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| 00:16 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #199: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/199/ |
| 00:17 | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #201: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/201/ | |
| 00:36 | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #201: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/201/ | |
| 01:38 | alexbuckley | hi all, does anyone know does Koha enforce a maxmimum character length for description fields like 500$a (General notes)? |
| 02:07 | mtj | hey alexbuckley, i think the short version might be 'no' |
| 02:09 | alexbuckley | yeah the Koha record exporter is failing to export records with large General note (500$a) fields on Koha 18.05.04 |
| 02:09 | its doesn't appear to be related to the max-length set in the advanced constraints of the 500$a subfield | |
| 02:09 | mtj | there is some size limit for a MARC21 record of 9999 chars - but Koha's swtch to MARCXML internally, fixed that |
| 02:10 | hmm, perhaps convert the file to marcxml, and import again? | |
| 02:10 | aah, export as marcxml | |
| 02:11 | alexbuckley | ahh yes exporting as marcxml does work, exporting as marc just exports an empty file |
| 02:11 | mtj | ive bumped into import/export problems with Koha, using XML files helped |
| 02:12 | XML seems a bit more robust | |
| 02:12 | alexbuckley | I wonder if this is a bug or deliberate for marc export |
| 02:12 | mtj | alex, youre using XML already hey? |
| 02:13 | alexbuckley | exporting as marcxml is working for me yes, exporting as .marc wasn't |
| 02:13 | mtj | (hmm, perhaps the 9999 limit was a field limit, rather than a record limit) |
| 02:14 | XML is working for large fields, too? | |
| 02:14 | alexbuckley | yeah could be thanks for your help mtj! |
| 02:15 | mtj | great, np :) |
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| 06:48 | ashimema | Data fields in MARC 21 formats are assigned tags beginning with ASCII numeric characters other than two zeroes. Such fields contain indicators and subfield codes, as well as data and a field terminator. There are no restrictions on the number, length, or content of data fields other than those already stated or implied, e.g., those resulting from the limitation of total record length. The structure of a data field is shown schematically below. |
| 07:02 | cait | ? |
| 07:02 | citing marc standard early morning, should i be worried about you? | |
| 07:21 | magnuse | hardly a good sign! |
| 07:21 | \o/ | |
| 07:22 | cait | hm no Andrew yet |
| 07:30 | ashimema | Haha |
| 07:31 | It was a reply to alexbuckley.. then I realised he'd left already | |
| 07:31 | He was confused as to why his Marc exports were failing | |
| 07:31 | And it was because he had massive notes fields | |
| 07:32 | cait | aaah yeah |
| 07:32 | i had that happen | |
| 07:32 | ashimema | No Andrew yet.. he'll be on kids duties for a little while longer.. tends to surface around 9am UK time |
| 07:32 | cait | manuscript descriptions |
| 07:32 | ashimema | Often around before that but in diminished capacity |
| 07:32 | Much like me | |
| 07:32 | cait | ashimema: the revert didn't help i am sorry |
| 07:32 | the second conflict i couldn#t resolve is still there | |
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| 07:32 | ashimema | I'm sure he'll jump on that today for you |
| 07:33 | cait | yeah, but i am worried that is the same issue as yesterday |
| 07:33 | ashimema | I think the revert should help with the rest of the tree allot |
| 07:33 | cait | not sure still |
| 07:33 | it was 2 lines | |
| 07:33 | that is usually easy to resolve | |
| 07:33 | ashimema | It was.. but in code that changes enormously down the line.. trust him 😏 |
| 07:34 | cait | i do |
| 07:34 | just a bit sad that i couldn't finish this morning :) | |
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| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:42 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:42 | reiveune | salut magnuse |
| 07:47 | magnuse | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 07:47 | huginn` | magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Ice Pellets :: 30F/-1C | Wind Chill: 15F/-10C | Wednesday: Windy...with freezing rain this morning ...changing to a wintry mix in the afternoon. High 37F. E winds shifting to NNW at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of precip 60%. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph. Wednesday Night: Cloudy with occasional rain late. Low 34F. Winds ESE at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 90%. (1 more message) |
| 07:47 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:47 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. |
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| 07:47 | magnuse | @wunder marseille, france |
| 07:47 | huginn` | magnuse: Marseille, France :: Partly Cloudy :: 34F/1C | Wind Chill: 29F/-2C | Wednesday: Sunny. High around 60F. Winds ESE at 10 to 20 mph. Wednesday Night: Clear skies. Low 41F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. |
| 07:47 | magnuse | ooh, cold! |
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| 08:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 09:24 | ashimema | anyone know much about OPALS.. I hadn't really paid much attention to it but was recently looking at marshall breedings perceptions servey and it hits top place allot |
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| 09:24 | ashimema | (though it looks to me mostly for small school libraries taking a deeper look) |
| 09:24 | claims to be open source but I can't find any source code | |
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| 09:39 | magnuse | ashimema: is there a standard ILL status for marking a request as "done", and hiding it from the "List requests" table? |
| 09:40 | i thought COMP was it, but it still show in the table | |
| 09:44 | nah, looks like the table display is based on just "my @requests = Koha::Illrequests->as_list;" | |
| 09:48 | that means the table will just keep growing forever, then? | |
| 09:52 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: It will as it currently stands. It's a good point, I think a potential enhancement would be to specify which statuses not to retrieve with that initial API call? |
| 09:54 | magnuse | yeah, sounds like a good idea! |
| 09:54 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: ...or to retrieve them, but hide them. The "List requests" API call is already pretty heavy, so reducing the amount of data initially fetched would be good. We'd have to work out a mechanism for getting the extra data if required... |
| 09:55 | magnuse | i think not retreiving them by default would be good for the speed of things |
| 09:55 | maybe when we get the filtering in place it could be possible to choose to see just the "done" ones | |
| 09:56 | jancis | hello |
| 09:56 | wahanui | bonjour, jancis |
| 09:57 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: Yes, you can filter by status, which would be a good stop gap for now |
| 09:59 | jancis | Can anyone please give a hint why on clean install i get error about duplicate entry '13 - 7' for key 'PRIMARY' at usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SearchField.pm line 39 ??? |
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| 10:11 | AndrewIsh | jancis: That error is encountered when using MySQL instead of MariaDB |
| 10:13 | jancis | AndrewIsh Im using ubuntu 18.04 lts, is it safe to asume that mariaDB 10.2 will work fine, since 10.1 cant be used on 18.04 |
| 10:17 | AndrewIsh | jancis: As far as I know MariaDB 10.2.x should be fine. But if anyone else here knows differently, feel free to chip in! :) |
| 10:17 | jancis | Tnx a lot |
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| 12:32 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 12:38 | oleonard | josef_moravec++ |
| 12:39 | Thanks for testing bug 22045 | |
| 12:39 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Cataloging UX enhancement - Improve access to tabs |
| 12:41 | fridolin | Bug 22323 |
| 12:41 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22323 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , cronjob runreport.pl CSV encoding issue |
| 12:41 | fridolin | encoding is hell :( |
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| 13:04 | oleonard | Anyone know why a warn inside a template plugin script wouldn't get logged? |
| 13:21 | kidclamp | was it definitely called? for template stuff I usually put logging into the output so I can see it in the GUI |
| 13:22 | oleonard | I guess I don't know that it was definitely called |
| 13:24 | paul_p | hello from Miami oleonard & kidclamp & others |
| 13:24 | kidclamp | hi paul_p |
| 13:24 | oleonard | Hi paul_p! |
| 13:24 | Welcome to my time zone :) | |
| 13:24 | kidclamp | sorry four the coffee |
| 13:24 | I know it's not what you are used to | |
| 13:25 | paul_p | kidclamp I don't drink coffee, so don't worry ;) |
| 13:26 | meeting with bag & rangi in a few mn in the hotel lobby, for breakfasts | |
| 13:26 | * oleonard | is jealous |
| 13:26 | wishes he could be a captain of industry too | |
| 13:27 | * kidclamp | goes to shovel snow - is less fun that breakfast with the captains |
| 13:30 | fridolin | cait: hi dear |
| 13:31 | cait: do you have a second for MARC21 question ? | |
| 13:32 | * paul_p | captain of industry ? very funny joke :D :D |
| 13:32 | paul_p | leaving for breakfast, see you soon guys |
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| 13:52 | oleonard | Oh cool my Koha news template plugin is working! |
| 13:54 | fridolin1 | bravoooo |
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| 13:54 | fridolin1 | oleonard: do you know about authorities field 084 ? it looks like its obsolete in MARC21 |
| 13:54 | oleonard | Sorry I don't know :( |
| 13:54 | fridolin1 | https://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad01x09x.html |
| 13:55 | * oleonard | doesn't even know why his plugin is working now |
| 13:55 | fridolin1 | oleonard: thanks anyway |
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| 14:10 | mng1 | anyone in the room ? |
| 14:10 | Freddy_Enrique | yep |
| 14:10 | oleonard | Yes, do you have a question about Koha mng1 ? |
| 14:10 | Freddy_Enrique | Hi oleonard |
| 14:10 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 14:11 | Freddy_Enrique | I've got oe question as well :) |
| 14:11 | mng1 | Hi oleonard, development meeting is here ? |
| 14:12 | oleonard | My calendar says there is a general meeting in about 5 hours |
| 14:12 | Oh, but the wiki says there should be a dev meeting right now :D | |
| 14:12 | mng1 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_13_February_2019 says there is one right now |
| 14:13 | oleonard | We forgot the dev meeting which was postponed because we forgot it last time |
| 14:13 | magnuse | lulz |
| 14:13 | mng1 | :-D |
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| 14:13 | kidclamp | oh, sorry, was shoveling and lost track of time |
| 14:13 | do we have enough for a meeting? | |
| 14:14 | * magnuse | is around for 15 more minutes |
| 14:14 | ashimema | ack |
| 14:14 | oleonard | I guess we start the meeting and postpone again if there's not a quorum? |
| 14:14 | ashimema | I had it in my head for this evening |
| 14:14 | I'm here | |
| 14:15 | kidclamp | ashimema:, fridolin1 , jajm , cait , JesseM |
| 14:15 | oleonard | tcohen here? |
| 14:15 | kidclamp | alex_a_ |
| 14:15 | JesseM | Good morning! |
| 14:15 | fridolin1 | hi |
| 14:15 | * ashimema | pings tcohen |
| 14:15 | tcohen | hi |
| 14:16 | kidclamp | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019 |
| 14:16 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Feb 13 14:16:04 2019 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:16 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:16 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 14:16 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_february_2019' |
| 14:16 | kidclamp | khall |
| 14:16 | #topic Introductions | |
| 14:16 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 14:16 | tcohen | #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 14:16 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:16 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe |
| 14:16 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 14:16 | mng1 | #info Mengu Yazicioglu, Devinim Software, Turkey |
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| 14:16 | fridolin1 | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France |
| 14:16 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:16 | tcohen | hi JesseM |
| 14:17 | JesseM | Morning tcohen |
| 14:17 | oleonard | Oh hi Mengu, I didn't recognize your IRC nick! |
| 14:17 | mng1 | No problem oleonard |
| 14:17 | fridolin1 | mng1: nice to see u ;) |
| 14:17 | mng1 | nice to see you all ! |
| 14:18 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
| 14:18 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 14:18 | kidclamp | Happy Galentine's day! |
| 14:18 | anyone have anything to announce? | |
| 14:18 | * fridolin1 | wants to point Bug 22204 |
| 14:18 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22204 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, ASSIGNED , Leading spaces in barcode should not allowed in cataloguing |
| 14:19 | fridolin1 | dirty bug, we need controls and surely data validation |
| 14:19 | kidclamp | :+1 |
| 14:19 | oleonard | I would like to announce that I'm super excited about Bug 22318 and will be asking for help with some of the details |
| 14:19 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Extend Koha news feature to include other content areas |
| 14:19 | fridolin1 | any help is welcomed |
| 14:19 | kidclamp | #info frido champions bug 22204 |
| 14:19 | tcohen | fridolin1: we should allow having barcode filters using plugins |
| 14:20 | kidclamp | #info oleonard praises bug 22318 |
| 14:20 | only one bug will win! | |
| 14:20 | fridolin1 | tcohen: not force trim ? |
| 14:20 | its pointless to have spaces in a barcode since its used with a scanner no ? | |
| 14:20 | tcohen | I agree to trim |
| 14:20 | fridolin1 | and circulation does auto trim |
| 14:21 | should(can) it be forced in BD unique key ? | |
| 14:21 | kidclamp | Code39 does support spaces (just saying) |
| 14:21 | tcohen | but I've seen libraries that had (for historical reasons) wrong barcodes on hteir phisical materials, and being able to have filter rules through a plugin woul dbe great |
| 14:22 | fridolin1 | kidclamp: but leading or trailling ones ? |
| 14:22 | kidclamp | I don't think it cares |
| 14:22 | I am not arguing against you here, only mentioning | |
| 14:22 | fridolin1 | yep no pb ;) |
| 14:22 | magnuse | #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
| 14:22 | fridolin1 | ok so feel free to discuss/cc on bug |
| 14:23 | i will work on it when i can | |
| 14:23 | next | |
| 14:23 | kidclamp | moving on? |
| 14:23 | tcohen | can i |
| 14:24 | After we decided to create a /plublic namespace on the API for unprivileged access | |
| 14:24 | several bugs were filed to deal with existing endpoints, they are trivial, check if some needs attention so | |
| 14:25 | they can be pushed soon and we move forward | |
| 14:25 | ashimema++ for helping there | |
| 14:25 | * ashimema | walked a certain amount of that tree this morning doing SO/QA.. thanks tcohen for working on them to date |
| 14:25 | kidclamp | ashimema++ |
| 14:25 | fridolin1 | cool |
| 14:25 | kidclamp | tcohen++ |
| 14:26 | fridolin1 | Bug 22218 i think |
| 14:26 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22218 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Make endpoints not in /public require privileged credentials [OMNIBUS] |
| 14:27 | tcohen | I will add a test so no one adds unprivileged access endpoints outside /public |
| 14:28 | fridolin1 | tcohen++ |
| 14:28 | tcohen | qa tools? just t/ ? |
| 14:28 | fridolin1 | QA tools id say |
| 14:29 | kidclamp | #info tcohen is working on the public api endpoint and making sure all others are authenticated |
| 14:29 | #info please help keep those moving | |
| 14:29 | anyone else? | |
| 14:30 | #topic Update from the Release Manager (19.05) | |
| 14:30 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (19.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 14:30 | kidclamp | I am working on catching up to the queue and keeping things moving |
| 14:30 | some follows up have been filed since mana was pushed - please help work on those to polishg that before release | |
| 14:30 | is alex_a looking inot the searchign frido? | |
| 14:31 | fridolin1 | what ? |
| 14:31 | kidclamp | jenkins failures on D8 are due to versions I believe - do we need to do anythhing there tcohen? |
| 14:31 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:31 | kidclamp | bug 22222 |
| 14:31 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22222 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Mana subscription search always returns all results |
| 14:32 | fridolin1 | alex is on mana amoung other things yep |
| 14:32 | kidclamp | cool, thanks |
| 14:33 | I have been digging into ES again as we are testing in production, QA eyes on anything that comes through would be appreciated | |
| 14:33 | tcohen | fridolin1: if someone is willing to fix those failing tests, I volunteer to help reproduce the context in which they are run |
| 14:33 | kidclamp | API work is coming along nicely so just more kudos to tcohen and others for work there |
| 14:33 | tcohen | josef_moravec++ |
| 14:33 | ashimema++ | |
| 14:33 | khall++ | |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | that's all I have in my brain at the moment |
| 14:34 | #info praise to all for work on the API | |
| 14:34 | ashimema | I've been looking agian at ES stuff this morning.. but only jsut started |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | #info please keep ES bugs moving along, things are iimrpoving greatly |
| 14:34 | #info Mana needs followup work so that it is working well at release, please help there if able | |
| 14:34 | * ere_away | has been really busy but intends to attack some ES issues soon |
| 14:35 | * kidclamp | waves at ere_away |
| 14:35 | ere_away | hi kidclamp! |
| 14:35 | * ashimema | has recently reached out to ES to see if they fancy sending an expert to give tuition/talks at kohacon workshops |
| 14:35 | ashimema | also asked ere for any personal recommendations of people who might fit the bill there too.. hope you got my email ere |
| 14:35 | kidclamp | oh and before passing, jsut want to praise the maintainers too - ashimema has been backporting really useful stuff and jesse and lukeg are keeping up well :-) thanks to frido too for keeping 17.11 healthy |
| 14:36 | ashimema | aww. shucks |
| 14:36 | JesseM | thx kidclamp :) |
| 14:36 | ere | ashimema: Got it, but couldn't reply yet. Sorry! I don't know anyone, though.. |
| 14:37 | ashimema | keep 'em coming QA and SO people.. SO somehow feels a little slow at the moment to me.. but perhaps that's just perspective |
| 14:37 | no worries.. was an 'on the off chance' email.. | |
| 14:37 | all good.. i've reached out to a few peeps | |
| 14:37 | next? | |
| 14:37 | * oleonard | and his hoard of NSO patches thinks SO is slow ;) |
| 14:38 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 14:38 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 14:38 | kidclamp | you're up Mr Martin |
| 14:38 | ere | I'd like to attract attention to bug 13937 |
| 14:38 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13937 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Add an Elasticsearch-compatible Z39.50/SRU daemon that can inject item status MARC subfields |
| 14:38 | kidclamp | ere++ |
| 14:38 | ashimema | 18.11 is going nicely, aiming to freeze again on the 15th (though i've not touched base yet with 18.05 and 17.11 maintainers to check that works for everyone) |
| 14:39 | ere | I'm sure many would like this, as it's afaik the last obstacle to turning off Zebra |
| 14:39 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:39 | ere++ | |
| 14:40 | #info 18.11 ship is sailing well.. next string freeze aiming at the 15th for release on 22nd (pending other rmaints agreement) | |
| 14:40 | over to you JesseM | |
| 14:41 | fridolin1 | ere++ |
| 14:41 | JesseM | #info 18.05 everything is going awesome over here. |
| 14:41 | ashimema | anything to say fridolin1 |
| 14:42 | fridolin1 | yep |
| 14:42 | * fridolin1 | minising translation work on 17.11.x |
| 14:42 | ere | Another one that I'd like to get moving on (unrelated to ES) is bug 11529 |
| 14:42 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11529 normal, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Add subtitle, medium and part fields to biblio table |
| 14:42 | ere | The above helps avoid parsing MARC record all the time for subtitle, which should help e.g. load checkouts faster |
| 14:42 | fridolin1 | i think i will manage 17.11.x until april |
| 14:43 | last release with 19.05.x first release | |
| 14:43 | kidclamp | do you know what numebr that will be? |
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| 14:44 | fridolin1 | heuu |
| 14:44 | kidclamp: i'd say 17.11.18 will be last | |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | #info 17.11 finlar release will be 17.11.18, coinciding with release of 19.05 |
| 14:44 | thanks for keeping it up so long | |
| 14:44 | fridolin1 | i may set 2 month between 17.11.17 and .18 to be sure |
| 14:44 | i'm glad to | |
| 14:45 | dont hesitate to mail me for something you need in 17.11 before it ends ; | |
| 14:45 | ;) | |
| 14:45 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 14:45 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 14:45 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the QA Team |
| 14:46 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA Team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | oops |
| 14:46 | * fridolin1 | done |
| 14:46 | fridolin1 | you can go next |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | cait is in Miami? |
| 14:46 | ashimema | Nope |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | or just not here |
| 14:46 | ashimema | She's just in meetings allot today |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | cait says we are all the best and that she will do all the QA |
| 14:46 | ashimema | She's doing a great job sending her weekly emails |
| 14:47 | kidclamp | #info thanks for Cait for keeping up the emails and the team for following up on them |
| 14:47 | ashimema | But I think she's feeling a bit dispirited that not much of the stuff she's highlighting has got looked at much recently |
| 14:47 | * ashimema | has tried to get on the case there though, but would appreciate more QA team action 😉 |
| 14:47 | kidclamp | #info please read them and give attention to highlighted bugs |
| 14:47 | ashimema | Ta |
| 14:48 | kidclamp | the scuttlebutt is that Joubu returns soon too, I think we all miss his input |
| 14:48 | ashimema | She's trying hard to keep a reasonable mix of old bugs and new to keep the old stuff moving but also ensure new stuff no longer sits awaiting too long |
| 14:48 | Good balancing act cait | |
| 14:48 | kidclamp | cait++ |
| 14:48 | ashimema | cait++ |
| 14:49 | kidclamp | moving on? |
| 14:49 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | hithd |
| 14:50 | hi thd | |
| 14:50 | thd | hello |
| 14:50 | ashimema | go for it |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 14:50 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | tcohen |
| 14:50 | woops, didn't realize I was away | |
| 14:50 | tcohen | I am here |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]sion_endpoint_RFC Holds suspension endpoint RFC |
| 14:51 | tcohen | I proposed that |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | anyeone have any discussion of the endpoint? |
| 14:51 | tcohen | the idea which I raised this for |
| 14:51 | ashimema | it seemed sane to me.. enough that I actually already signed off the bug not realising it hadn't been voted yet |
| 14:52 | tcohen | is to highlight that some 'attributes' on a resource, should be considered resources themselves, thus hiding the internals of how a hold suspension is processed (internally) |
| 14:52 | and exposing a readable and understandable aPI | |
| 14:53 | ashimema | :+1: |
| 14:53 | tcohen | I also wanted to talk about /expanded |
| 14:53 | kidclamp | :+1 |
| 14:53 | tcohen | but didn't spend the time to add it to the agenda |
| 14:53 | he | |
| 14:53 | kidclamp | did you see cait's note too - suspension_date instead of expiration_date? |
| 14:54 | I think that makes sense | |
| 14:55 | ashimema | I actually prefer expiration_date myself |
| 14:56 | it's on an api route for 'suspensions' so the route gives the context | |
| 14:56 | tcohen | I prefer expiration_date, because we treat the suspension as a resource |
| 14:56 | thd | I am not certain that suspension_date conveys the expiration meaning. |
| 14:56 | ashimema | for me 'suspension_date' sounds like the date a suspension would start.. not end |
| 14:56 | thd | ashimema++ |
| 14:56 | ere | start_date .. end_date |
| 14:56 | ashimema | happy to comment as such in the RFC |
| 14:57 | tcohen | ere: agreed |
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| 14:58 | kidclamp | so - start_date .. end_date and we can vote? I am assuming start_date defaults to tday and end_date defaults to never? |
| 14:58 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:58 | do we use start_date/end_date anywhere else? | |
| 14:59 | possably/probably.. just be nice to be consistent | |
| 14:59 | * ashimema | runs off after puppy as he's just raided the shoe rack |
| 15:00 | puppy 0 : ashimeme 1 | |
| 15:00 | thd | I presume that context is always present for the endpoint use. |
| 15:00 | ashimema | should be |
| 15:01 | thd | ... Thus as long as the name is sufficiently descriptive the context for the descriptive aspect is known. |
| 15:01 | ashimema | yup |
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| 15:02 | thd | s/known/understood |
| 15:02 | kidclamp | in a real life meeting too atm |
| 15:02 | can you take the heml ashimema? | |
| 15:02 | ashimema | sure |
| 15:02 | kidclamp | #chair ashimema |
| 15:02 | huginn` | Current chairs: ashimema kidclamp |
| 15:03 | ashimema | so.. did we want to vote on start_date/end_date vs expiration_date vs suspension_date? |
| 15:04 | it feels like we've already made a decision but a vote would be good to ratify that.. | |
| 15:04 | tcohen? | |
| 15:04 | wahanui | i heard tcohen was the man you want to thank |
| 15:04 | oleonard | Thanks tcohen ;) |
| 15:06 | thd | tcohen: Do you find end_date to be a better fit? |
| 15:07 | tcohen | sorry |
| 15:07 | I'm in the middle of something else | |
| 15:07 | ashimema | happy to postpone this little conversation |
| 15:07 | thd | Is there any need to set start_date as an endpoint? |
| 15:08 | ashimema | I can see it being helpful should one want to select a particular period for the suspension ahead of time |
| 15:08 | like suspend it over a holiday period for example | |
| 15:08 | but.. I've not looked at the underlying suspension code so I'm not even sure the underlying feature supports that as yet? | |
| 15:09 | tcohen | POST /holds/:hold_id/suspension { expiration_date: '2019-02-15' } |
| 15:09 | ashimema | ack.. I have to go school run myself in 5 minutes |
| 15:09 | tcohen | POST /holds/:hold_id/suspension {} |
| 15:09 | ^^ indefinite suspension | |
| 15:09 | those are the two use cases in the code | |
| 15:10 | then | |
| 15:10 | DELETE /holds/:hold_id/suspension | |
| 15:10 | to resume the hold | |
| 15:10 | ashimema | so a suspention is active whilst it has an end_date |
| 15:10 | there's not check for a starting point of the suspension | |
| 15:10 | okies | |
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| 15:11 | ashimema | I like the idea of 'end_date' as it's nice and generic and would go better with 'start_date' if we choose to impliment such a feature down the line |
| 15:11 | ere | by the way, every other system treats suspension as an attribute/attribute set of the hold and doesn't have a separate endpoint for it. Why should it? |
| 15:11 | * ashimema | can't think of a antinyme for 'expiration_date' off the top of his head |
| 15:11 | ere | * system I know |
| 15:12 | ashimema | it's to allow for smaller api calls and clearer feature distinction ere |
| 15:12 | it's somewhat of a REST style/principle.. | |
| 15:13 | thd | tcohen: Would not the following seem better? POST /holds/:hold_id/suspension { end_date: '2019-02-15' } |
| 15:13 | ashimema | but.. there's not a clear hard reason to do it either way.. and not real hard reason to not allow for both either.. though I like consistency if we can myself. |
| 15:13 | ere | ashimema: It doesn't mean the API calls need to be massive. Like: PATCH { suspend_until: 'date' }. But yeah, no biggie. |
| 15:13 | ashimema | ack.. is there anyone here who could take over chairing? |
| 15:13 | I need to pop out on school run.. hadn't apreciated the time when i offered to take over from kidclamp | |
| 15:14 | oleonard | Let's shut it down |
| 15:14 | kidclamp | #chair oleonard |
| 15:14 | huginn` | Current chairs: ashimema kidclamp oleonard |
| 15:14 | kidclamp | :-) |
| 15:14 | ashimema | ta kidclamp.. that was about to be my next move |
| 15:14 | oleonard | :P |
| 15:14 | ashimema | back in 20 mins folks.. sorry |
| 15:14 | kidclamp | let's send an email about the endpoint as it seems we dont have consensus |
| 15:14 | ashimema | +1 |
| 15:15 | thd | We might have a consensus but tcohen is distracted :) |
| 15:15 | kidclamp | #info tabling Hold suspension - tcohen will send an email to get discussion |
| 15:15 | ere | sorry for messing with you, I just threw the ideas at you without much thinking and not intending to cause trouble.. :) |
| 15:15 | kidclamp | #topic Review of coding guidelines |
| 15:15 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 15:16 | kidclamp | #info Update PERL2 for special case from 22026 |
| 15:16 | bug 22026 | |
| 15:16 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jasmineamohia.student, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove `use Modern::Perl` from Koha::REST::classes |
| 15:16 | tcohen | I like ere's end_date too |
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| 15:18 | kidclamp | I think we don't have a qurorum to review this, table to next meeting? |
| 15:18 | and hope the calendar works then and we get a crowd :-) | |
| 15:23 | #info tabling coding guidelines until next meeting | |
| 15:24 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 15:24 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 15:25 | * ashimema | talks from the school gates |
| 15:25 | kidclamp | #info Next meeting: 27 February 2019, 19 UTC |
| 15:25 | ashimema | I'll make sure to add the meeting to the calendar as soon as we set it |
| 15:25 | kidclamp | #endmeeting |
| 15:25 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 15:25 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Feb 13 15:25:32 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:25 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-02-13-14.16.html | |
| 15:25 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-02-13-14.16.txt | |
| 15:25 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]13-14.16.log.html | |
| 15:25 | kidclamp | thanks all! sorry for losing attention at the end |
| 15:26 | fridolin1 | as usuall, thanks all for your work, your fantastik ! |
| 15:35 | oleonard | ashimema++ |
| 15:35 | kidclamp++ | |
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| 15:45 | oleonard | Hi khall and wizzyrea |
| 15:45 | khall | hi! |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | how we doin today |
| 15:48 | oleonard | y'all missed a thrilling-as-always dev meeting |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | hm, they're not so good when they're thrilling |
| 15:49 | oleonard | I got a bug 22318 proof of concept working, yay |
| 15:49 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Extend Koha news feature to include other content areas |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | I love the idea of that |
| 15:49 | oleonard | I'm unreasonably excited about it. |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | imma read the bug now |
| 15:52 | because I'e always always wanted a wordpress style plugin system | |
| 15:52 | er | |
| 15:52 | er | |
| 15:52 | I mean | |
| 15:52 | widget system | |
| 15:52 | lol I clicked your link and firefox was like NOPE YOU MUST RESTART NAO | |
| 15:52 | dopey | |
| 15:53 | oleonard | I'm peddling viruses didn't you know? |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 15:54 | I love it | |
| 15:54 | what if you could drag a news item to a little wireframe of the home page | |
| 15:54 | "display here" | |
| 15:55 | alexbuckley and I were talking about that before I left Catalyst | |
| 16:02 | is the koha-US meeting here? | |
| 16:03 | or is it on some weird proprietary thing | |
| 16:04 | oleonard | https://kslib.zoom.us/j/110290143 |
| 16:04 | Agenda: https://docs.google.com/docume[…]/edit?usp=sharing | |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | ohh thank you |
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| 16:09 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:35 | wizzyrea | hi cait |
| 16:40 | josef_moravec | evening #koha |
| 16:46 | oleonard | Hi josef_moravec |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 16:47 | wahanui | privet, wizzyrea |
| 16:56 | AndrewIsh | Any API auth people around? I'm experimenting with Basic Auth. Can anyone think why the Authorization header might not be getting grabbed in Auth.pm, $authorization_header is just coming ending up as undef, despite me definitely sending a valid header :-/ |
| 16:57 | tcohen: I notice you wrote the BASIC auth bit, did you encounter any problems? | |
| 16:57 | ashimema | How are you sending them AndrewIsh |
| 16:58 | AndrewIsh | As an HTTP request via Postman... |
| 16:58 | * AndrewIsh | wonders if ashimema thought I might be sending them via carrier pigeon |
| 16:58 | ashimema | Hmm, it worked when I tested it |
| 16:58 | Haha, nah | |
| 16:59 | But it could have been curl or mojo or... | |
| 16:59 | AndrewIsh | It could indeed, but, no, Postman |
| 16:59 | ashimema | For curl and mojo they do the header creation side for you as you out the parameters in the url |
| 17:00 | I tested using curl and the mojo tests written for the feature.. but I didn't test with postman | |
| 17:00 | I can try myself when I get back.. just on a school club run at the minute | |
| 17:00 | AndrewIsh | In Postman you just enter the creds and it constructs the header, but looking at what it's sending, it's correct. It's the same with curl |
| 17:00 | ashimema | It certainly should work |
| 17:00 | Did curl work? | |
| 17:01 | AndrewIsh | No |
| 17:01 | ashimema | Perhaps headers are getting stripped somewhere |
| 17:01 | The mojo tests go direct.. not via apache | |
| 17:01 | So it could perhaps be Apache related somehow | |
| 17:02 | AndrewIsh | The variable assignment of whatever is in the Authorization header is used for Bearer token auth too, so I'd expect it to be broken there too... |
| 17:03 | Hmmm, it could be Apache related, I'll do some quick Googling | |
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| 17:20 | AndrewIsh | ashimema: So, it does appear to be a problem in Apache (which is a bit worrying), this fix solves it: https://stackoverflow.com/a/26791450 Though I'm no closer to knowing why it's a problem in the first place |
| 17:29 | * cait | waves |
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| 17:47 | oleonard | I wonder if people use the ordering feature the language and opaclanguage system preferences have |
| 17:47 | * oleonard | always forgets it's there |
| 17:48 | wizzyrea | They do, but it's quite awkward for them |
| 17:49 | oleonard | I'm wondering if it can be accurately used to define what the "primary" language of the system is. |
| 17:52 | cait | you can order? |
| 17:53 | oleonard | " This list can be sorted to modify the order of the languages on the interface. " |
| 17:53 | (needs some UI tweaks to make that more visible) | |
| 17:53 | cait | always did that with sql... ugh |
| 17:54 | omg,.. you really can | |
| 17:54 | oleonard: are you working on this? | |
| 17:54 | could we get a space between language code and name? :) | |
| 17:54 | oleonard | I plan to work on this, yes |
| 17:56 | cait | :) |
| 18:01 | ashimema | That is truly odd AndrewIsh , glad you sorted it |
| 18:02 | Wonder if we aught to document that pian somewhere.. it certainly worked for me when I QA'd it.. the curl did go via Apache, I was careful to test that scenario rather than rely on the tests as I'd fallen down such a whole before | |
| 18:02 | Must be an aocge version or config difference somewhere between us | |
| 18:02 | Really really odd | |
| 18:03 | oleonard++ for all the awesome work on translatable blocks he's doing | |
| 18:03 | That's been on my long term hit list for literally years just waiting for a moment | |
| 18:04 | Tap me up for SO or QA when the time comes.. | |
| 18:07 | oleonard | Thanks I will :) |
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| 18:08 | cait | 19.05 is going to be awesome |
| 18:08 | always getting better an better :) | |
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| 18:13 | wizzyrea | as long as it still makes sense for screen readers and all that biz, I'm cool with whatever you do to make the interface MOAR FUN to customise. |
| 18:15 | cait | @later tell frido sorry, just saw you in the logs looking for me, meetings all day :( |
| 18:15 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:15 | cait | should tr yagain with fridolin |
| 18:15 | @later tell fridolin sorry, just saw you in the logs looking for me, meetings all day :( | |
| 18:15 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:15 | cait | and wonder when frido might get this |
| 18:20 | kidclamp++ :) | |
| 18:26 | ashimema | Lots of great little long standing bugs fixed thanks to cait++ |
| 18:27 | cait | ashimema++ for helping me get them through |
| 18:27 | ashimema: you overtook me on the dashboard again heh | |
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| 18:27 | cait | and why are we up to 65 agan? |
| 18:32 | ashimema | We are... |
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| 18:34 | ashimema | Impressive... |
| 18:35 | cait | just eating some more soup, then i will try to do some :) |
| 18:36 | ashimema | It's meeting in 20 mins isn't it |
| 18:38 | kidclamp | I have a concurrent meeting and have to grab the kid at half past, someone else to chair? |
| 18:39 | cait | ashimema: team up with me? |
| 18:39 | ashimema | I'm on bedtime duties so can't easily chair but was intending on attending |
| 18:40 | kidclamp | sorry Katrin :-( |
| 18:40 | cait | hm? |
| 18:40 | what did you do? | |
| 18:40 | using my real name on IRC! | |
| 18:40 | ;) | |
| 18:40 | i am here and no kids | |
| 18:40 | might just be nice to have someone help making info and such | |
| 18:41 | but Ill manage | |
| 18:46 | ashimema | I can try to help if you cochair me |
| 18:46 | But yeah, just wanted to make sure it didn't appear like I was ignoring everyone for no reason | |
| 18:48 | cait | we always thnk you are ignoring us if you stop talking ;) |
| 18:50 | josef_moravec: great new notice examples! josef_moravec++ | |
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| 18:58 | cait | meeting in 2 mins! |
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| 19:00 | cait | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 13 February 2019 |
| 19:00 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Feb 13 19:00:04 2019 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 19:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 19:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 19:00 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_13_february_2019' |
| 19:00 | cait | #introductions Please introduce yourself with #info! |
| 19:00 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany | |
| 19:00 | #chair ashimema | |
| 19:00 | huginn` | Current chairs: ashimema cait |
| 19:00 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 19:00 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 19:00 | half here | |
| 19:00 | cait | which half? |
| 19:01 | TGoat | #info tgoat |
| 19:01 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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| 19:01 | mng | #info Mengu Yazicioglu, Devinim, Turkey |
| 19:01 | TGoat | #info Todd Goatley |
| 19:01 | cait | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_13_February_2019 Today's agenda |
| 19:01 | speaking of which, there is nothing out of the ordinary | |
| 19:02 | so I expect a quick meeting | |
| 19:02 | if you have additional items oyu want to add to the agenda, please let me know | |
| 19:02 | moving on to the first topic | |
| 19:02 | #topic Announcements | |
| 19:02 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 19:02 | cait | anyone? :) |
| 19:03 | looking at the earlier meting today | |
| 19:03 | #info oleonard is excited to share his work on bug 22318 (extending news for other texts and making them translatble that way) | |
| 19:03 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Extend Koha news feature to include other content areas |
| 19:04 | oleonard | True. Patch almost ready! |
| 19:04 | davidnind | There are a few Koha events coming up that I've seen and posted on Twitter |
| 19:04 | cait | and our ES topic expert has one too |
| 19:04 | #info Looking for testers on bug 13937 which will enable use of elastic + z39.50 without the need to also run Zebra | |
| 19:04 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13937 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Add an Elasticsearch-compatible Z39.50/SRU daemon that can inject item status MARC subfields |
| 19:04 | davidnind | Swedish Koha User Group's 8th user meeting, 26-28 March, Skövde, Sweden https://koha.se/en/koha-i-sver[…]liotek-mellansjo/ |
| 19:05 | cait | thx davidnind! |
| 19:05 | #chair davidnind | |
| 19:05 | huginn` | Current chairs: ashimema cait davidnind |
| 19:05 | cait | can you please info yourself? |
| 19:05 | #info i mean | |
| 19:05 | oops | |
| 19:05 | davidnind | #info Swedish Koha User Group's 8th user meeting, 26-28 March, Skövde, Sweden https://koha.se/en/koha-i-sver[…]liotek-mellansjo/ |
| 19:06 | cait | th |
| 19:06 | x | |
| 19:06 | anything else? | |
| 19:06 | ok, moving on :) | |
| 19:06 | #topic Update on Releases | |
| 19:06 | Topic for #koha is now Update on Releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 19:06 | TGoat | #info koha-Us is currently taking proposals for koha-US annual conf |
| 19:06 | davidnind | #info KohaFerence 2019 21-22 March, Universidad de Cadiz https://2019.kohaference.es/ |
| 19:07 | cait | oh |
| 19:07 | sorry! | |
| 19:07 | TGoat | your good cait :) |
| 19:07 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 19:07 | cait | just in time |
| 19:07 | ashimema: update on releases is on | |
| 19:07 | ashimema | Sorry guys, got disconnected at the wrong moment there |
| 19:08 | cait | maybe something from me then first |
| 19:08 | ashimema | grr. |
| 19:09 | cait | i missed the meeting earlier :) |
| 19:09 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 19:09 | ashimema | my internet connection has now decied to be terrible |
| 19:09 | sorry | |
| 19:09 | kidclamp | Same things I sadi this mornign for me - trying to keep on the queue, ES and Mana need attention |
| 19:09 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 19:09 | cait | #info QA queue is getting lower, but bugs waiting for sign off is very high with 230 |
| 19:09 | ashimema | Update no releases.. so.. that's me |
| 19:10 | 18.11.x is going well, 18.11.02 is out in the wild and 18.11.03 is scheduled for the 22nd | |
| 19:10 | 15th will be string freeze as per the usual pattern | |
| 19:10 | cait | #info ES and Mana need attention so Mana is ready for 19.05 |
| 19:10 | ashimema: info! ;) | |
| 19:10 | #info 18.11x is going well, 18.11.02 has been released and 18.11.04 is scheduled for 22nd with string freeze on 15th | |
| 19:11 | ashimema | #info 18.11 series going well, 18.11.02 out in the wile, 18.11.03 scheduled for release on 22nd.. 15th for string freeze as per usual pattern.. |
| 19:11 | davidnind | cait is just too quick! |
| 19:11 | ashimema | ack |
| 19:11 | sorry cait | |
| 19:11 | cait | heh |
| 19:11 | mng | SOs will be encourage for new developers to community. Please sing off :) |
| 19:11 | * ashimema | is struggling for internet.. for some reason I'm getting messages all at once.. then none for a while.. so appologies if I come out of order. |
| 19:11 | cait | mng: do you have a specific one? |
| 19:12 | davidnind | From dev meeting looks like 17.11 will no longer be maintained when 19.05 comes out |
| 19:12 | mng | Bug 20208, 20817, 21887 and 21879 |
| 19:12 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kohadevinim, Needs Signoff , Development - Peddie School - Custom file upload paths |
| 19:12 | cait | i also have a thing... I think we need 18.11 manuals up on pootle |
| 19:13 | 18.11 is first to ship without help files that could be transltaed before, so there is a real need for those | |
| 19:13 | #info please help encourage new devs - 20208, 20817, 21887 and 21879 | |
| 19:14 | mng | thanks cait |
| 19:14 | cait | always :) |
| 19:14 | you can pay me in chickpeas ;) | |
| 19:14 | mng | sure ;) |
| 19:14 | davidnind | 1#info Koha 17.11 will no longer be maintained when 19.05 is released |
| 19:14 | #info Koha 17.11 will no longer be maintained when 19.05 is released | |
| 19:14 | ashimema | 17.11.18 will be the final version number |
| 19:15 | if that helps | |
| 19:15 | davidnind | fridolin++ for maintaining |
| 19:15 | cait | #info 18.11 manual files are much needed on Pootle |
| 19:15 | ashimema | as for manual translations.. shall we get tcohen to poke the translations people.. he has more direct contact than the rest of us. |
| 19:16 | davidnind | #info Koha 17.11.18 will be the final release |
| 19:17 | cait | tcohen: ? |
| 19:17 | tcohen | hi |
| 19:17 | wahanui | niihau, tcohen |
| 19:18 | tcohen | is indradg willing to take over? |
| 19:18 | ashimema | could you poke bernardo for manual translation files |
| 19:18 | cait | and a swedish one plese |
| 19:18 | * ashimema | didn't get a reply from either of them when he tried to get more of a handle on translations |
| 19:18 | cait | not sure if he is here tonight (indradg) |
| 19:18 | same for me sadly :( | |
| 19:18 | i had asked for the 18.11 so we could start too a few weeks ago | |
| 19:19 | and a longer time ago swedish manual was requested | |
| 19:19 | tcohen | he's not answering |
| 19:19 | ashimema | the manual page exists on pootle now.. some he's been working on it since I last asked |
| 19:19 | davidnind | #action 18.11 manual needs added/updated to Pootle for translation |
| 19:19 | ashimema | but there are no file yet |
| 19:19 | tcohen | he might have personal issues, but we need a solution |
| 19:20 | as a community | |
| 19:20 | ashimema | does anyone outside of the two current translations managers know the proceeedures? |
| 19:20 | I'd be happy to lend a hand.. though I already have too much on my plate really.. but I have no idea how that area all fits together right now | |
| 19:21 | cait | we could check with some people who have been TM before |
| 19:21 | ashimema | does rangi or gmcharlt know perhaps? |
| 19:22 | cait | rangi was TM |
| 19:22 | and fredericd too | |
| 19:22 | i think all infrastructure is in argentina currently | |
| 19:22 | gmcharlt | ashimema: I'm afraid I have no specific knowledge of it |
| 19:22 | cait | not sure if we could get access |
| 19:22 | or better to set up new one | |
| 19:22 | ashimema | want me to reach out further.. perhaps just adding some documentation pages on existing workflows and things might help for the future of the role |
| 19:22 | tcohen | cait: we of course have access to it |
| 19:23 | cait | bernardo has some scripts that i don't know if accessible somewhere |
| 19:23 | tcohen | everything is there |
| 19:23 | ashimema | i really like rmaint and rm wiki pages.. we need similar for translations manager I reckon |
| 19:23 | a clear process for the day to day of the role | |
| 19:23 | cait | or not sure if it's pootle even - like using one version as a base to populate strings in another |
| 19:24 | but to get going again we mostly need someone able to generate the files i guess? | |
| 19:25 | * ashimema | is happy to volunteer to touch base with rangi or anyone else to try and get things moving a bit again |
| 19:25 | davidnind | Details for https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]tration#translate.koha-community.org maybe not up-to-date? |
| 19:25 | cait | that would be great |
| 19:26 | ashimema | #info ashimema will reach out to some prior TM's for advice and try to get things moving again |
| 19:26 | cait | #info tcohen to coordinate with ashimema |
| 19:26 | sorry, phone, br | |
| 19:26 | b | |
| 19:26 | tcohen | yes m'am |
| 19:26 | :-P | |
| 19:26 | ashimema | :) |
| 19:27 | davidnind | #action Add/update pages on wiki on translation processes (like release maintainer pages) |
| 19:27 | #info Some information on translation sever is here https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ranslation_Server | |
| 19:28 | anything more on releases? | |
| 19:28 | ashimema | good call davidnind.. I hadn't found that one |
| 19:29 | right | |
| 19:29 | what's next | |
| 19:29 | davidnind | #topic KohaCon 2019 update |
| 19:29 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2019 update (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 19:29 | ashimema | brill.. I was about to ask if it was that |
| 19:29 | * ashimema | digs furiously to find his notes |
| 19:29 | davidnind | There was an update posted on the mailing list https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]ruary/052262.html |
| 19:30 | ashimema | #info there was a KohaCon19 email to the lists with an update. |
| 19:30 | cait | thx all |
| 19:30 | ashimema | #link https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]ruary/052262.html |
| 19:31 | the email covered more than I could really say here.. but please ask any questions if you have any | |
| 19:31 | I've got more of a view of whats going on on that front again now | |
| 19:32 | #info If anyone has any perl or elasticsearch contacts, preferably not directly related to koha, that might like to come and offer some training or do a talk at the workshops part of the event please let me know | |
| 19:33 | also.. I'll be reaching out to various people to see if they might be able to offer assistance with certain sessions.. | |
| 19:33 | the idea behind rebranding the 'hackfest' as 'workshops' is that we'd like to get more librarians to attend that part of the conference and lend a hand with signoff, translations and 'sit with a developer' sessions.. | |
| 19:34 | afterall.. koha is all about the users (to steal a phrase from kidclamp) | |
| 19:34 | so.. we wanted to offer some 'Hands on with X' sessions to entice a few more to stay too | |
| 19:34 | I think that's the sprawling update from me. | |
| 19:35 | did we mostly cover 'general' already? | |
| 19:35 | cait ? | |
| 19:35 | wahanui | it has been said that cait is qa manager |
| 19:35 | cait | sec |
| 19:35 | davidnind | thanks ashimema! |
| 19:35 | ashimema | :) |
| 19:35 | cait | i guess, between announcements and reelase |
| 19:35 | TGoat | we're going to use your rebranding for our koha-US conference |
| 19:36 | workshops is not and threatening and we're hoping for a bigger turnout | |
| 19:37 | davidnind | great! |
| 19:37 | ashimema | brill, sounds great TGoat |
| 19:37 | davidnind | #topic General business |
| 19:37 | Topic for #koha is now General business (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 19:37 | davidnind | Any other general business anyone wants to add? |
| 19:37 | TGoat | bigger turnout for the hackfest .. hrrhmm .. workshop :) |
| 19:37 | ashimema | :) |
| 19:38 | davidnind | Otherwise we can go to the next topic - setting the next meeting date |
| 19:38 | ashimema | nothing extra from me here. |
| 19:39 | davidnind | #topic Next meeting |
| 19:39 | Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 13 February 2019) | |
| 19:40 | davidnind | 6 March 2019 14:00 UTC? (last meeting was at 14:00) |
| 19:40 | ashimema | haha.. I was about to make the same suggestion |
| 19:41 | * ashimema | was digging through the callendar too |
| 19:41 | ashimema | +1 from me |
| 19:41 | mng | +1 |
| 19:41 | davidnind | #info Next meeting 6 March 2019 14:00 UTC |
| 19:41 | #endmeeting | |
| 19:41 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 19:41 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Feb 13 19:41:52 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:41 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-02-13-19.00.html | |
| 19:41 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-02-13-19.00.txt | |
| 19:41 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]13-19.00.log.html | |
| 19:42 | davidnind | thanks everyone! |
| 19:42 | cait | davidnind++ ashimema++ |
| 19:43 | davidnind | Have fun for the rest of your day/night evening/morning! I'm off to work now... :-( |
| 19:43 | cait++ | |
| 19:43 | TGoat | cait++ |
| 19:43 | ashimema | added it straight to the koha calender now |
| 19:43 | done | |
| 19:43 | night all | |
| 19:43 | cait++ | |
| 19:44 | davidnind | ashimema++ |
| 19:44 | ashimema | davidnind++ |
| 19:44 | TGoat | peace! |
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| 19:44 | mng | good night all |
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| 19:54 | cait | sorry for disappearing... got no kids, but parents! :) |
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| 20:01 | cait | hi andreashm :) |
| 20:02 | andreashm | hi cait! |
| 20:02 | cait | still night-shifting? |
| 20:02 | andreashm | yup! =) |
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