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| 00:34 | dcook | @later tell nuentoter How are the checkouts being performed? |
| 00:34 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:43 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:53 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 07:09 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:37 | ashimema | yowser dcook was busy.. |
| 07:37 | I'm at the point of.. lets just add a note and give up on the tests I think | |
| 07:37 | thanks for working so diligently dcoot | |
| 07:37 | * thanks for working so diligently dcook | |
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| 07:47 | magnuse | dcook++ |
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| 07:53 | * magnuse | hands andreashm the double sided tape |
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| 08:08 | dcook | Thanks, ashimema and magnuse :) |
| 08:08 | I reckon maybe just adding a note is a good plan hehe | |
| 08:09 | My test can live on Bugzilla in case anyone ever desperately needs it | |
| 08:09 | ashimema | Thanks so much for persuing all the options :) |
| 08:09 | dcook | :) |
| 08:09 | I've been in a bit of a testing frenzy lately | |
| 08:09 | ashimema | always nice to have a test when possible but I think you've diligently proved if possible it's bloomin hard and not entirely worth working any more on. |
| 08:09 | dcook | Really actually want to get more tests in for 10662, but I've actually had a lot of non-Koha work lately, so focused on htat |
| 08:10 | ashimema | bug 10662 |
| 08:10 | dcook | Arguably could maybe put something in xt/ I guess but yeah I don't think there's too much to be gained |
| 08:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
| 08:10 | ashimema | oh, yeah.. that one would be nice |
| 08:10 | dcook | 10662 uses an event-driven framework which makes things a bit tough to test... |
| 08:10 | But I'm thinking a bit about how I can do it | |
| 08:11 | * magnuse | should be looking at the functional side of that one, but no time... |
| 08:11 | dcook | I take it https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]sts_are_required_.28updated_Apr_26.2C_2017.29 refers to all methods and not just public methods? |
| 08:11 | Although I think Devel::Cover might only look at public methods | |
| 08:11 | Not that Perl knows what that is but I think it treats methods starting with _ as special.. | |
| 08:12 | * dcook | has actually had quite a bit of fun writing unit tests in Ruby lately |
| 08:13 | dcook | Oh and I have a Koha::Daemon module... not sure how to test that one.. |
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| 08:22 | dcook | Trying to rebase now... |
| 08:22 | And missing my shameface emoji.. | |
| 08:22 | 😅 | |
| 08:22 | There we go | |
| 08:24 | andreashm | hey dcook |
| 08:25 | working late? | |
| 08:25 | dcook | Yep heh |
| 08:25 | I wasn't going to, but... | |
| 08:26 | Have some time to make up at work plus I have been thinking a lot about tests lately and thinking about 10662 | |
| 08:26 | * andreashm | reads the logs and sees discussions about 10662. yay! |
| 08:27 | dcook | heh |
| 08:27 | I moved to a new computer recently so need to re-establish some of my community dev tools | |
| 08:27 | * andreashm | was at a BIBFRAME workshop here in Stockholm yesterday. Was thinking about our RDF in Koha project |
| 08:27 | looks at magnuse | |
| 08:27 | dcook | :o |
| 08:27 | Funnily enough, I've actually been working a lot with RDF over the past year or two with Fedora Commons | |
| 08:27 | andreashm | cool! |
| 08:28 | dcook | Fedora 4.x uses RDF as its native data format |
| 08:28 | andreashm | really? interesting! |
| 08:28 | dcook | Although it stores it in a weird way |
| 08:28 | andreashm | all RDF seems to be stored in a weird way in production. =) |
| 08:28 | dcook | Heh |
| 08:29 | andreashm | LIBRIS har it stored as json-ld in postgres for example |
| 08:29 | dcook | Well this has some scalability issues I think |
| 08:29 | * dcook | likes json-ld :) |
| 08:29 | andreashm | no triplestore even |
| 08:29 | * andreashm | likes json-ld better than rdf-xml |
| 08:30 | andreashm | but both often fly way over my head. |
| 08:30 | dcook | Yeah in the past few years I've seen next to nothing about triplestores |
| 08:30 | Or SPARQL | |
| 08:30 | Yeah I find json-ld way easier to work with than RDF/XML | |
| 08:30 | Although I find Turtle I think the easiest to read.. | |
| 08:31 | Fedora Commons uses ModeShape... which uses "Java API for content repositories" (JCR) and stores that data I think in binary in PostgreSQL... | |
| 08:31 | It's weird | |
| 08:31 | I know I talked down kidclamp from storing RDF in MySQL ages ago, but I think I'd be more inclined to do that now | |
| 08:32 | Fedora Commons doesn't really take advantage of any "Linked Data" functionality | |
| 08:32 | But it uses RDF | |
| 08:32 | magnuse | i have listened to hundreds of FLOSS weekly podcasts, and i think rdf/linked data has been mentioned once... |
| 08:32 | dcook | Oh that being said... there is something neat going on in Japan soon |
| 08:32 | https://www.w3.org/community/lbd/ | |
| 08:32 | They're having a meeting in Fukuoka I think | |
| 08:33 | andreashm | magnuse: yeah. and bibframe has lots to sort out before becoming truly useful (mostly regard works). But the community should start working supporting it, and multiple metadata formats in general, or there will be trouble in coming years. |
| 08:33 | dcook | https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/schedule.html |
| 08:33 | magnuse | andreashm: amen |
| 08:34 | * magnuse | has booked trip to, and hotel in, marseille! |
| 08:34 | dcook | I was talking to a non-library person too about how they used schema.org with some of their projects (I think just in terms of SEO for Google) |
| 08:34 | Oh yeah I wanted to go to Marseille this year.. | |
| 08:34 | Too busy though O_O | |
| 08:34 | andreashm | clear your table and go! =) |
| 08:34 | magnuse | dcook: we wanted you to go too :-) |
| 08:34 | dcook | Ah mostly me needing to be here for the kid |
| 08:34 | magnuse: daww | |
| 08:34 | One day | |
| 08:35 | magnuse | kids > everything else |
| 08:35 | dcook | Yarp |
| 08:35 | magnuse | dcook: are you going to kohacon20 in wellington? |
| 08:35 | * dcook | ponders |
| 08:35 | andreashm | this is going on in Stockholm now: https://www.kb.se/samverkan-oc[…]d169b8ba882a1e762 |
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| 08:35 | dcook | Yes I think I'm going to do whatever I can to go to that one |
| 08:35 | * andreashm | could only go yesterday though |
| 08:35 | dcook | Might need to hire someone to look after the kiddo while I'm in Wellington heh |
| 08:36 | magnuse | how old are they now? |
| 08:36 | dcook | Three years old now |
| 08:37 | andreashm: I recognize a few of the names on there I thik | |
| 08:37 | ashimema | They grow up so fast |
| 08:37 | magnuse | ah, not quite ready to stay home alone ;-) |
| 08:37 | dcook | They sure do |
| 08:37 | Hehe yeah not yet | |
| 08:37 | And not so big as to enjoy trucking along with dad to a conference | |
| 08:37 | magnuse | yeah |
| 08:37 | andreashm | dcook: seems like a lot of the main players in the bibframe/linked data/semantic web in libraries are here |
| 08:37 | dcook | Yeah? |
| 08:37 | andreashm | or so I understand. |
| 08:38 | ashimema | interesting |
| 08:38 | * andreashm | is out of the loop on that one |
| 08:38 | dcook | Yeah I'm out of the loop as well |
| 08:38 | Had other things to occupy my days | |
| 08:38 | I don't know where all the time goes though | |
| 08:40 | I've been missing Koha a bit | |
| 08:40 | I mean I've been doing BAU type Koha things but missing the Koha community :p | |
| 08:40 | Using Docker for pretty much all my things now, so going to try revisiting koha-testing-docker rather than kohadevbox.. | |
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| 08:42 | andreashm | I think most are using koha-testing-docker now. |
| 08:42 | * andreashm | should revisit that at the hackfest. |
| 08:42 | dcook | Ohh that's good to hear |
| 08:43 | It certainly seems to get a lot of attention on Gitlab | |
| 08:43 | * ashimema | likes it |
| 08:43 | dcook | :D |
| 08:43 | I think I had some issues using git clone on Git Bash on Windows... | |
| 08:43 | So I ended up just using a named volume to keep it all within the Hyper-V VM | |
| 08:44 | * ashimema | does everythng on linux.. what is this Windows you talk about? |
| 08:44 | dcook | Hehe |
| 08:44 | ashimema | aren't those the things you open when it gets a bit warm inside? |
| 08:44 | dcook | I recently had someone run into a problem running a Linux desktop |
| 08:44 | The department mandated software didn't have a Linux client | |
| 08:45 | Just Windows and Mac.. | |
| 08:45 | ashimema | really.. don't believe them.. it never happens :P |
| 08:45 | * ashimema | has barely touched Windows in best part of a decade now |
| 08:45 | dcook | hehe |
| 08:45 | I haven't at home for... yeah nearly a decade. | |
| 08:46 | Helps that most things these days are done over the web | |
| 08:46 | ashimema | mm.. that's about the only reason I have a laptop that still dual boots windows.. it gtes the windwos side booted about once a year for a client much like that.. |
| 08:46 | dcook | Used to be you had to do your taxes in Australia on Windows or Mac |
| 08:46 | ashimema | annoying thing is.. it then takes best part of a day to run through updates |
| 08:46 | dcook | Right?! heh |
| 08:46 | ashimema | ouch |
| 08:46 | dcook | I turned on an old Android tablet for my kid to play with |
| 08:46 | Got sunk by updates and syncs | |
| 08:46 | Eventually it caught up though | |
| 08:46 | Trying out "Scratch Jr" | |
| 08:47 | Seemed a bit of a hit | |
| 08:47 | Speaking of updates... waiting for the git in this named volume to update... heh | |
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| 09:00 | dcook | Hmm getting lots of errors which seem like they wouldn't be from my code... going to try master.. |
| 09:00 | Yeah... | |
| 09:00 | ashimema: Is master broken right now? | |
| 09:00 | DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Unknown column 'me.privacy_guarantor_fines' in 'field list' at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Objects.pm line 92 | |
| 09:00 | at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Exception.pm line 77 | |
| 09:01 | Oh or do I just need to restart plack.. | |
| 09:01 | ashimema | er |
| 09:01 | dcook | I'm so out of touch atm.. |
| 09:01 | ashimema | well it's working locally.. and passing the test suit |
| 09:02 | dcook | I think I probably just need to restart Plack heh |
| 09:02 | ashimema | that sort of error is usually an error on my part forgetting to run the dbic schema files generation |
| 09:02 | dcook | Hmm |
| 09:02 | ashimema | still not working for you? |
| 09:02 | * ashimema | quickly checks here |
| 09:03 | dcook | Just rechecking now |
| 09:03 | restarted starman but now it's just spinning its wheels int he browser... going ot check the logs.. | |
| 09:04 | Table 'koha_kohadev.plugin_methods' doesn't exist | |
| 09:04 | This should be a fresh database but maybe koha-testing-docker did something else.. | |
| 09:04 | I don't think I've really used it since Portland last year | |
| 09:05 | I might just rip it down and start again.. | |
| 09:06 | ashimema | reset_all will clean up the db for you |
| 09:06 | might be worth running that | |
| 09:06 | dcook | Ah I recalled reset_all from kohadevbox but wasn't sure itw as across |
| 09:07 | I already took down the docker containers. Waiting for them to start again. | |
| 09:08 | /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl is taking its sweet time hehe | |
| 09:09 | Nearly done.. | |
| 09:10 | Yep loaded just fine this time | |
| 09:10 | Now to remember the username and password hehe | |
| 09:11 | * magnuse | still uses kohadevbox |
| 09:11 | dcook | There we go.. |
| 09:12 | magnuse: kohadevbox and Docker Desktop don't play nicely together on Windows :( | |
| 09:12 | And I use Docker Desktop for a lot of other projects.. | |
| 09:12 | So join the dark side to make it easier for me... hehe | |
| 09:13 | Ok updating the 10662 instructions for koha-testing-docker.. | |
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| 09:26 | dcook | Hurray for writing test plans |
| 09:26 | I've gotten to the very last step with no fuss | |
| 09:27 | Hmm looks like maybe a newer patch has caused a problem.. | |
| 09:33 | Oh or maybe we're stricter now.. | |
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| 09:51 | andreashm | nice to see you working on that again dcook |
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| 11:23 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:42 | * oleonard | waves to wizzyrea |
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| 13:22 | caroline_crazycatlady | good morning! |
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| 14:41 | jzairo_ | hello |
| 14:43 | caroline_crazycatlady | hi jzairo_! |
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| 14:49 | ashimema | fridolin about? |
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| 14:51 | fridolin | ashimema: yep |
| 14:52 | ashimema | pm'd you |
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| 16:21 | oleonard | I completely forgot the koha-US conference started today! |
| 16:21 | Anyone here also there? | |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | heaps I reckon |
| 16:37 | * oleonard | hopes it is well-attended |
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| 17:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:39 | oleonard | tcohen around? |
| 17:48 | tcohen | yes |
| 17:48 | sorry for the delay | |
| 17:48 | preparing for a call | |
| 17:49 | oleonard | Do you have a moment? It can wait if not |
| 17:49 | tcohen | yes |
| 17:49 | shoot | |
| 17:50 | oleonard | Thinking about the holds interface... The data the API provides isn't as fully-formed as what we need to show onscreen. I'm not sure if the answer is to change the API or to have an intermediate step |
| 17:51 | So, biblionumber and borrowernumber are provided by the API, but not biblio.title and borrowers.surname, etc. | |
| 17:55 | tcohen | right |
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| 17:55 | tcohen | I proposed to use the HAL model to represent objects that have relationships with other objects, and even embeded ones |
| 17:56 | I think that was voted or is about to | |
| 17:56 | work on your prototype UI without that data | |
| 17:56 | and I will provide (in paralel) a solution to that | |
| 17:56 | oleonard | Ah, I didn't understand what HAL was about when it was brought up at the meeting |
| 17:56 | tcohen | now that we have sort of a consensus on how to wrap the things together |
| 17:57 | HAL is a standard way of representing the data | |
| 17:57 | my idea is that, when you request a hold object using | |
| 17:57 | Accept application/json | |
| 17:57 | you get the raw object as we do now | |
| 17:58 | but if we use Accept application/hal+json | |
| 17:58 | we get the full fledeged one | |
| 17:59 | oleonard | I see. |
| 17:59 | Okay, I can continue my work with that in mind. | |
| 18:03 | tcohen: Do you plan to make an endpoint for system preferences? | |
| 18:04 | tcohen | yes sir! |
| 18:05 | oleonard | Good :) |
| 18:05 | tcohen | I mean, for all the things :-D |
| 18:05 | if you have something in mind, like revamping the sysprefs area, I'm all in | |
| 18:07 | oleonard | I just had some ideas about how we handle links to sysprefs throughout the interface... Would be nice to be able to offer a little popup window for setting a single pref |
| 18:13 | Including, perhaps, a link from the database update output in the web interface | |
| 18:13 | Although I guess that would be a request from the db user | |
| 18:18 | * tcohen | is bouncing of joy |
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