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| 07:28 | davidnind | If the status of a bug is currently 'Needs Signoff' and the patch doesn't work, what do I change the status to when I add my comments? |
| 07:28 | calire | davidnind failed QA |
| 07:28 | or does not apply | |
| 07:28 | if it doesn't apply... | |
| 07:30 | davidnind | thanks calire! |
| 07:31 | in this case it does apply, but it doesn't do what it is supposed to do - I thought failed QA was for the QA team... | |
| 07:31 | calire | so did I, but I was told to use it if it doesn't work |
| 07:31 | I still find it scary | |
| 07:31 | :) | |
| 07:32 | worst case teh developer will check and change it back to needs signoff | |
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| 07:33 | calire | there is no 'failed sign off' option and if it doesn't work then it wouldn't pass QA, I guess that would be my logic |
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| 07:35 | davidnind | your logic makes sense! (feeling a bit mean for failing something, but I guess it is all part of learning and the benefit of someone else looking at things!) |
| 07:35 | calire | I feel mean too |
| 07:36 | Maybe we could get it clarified | |
| 07:37 | davidnind | it's probably in the developer guide - I haven't looked though! :-D |
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| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:42 | davidnind | It's covered here on the wiki https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 07:42 | Makes better sense now! | |
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| 07:43 | calire | ah cool! I was looking and hadn't found that page yet :D |
| 07:44 | davidnind | too much documentation! :) |
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| 08:04 | ashimema | Anyone can fail QA, only QA team can pass it |
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| 08:05 | ashimema | Little known thing, QA team can on occasion skip signoff if the patch is sufficiently simple and unlikely to case debate too. 😉 |
| 08:06 | fridolin | hi |
| 08:06 | ashimema | S/case/cause/ |
| 08:06 | Morning fridolins. | |
| 08:07 | fridolin | morning ;) |
| 08:07 | ashimema | Oh pants.. I forgot to send the string freeze email last night.. better wrattle one off now |
| 08:07 | fridolin | i'm on no_coffee_yet error ;) |
| 08:08 | cait | ashimema: should be an exception tho |
| 08:08 | btw... i really need help with those open source academy patches | |
| 08:08 | those kids are crazy fast. | |
| 08:12 | davidnind | working through things that need sign-off from today (I've only done 1 of 7 so far though...) |
| 08:13 | ashimema | Done |
| 08:14 | I'm on that this morning Cait.. devoting the morning to it before going back to work woke stuff 😆 | |
| 08:14 | School run first though.. looks minging out there | |
| 08:14 | cait | ashimema: hm no strings to translate yet |
| 08:14 | ashimema++ thx | |
| 08:14 | i have a list if you need it | |
| 08:14 | super foggy here right now | |
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| 08:22 | matts | hi |
| 08:22 | wahanui | hi, matts |
| 08:22 | calire | hi matts |
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| 09:39 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #137: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/137/ |
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| 10:46 | eythian | hi |
| 10:46 | wahanui | bonjour, eythian |
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| 11:36 | josef_moravec | ashimema: around? |
| 11:36 | ashimema | hi |
| 11:36 | josef_moravec | hi ashimema |
| 11:37 | do you know what is the difference between recalls and holds here? bug 19532 | |
| 11:37 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Recalls for Koha |
| 11:37 | ashimema | oh.. phone.. brb |
| 11:37 | * ashimema | will try to multitask if you wanted to ask something go ahead |
| 11:37 | josef_moravec | ashimema: it could wait ;) |
| 11:57 | cait | some easy qa? I got some really nice ones! |
| 12:01 | ashimema | lol.. that bug is a long story |
| 12:01 | will pm you josef | |
| 12:01 | cait | josef_moravec: calire put a new rfc on the wiki a few days ago |
| 12:03 | * ashimema | was about to dig that out |
| 12:03 | josef_moravec | https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Recall_RFC |
| 12:10 | The use case of this RFC does make sense to me, but I think it should be enhancement of holds funcionality... which is not the case of bug | |
| 12:10 | bug 19532 | |
| 12:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Recalls for Koha |
| 12:11 | josef_moravec | And I don't like the old_recalls table ;) |
| 12:15 | ashimema | right.. sorry.. |
| 12:15 | back now.. that call for more invovled than I expected | |
| 12:16 | so yeah.. basically the existing bug doesn't really do what the majority of people in the wider world seem to think of as recalls.. bywater, ptfs-e and bsz included at least. | |
| 12:16 | so.. bsz have written an RFC to try and cover and explain our use case and then one of us is aiming to write an alternative on an entirely new bug | |
| 12:17 | then.. i want to come back to that bug and see how we might achieve their needs atop this new bug | |
| 12:17 | that's all a rough outline at this point though.. it's about finding funding and time now really on our side.. | |
| 12:18 | but the bug as it stands I beleive has really reached a stalemate | |
| 12:21 | josef_moravec | thank you ashimema! I think I would have testers if there will be something new, but yes, looks like it needs to start again with this... |
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| 12:26 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 12:45 | calire | ashimema++ |
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| 13:35 | * oleonard | offers to donate blood to splitter.koha-community.org |
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| 13:49 | oleonard | I don't think the patch on Bug 20679 does what the bug asks for, does it cait? |
| 13:49 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20679 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove 'rows per page' from reports print layout |
| 13:50 | oleonard | davidnind++ |
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| 13:55 | cait | oleonard: you are reading my mind |
| 13:55 | i was going to ask you to look | |
| 13:55 | I think maybe they didn't know they could jsut do it with css? | |
| 13:55 | could you give some pointers maybe? | |
| 13:55 | oleonard | Sure |
| 13:57 | cait | oleonard++ # thx for the screenshot :) |
| 13:57 | probably my fault, i tried to explain which i liked better - they took that more literally | |
| 14:01 | caroline | good morning everyone! |
| 14:01 | cait | good morning caroline :) |
| 14:08 | ashimema | next meeting |
| 14:08 | next meeting? | |
| 14:08 | meeting? | |
| 14:08 | grr.. huggin | |
| 14:08 | I'm sure that used to work | |
| 14:08 | caroline | ashimema: in 5 hours |
| 14:08 | cait | next meetings? |
| 14:08 | it seems the bot has amnesia | |
| 14:09 | @karma | |
| 14:09 | huginn | cait: Highest karma: "Joubu" (731), "cait" (661), and "tcohen" (383). Lowest karma: "-" (-48), "failed" (-41), and "ie" (-38). You (cait) are ranked 2 out of 906. |
| 14:09 | cait | ok... not completely |
| 14:09 | ashimema | oh.. my twitter bots keeps piping up that it's in an hour |
| 14:09 | cait | it's possible, we moved the general one by a week |
| 14:09 | caroline | :/ In the calendar it's at 2pm here (and it is now 9am) |
| 14:09 | calire | there are 2 today |
| 14:10 | cait | wahanui: Next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 14:10 | wahanui | OK, cait. |
| 14:10 | cait | wahanui: Next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 14:10 | wahanui | OK, cait. |
| 14:10 | ashimema | https://www.timeanddate.com/wo[…]iso=20190116T1400 |
| 14:10 | caroline | oh, well there you go! The General is not in the calendar |
| 14:10 | ashimema | oh.. I had it as 2pm UTC |
| 14:10 | cait | k, it's now |
| 14:10 | shoud we have the meeting now? | |
| 14:11 | caroline | why not |
| 14:11 | ashimema | lol |
| 14:11 | no wonder I was confused | |
| 14:11 | cait | ping kidclamp fridolin |
| 14:11 | ashimema | feel free.. kidclamp is around.. even if he is hiding |
| 14:11 | ;) | |
| 14:11 | cait | who else coudl we stir up? |
| 14:11 | heh | |
| 14:11 | ashimema | AndrewIsh |
| 14:11 | wahanui | well, AndrewIsh is ready and waiting to jump on QA comments :) |
| 14:11 | cait | #startmeeting General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019 |
| 14:11 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jan 16 14:11:51 2019 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:11 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:11 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 14:11 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019' |
| 14:12 | kidclamp | huh what? |
| 14:12 | meeting now? | |
| 14:12 | cait | #topic Introductions |
| 14:12 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 14:12 | cait | please introduce yourself with #info |
| 14:12 | it#s the one we postponed last week | |
| 14:12 | ashimema | we forgot the general meeting... again ;) |
| 14:12 | caroline | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Canada |
| 14:12 | cait | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_16_January_2019 Agenda |
| 14:12 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:12 | thanks cait | |
| 14:12 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 14:12 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:12 | AndrewIsh | #info Andrew Isherwood, PTFS Europe |
| 14:13 | ashimema | :) |
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| 14:14 | cait | #chair ashimema |
| 14:14 | huginn | Current chairs: ashimema cait |
| 14:14 | calire | #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:14 | * fridolin | buzy sorry |
| 14:14 | fridolin | nothing new for RM 17.11 |
| 14:16 | ashimema | shall we move onto announcements |
| 14:16 | kidclamp | yes |
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| 14:17 | ashimema | erm. |
| 14:17 | did kc.org just go down or is it just me | |
| 14:18 | cait | sorry phone |
| 14:18 | kidclamp | chair me cait>/ |
| 14:19 | please | |
| 14:19 | ashimema | #topic Announcements |
| 14:19 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 14:19 | ashimema | #chair kidclamp |
| 14:19 | huginn | Current chairs: ashimema cait kidclamp |
| 14:19 | * ashimema | was looking up meetbot commands.. i don't do this often enough |
| 14:19 | cait | sorry, got a phone call (great news for a change) |
| 14:19 | ashimema | Nothing to announce from here.. got anything kidclamp? |
| 14:20 | oh.. | |
| 14:20 | request for speakers is out for kohacon19 | |
| 14:20 | kidclamp | ^ that |
| 14:20 | cait | i got something |
| 14:21 | ashimema | #link https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon19/ Kohacon19 site is up |
| 14:21 | #info Kohacon19 call for speakers is out | |
| 14:22 | go cait | |
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| 14:23 | cait | oh sorry |
| 14:23 | there was a bit of a behind the scenes discussion about the KohaCon schedule I think - be aware it's not the usual format | |
| 14:23 | but waht i wanted to say is: | |
| 14:23 | #info Open Source Academy at Catalyst this week | |
| 14:23 | please sign off and qa on the student's patches | |
| 14:24 | they were super busy and have fixed a lot of things, usually easy to look at - I think it would mean a lot to them if we can manage to have one pushed of each at least | |
| 14:24 | 6 students :) | |
| 14:25 | caroline | We have 4 interns that do mandatory community work on friday afternoons. would that be too late? |
| 14:25 | cait | caroline: don't stop them, but probably a little too late |
| 14:25 | lukeg joined #koha | |
| 14:25 | cait | because of the time difference |
| 14:26 | woudl still be great | |
| 14:26 | caroline | ok, if there are any left, i'll let them know, otherwise, they will just S/O as usual |
| 14:26 | ashimema | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Catalyst_Academy academy |
| 14:26 | cait | but ideall we should push them tomorrow (looks at kidclamp) |
| 14:26 | * kidclamp | will update on my turn :-) |
| 14:27 | ashimema | shall we move on? |
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| 14:27 | cait | yep |
| 14:27 | ashimema | #topic Update on releases |
| 14:27 | cait | if you need pointers for the bugs, find me :) |
| 14:27 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 14:28 | ashimema | lol.. the order in the agenda is funny |
| 14:28 | #info 18.11.x we're all set for 18.11.02 release on 22nd. | |
| 14:28 | kidclamp | JesseM: lukeg |
| 14:28 | ashimema | #info 18.11.x is currently in string freeze |
| 14:29 | that's all from me.. | |
| 14:29 | 20 bugfixes.. so it's a little light.. but understandable as it includes a chunk of the post christmas period | |
| 14:30 | either that or 18.11.x is remarkably bug free.. hehe :) | |
| 14:30 | JesseM | hi sry im here |
| 14:30 | cait | i am doing a presentation on it next week |
| 14:30 | will tell you after ;) | |
| 14:30 | probably the best test to find the most impossible things | |
| 14:30 | ashimema | anything you want to update us on regarding 18.05.x rmaint? |
| 14:30 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater |
| 14:31 | Nothing really. Just moving along nicely | |
| 14:31 | ashimema | 23 bugfixes currently in 18.05.x for next remaint release :) |
| 14:31 | JesseM | Yes. Release is next week |
| 14:32 | ashimema | #info 18.05.x rmaint going steady, also aiming for next release on 22nd |
| 14:32 | and frido had to duck out.. but it's all a similar story | |
| 14:32 | #info 9 bugfixes for 17.11.x.. on target for 22nd. | |
| 14:32 | right.. | |
| 14:32 | cait | |
| 14:33 | cait | yes? |
| 14:33 | ashimema | your up next on the agenda |
| 14:33 | cait | ok :) |
| 14:33 | ashimema | #topic Website |
| 14:33 | Topic for #koha is now Website (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 14:33 | kidclamp | hey, what about me? |
| 14:33 | ashimema | all yours |
| 14:33 | cait | oh |
| 14:33 | thought it was QA :) | |
| 14:33 | Ok, so before christmas I updated the website a bit | |
| 14:34 | on the front page we have | |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | I didn't update on next release |
| 14:34 | cait | #link https://koha-community.org/ |
| 14:34 | Introducing Koha 18.05 Try it now | |
| 14:34 | so that link is currently broken (oops) but it links to the demo site | |
| 14:34 | and when I looked at the demos... I realized we don't have a lot of 18.11 there | |
| 14:34 | ashimema | oh.. sorry kidclamp |
| 14:35 | cait | or even 18.05 |
| 14:35 | and from the list you can't tell | |
| 14:35 | i think only 3 out of those have 18.11 | |
| 14:35 | tamil, orex and admin kuhn | |
| 14:36 | * ashimema | gets confused between dev and general meeting agenda's.. so was following the wiki closely.. no qa section on that |
| 14:36 | cait | I was wondering if we shoudl add the version to the listings |
| 14:36 | ashimema | though I did miss the 'next release' section entirely.. oops |
| 14:36 | cait | because it might be really confusing for people |
| 14:36 | ashimema | version on the listings would be good in my opinion |
| 14:37 | cait | more people have website accounts now, so i think we could keep it updated |
| 14:37 | ashimema | though.. I don't know how often it wuold get updated |
| 14:37 | cait | if people let us know when they update |
| 14:37 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:37 | cait | wecould also sort the newer versions on top, then alphabetic maybe? |
| 14:37 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:37 | caroline | um... trying to look at the page but it's blank... is it because we're all on it at the same time? |
| 14:37 | cait | I have no perfect solution - but it seems like something we could improve |
| 14:37 | caroline: the link is strange, add / at the end | |
| 14:38 | or got to the demo page from nav, needs fixing | |
| 14:38 | caroline | ok! works with th / at the end! thx cait! |
| 14:38 | ashimema | for me kc.org is down |
| 14:38 | 500 errors.. with either url | |
| 14:38 | JesseM | Can we add the latest group photo from kohacon2018? |
| 14:39 | cait | i guess we could |
| 14:39 | JesseM | :) |
| 14:39 | cait | maybe woudl be good to get it from the photographer - i am German, always worried about rights :) |
| 14:39 | https://koha-community.org/ doesn't work? | |
| 14:39 | https://koha-community.org/demo/ works for me | |
| 14:40 | ashimema | nope.. for me everything 500 errors |
| 14:40 | JesseM | cait I will email the photo to you |
| 14:40 | caroline | could you add the / to the link under "try it now" while you're there too? |
| 14:41 | cait | sorry, can't login right now, not before tonight, maybe one of the others can fix it now? |
| 14:42 | all rmaints and rm have accoutns at least | |
| 14:42 | but i can volunteer to add the version if that's ok with people | |
| 14:42 | and maybe remove if one is not working at all ? | |
| 14:43 | everyone so quiet | |
| 14:43 | vote? veto? :) | |
| 14:44 | caroline | everything you say makes sense! we have nothing to add :) |
| 14:44 | cait | just something I wouldn't want to change without proposing it formally first :) |
| 14:45 | ashimema | understood.. |
| 14:45 | cait | #action cait volunteers to add version column to demo website listing, resort by version, alphabetic, comment non-working |
| 14:46 | commen out... | |
| 14:46 | move on? | |
| 14:47 | caroline | and the link? |
| 14:47 | wahanui | the link is, like, strange, add / at the end |
| 14:47 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:47 | cait | if it's still broken, i will fix it too :) |
| 14:47 | caroline | wahanui: exactly! XD |
| 14:47 | wahanui | caroline: sorry... |
| 14:47 | ashimema | kidclamp want to step in and update us about 19.05 progress |
| 14:47 | sorry for missing you first time around | |
| 14:48 | kidclamp | heh - things are going well so far, catching some bugs and pushign enw things as I can |
| 14:48 | accounts work has progressed nicely | |
| 14:48 | thank you all for all the hlep | |
| 14:48 | ashimema | kidclamp++ |
| 14:48 | kidclamp | I am testing Mana currently with an eye toward pushing asap |
| 14:48 | ashimema | `It includes 30 enhancements, 56 bugfixes.` |
| 14:49 | kidclamp | if anyone else wants to take a look or has comments please let me know, I really want this in this cycle and early so we can test |
| 14:49 | caroline | mana++! |
| 14:49 | JesseM | mana++ |
| 14:49 | ashimema | is there a public mana server out there to test against? |
| 14:49 | kidclamp | once I verify nothing breaks and feature does what it says I will feel satisfied |
| 14:50 | https://mana-kb.koha-community.org/ | |
| 14:50 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | all info is on the bug |
| 14:50 | ashimema | ta |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | holding off on pushing other things until I work through this |
| 14:50 | JesseM | bug17047 |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | but will get to acadaemy and bugs asap |
| 14:51 | bug 17047 | |
| 14:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Passed QA , Mana Knowledge Base : share data |
| 14:51 | cait | I've been trying to get into ILL patches, will continue asap |
| 14:52 | ashimema | cait++ |
| 14:53 | kidclamp | that's all for me at the moment |
| 14:53 | oh, bug 18736 | |
| 14:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18736 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Problems in order calculations (rounding errors) |
| 14:53 | kidclamp | I updated this, could use some eyes and opinions |
| 14:56 | moving on? | |
| 14:57 | ashimema | yeah |
| 14:59 | #topic Kohacon19 Update | |
| 14:59 | Topic for #koha is now Kohacon19 Update (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 14:59 | ashimema | we sorta did that i the announcement |
| 14:59 | I don't have anything to add | |
| 14:59 | caroline | yoohoo! Kohacon! |
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| 14:59 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, Bywater |
| 15:00 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 15:00 | cait | I think it would be nice to get regular updates during th emeeting sas we have done in the past |
| 15:00 | I think the change in format hit us a bit unexpectedly | |
| 15:01 | caroline | what is the new format? |
| 15:02 | cait | it's not 3-1-3 |
| 15:02 | but somehoe 4+1, but not sure how the hackfest and conf parts split | |
| 15:03 | ashimema | I'm not party to the conversations now |
| 15:03 | caroline | it says parallel, so conf at the same time as hackfest maybe? and you choose which one you want to go |
| 15:03 | cait | #link https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/KV7BGKT |
| 15:04 | ashimema | but last I was I 'think' the idea was midday monday -> midday wednesday for conference |
| 15:04 | then midday wednesday -> thursday afternoon workshops | |
| 15:04 | then friday being the off day | |
| 15:06 | calire | perhaps we just ask if we can have an update at the next meeting :) |
| 15:06 | caroline | +1 |
| 15:07 | cait | +1 |
| 15:07 | ashimema | +1 |
| 15:07 | cait | moving on? |
| 15:08 | kidclamp | +1 |
| 15:09 | ashimema | go for it |
| 15:10 | * ashimema | has to scarper for school run |
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| 15:11 | ashimema | being that kohacon is eu this time.. I imagine a preference for working hours uk/ireland if we want them to attent the next meeting.. sorry |
| 15:11 | * ashimema | runs to car |
| 15:12 | calire left #koha | |
| 15:12 | kidclamp | #topic Next meeting |
| 15:12 | Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 15:13 | kidclamp | February 13, 19 UTC? |
| 15:13 | caroline | is that good for uk? a bit late maybe? |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | 19's not a terrible hour |
| 15:14 | also hi | |
| 15:14 | caroline | ok |
| 15:15 | whatever is good with me, I just wanted to make sure, as ashimema said to have a time where dublin ppl can be here | |
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| 15:18 | caroline | I would suggest 14utc |
| 15:19 | kidclamp | sorry, was ion another meeting |
| 15:19 | I think we try to go between 11 and 20 roughyl caroline, alternating | |
| 15:19 | this one is on the earlier so next should be later | |
| 15:19 | caroline | ok no problem! |
| 15:19 | kidclamp | so NZ can at least think about attending without waking up at ungodly hours |
| 15:21 | #info Next meeting: 13 February 2019, 19 UTC | |
| 15:21 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:21 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 15:21 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jan 16 15:21:17 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:21 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-01-16-14.11.html | |
| 15:21 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-01-16-14.11.txt | |
| 15:21 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]16-14.11.log.html | |
| 15:21 | kidclamp | Ah, i see now carloine |
| 15:21 | perhaps we can poke them for email update at least | |
| 15:21 | sorry ashimema | |
| 15:22 | ashimema | No worries |
| 15:22 | Sorry, was driving | |
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| 15:42 | * oleonard | would very much have preferred being at this meeting than the one he was at instead |
| 15:48 | eythian | I have four days of this week with no meetings at all. I'm getting so much done. |
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| 16:03 | vero | users with more loans by type of category, as I generate the report from sql, thank you very much |
| 16:03 | oleonard | vero did you check this page? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 16:05 | cait: You do updates to the web site? | |
| 16:08 | ashimema | she can |
| 16:08 | I can too.. if only I can access it.. I still get 500 errors | |
| 16:08 | I think there's a load balancer or something out there that doesn't like me | |
| 16:08 | wow | |
| 16:09 | even going via a vpn.. the front page works.. but other pages still 500 | |
| 16:09 | odd | |
| 16:10 | oleonard | I would like to send someone a replacement version of that image on the front page. The one which is there is way too big. |
| 16:19 | cait | oleonard: JesseM suggested using the one from portland |
| 16:19 | could i forward that to you for optimization before i put it on? | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | Sure |
| 16:25 | cait | oleonard++ |
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| 16:41 | magnuse | gah, missed the meeting |
| 16:41 | i'd like to take the last patch off bug 8437 and create a separate bug for it - are there any rules about doing things like that? apart from keeping the atrribution to the patch author, of course? | |
| 16:41 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8437 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Large database backups and large exports from export.pl fail under plack |
| 16:42 | oleonard | It's the wild west out here magnuse, you make your own rules |
| 16:43 | magnuse | yeeeehaaaw! |
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| 17:01 | Ve | Users with more loans, in sql, Thanks |
| 17:02 | I can not find it in the report library | |
| 17:06 | magnuse | Ve: what do you mean by "more loans"? |
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| 17:10 | Ve | loans |
| 17:11 | cantidad de préstamos de los usuarios | |
| 17:23 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:23 | hh | I try to run a report and it comes out in my browser. The connection has been restarted. Is the server problem? Thank you |
| 18:54 | Dyrcona joined #koha | |
| 18:56 | cait | meeting in 5 |
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| 18:59 | ashimema | I've sent my apologies on the agenda but will send them here and now too.. afraid I've just walked into a school meeting. |
| 18:59 | cait | oops |
| 18:59 | ashimema | Rmaint update from me would be much the same as the one I gave for the general meeting earlier today |
| 19:00 | cait | noted |
| 19:01 | JesseM | Me too ;) |
| 19:02 | cait | so noone is here? :) |
| 19:02 | or let's ask differently, wh ocan attend the meeting? | |
| 19:02 | caroline joined #koha | |
| 19:02 | cait | caroline, meeting? :) |
| 19:03 | caroline | ah! sorry! I'm in training :( |
| 19:03 | cait | n oworries |
| 19:03 | it seems everyone is somewhere else | |
| 19:03 | kidclamp | I am here |
| 19:03 | cait | w ewill have the meeting if at least 5 people are here |
| 19:03 | ok, now we are 2 | |
| 19:03 | kidclamp | khall? |
| 19:03 | wahanui | i heard khall was here :) |
| 19:04 | davidnind | I'm here.. |
| 19:04 | cait | 3 |
| 19:04 | rangi: ? | |
| 19:04 | khall | here |
| 19:05 | cait | 4 |
| 19:06 | really.. that's all | |
| 19:06 | = | |
| 19:06 | ? | |
| 19:06 | we should use that chance and rename Koha | |
| 19:06 | or do something else fun | |
| 19:07 | davidnind | hehe |
| 19:07 | JesseM | Im here :) |
| 19:07 | kidclamp | that's 5 |
| 19:07 | cait | ok .. |
| 19:07 | kidclamp: do you want to start? | |
| 19:07 | i will take over | |
| 19:08 | kidclamp | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019 |
| 19:08 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jan 16 19:08:11 2019 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 19:08 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 19:08 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:08 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019' |
| 19:08 | kidclamp | #chair cait |
| 19:08 | huginn | Current chairs: cait kidclamp |
| 19:08 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
| 19:08 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:08 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 19:08 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater, USA |
| 19:08 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 19:09 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 19:09 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 19:09 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
| 19:09 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:10 | cait | QA and sign off academy patches! |
| 19:10 | kidclamp | Kohacon 2019 call for proposals is open |
| 19:11 | #info Academy ish papneing, please sign off and QA patches | |
| 19:11 | JesseM | Rmaint 18.05.x is going great! |
| 19:11 | kidclamp | #info KohaCon 2019 call for proposals open |
| 19:12 | #link https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon19/ KohaCon2019 website | |
| 19:12 | #topic Updates from Release Manager (19.05) | |
| 19:12 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from Release Manager (19.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:12 | kidclamp | I am working on testing Mana and providing feedback to Alex - I want to push this early so appreciate any other eyes before I do so :-) |
| 19:13 | Will hold off on pushing while I test but wil ctach up to bugs and academy asd soon as I can | |
| 19:13 | Thanks to all for their hard work, accounts and other things moving along nicely | |
| 19:13 | koha++ | |
| 19:13 | Alll for me | |
| 19:13 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 19:13 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:14 | kamar joined #koha | |
| 19:14 | kamar | Hello everyone |
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| 19:15 | kidclamp | #info 18.11 is coming alon, see notes form Koha meeting this morning |
| 19:15 | kamar | I need to know if Koha can be install on Ubuntu Live ser |
| 19:15 | kidclamp | #info 18.05 is going great |
| 19:15 | JesseM | Working hard to keep up with Martin. :) But things are going great with 18.05.x |
| 19:15 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the QA team |
| 19:15 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:15 | cait | kamar: yes, koha is fine on ubuntu. we are currently in a meeting, can you ask later? |
| 19:16 | kidclamp | cait, all yours |
| 19:16 | cait | ah |
| 19:16 | sec | |
| 19:16 | josef_moravec | #info Josef Moravec |
| 19:16 | sorry being late | |
| 19:16 | cait | so, we got the bad bugs down from 20 to 16 currently, but the queue is pretty full - 100 |
| 19:16 | kamar | I need to know if Koha can be install on Ubuntu Live server |
| 19:17 | cait | 70 2 days ago... so calling out to the QA team to help fix that :) |
| 19:17 | 38 of those are bugs, so it would be good to take of those for the upcoming maintenance releases | |
| 19:17 | kidclamp | #info the queue is growing, please help with bugs especially for maintenance releases |
| 19:18 | cait | we've got quite a bit of ILL and Elastic patches waiting too - anyone willing to help there is also welcome. Second sign offs are often good too - they make us more confident |
| 19:18 | kidclamp | #info ES and ILL patches need attention as well |
| 19:18 | cait | hm and recently SIP activity too |
| 19:19 | need someone for SIP :) | |
| 19:19 | that's it from me | |
| 19:19 | * kidclamp | *cough* ashimema *cough* khall *cough* |
| 19:19 | kidclamp | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 19:19 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:19 | khall | can do kidclamp , just remind me ;) |
| 19:20 | kidclamp | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]word_endpoint_RFC REST API - Public route to change patron's password |
| 19:20 | tcohen has asked for a vote | |
| 19:20 | any questions? | |
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| 19:21 | cait | i was thinking password_2 might be confusing |
| 19:21 | maybe password_repeated? | |
| 19:21 | does it make sense anyway to ask for it twice? | |
| 19:21 | aleisha_ | thanks davidnind for testing so many academy patches! |
| 19:21 | khall | that's what I was thinking |
| 19:21 | cait | we can't really tell how the GUI will implment |
| 19:21 | khall | confirming the password twice is a front-end process |
| 19:22 | cait | yeah |
| 19:22 | kidclamp | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22061 |
| 19:22 | huginn | Bug 22061: enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, tomascohen, Signed Off , Public route to change password |
| 19:22 | cait | i am fine with the old, it might make things easier |
| 19:22 | leave koha to verify | |
| 19:22 | khall | I think it's fine to have both there as well. It could make the form data directly pass-through |
| 19:23 | cait | both = p1 and p1 or old and new? |
| 19:23 | khall | new twice |
| 19:23 | we can't require the old password because it may be for a 'forgot your password' system | |
| 19:23 | josef_moravec | I am for repeated new password too,, we can't relly on client implementations... |
| 19:24 | cait | but they can jus copy it? |
| 19:24 | khall | cait: yeah, that was my point too |
| 19:24 | but in the end it does no harm | |
| 19:24 | cait | maybe mostly a question of what is required |
| 19:24 | i think the old password might be a good point | |
| 19:25 | if it's a password forget process | |
| 19:25 | forgotten | |
| 19:25 | this is a little trickier than I expected :) | |
| 19:25 | josef_moravec | and also, if we have new password twice, clients implementation could be simpler... |
| 19:25 | kidclamp | I think firget would be a separate process |
| 19:25 | josef_moravec | yes, i think so too |
| 19:26 | and Koha should care about it not, some api consumer... | |
| 19:26 | cait | are we ok with password_2 or should we rename? |
| 19:26 | * khall | has no strong opinion |
| 19:27 | cait | it made it sound like a separate passwrod to me |
| 19:27 | * josef_moravec | has no strong opinion too |
| 19:27 | cait | th efirst... the second |
| 19:27 | kidclamp | I don't mind either way |
| 19:27 | cait | that's why i thought password_repeat might be more speaking |
| 19:27 | but I am ok with keeping it too or let tcohen decide | |
| 19:28 | kidclamp | description makes it clear I think |
| 19:28 | okay, vote and mention that as a note? | |
| 19:28 | davidnind | make it more meaningful, sounds like naming something document 1, document 2 <-- not that I know anything about naming these things! |
| 19:30 | kidclamp | Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]word_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? |
| 19:30 | I have to run, just trying to phrase | |
| 19:30 | I support it for the the record | |
| 19:30 | bye | |
| 19:31 | cait | sec |
| 19:31 | takig over | |
| 19:31 | but my hand fell asleep heh | |
| 19:31 | harder to type | |
| 19:32 | #startvote Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]word_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? (yes,no,abstain) | |
| 19:32 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]word_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 19:32 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 19:32 | davidnind | too much QAing!:) |
| 19:32 | cait | #vote yes |
| 19:32 | more lying on the couch with the laptop :) | |
| 19:32 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 19:32 | josef_moravec | #vote yes |
| 19:32 | JesseM | #vote yes |
| 19:33 | cait | ending vote... last chance |
| 19:33 | #endvote | |
| 19:33 | huginn | Voted on "Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]word_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated?" Results are |
| 19:33 | yes (4): davidnind, cait, JesseM, josef_moravec | |
| 19:33 | cait | ok |
| 19:33 | anything more for general development? | |
| 19:33 | moving on! | |
| 19:34 | #topic Review of coding guidelines | |
| 19:34 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:34 | cait | I suspect tcohen here too |
| 19:35 | josef_moravec | tcohen++ |
| 19:36 | cait | it seems a bit incompleate - at least swagger 4 |
| 19:36 | hard to tell for me... but I generally trust tcohen | |
| 19:36 | should we vote? | |
| 19:37 | davidnind | I'd say yes |
| 19:38 | josef_moravec | the proposed rules does make sense to me, and are not too complicated ;) but it would be great to have these things explicitaly written |
| 19:38 | cait | #startvote Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 19:38 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 19:38 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 19:38 | cait | #vote yes |
| 19:39 | trustng the experts (including josef_moravec) | |
| 19:39 | josef_moravec | #vote yes |
| 19:39 | khall | #vote yes |
| 19:39 | davidnind | #vote yes |
| 19:39 | JesseM | #vote yes |
| 19:39 | cait | nice |
| 19:39 | davidnind | what cait said :) |
| 19:39 | cait | ending vote... last chance |
| 19:39 | #endvote | |
| 19:39 | huginn | Voted on "Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki?" Results are |
| 19:39 | yes (5): davidnind, cait, JesseM, josef_moravec, khall | |
| 19:39 | cait | great, now i want to see thatmoving forward :) |
| 19:39 | issomeone aware of when the next meeting should be? | |
| 19:40 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 19:40 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019) | |
| 19:41 | cait | it looks ike we had 2 in december... and 2 in november |
| 19:41 | so every 2 weeks i guess | |
| 19:41 | January 30 | |
| 19:41 | 14 UTC? | |
| 19:42 | josef_moravec | could be |
| 19:42 | cait | #info Next meeting: 30 January 2019, 14 UTC |
| 19:42 | #endmeeting | |
| 19:42 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 19:42 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jan 16 19:42:30 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:42 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-01-16-19.08.html | |
| 19:42 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-01-16-19.08.txt | |
| 19:42 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]16-19.08.log.html | |
| 19:42 | cait | thx all |
| 19:42 | davidnind | cait++ |
| 19:42 | cait | @later tell tcohen please read the meeting logs for some discussion abotu the endpoint |
| 19:42 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:43 | JesseM | Night! |
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| 21:10 | * cait | waves to the academy students |
| 21:10 | cait | great job |
| 21:11 | helene | Thanks:) |
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| 21:11 | * jasmine | says thank you!! |
| 21:14 | cait | one tiny thing: if you submit a patch, please assign yourself the bug in the "Assignee" field :) |
| 21:14 | i've fixed all I came across - but might have missed one. And you are so fast making more | |
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| 21:36 | magnuse | academy++ helene++ |
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| 21:44 | vero | at the moment of generating a report, the connection has been restarted, it indicates the browser that I must solve, thanks |
| 21:53 | cait | that's all from me for today - good night :) |
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| 22:05 | vero | at the moment of generating a report, the connection has been restarted, it indicates the browser that I must solve, thanks |
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| 22:29 | aleisha_ | cait thanks for the reminder about assigning - we'll try to keep on top of that so you don't have to! |
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| 23:31 | oleonard | Hi again #koha |
| 23:31 | caroline1 | oh hello oleonard! |
| 23:32 | it's rare you're on this late! | |
| 23:32 | oleonard | Yeah, just felt like popping in to see if anything was going on |
| 23:33 | caroline1 | it's been pretty quiet afaik |
| 23:46 | tallerjoy | HI |
| 23:46 | * tallerjoy | shake it up a bit |
| 23:52 | oleonard | Hi tallerjoy, long time no see |
| 23:52 | tallerjoy | yah. i need to put the irc back into 'auto start' on this pc |
| 23:52 | oleonard | You disappeared into the Slackiverse didn't you |
| 23:53 | tallerjoy | yes. <not a fan> |
| 23:53 | oleonard | But ~~* emojis *~~ |
| 23:54 | tallerjoy | hmmm.... |
| 23:54 | ok | |
| 23:55 | slack feels like the mcdonald's play area of IRC | |
| 23:55 | caroline1 | tallerjoy: lol! |
| 23:56 | * oleonard | reminds tallerjoy to put her shoes in the cubby before getting on Slack |
| 23:56 | tallerjoy | ha! |
| 23:57 | i am curious how many "person hours" are spent in slack searching for gifs to share via the giphy app. | |
| 23:57 | so better productivity with communication balanced by less productivity goofing off | |
| 23:57 | <but the giphys are fun> |
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