project itself | |
| 14:39 | oleonard | koha-rebuild-zebra and koha-plack are there and their permissions look the same as most everything else |
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| 15:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:03 | bag | morning |
| 18:03 | wahanui | hmmm... morning is always someone's afternoon |
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| 18:11 | oleonard | Hi bag, wb cait |
| 18:11 | bag | heya owen |
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| 18:29 | * cait | waves :) |
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| 19:23 | caroline_crazycatlady | hi all! |
| 19:24 | rangi | hi caroline_crazycatlady |
| 19:28 | cait | hi caroline_crazycatlady :) |
| 19:28 | caroline_crazycatlady++ # thx again for your help yesterday | |
| 19:30 | caroline_crazycatlady | I saw Anke was able to resolve her problem :) |
| 19:33 | cait | yep |
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| 21:07 | caroline_crazycatlady | in 19.05 release notes, it says that the SendAllEmailsTo is a new syspref... it was there before no? |
| 21:10 | rangi | i cant remember |
| 21:13 | cait | hm i don't think it was |
| 21:13 | new feature to test notices | |
| 21:13 | do you have he bug number? | |
| 21:13 | i think it's an inlibro dev - could it be you got it in your installations maybe? | |
| 21:13 | caroline_crazycatlady | I can't find it, it's just in the "new sysprefs" |
| 21:14 | Ok, if it's an inlibro dev, it makes sense that I had it before then | |
| 21:14 | I use it ALL the time, I was surprised it was in the new ones | |
| 21:15 | cait | let me look |
| 21:15 | i think i know how to find it | |
| 21:16 | bug 8000 | |
| 21:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, RESOLVED FIXED, Test mode for notices |
| 21:17 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok cool! I didn't know we had a feature in 19.05 :) |
| 21:18 | cait | more than one i think |
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| 21:52 | caroline_crazycatlady | good night everyone! |
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