IRC log for #koha, 2018-01-11

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03:17 mtompset If Archive::Extract should be 0.80 (as in Debian stretch) and not 0.72 (as in Debian Jessie), who do I talk to about packaging that up?
03:18 I triggered can not dup STDIN warnings in the plack-error log when running a prove -r t
03:19 I cpan2deb'd it over the core module and it works quietly now in jessie.
03:19 Anyways... probably not the best solution, but thought I'd write it down somewhere at least. :)
03:20 Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha.
03:20 rangi probably better to upgrade to stretch, since stretch is the LTS ... rather than enabling people to stay on jessie longer as it wont be supported
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07:12 magnuse ~~~
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07:42 reiveune hello
07:42 wahanui niihau, reiveune
07:42 alex_a bonjour
07:42 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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07:43 fridolin hi
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07:47 marcelr hi #koha
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08:23 gaetan_B hello
08:46 clrh hello
08:46 wahanui hey, clrh
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10:14 magnuse bonjour clrh & gaetan_B
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10:22 saa how to restore biblio and items which are bymistake deleted
10:22 we can these items and biblio in database
10:22 is it possible to retrieve this record with items back
10:42 can we get help
10:42 one of our biblio has 1746 items attached
10:42 when we search  by any barcode
10:42 it does not show
11:04 we need help
11:11 our catalogue search is not showing items in biblio
11:12 but these items are there in the database
11:12 total items attached are 1745
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11:20 saa we have in one biblio more than 1745 item types attached
11:20 we are not able to search this record
11:20 wht could be the reason
11:41 * kidclamp clamp clamp clamp
11:41 kidclamp saa - there is a size limit for records in zebra
11:42 eythian there shouldn't be with marcxml, should there?
11:42 or is it just that it's much larger?
11:42 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15399
11:42 huginn Bug 15399: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARCXML records larger than 1 MB (1048576 bytes) are not searchable.
11:42 eythian ah
11:42 that still beats 99,999 bytes I guess.
11:43 kidclamp depending on how searchable you need the items to be you can add a record with no items that links to the one with many items
11:47 saa wht could be done now
11:47 can u help
11:47 to easily create new record and dump those remaining items to new record
11:47 so that all items are searchable
11:50 is it now possible to split these items into two records in one go
12:13 kidclamp you could export the record, split it in marcedit, them import again, I think that's the eaisest way
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13:01 oleonard Good morning all
13:02 marcelr hi oleonard
13:02 wahanui hi dear loon
13:03 * cait waves
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13:11 magnuse ~~~
13:12 oleonard magnuse: Is that you waving?
13:13 * oleonard ~~~o/~~~
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13:13 * oleonard ~~~^~~~o//~~~~
13:20 LibraryClaire o/~
13:20 * LibraryClaire is tired
13:20 * cait is confused
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13:22 cait kidclamp: around?
13:22 * Joubu is warm
13:22 kidclamp nope, definitely not
13:22 cait heh
13:32 magnuse oleonard: yes, those are waves :-)
13:36 * oleonard assigns the Catalyst Academy all the sign-offs
13:42 magnuse w00t!
13:43 * oleonard doesn't think saying it means it will happen
13:43 * LibraryClaire will sweep up thel eftovers after tehy are done :)
13:43 LibraryClaire and also learn to type
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13:50 oleonard LibraryClaire: Knowing how to type is like knowing how the coffee-maker works. If people find out you can do it, they'll expect you to do it all the time.
13:51 LibraryClaire wise words
13:51 kidclamp like asking if someone knows xslt
13:52 * oleonard pretends to pretend he doesn't know how the coffee-maker works
13:52 magnuse huh, i thought it was possible to run more than one zebra z39.50/sru server on the same port but with different hosts? pretty sure i have managed to get that up and running before
13:53 marcelr magnuse: would surprise me
13:57 Joubu tuxayo: Salut, you just need to [% SET delimiter = Pref.value || ',' %]
13:57 in the .tt files, nothing more
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14:13 clrh §3
14:13 oups
14:18 oleonard Now we know clrh's password! ;)
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14:54 tuxayo Joubu: thanks :)
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15:08 cait we have a library reporting javascript alerts (are you sure...) do not work with firefox
15:08 has anyone seen something like that?
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15:22 nuentoter good morning!
15:22 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
15:23 oleonard Here, for instance, wahanui.
15:23 wahanui oleonard: excuse me?
15:34 Joubu khall: "Bug 18856 [QA Followup] - Rename method to avoid confusion" must be "Bug 18856: (QA follow-up) Rename method to avoid confusion"
15:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18856 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Cancel Waiting Hold in OPAC does not give useful message
15:34 Joubu please
15:34 I sent several email and repeated during the last 2 dev meetings
15:34 https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]messages#Examples
15:42 nuentoter ok so I had issues with holds, I followed the instructions from https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]uto_increment_fix and it fixd my problems going forward. There is still corrupt data somewhere between reserves and old_reserves somewhere. I went through our system and found there is 1 book on hold still in the system and that 1 item cannot be taken off hold without throwing errors. those errors are what led me to the dbms auto
15:42 increment fix. new holds work correctly. My only question is, if I simply delete the book that is on hold, and then re-add it to the system with same barcode and all. will it get around this issue or make it worse or....?
15:43 reading about bug 19016 now but not sure if any of that will help...
15:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19016 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Add a script to fix corrupted data
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15:56 Joubu nuentoter: what says the about page?
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16:40 oleonard tuxayo: You should add yourself: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
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17:06 cait nuentoter: you want to remove the duplicate id from old_reserves
17:07 deleting the item probably won't remove it I think
17:07 but yep, what Joubu said, check the about page
17:07 nuentoter i dont like the about page, its tells me too many ways i screwed up lol.
17:07 cait heh :)
17:11 reiveune bye
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17:12 nuentoter jk I have thousands of duplicates between biblio and deletedbiblio, and the same for items and deleteditems. memcache is not configured (been putting it off fixing other stuff first) Perl modules that are red are "Test::DBIx::Class (0.42) - Readonly::XS (0.01) - HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench (0.73) - WebService::ILS (0.07) " Yellow ones are " Exception::Class (1.38) - Sereal::Decoder (3.0) - Test::Exception (0.35)- Sereal::Encoder (3.0)
17:12 - Try::Tiny (0.22)"  under system info its just the DBMS auto increment fix listed and "You are missing the <template_cache_dir> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. That will bring a performance boost to enable it."
17:24 Joubu thousands of duplicates? erk
17:24 How old is your install?
17:36 nuentoter a year old, unfortunately have been running it without doing anything to it for 6 months simpyl because of other job duties
17:37 im getting a new server and will be doing a fresh install in a couple months, which was always the goal, the current setup has been a "let's try it out and see how it works for us" kind of thing that has been working well, just ironing things out before we spent $$ on a new server
17:44 Joubu did you understand the problem?
17:47 nuentoter: I would suggest to try the script on bug 19016 in a testing env (backup your data!)
17:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19016 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Add a script to fix corrupted data
17:48 Joubu it *should* work with the biblio and item tables
17:51 nuentoter: if you do not care about the deleted tables, just remove the data from there
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18:06 nuentoter i understand the problem and was waiting on running the script till i asked around a bit more. For me to run a test environment is a pita so i was curious about the idea of removing the data, and if that would simply make things worse or fix it.
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18:44 magnuse letsencrypt all the things!
18:45 oleonard yeah.
18:54 rangi Joubu: when you have the pdf building well, can you open an issue for getting the ci to build it and paste in the commands you use (or just merge request .gitlab-ci.yml) and ill get that building and deploying automatically too) thanks
18:54 lol
18:54 you already did
18:54 (well the epub anyway) i should read all my mail
18:58 Joubu it might be confusing as I did a PR with a old code...
18:58 last one should be ok
18:58 rangi ill take a look
18:58 Joubu no pdf, I do not know how to generate it "lightly", i.e. without the full texlive-ful package
18:59 rangi ahh right
18:59 Joubu may be trivial but it was easier to pull 3Go of packages to test locally :D
19:00 magnuse i can haz dox epub?
19:00 rangi yup
19:02 Joubu haz dox?
19:04 magnuse it is lolcat for "is it now possible to obtain the Koha documentation in ePub format?" ;-)
19:06 Joubu it was already possible :)
19:06 rangi now we just do it automatically
19:06 Joubu now it will be available with a click
19:06 magnuse awesome!
19:06 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
19:06 magnuse oops
19:07 but it is not linked to anywhere yet?
19:07 ePub > pdf, if you ask me
19:07 rangi the automatic ones will end up at
19:08 https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/epub/  etc
19:08 when it si working well, im sure Joubu or I will send an email out
19:09 the nice thing is, people can see their changes show up, automatically (well 20 mins or so) after their merge request is merged
19:09 same with updated .po files
19:09 * oleonard waves to rangi
19:09 rangi so I reckon we could have people working on it at the hackfest and see their changes show up as they do it
19:10 magnuse Joubu++ rangi++ that is so great!
19:10 rangi then, i really want people to start on doing things like workbooks
19:10 magnuse excellent!
19:10 rangi because the manual is great, if you already mostly know what you are doing
19:10 but a circulation workbook, that just stepped you through setting up your library to circulate and all the stuff related to that
19:10 magnuse workbooks?
19:10 rangi like a tutorial
19:11 magnuse ooh, clever!
19:11 rangi 5-15 pages, vs 1000s like the manual... to get you going, then you can look up more in the manual
19:11 and librarians are undoubtedly the best to write that
19:15 magnuse +1
19:25 nuentoter hmmm this may be something I can work on actually when I get the new server in. i'll be doing a fresh install and import.
19:26 oleonard Why is it that with plack disabled a 404 error will load Koha's error page but with plack enabled we get a blank screen with just "not found?"
19:31 Joubu "Uploading artifacts..."
19:31 oleonard: it's handled by apache without plack
19:31 with plack with need to dev something
19:32 I tried, cannot remember if I gave up or submitted a patch... :-/
19:32 I do not find the patch, so I guess I gave up :)
19:32 oleonard :)
19:33 magnuse have fun, #koha!
19:33 oleonard Seems like a problem which must have been solved by someone at some time.
19:33 Joubu rangi: it failed!
19:33 "FATAL: Too large"
19:33 lol
19:35 rangi: did the scp worked? I guess no :-/
19:35 rangi it failed in the build
19:36 so didnt get to deploy
19:36 Uploading artifacts...
19:36 public: found 21208 matching files
19:36 ERROR: Uploading artifacts to coordinator... too large archive  id=47628736 responseStatus=413 Request Entity Too Large status=413 Request Entity Too Large token=R4EK1zmJ
19:36 FATAL: Too large
19:36 ERROR: Job failed: exit code 1
19:37 Joubu rangi: so we could revert to what you did before, no artifacts and scp from build/* instead
19:37 rangi *nod*
19:39 nuentoter oleonard https://pastebin.com/0fNKNWqH
19:39 something like that is what you mean?
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19:59 oleonard Bye all
20:23 edveal Is anyone working on integrating OCLCs Navigator and Koha?
20:24 ebegin @wunder montreal, canada
20:24 huginn ebegin: Error: No such location could be found.
20:24 ebegin Come on... :)
20:25 It's not that cold :)
20:25 @wunder h2r 2y8
20:25 huginn ebegin: Error: No such location could be found.
20:27 ebegin @wunder help
20:27 huginn ebegin: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
20:27 * ebegin gives up
20:27 Joubu it's broken :)
20:33 gmcharlt @wunder 30096
20:33 huginn gmcharlt: Error: No such location could be found.
20:36 gmcharlt @wunder 30096
20:36 huginn gmcharlt: Error: No such location could be found.
20:37 gmcharlt @cnn 3006
20:37 huginn gmcharlt: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
20:37 gmcharlt @cnn 30096
20:37 huginn gmcharlt: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
20:37 gmcharlt @ham 30096
20:37 huginn gmcharlt: Error: No such location could be found.
20:38 gmcharlt @wunder rss 30096
20:38 huginn gmcharlt: Error: No such location could be found.
20:45 wizzyrea it's all brooooken :(
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20:57 gmcharlt @wunder Montreal, Canada
20:57 huginn gmcharlt: Forecast for Montreal, QC: May 4, 2015: Chance of Rain. High 23°C (73°F). Winds 18 kph WSW May 5, 2015: Scattered Clouds. High 25°C (77°F). Winds 39 kph WSW May 6, 2015: Clear. High 19°C (66°F). Winds 25 kph WNW May 7, 2015: Clear. High 22°C (71°F). Winds 28 kph West May 8, 2015: Scattered Clouds. High 23°C (73°F). Winds 21 kph West May 9, 2015: Clear. High 25°C (77°F). Winds 21 kph WSW
20:57 gmcharlt hmm
20:58 still no good
20:59 cait oooh
20:59 belated christmas present!
20:59 @wunder Konstanz
20:59 huginn cait: I suck
20:59 cait yeah
20:59 @wunder Konstanz, Germany
20:59 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:05 Joubu bye #koha
21:05 here it's 35°C...
21:06 you just need to open the window!
21:06 ebegin gmcharlt: May 4th 2015 :)
21:06 It's 5°C here
21:07 Last week it was -35°C
21:07 @wunder montreal, canada
21:07 huginn ebegin: I suck
21:07 ebegin huginn: we know ;-)
21:07 huginn ebegin: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:16 gmcharlt @wunder Montreal, Canada
21:16 huginn gmcharlt: Montreal, Quebec :: Overcast :: 41F/5C | Wind Chill: 33F/1C | Thursday: Cloudy, periods of rain. Lows overnight in the low 40s. Thursday Night: Rain likely. Low around 40F. Winds SSE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall near a half an inch.
21:17 cait it appears only gmcharlt has the superpower
21:18 bag @wunder 97215
21:18 huginn bag: Portland, OR :: Mostly Cloudy :: 56F/13C | Thursday: Overcast with rain showers at times. High 54F. Winds SW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 50%. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph. Thursday Night: Rain showers early becoming more intermittent overnight. Low 47F. Winds SSW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph.
21:18 bag cait try it now
21:19 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:19 huginn cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Overcast :: 40F/4C | Wind Chill: 40F/4C | Thursday: Mostly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid 30s. Thursday Night: Cloudy. Low around 35F. Winds light and variable.
21:19 cait magic!
21:19 but i will lose the +o again when logging out tonight i think
21:19 ebegin @wunder montreal, canada
21:20 huginn ebegin: Montreal, Quebec :: Overcast :: 41F/5C | Wind Chill: 33F/1C | Thursday: Cloudy, periods of rain. Lows overnight in the low 40s. Thursday Night: Rain likely. Low around 40F. Winds SSE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall near a half an inch.
21:20 cait is there a way we can make it work for everyone again?
21:20 bag it works now
21:20 cait cool :)
21:20 bag gmcharlt++
21:20 @karma
21:20 huginn bag: Highest karma: "Joubu" (597), "cait" (524), and "tcohen" (330).  Lowest karma: "failed" (-37), "ie" (-35), and "-" (-32).  You (bag) are ranked 17 out of 792.
21:20 cait Joubu++
21:20 Joubu++
21:21 Joubu++
21:21 i got reaosns.
21:22 ebegin cait += 100 :)
21:23 @karma
21:23 huginn ebegin: Highest karma: "Joubu" (600), "cait" (524), and "tcohen" (330).  Lowest karma: "failed" (-37), "ie" (-35), and "-" (-32).  You (ebegin) are ranked 101 out of 792.
21:23 ebegin 101.. not too bad for someone who was not here in 2017 :)
21:24 cait nice to see you around :)
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21:30 ebegin I'll let you know when it will be -35°C overhere :)
21:31 cait @wunder zKonstan
21:31 huginn cait: Error: I could not find a valid location for: zKonstan
21:31 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:31 huginn cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Overcast :: 40F/4C | Wind Chill: 40F/4C | Thursday: Mostly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid 30s. Thursday Night: Cloudy. Low around 35F. Winds light and variable.
21:31 cait 4... seems about right
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22:35 cait @wunder Panjabi
22:35 huginn cait: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Panjabi
22:35 cait @wunder Panaji
22:36 huginn cait: Panaji, India :: Clear :: 77F/25C | Friday: Sunny. High near 90F. E winds shifting to WSW at 10 to 15 mph. Friday Night: Mainly clear. Low 76F. Winds light and variable.
22:36 rangi @wunder nzwn
22:36 huginn rangi: Wellington International, New Zealand :: Mostly Cloudy :: 61F/16C | Friday: Windy with mostly cloudy skies. High near 70F. Winds ESE at 20 to 30 mph. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph. Friday Night: Cloudy skies early, followed by partial clearing. Low 61F. Winds ENE at 10 to 20 mph.
22:41 bag when do you go cait ?
22:41 cait week after next
22:42 super excited :)
22:43 bag yeah I’m really excited for you!!!
22:43 should be THE fun!  I love india
22:44 anything is possible in india
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23:21 Ancient1 in 2018 ancient aliens and our real gods will return to earth and they will land in India first
23:21 the Hinduism thing
23:22 we are being prepared for the disclosure in 2018
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23:38 rangi https://koha-community.org/man[…]18.05/zh_TW/html/
23:38 https://koha-community.org/man[…]18.05/zh_TW/epub/
23:39 its def not en, gotta fix that bit, but the rest all good :)

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