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| 00:00 | mtompset | However, I do like the idea of some sort of cronjob that could possibly check synchronously the validity of mobile numbers, and block accordingly. |
| 00:04 | wizzyrea | yeah, I was wondering if we even *can* know |
| 00:04 | alexbuckley | yeah |
| 00:04 | wizzyrea | where does the failure notice end up? |
| 00:04 | email? | |
| 00:05 | some web interface with an API? | |
| 00:05 | who knows lol | |
| 00:06 | mtompset | wizzyrea, That's the problem... I'm not sure there is a way to know. |
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| 00:55 | mtompset | Actually, this is why perhaps a "verify" button might be handy. |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | it looks like they mark as failed as the database - I'm not sure how it knows but they do fail there. |
| 00:56 | mtompset | you shouldn't be able to add a number without an intentional verify. |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | yeah I like those lil systems that send a text with a number to verify the phone |
| 00:56 | mtompset | so, sure save the mobile number, but mark it as "unverified". |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | i *feel* secure. it's probably not really but MY FEELINGS MATTER DAMMIT |
| 00:58 | mtompset | Give the user a way to enter a code to verify the number, and then sending to unverified numbers won't happen. |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | (until they change SIM cards because $reasons) |
| 00:58 | (phone numbers are often recycled) | |
| 00:59 | mtompset | OH! They use them like toilet paper there too? |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | yeah :) |
| 00:59 | mtompset | It was so frustrating having my Filipino friends changing their numbers so frequently. |
| 01:00 | I've started seeing the move towards that here in Canada now, but a lot slower. | |
| 02:06 | Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea alexbuckley Joubu | |
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| 06:11 | calire | mornin' #koha |
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| 06:30 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:49 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 06:51 | matts | hi! |
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| 07:40 | fridolin | hi there |
| 07:40 | wahanui | salut, fridolin |
| 07:40 | fridolin | salut à toi ;) |
| 07:41 | calire | hi fridolin |
| 07:41 | hey matts | |
| 07:41 | and alex_a o/ | |
| 07:41 | * calire | goes back to sleep |
| 07:42 | fridolin | calire: i'd like tooooo |
| 07:43 | calire | fridolin https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e3/3[…]homer-simpson.jpg |
| 07:43 | fridolin | yep something like than |
| 07:43 | :-D | |
| 07:43 | calire | I am playing with jquery to keep myself awake XD |
| 07:44 | josef_moravec | morning #Koha |
| 07:45 | calire | hi josef_moravec |
| 07:45 | josef_moravec | hi calire |
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| 07:50 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:50 | josef_moravec | hi marcelr |
| 07:50 | marcelr | o/ |
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| 08:15 | paxed | is there a list of number of attendees in each kohacon? |
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| 09:18 | * andreashm | waves |
| 09:28 | calire | hi andreashm |
| 09:28 | andreashm | hey calire |
| 09:28 | back at work? | |
| 09:29 | calire | yeah D: |
| 09:29 | physically at least. Maybe not mentally | |
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| 09:44 | andreashm | calire: haha, I know the feeling |
| 09:46 | * andreashm | is trying to understand why a hold isn't filled when the book is checked-in. |
| 09:47 | andreashm | there is a hold, it should be filled. nothing happens. I delete the hold, add it again. same thing happens. very weird, never seen that before. |
| 09:48 | oh, and I can't recreate on our test servers. fun. | |
| 09:48 | * andreashm | wants to go back to bed. |
| 09:48 | goes out for lunch instead | |
| 09:51 | calire | :( |
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| 11:23 | Guest752 | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #62: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/62/ |
| 11:28 | ashimema | woopie |
| 11:31 | Guest752 | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #62: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/62/ |
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| 11:34 | magnuse | oleonard: no, it doesnæt look like "no holds allowed" is enough to keep a book off the "holds to pull" |
| 11:35 | oleonard | Weird. |
| 11:35 | And hi. | |
| 11:35 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 11:35 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 11:44 | Guest752 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #63: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/63/ |
| 11:45 | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #63: UNSTABLE in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/63/ | |
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| 11:57 | Guest752 | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #63: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/63/ |
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| 12:03 | ashimema | odd |
| 12:15 | marcelr | git grep basketnoes ? |
| 12:21 | cait | noes?:) |
| 12:21 | marcelr | right |
| 12:21 | cait | bug 20896 |
| 12:21 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20896 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Move serial enumeration to the right of callnumber on staff detail page |
| 12:24 | Guest752 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #64: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/64/ |
| 12:24 | cait | @later tell mtompset thx! |
| 12:24 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:25 | Guest752 | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 12:25 | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #64: FIXED in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/64/ | |
| 12:25 | ashimema | ok.. that was another properly random one :( |
| 12:25 | all I did we re-run the build and it worked | |
| 12:25 | hmm | |
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| 12:39 | marcelr | bug 21337 and bug 21336 ready to go ! |
| 12:39 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Patrons->delete (trivial wrapper) |
| 12:39 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21336 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , GDPR: Process unsubscribe requests automatically | |
| 12:40 | magnuse | cait around? |
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| 12:50 | magnuse | oleonard: the trouble is when you have one reference copy and one ordinary copy on the same record, and koha sees the reference one as "available for loan" |
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| 12:53 | magnuse | ah, bug 13640 |
| 12:53 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13640 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds To Pull List includes items unreserveable items |
| 12:53 | magnuse | we are not alone |
| 13:01 | oleonard | 👽 |
| 13:14 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 13:19 | oleonard | Hi caroline_ |
| 13:19 | caroline_ | Hi oleonard! |
| 13:19 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 13:21 | tcohen | hi |
| 13:21 | wahanui | bonjour, tcohen |
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| 13:45 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 20656: (RM follow-up) Add missing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a0eaf1e7313ff77d> |
| 13:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20819: (RM follow-up) Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1bb2492ddcbcedc30> | |
| 13:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20819: DBRev 18.06.00.031 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f89658af8ee9755cd> | |
| 13:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 21374: Fix self registration verification <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d764d92143f850d76> | |
| 13:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20656: (follow-up) Don't display title for F or FU fines (it is in description) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7374aded10ff4a7ed> | |
| 13:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Db rev for new table patron_consent and sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4b9b9adc078048245> | |
| 13:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Add consent to self-registration process <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ac726f17d6a19d866> | |
| 13:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Add check in get_template_and_user to enforce GDPR <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]872a136de6e6aa349> | |
| 13:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Add Koha object classes for patron consents <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]77361011d7cc2705a> | |
| 13:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 20819: Add your consents tab to opac-user <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b69512728fce9f9fd> | |
| 13:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 20656: Better formatting for print summary <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c1cd4d4b2d501be34> | |
| 13:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 20656: Don't print lines that have no balance on print summary <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f162ad0c0f2428eb4> | |
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| 14:15 | Guest752 | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #559: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/559/ |
| 14:15 | ashimema | how often is schema.koha-community.org updated? |
| 14:17 | Guest752 | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #47: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/47/ |
| 14:23 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #53: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/53/ | |
| 14:34 | cait | ashimema: i am not sure, but rangi can update it i think |
| 14:34 | ashimema | I kinda assumed it was scripted |
| 14:35 | appears not.. looks like the master branch wasn't updated for a long time | |
| 14:36 | barton | Joubu: you're right about sharing the imported file. |
| 14:37 | Guest752 | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #65: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/65/ |
| 14:38 | cait | maybe it's broken |
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| 14:41 | Guest752 | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:41 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #65: FIXED in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/65/ | |
| 15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:05 | Guest752 | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #64: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/64/ |
| 15:10 | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #87: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/87/ | |
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| 15:46 | Joubu | Hi #koha |
| 15:47 | kidclamp: on 20656 you html escaped a $Price output, it should not be needed (FYI) | |
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| 16:34 | kidclamp | thanks Joubu |
| 16:34 | are you planning to add the filter check to the qa tools? | |
| 16:39 | Joubu | kidclamp: I would like to avoid to duplicate the code |
| 16:40 | maybe the QA script could run the test file from the Koha xt dir (?) | |
| 16:40 | kidclamp | that would be good |
| 16:41 | just somethign to catch it earlier - i don't want to fail patches for it, but I also want devs to know to do it | |
| 16:41 | (and I don't want to do it - lazy) | |
| 16:46 | Joubu | I will have a look |
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| 16:54 | caroline_ | oleonard: can anything go into a modal? |
| 16:55 | oleonard | caroline_: It gets complicated if you want to do multi-page operations in a modal. What did you have in mind? |
| 16:56 | caroline_ | a client asked to be able to change item information from the orderreceive.pl page withtout have to leave the page |
| 16:57 | especially for the barcode as they add it upon receiving the item | |
| 16:58 | I was thinking maybe a "quick edit" option for the elements that are in the table, like click on the value to modify | |
| 16:58 | Joubu | outch, that does not sound trivial :) |
| 16:58 | caroline_ | no? I wouldn't know. You're all magicians as far as I know :) |
| 16:58 | oleonard | No, not trivial to do inline editing of individual fields. |
| 16:58 | But off the top of my head that seems fairly doable in a modal. I don't want to make any promises though. | |
| 16:58 | caroline_ | and if we open a modal with the item form inside? |
| 17:01 | oleonard | You can use a modal in such a way that it loads just a certain element on a page, so the modal could load just the edit from from the additem page |
| 17:02 | Joubu | IIRC the item form does not edit the item, just add it |
| 17:02 | and actually it does not insert it in the DB | |
| 17:02 | (maybe I am wrong) | |
| 17:03 | oleonard | I think we're talking about items which have already been created, aren't we caroline_ ? |
| 17:03 | caroline_ | yes, they are created during the order, but they want to modify on receiving |
| 17:04 | Joubu | yes, so the existing form cannot be reused |
| 17:04 | caroline_ | but when we click on "edit" it's the same form no? |
| 17:05 | oleonard | Joubu: But we may be able to use additem.pl since the item already exists |
| 17:05 | caroline_ | the link under the "Edit" link is this cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?op=edititem&biblionumber=10&itemnumber=8&popup=1#edititem and it goes directly to modify the item |
| 17:06 | oleonard | ...and that link only behaves that way if AcqCreateItem == 'ordering' |
| 17:06 | Joubu | additem.pl should not be called from an ajax request |
| 17:07 | caroline_ | since their version, at least the link was changed to open in a new tab, so it's better imo |
| 17:21 | tcohen | hola |
| 17:21 | caroline_ | hi tcohen! |
| 17:21 | tcohen | hola caroline_! |
| 17:29 | caroline_ | Oh, I just reread their message and they want that on parcel.pl not orderreceive.pl |
| 17:40 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 17:40 | oleonard | Hi cait |
| 17:40 | Surviving your jet lag I hope? | |
| 17:41 | cait | kind of - i think you said hi yesterday and i just replied to that... |
| 17:41 | trying to stay awake to a normal sleep time, but it's so hard | |
| 17:41 | * cait | waves at Joubu and caroline_ |
| 17:41 | caroline_ | Hi cait! |
| 17:41 | oleonard | I accept an unlimited number of greetings at all times of day |
| 17:44 | cait | :) |
| 17:44 | missing you all | |
| 17:44 | caroline_ | Joubu and oleonard, do you think something like this would be possible? (I just pasted this together with gimp) https://snag.gy/IEn3wr.jpg |
| 17:50 | cait | hm ... there is no prog theme in 17.11... isn't there? |
| 17:50 | looking at mailing list emails | |
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| 17:51 | caroline_ | I have prog in my master |
| 17:51 | ashimema | You'd need it in a modal to allow for multiple items I reckon caroline_ |
| 17:51 | cait | ah for opac |
| 17:51 | sorry, was not specific | |
| 17:51 | caroline_ | yes for opacfallback i have prog, maybe it's inherited when you upgrade? |
| 17:52 | ashimema: I was thinking keeping the "Receive?" checkbox and unfolding the form for modifying when the checkbox is checked | |
| 17:52 | of course this is all theoretical as I am not a dev | |
| 17:54 | ashimema | Sounds like a nice little project caroline_ , have fun |
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| 17:54 | caroline_ | hehe, I hope my colleagues are as positive as you ;) |
| 17:56 | cait | :) |
| 17:56 | caroline_: just wondering if it really does anything still - i think we removed the prog files behind | |
| 17:57 | caroline_ | ah, I don't know if it does anything, but the option is there |
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| 18:56 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 19:10 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 19:12 | caroline_ | hi andreashm! |
| 19:13 | andreashm | hi caroline_! |
| 19:13 | cait | hi andreashm |
| 19:13 | andreashm | hey cait! |
| 19:14 | * andreashm | is struggling a bit with staying awke. falling asleep every time Ive put the kids to bed since coming home doesn't help. =) |
| 19:14 | andreashm | awake |
| 19:14 | cait | i know what you mean... |
| 19:15 | andreashm | Interestingly, one of my colleagues hasn't suffered from jet-lag at all since coming back. While me and my other coworker are like zombies. |
| 19:15 | cait | unfair :) |
| 19:18 | * kidclamp | suggests waking up very early and going for a run :-) not the most fun, but helpful |
| 19:19 | bag | we here just don’t sleep :P |
| 19:20 | andreashm | that's one way of doing it. |
| 19:32 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 19:32 | bag | magnuse: HI |
| 19:32 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 19:33 | * magnuse | pokes bug 13498 with a stick |
| 19:33 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13498 minor, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'email' templates used for printing slips |
| 19:38 | caroline_ | any librarians around? I'm looking for the subfield order for MARC records (normally it is not necessarily alphabetical, like 245anphb) |
| 19:50 | According to http://www.loc.gov/marc/96principl.html, "the order of subfields is specified by content standards, e.g., cataloging rules." But I've been looking in RDA and I can't find definite order prescriptions | |
| 19:51 | andreashm | magnuse: oh, that one. |
| 19:52 | caroline_: what fields are you thinking of? | |
| 19:54 | caroline_ | all of them (I know specifically that subject subdivisions are not vxyz), ideally I'd like a list of all the fields and their prescribed subfield order |
| 19:56 | andreashm | caroline_: ouch. that I don't know. |
| 19:57 | caroline_ | I think only hardcore catalogers know :/ I was hoping there was some sort of documentation regular catalogers referred to when in doubt |
| 19:58 | in Sweden, do you use MARC21 or UNIMARC or another one? | |
| 19:58 | kidclamp | have a nice night all! |
| 19:58 | andreashm | https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ ? |
| 19:58 | caroline_: we use MARC21 | |
| 19:59 | sort of anyway | |
| 19:59 | caroline_ | that's where I usually look (or the canadian version www.marc21.ca) but they say its prescribed in cataloguing rules, not MARC *sigh* |
| 20:00 | andreashm | (small changes) |
| 20:02 | caroline_: to bad | |
| 20:02 | caroline_ | I'll ask around. I know I have hardcore catalogers among my clients ;) |
| 20:03 | like really hardcore, like cataloguing is their life ;) | |
| 20:06 | andreashm | haha |
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| 20:40 | caroline_ | good evening everyone! |
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| 21:20 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 21:22 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 21:22 | i had a phone call today - they were looking for the conference website for 2018 | |
| 21:22 | coudl we link to it directly from the website? | |
| 21:23 | it now goes to the wiki page with the proposals and people don't spot the conference website link there | |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | sure, that's fine |
| 21:24 | cait | https://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/ |
| 21:26 | i think i can't stay awake longer | |
| 21:27 | goo dnight all :) | |
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