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| 01:39 | * dcook | waves |
| 01:42 | dcook | Is kohadevbox still the de facto dev tool or is koha-testing-docker rising up to replace it? |
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| 03:19 | dcook | Looks like kohadevbox doesn't work using Hyper-V with Virtualbox 6.0.x. Tempted to see if I could get kohadevbox to use Hyper-V instead of Virtualbox... |
| 03:19 | But for now going to use koha-testing-docker instead... | |
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| 03:47 | mtj | hiya dcook, i took bug 13193 for a spin... everything looks good, test suite passes |
| 03:47 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13193 normal, P3, ---, joonas.kylmala, Needs Signoff , Discussion: strategy for diagnosing memcache issues. |
| 03:47 | dcook | mtj: Interesting. I am just testing that now and I can't reproduce the problem with the snippet. |
| 03:47 | Double-checking that I'm not blind. hehe. | |
| 03:49 | Joonas's comment perfectly describes the scenario I've encountered in the wild though | |
| 03:50 | mtj | i didnt get round to testing the snippet myself... perhaps bump the loop to 5000 ? |
| 03:50 | dcook | Actually, there are some errors... there we go. Had to up from 50 to 100 |
| 03:50 | mtj | snap |
| 03:50 | dcook | Cache for version is 18.1101000 at C4/Context.pm line 420. |
| 03:50 | Cache for version is 18.1101000 at C4/Context.pm line 420. | |
| 03:50 | dcookkohabackup:/kohawebs/dev/dcook/git> Use of uninitialized value $cached_var in concatenation (.) or string at C4/Context.pm line 420. |
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| 03:50 | Cache for timeout is at C4/Context.pm line 420. | |
| 03:50 | Use of uninitialized value $cached_var in concatenation (.) or string at C4/Context.pm line 420. | |
| 03:50 | Cache for version is at C4/Context.pm line 420. | |
| 03:50 | Cache for version is 18.1101000 at C4/Context.pm line 420. | |
| 03:50 | Cache for timeout is 1d at C4/Context.pm line 420. | |
| 03:51 | When I saw this in the wild, I thought I was going insane... hehe | |
| 03:51 | I mean I was pretty sure I wasn't insane, but was stumped | |
| 03:52 | mtj | ..might be nice to use the snippet as a test.t file |
| 03:53 | a good way to catch similar problems | |
| 03:57 | dcook | Hmm mtj you tested the fix? |
| 03:58 | Oh derp I'm doing the wrong dir.. | |
| 03:59 | Oh beautiful.. | |
| 04:00 | mtj: It requires some debugging code at the moment though, so I think probably would need to use something else | |
| 04:01 | mtj | i ran the test suite, and confirmed the about.pl was correct/green |
| 04:02 | dcook | I'll look at signing off really quickly |
| 04:02 | Have to leave the office in a few minutes | |
| 04:02 | I was so happy to discover Joonas's comments this morning though. I think I almost wept for joy hehe | |
| 04:05 | Signed off :) | |
| 04:06 | mtj | aah yes, re: debugging code.. i see the snippet needs a 'warn' added to context.pm.. |
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| 05:34 | mtj | dcook: i wrote the following snippet to prove the memcache bug, but hit a Schrodinger's cat problem.. |
| 05:34 | pastebot | "mtj" at 192.168.1.110 pasted "memcache snippet" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/14830 |
| 05:35 | mtj | it seems that attempting to fetch the pref values, stops the buggy behaviour, somehow... |
| 05:42 | anyhoo.. i'm happy to admit defeat.. :) | |
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| 06:34 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:01 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:44 | dcook | mtj: It's a hard one. In my case, the buggy behaviour was causing IndependentBranches to return "softno" instead of 0. It had to do with the ordering of the syspref lookup in the code as well. |
| 07:44 | I'm guessing that maybe 2 SIP requests came through in close proximity and then one retrieved the 2nd value when it was trying to get the 1st value because of a race condition | |
| 07:45 | Or rather got the 1st value when it was trying to get the 2nd value because it was getting a value intended for a newer request... | |
| 07:45 | Debugging concurrency problems is ahhhh | |
| 07:45 | paxed | hm. i think i've seen something similar, with different sysprefs. "solved" it by restarting plack, iirc |
| 07:45 | dcook | paxed: Sounds about right |
| 07:45 | Any time you have a persistent process I reckon | |
| 07:46 | So Plack, SIP server, maybe something else | |
| 07:46 | The implications seem pretty massive to me | |
| 07:46 | paxed | indeed |
| 07:46 | dcook | Looks like it's not too hard to fix in any case |
| 07:46 | Hardest part is working out the logistics of packaging a few more extra modules, but that's not uncommon | |
| 07:47 | paxed | wondering if it's due to koha using plack/caches wrong at some place, or if it's due to some module misbehaving |
| 07:47 | mtj | hi hi, i hit the bug using a non-placked instance too.. |
| 07:50 | dcook | paxed: yes and yes |
| 07:50 | mtj: Whaaaat? Really? | |
| 07:50 | That's disturbing | |
| 07:50 | non-placked instance using a fork? | |
| 07:50 | paxed: see https://metacpan.org/pod/Cache[…]ached::Fast::Safe and https://metacpan.org/pod/Cache::Memcached::Fast | |
| 07:51 | Specifically the bit about "disconnect_all" | |
| 07:52 | I can see how file handle inheritance would be a problem with forking, so a preforking server like Starman or SIP server would have the problem.. | |
| 07:53 | Apache would prefork workers but each one should load up a new copy of Perl and using a single thread use the same socket synchronously.. | |
| 07:53 | Admittedly, the Koha cache code is a bit terrifying... | |
| 07:54 | mtj: Ohhh that makes me think.. | |
| 07:54 | I saw something about that | |
| 07:54 | In theory, memcached (ie L2 cache) should only be used 1 time to look up a value, and store it in the L1 cache (hash variable) | |
| 07:54 | This causes a problem in persistent processes... | |
| 07:55 | trying to think how it would bite you for a non-plack instance though.. | |
| 07:55 | Koha::Caches->flush_L1_caches(); is what stops the problem in persistent processes like Zebra daemon and Plack.. | |
| 07:55 | mtj | dcook: i ran Joonas' snippent on a non-placked instance, and got the expected corruption |
| 07:56 | dcook | (still a problem for SIP server though... feel like I've talked about that somewhere..) |
| 07:56 | mtj: You're running the snippet on the CLI though, right? | |
| 07:56 | Not via the web? | |
| 07:57 | mtj | yes, in a koha-shell via cli |
| 07:57 | dcook | Ahh ok np |
| 07:57 | In that case, it doesn't matter if it's plack or not plack | |
| 07:57 | Because you're creating a persistent process by running that snippet | |
| 07:57 | Well not persistent exactly.. | |
| 07:57 | But you create the forking server essentially | |
| 07:58 | mtj | yep, understood |
| 07:58 | dcook | In any case, I reckon we should just do Joonas's fix hehe |
| 07:58 | Hmm I think the L1 cache issue will still be a problem with the SIP server, but I'll have to look at that one another day | |
| 08:00 | Oh the bug report has been updated.. | |
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| 08:05 | ashimema | Mornin' |
| 08:06 | adding a regression test does look challenging | |
| 08:08 | dcook | I was just replying to your comment hehe |
| 08:08 | Another reason why? | |
| 08:08 | First 5 tries I got errors | |
| 08:08 | Now I'm running the same snippet another 5 times and no errors | |
| 08:08 | ashimema | be interesting to se your reply.. |
| 08:09 | dcook | I'm going to try a few more things and then finalize that reply |
| 08:09 | ashimema | I've not looked into testing it in great detail yet.. but I thought it might be challenging.. hense my comment of 'if at all possible'.. hense if people generally think it's not possible that's ok.. but if anyone wants to try I'd be really happy |
| 08:09 | :) | |
| 08:10 | dcook | I really want to haha but I don't think I've got it in me |
| 08:10 | I ran into this problem with the SIP server and I was tearing my hair out | |
| 08:10 | ashimema | so the issue is that two processes end up using the same socket connection right.. |
| 08:10 | dcook | I was praising Joonas from my head to my feet this morning |
| 08:10 | ashimema | and that leads to protocol errors |
| 08:10 | dcook | Looks like |
| 08:10 | At least in theory | |
| 08:10 | And I could see that | |
| 08:10 | Because if you think about it.. | |
| 08:11 | I mean I've written a number of servers and totally made that mistake | |
| 08:11 | ashimema | it worries me that neither module has been maintained since 2017 |
| 08:11 | though.. `if it works why change it` | |
| 08:11 | dcook | Have 2 processes with the same socket connection, and process 1 writes and tries to read, but process 2 reads first and gets the response for proess 1's write |
| 08:11 | Yeah, I noticed that too and wondered | |
| 08:11 | I figure memcached is still a big name, but it's probably lost a lot of ground to redis | |
| 08:12 | And whatever the other one is | |
| 08:12 | ashimema | mmm, makes total sense that sharing a socket is bad |
| 08:12 | dcook | In theory, we could re-write our code to still use Cache::Memcached::Fast |
| 08:12 | ashimema | or rather.. could be bad.. I don't know the innards of the comms protocol used by memcached to be honest.. but yeah.. it rings out as 'could be true' |
| 08:12 | dcook | But I'd trust Cache::Memcached::Fast::Safe more than us |
| 08:12 | ashimema | me to |
| 08:13 | dcook | But scratching my head as to why I can't reproduce this problem now lol |
| 08:13 | ashimema | also.. I wonder about the santizer stuff in ::Safe.. whether we should have been worrying about that side of things before now too |
| 08:14 | dcook | ashimema: I swear sometimes we share the same brain |
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| 08:14 | dcook | I was wondering the same thing.. |
| 08:14 | And I just had a bit of a brainwave | |
| 08:15 | ashimema | we could plausably roughly copy the forking test from Cache::Memcached::Fast::Safe and adapt it to Koha::Cache I think |
| 08:15 | dcook | ashimema: I was thinking about that a bit too |
| 08:15 | But as for testing... | |
| 08:15 | ashimema | hehe.. it's sort of testing by side effect rather than testing the race condition itself.. but I'm OK with that.. |
| 08:15 | dcook | Joonas's code reproduces a particular situation by kind of guessing that it'll break |
| 08:16 | And I was just thinking... we could probably do a better testing | |
| 08:16 | better test* | |
| 08:16 | * dcook | ponders |
| 08:17 | ashimema | it's hard though isn't it.. we need to get the timing just right in the test to cause a certain read/write cross fork scenario.. one which I'm not even sure of the out of order nature yet myself.. |
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| 08:17 | dcook | I was just thinking that |
| 08:17 | So I'm looking into the code from the snippet first | |
| 08:18 | Depending on how low we need to go down, we might be able to simulate the timing | |
| 08:19 | Although that's probably optimistic | |
| 08:19 | check_api_auth is... a little over 200 lines of code.. | |
| 08:19 | ashimema | indeed |
| 08:20 | dcook | Hits Version twice in a row... |
| 08:21 | ashimema | :( |
| 08:21 | magnuse | dcook++ for staying late |
| 08:21 | dcook | Cheers, magnuse |
| 08:22 | I had to take a few hours off in the middle of the day, so working late anyway heh | |
| 08:22 | Got other things I probably should be working on right now, but this particular issue has bothered me for a while, and really keen to solve it | |
| 08:22 | Also hi ^_^ | |
| 08:22 | magnuse | :-) |
| 08:22 | dcook | Ok I'm going to try writing a more reliable test.. |
| 08:22 | magnuse | don't let me interrupt the flow (any more than i alreadu did) |
| 08:25 | * ashimema | doesn't understand how comparing server_versions before and after a fork actually tests this thing... |
| 08:25 | is sure he's missing something there.. | |
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| 08:27 | dcook | Oop.s Family emergency so I think I might be out again. |
| 08:29 | ashimema | have a good evening dcook. |
| 08:44 | mtj | i tried poking at the cache bug a few ways, but it seems very subtle |
| 08:44 | paxed | heisenbug |
| 08:45 | ashimema | indeed |
| 08:45 | paxed | i'm not sure you can conclusively test for (regression of) that kind of bug |
| 08:45 | ashimema | I believe it's there.. sure I've also seen it very randomly but infrequently enough that I've always put it down to fluke situation |
| 08:45 | mtj | running the snippet with a perl -d:Trace , seems to slow the execution down enough that the bug does not occur |
| 08:47 | also, adding a syspref lookup to the loop, seems to stop the bug occuring too | |
| 08:47 | http://paste.koha-community.org/14830 | |
| 08:47 | dcook | I'm still semi here heh |
| 08:47 | ashimema | what we need to do to test it really is to slow down memcached so our perl hits it whilst previous operations are still taking place |
| 08:48 | dcook | mtj: If you take out those two sysprefs lookups, I'd guess the bug might not happen either |
| 08:48 | mtj: I can't even reproduce the bug anymore with the original snippet | |
| 08:49 | mtj | dcook: the bug happens as expected, when removing the lookups |
| 08:49 | dcook | Oooh really? Interesting |
| 08:49 | I don't know why it doesn't happen for me anymore :S | |
| 08:50 | Ha, and now it just happened again | |
| 08:50 | undef this time instead of the wrong value though | |
| 08:51 | mtj | seems increasing the threads provokes the bug more |
| 08:53 | dcook | Makes sense |
| 08:54 | Although I would quibble and say increasing the child processes provokes the bug more heh | |
| 08:54 | I think Joonas's use of the $threads variable name is misleading | |
| 08:55 | I've got to run, but please update the bug report with anything interesting. I'll take another look tomorrow. | |
| 08:55 | ciao #koha. Missed you folks ;) | |
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| 09:47 | mtj | ^ ah yes, a heisenbug is what meant |
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| 11:34 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:41 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 22037: (QA follow-up) Correct misleading comment <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]83873ef12e796ae68> |
| 11:41 | News from kohagit: Bug 23597: Add missing reserved query parameters to GET /holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed83ee55a240a7517> | |
| 11:41 | News from kohagit: Bug 23575: Template error causes item search to be submitted multiple times <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]09e8d9e387bcc5474> | |
| 11:41 | News from kohagit: Bug 22037: (QA follow-up) Implement use of CHARGES_GUARANTEES <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d8a4490fad9049ab8> | |
| 11:41 | News from kohagit: Bug 22037: Block SIP checkout if guarantees have debt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f022f1d07fe2b327f> | |
| 11:45 | magnuse | hiya oleonard |
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| 12:04 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
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| 12:51 | * cait | waves |
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| 13:02 | tcohen | hi |
| 13:12 | oleonard | Hi cait and tcohen |
| 13:13 | * cait | waves |
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| 13:20 | caroline_crazycatlady | Good morning everyone! |
| 13:20 | magnuse | kia ora caroline_crazycatlady |
| 13:21 | cait | hi caroline_crazycatlady and magnuse ! |
| 13:22 | tcohen pm :) | |
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| 13:49 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20691: (QA follow-up) Fix self-reg <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5ef0dacf5ff1ffdea> |
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| 13:59 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21390: Send registration verification emails immediately <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ae823ae05da7ce79> |
| 13:59 | News from kohagit: Bug 21390: Send registration verification emails immediately <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]229fda91c58324bc2> | |
| 13:59 | News from kohagit: Bug 21852: Add more columns and column configuration to overdues report <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15e4659f8357c2f19> | |
| 14:01 | cait | tcohen++ ashimema++ |
| 14:01 | maryse++ | |
| 14:02 | moving bug 21390 | |
| 14:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21390 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to master , Send self registration verification emails immediately |
| 14:02 | * ashimema | is excited to see lots of holds api's happening.. and looking forward to seeing the ux/ui using them |
| 14:02 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:02 | pleasure | |
| 14:02 | * ashimema | gets his hits from pushing these days.. line 'em up folks ;) |
| 14:03 | cait | :) |
| 14:04 | I'll try to feed your queue a bit next week | |
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| 14:19 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 14:19 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 14:19 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:19 | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #873: FIXED in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/873/ | |
| 14:19 | wizzyrea | why would zebra have stopped understanding mc-ccode as a limit |
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| 14:41 | lukeG | *waves* |
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| 14:52 | magnuse | huh, why would the sip2-server start to say this after a restart: unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 244, <STDIN> line 1. |
| 14:55 | eythian | magnuse: a chance for you to fix the error message so it describes the actual filename with path that it's looking for |
| 14:56 | magnuse | clever! :-) |
| 14:57 | any hunches what it might be looking for? | |
| 14:57 | eythian | not a clue sorry. My guess would be environment weirdness so that it's looking in the wrong place. |
| 14:58 | * eythian | has developed the religion of supplying verbose error messages with enough information in them to actually diagnose the source of the issue. |
| 14:59 | magnuse | that does not sound like a stupid idea ;-) |
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| 15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:51 | oleonard | tcohen still around? |
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| 16:07 | magnuse | soo, as far as I can tell, during the SIP2 Login process, everything is ok until this line: my $dbh = C4::Context->dbh; in C4::Auth::check_api_auth(). then it just dies silently. but why? |
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| 16:31 | wizzyrea | cait about? |
| 16:31 | oh, no. | |
| 16:44 | cait++ | |
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| 16:49 | caroline_crazycatlady | any cataloguing geeks around? |
| 16:53 | oleonard | Maybe you should ask, caroline_crazycatlady, in case people are afraid they're not geeky enough to answer |
| 16:54 | caroline_crazycatlady | I have questions regarding subdivision authority records (fields 18X), how to use them |
| 16:55 | I know Koha doesn't support that type of authority record, although there seems to be an opening, looking at the code in bug 21697 | |
| 16:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Free-floating subdivision cannot be manage correctly in Koha |
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| 18:46 | magnuse | figured out my SIP2-problem, will submitt a patch after i catch some sleep |
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| 20:48 | nuentoter | o7, question, I'm using koha 19.05.03.000 - I seem to have some random checkouts, that simply don't register in the system. I will checkout a book to someone, and it will show it as checked-out. The next day I will search for that book and it is available with no circulation history. |
| 20:49 | got my coverflow working well btw, it was a stupid mistake on my end or improper syntax in the plugin options, one too many spaces | |
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| 20:52 | davidnind[m] | nuentoter: Excellent! Will make the updates needed to the docs in the next day or so. |
| 20:55 | nuentoter | any idea of where to start looking for where my missing checkouts are going? |
| 21:01 | caroline_crazycatlady | nuentoter: The first place I'd look is in the logs (in tools > Log viewer) |
| 21:02 | I had that problem with a client once and I was telling her that she was the one returning the items and it ended up being because she was doing inventory and had checked the box to return items >_< | |
| 21:06 | nuentoter | im looking through logs now and i see nothing abnormal. the books that were checked out but not appearing in system as checked out are completely missing from logs....... I'm gonna have to look over shoulders for a couple days i think to rule out human error |
| 21:08 | caroline_crazycatlady | so you have no logs of those books being checked out? |
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| 21:08 | nuentoter | only my checking them out then back in today so that they appeared in their circ history to keep statistics correct. but it was returned today after being checked out last tuesday |
| 21:09 | which was the first checkout. | |
| 21:13 | caroline_crazycatlady | nuentoter: just rephrasing so I understand. The log only show your checkout and checkin from today, but not last tuesday's checkout and today's checkin? |
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| 21:20 | nuentoter | correct |
| 21:21 | caroline_crazycatlady | huh... so the logs are logging... Do you have any proof that the book was actually checked out at one point last week? |
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| 21:31 | nuentoter | a pretty good employees word lol |
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| 22:15 | caroline_crazycatlady | good night everyone! |
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