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| 07:03 | magnuse | ~~~ |
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| 07:33 | cait | good morning magnuse |
| 07:34 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
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| 07:45 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 11:41 | Joubu | mtompset: "Bug 19938: Split C4/Members.pm to avoid conflict issues" => What does it mean? |
| 11:41 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19938 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Refactor C4::Overdues::checkoverdues |
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| 12:19 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:22 | cait | hi marcelr - thx for the reply :) |
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| 12:50 | oleonard | Hey all |
| 12:55 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:55 | ebegin | hey oleonard ! :) |
| 12:57 | oleonard | Yay hackfest! |
| 12:59 | My schedule: 2018: Marseille Hackfest. 2019: Save up. 2020: KohaCon in New Zealand. | |
| 13:00 | cait | :) |
| 13:06 | oleonard: the flight is horrible, but it's worth it | |
| 13:07 | oleonard | I'm going by steam ship. I'll be leaving in November 2019 ;) |
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| 13:23 | ebegin | oleonard: personal drones may be available by then :) |
| 13:26 | fridolin | oleonard: cool looking forward to see you in Marseille |
| 13:26 | at the pub mostly ;) | |
| 13:27 | oleonard | fridolin: thumbs_up.png |
| 13:38 | Joubu | khall_: heh, we reviewed the same bug :) |
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| 13:54 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #21: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/21/ |
| 13:55 | * oleonard: Bug 19669: Remove deprecated checkouts by patron category report | |
| 13:55 | * kyle: Bug 19669: (QA follow-up) Remove itemstypes.plugin | |
| 13:55 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19845: Do not generate a password if one is filled on selfreg | |
| 13:55 | * mtompset: Bug 17770: Fix Sitemapper.t if date changes during test run | |
| 13:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19669 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove deprecated checkouts by patron category report |
| 13:55 | jenkins | * mtompset: Bug 17770: Improve perlcritic level |
| 13:55 | * mtompset: Bug 17770: Perltidy | |
| 13:55 | * srdjan: Bug 19450: Fixed WebService::ILS bug upstream (0.17) | |
| 13:55 | * david.bourgault: Bug 11210: Writeoff partial amounts | |
| 13:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19845 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Patron password is ignored during self-registration if PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail is enabled |
| 13:55 | jenkins | * alexbuckley: Bug 19514: Implement password restrictions into onboarding tool |
| 13:55 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19514: Add client-side check | |
| 13:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17770 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/Sitemapper.t fails when date changes during test run |
| 13:55 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19444: Do not auto renew if patron is expired and |
| 13:55 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19444: Display error message for auto_account_expired | |
| 13:55 | * julian.maurice: Bug 19444: (QA follow-up) Fix tests for UNIMARC | |
| 13:55 | * julian.maurice: Bug 19444: (QA follow-up) Remove repeating condition | |
| 13:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19450 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , OverDrive integration failing on missing method |
| 13:55 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11210 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ellermaugustus, Pushed to Master , Allow partial writeoff | |
| 13:55 | jenkins | * chrisweeks: Bug 19510: Add description for edi_manage in acquistion permissions |
| 13:55 | * Nick Clemens: Bug 18201: Export data -Fix "Remove non-local items" option and add | |
| 13:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19514 major, P3, ---, alexbuckley, Pushed to Master , No Password restrictions in onboarding tool patron creation |
| 13:55 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19444 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Automatic renewal script should not auto-renew if a patron's record has expired | |
| 13:55 | jenkins | * Nick Clemens: Bug 18201: Unit tests |
| 13:55 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19694: Force scalar context for output_pref called with billingdate | |
| 13:55 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19830: Add the Koha::Patron->old_checkouts method | |
| 13:55 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19599: Speed anonymise_issue_history up | |
| 13:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19510 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chrisweeks, Pushed to Master , edi_manage permission has no description |
| 13:55 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18201 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Export data -Fix "Remove non-local items" option and add "Removes non-local records" option for existing functionality | |
| 13:55 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19694 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Edited shipping cost in invoice doesn't save | |
| 13:55 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19830 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add the Koha::Patron->old_checkout method | |
| 13:55 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19599 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , anonymise_issue_history can be very slow on large systems | |
| 13:55 | mtompset | Joubu: Since 19933 might conflict on C4/Members.pm due to the removal of patronflags, I split that portion out. So if 19933 gets pushed first, you don't need to push that segment. :) |
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| 13:57 | * cait | waves |
| 13:57 | cait | brb for the meeting |
| 14:01 | back... | |
| 14:01 | kidclamp | .me waves |
| 14:01 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 14:01 | kidclamp | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 10 January 2018 |
| 14:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jan 10 14:01:58 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_10_january_2018' |
| 14:02 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
| 14:02 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 14:02 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:02 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:02 | marcelr | #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum |
| 14:02 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:02 | qa_team? | |
| 14:02 | wahanui | well, qa_team is alex_a jajm marcelr khall kidclamp tcohen josef_moravec |
| 14:02 | Joubu | rmaints? |
| 14:02 | wahanui | rumour has it rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) |
| 14:03 | fridolin | yep |
| 14:03 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
| 14:03 | * kidclamp | waves twice more |
| 14:03 | alex_a | master_of_the_world? |
| 14:03 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France |
| 14:03 | alex_a | lol |
| 14:03 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Konstanz |
| 14:03 | Joubu | #info last meeting was http://meetings.koha-community[…]-12-27-20.08.html - votes on coding guidelines have been made |
| 14:03 | jajm | #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre |
| 14:03 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_10_January_2018 |
| 14:03 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_10_January_2018 | |
| 14:04 | #info both general and dev meetings now | |
| 14:04 | alex_a | #info Alex Arnaud, Biblibre, France |
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| 14:04 | ebegin | #info Eric Bégin, inLibro, Canada |
| 14:04 | caroline | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Canada |
| 14:04 | ebegin | Salut caroline :-) |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
| 14:05 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | anybody? |
| 14:05 | wahanui | The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
| 14:05 | nickr | #info Nick Rosasco - (back after a >12 year absence?!) - who might be able to scare up some free labor if the right thing can be found - Indiana, USA |
| 14:05 | jzairo | #info Jessie Zairo, ByWater Solutions, USA |
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| 14:06 | * Joubu | should not have used #info in the intro... |
| 14:06 | cait | too impatient ;) |
| 14:06 | h nickr! | |
| 14:06 | * oleonard | digs up evidence of nickr's existence from 2014 |
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| 14:07 | josef_moravec_ | #info Josef Moravec, Municipal library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic |
| 14:07 | kidclamp | calling again for any announcements |
| 14:07 | #info Happy belated birthday bag and paul_p | |
| 14:07 | cait | :) |
| 14:08 | NateC | #info Nate Curulla, ByWater |
| 14:08 | LeeJ | #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University |
| 14:08 | Joubu | #info Happy non birthday tcohen |
| 14:08 | mtompset | #info Mark Tompsett |
| 14:08 | caboose | #info Michael Cabus, ByWater |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | #topic Update from the Release manager (18.05) |
| 14:08 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (18.05) (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | Joubu |
| 14:09 | Joubu | Yep |
| 14:09 | ebegin | Can we still make announcements ? :) |
| 14:09 | Joubu | nothing important to tell |
| 14:10 | #info announcement - Hackfest in Marseille, registrations open ! http://lists.koha-community.or[…]nuary/044244.html | |
| 14:10 | ebegin: yes :) | |
| 14:10 | ebegin | #infp annoncement - I want to let you know that francharb (former inLibro and BibLibre) has left the Koha community to work with multiple universities in Quebec in order to help them pick their next ILS. We will miss him :-( Thanks Francois for what you did for Koha ! |
| 14:10 | Joubu | #info refactoring still in progress, see email to koha-devel - http://lists.koha-community.or[…]nuary/044242.html |
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| 14:11 | Joubu | the point of the refactoring is to make the code cleaner, add code coverage and make it easier to maintain |
| 14:11 | cait | francharb++ we will miss you and all the best for the future! |
| 14:11 | Joubu | I really would like to see people involve in the SO and QA process. These patches are easy to write, but hard to maintain |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | #info annoncement - I want to let you know that francharb (former inLibro and BibLibre) has left the Koha community to work with multiple universities in Quebec in order to help them pick their next ILS. We will miss him :-( Thanks Francois for what you did for Koha ! |
| 14:12 | Joubu | ebegin: what will be their next ILS? Koha? |
| 14:12 | oleonard | Easy job ;) |
| 14:12 | ebegin | I wish ! nothing is set yet. This is a group of 19 university of so |
| 14:13 | fridolin | francharb thanks for the mapple sirop you had sent ;) |
| 14:13 | Joubu | #info I am waiting for Bernardo's answer to improve update of the manual po files (pottle <=> git repo) |
| 14:14 | #info I am waiting for drojf[m]'s answer to improve our packages building infrastucture | |
| 14:14 | khall | #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:14 | Joubu | #info I am waiting for QA team to QA all the things |
| 14:14 | cait | heh |
| 14:15 | kidclamp | #topic Update on releases |
| 14:15 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:15 | kidclamp | #info 17.11 pushing patches now - will announce string freeze for 15th and release on 22nd |
| 14:15 | #info 17.11.01 (and other stable) were released late but should be all set | |
| 14:16 | #info thanks all for help on my first release! (I didn't break all the Kohas!) | |
| 14:16 | fridolin? | |
| 14:16 | wahanui | it has been said that fridolin is busy at the moment, I asked him to backport the bug fix |
| 14:16 | fridolin | kidclamp: release of 17.05.07 |
| 14:16 | nothing special | |
| 14:17 | just I saw you merged branch from security repo kidclamp | |
| 14:17 | so I see a lot of commits twice | |
| 14:17 | in 17.11.x branch | |
| 14:17 | kidclamp | ah |
| 14:17 | i did break all the kohas | |
| 14:17 | fridolin | i think you should avoid merging |
| 14:18 | Joubu | yes, please cherry-pick instead |
| 14:18 | kidclamp | will do from now on |
| 14:18 | Joubu | or rebase |
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| 14:18 | fridolin | i'd say push the same branch on security repo and gitmaster |
| 14:19 | i'm done | |
| 14:19 | Joubu | note for Rmaints: we asked Bernardo to create the PR with a valid commit author name/email, instead of "root" |
| 14:19 | something like "Koha Translate Team" will be used | |
| 14:19 | fridolin | +1 |
| 14:19 | mtompset | use sudo echo tee's to append one line at a time from git format-patch's. ;) |
| 14:19 | cait | pushing should work - did it like that in the past |
| 14:20 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the QA team |
| 14:20 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:20 | kidclamp | cait |
| 14:20 | cait | typing sec |
| 14:20 | #info QA Team had a QA Sprint day on 21 December, queue went down from 154 to 118, currently around 90 | |
| 14:20 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]-21_QA_Sprint_Day QA Sprint Day 21 December | |
| 14:21 | andreashm | #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library |
| 14:21 | cait | will put more work on getting the older bugs out of the queue hopefully and I hope we can get the numbers further down |
| 14:21 | andreashm | (late to the party as ever) |
| 14:21 | cait | one more thing |
| 14:21 | wahanui | hmmm... one more thing is I'm installing this new koha for and old version dumped database. besides kohaeupgrade-schema instancename what shall i do? |
| 14:22 | cait | #info New info page for QA on the wiki: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_QA - read if you want to join us or to learn how the QA team works! |
| 14:22 | Joubu | and please pick bug fixes before enhs, as always |
| 14:22 | cait | it's WIP, but some info is there |
| 14:23 | the QA team is also looking for tutorials on: | |
| 14:23 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
| 14:23 | cait | #info QA team is looking for tutorials on: Authentication - how to set up LDAP, CAS, Shibboleth, testing translatability |
| 14:24 | #info ... and a test database with a good amount of acq and/or subscription data | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | testing translatability? |
| 14:24 | cait | how to check if something is translatable - i might take care of that one |
| 14:25 | that's it from me :) | |
| 14:26 | Joubu | QAers? |
| 14:26 | kidclamp | nothing from me, hitting what I can when I can |
| 14:26 | QAteam++ | |
| 14:28 | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) | |
| 14:28 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:28 | Joubu | yes, 2 from me |
| 14:28 | #topic refactoring | |
| 14:28 | As I told previously, it is important to spend time on testing and make them in quickly | |
| 14:28 | ebegin | Joubu: I hate that topic :) |
| 14:28 | Joubu | it's painful to maintain, and... easy to write |
| 14:28 | looking at the diff will show you how useful it is | |
| 14:29 | the code after refactoring is much more easier to read and make much more sense (at least to me...) | |
| 14:29 | kidclamp | refactoring++ |
| 14:29 | Joubu | the goal is to uniformize the code: instead of having several routines that do the same things, we have only 1 method (with tests) |
| 14:30 | cait | tests++ |
| 14:30 | Joubu | I'd like to say that Alex worked on Selenium tests as well |
| 14:30 | cait | also we get rid of a lot of dead code I think |
| 14:30 | ebegin | Are we the only one to have difficulties following those ? This is really hard on us to update the submitted patches and keeping up to date. |
| 14:30 | Joubu | there are 2 patches waiting for signoff, it's a start (and so blocker) for other patches. |
| 14:31 | I'd like to have much more selenium tests in 18.05, they are important to catch regression | |
| 14:31 | s | |
| 14:31 | ebegin | I agree that this is important, however, I believe that we should also attack the performance issues |
| 14:31 | Joubu | ebegin: that is the point, now it is hard to track what is perf killer |
| 14:31 | with everything in one place, it's much more easier | |
| 14:32 | ebegin | But when "everything" will be in place ? I don't see the end. Maybe you do :) |
| 14:32 | Joubu | if we have Koha::Object (on top of dbic) everywhere (and clean our controller scripts) I could focus on how to improve perf |
| 14:32 | cait | it's not a short process rewriting your API :) |
| 14:33 | Joubu | what I see is that these patches do not get the attention I'd like |
| 14:33 | kidclamp | long process, but each step helps |
| 14:33 | Joubu | and so I have to wait 6 months to continue this work |
| 14:33 | I cannot rewrite everything in one go | |
| 14:33 | cait | we need more testers and testing to speed it up |
| 14:33 | Joubu | steps by steps... |
| 14:33 | cait | Members is almost gone now right? |
| 14:34 | Joubu | For instance, we have a patch to improve zebra index (retrieve item's info), but it is specific to only 1 table/object (item) |
| 14:34 | so it is adding more and more code, but not generic => too much code to maintain, error prone, etc. | |
| 14:35 | ebegin: do you face perf issues? | |
| 14:35 | if yes, report it on bugzilla with benchmark and the area to blame | |
| 14:35 | ebegin | Mostly with use of Date/Time which are really really slow. |
| 14:35 | Joubu | calendar related then? |
| 14:36 | ebegin | Yep! We actually submit patches related to this. |
| 14:36 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17015 | |
| 14:37 | huginn | Bug 17015: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Signed Off , New Koha Calendar |
| 14:37 | Joubu | so nothing new to report :) |
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| 14:37 | Joubu | next? |
| 14:37 | wahanui | next is packaging manager... do we have a volunteer for that? |
| 14:38 | Joubu | forget next |
| 14:38 | wahanui | Joubu: I forgot next |
| 14:38 | Joubu | #topic Merge local and online documentations |
| 14:38 | #link bug 19817 | |
| 14:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge local and online documentations |
| 14:38 | ebegin | Blou : if you have other performance issues other than the calendar, its a good time to report them :) |
| 14:38 | LeeJ | yay documentation :D |
| 14:38 | Joubu | I need feedback on that bug, if you are using the local help editor |
| 14:38 | I am going to work on that, but I need to know how people use it | |
| 14:39 | I have time now to dedicate on that, I do not know if I will have in 2 months | |
| 14:39 | so please have a look and tell me if you (or customers) are using it | |
| 14:39 | and how we could improve it | |
| 14:39 | LeeJ | Joubu: perhaps we consider sending out some sort of questionnaire to the lists? |
| 14:39 | Joubu | basically I am going to remove the local help pages (to point to the online manual), then add the ability to create local help pages |
| 14:40 | caboose | love it Jobu |
| 14:40 | ebegin | I was able to set Sphinx up to build the documentation but it was quite painful... especially the PDF version |
| 14:40 | Joubu | and so remove the ability to *edit* the official manual (for that, you can contribute to the official version) |
| 14:41 | ebegin: it's quite easy, ping me late if you have questions (I only tested html IIRC) | |
| 14:41 | cait | epub works nicely too |
| 14:41 | Joubu | mater* |
| 14:41 | later* | |
| 14:41 | cait | tested with Ubuntu |
| 14:41 | LeeJ | Joubu: let me know if there's anything I can do to help you with the documentation merge :) |
| 14:42 | Joubu | LeeJ: by answering my comment :) |
| 14:42 | and look at the patches I already submitted | |
| 14:42 | LeeJ | Joubu: I'm looking over the bug now |
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| 14:42 | ebegin | I didn't have any problem with epub and HTML. PDF is harder and when we answer RFP, the PDF version is often the best version to provide :-) |
| 14:42 | LeeJ | Joubu: I didn't have an answer because no one at our library uses the help files...because they just come straight to me to ask |
| 14:42 | mtompset | Oopx... was slow on the draw... who is the packaging manager? Because unstable is 17.06... shouldn't it be 17.12? |
| 14:42 | Joubu | I will test that after the meeting then |
| 14:43 | LeeJ: that's the point! How would you like to provide them a manual which could replace you? :D | |
| 14:43 | they will stop bother you ;) | |
| 14:43 | cait | the main goal of deduplicating is also to ease maintenance - manual and help files drift apartand translators have to translate both separately right now |
| 14:44 | ebegin | joubu : can you review the wiki for the installation of Sphinx ? It was not really helpful : https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Manual |
| 14:44 | LeeJ | Joubu: haha fair enough |
| 14:44 | cait | it's all in the readme |
| 14:44 | no need to duplicate to the wiki | |
| 14:44 | ebegin | So the wiki should be removed then. |
| 14:44 | Joubu | ebegin: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]vs-users/kohadocs |
| 14:45 | I am expecting make pdf to do the job, but as I said I did not test it | |
| 14:45 | cait | it's linking to it, the kohadocs part was kept for historical reasons |
| 14:45 | Joubu | Another "General development discussion" topic? |
| 14:45 | nickr | Maybe? |
| 14:45 | wahanui | i think Maybe is a momentaneous error |
| 14:45 | kidclamp | just to ask for feedback on a few bugs |
| 14:46 | bug 18639 | |
| 14:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18639 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Separate replacement cost and retail price fields in acquisitions |
| 14:46 | ebegin | joubu : you're expectation are wrong :) there is no pdf, you have to use make latexpdf (and configure it before hand) |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | bug 18736 |
| 14:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18736 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Problems in order calculations (rounding errors) |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | bug 19166 |
| 14:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19166 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to add adjustments to an invoice |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | acq ultimatley needs some refactoring, but these bugs try to fix some large issues without making too many changes |
| 14:48 | anyone else? | |
| 14:49 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 14:49 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:49 | nickr | I'm not sure I'm in the correct (meeting) spot for this one, but I was |
| 14:49 | told IRC was the place.... I'm a teach @ a midsize US University, and one of the courses I run (starting today, in fact) is the project course for CS majors. | |
| 14:50 | cait | nickr: one sec |
| 14:50 | nickr | OK |
| 14:50 | cait | i think we are strating the dev meeting after this one? |
| 14:50 | kidclamp: another meeting part? or are we done? because i think nickr has a topic for us :) | |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | we can add topic if you give a title :-) |
| 14:51 | #chair cait | |
| 14:51 | huginn | Current chairs: cait kidclamp |
| 14:51 | cait | eek |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | #chair Joubu |
| 14:51 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu cait kidclamp |
| 14:51 | cait | nickr: how sould we call it? |
| 14:51 | nickr | "possible source of labor but with some overhead cost"? |
| 14:52 | cait | heh |
| 14:52 | maybe just koha student projects? and then you can explain? | |
| 14:52 | nickr | Yep. |
| 14:52 | cait | #topic Koha student projects |
| 14:52 | Topic for #koha is now Koha student projects (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 14:52 | cait | please start |
| 14:52 | Joubu | erk |
| 14:52 | nickr | OK |
| 14:52 | * Joubu | has been disconnected |
| 14:53 | nickr | I've got students in the "capstone" sort of course. They get to pick a project (but I exercise some control by prepping the options/menu) |
| 14:53 | Typically, they work in a team - so 2-4 or so students, sometimes with a bit of a spread in skills!. | |
| 14:54 | If there's something identifiable - either a somewhat contained redo/refactor? or something from scratch? - that they could work on, I'm willing to put a Koha "task" on their list. | |
| 14:55 | Preferably someone currently contributing would be ID'd as the liaison. | |
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| 14:55 | Joubu | We indeed have a lot to do for students, it mostly depends on what they want to do |
| 14:55 | kidclamp | should people email you wiht ideas nickr? |
| 14:56 | ebegin | nickr : we start the training of most of our interns asking them to do a plugin. |
| 14:56 | Joubu | The big step is to understand how the community work (workflow) and the code (it is quite huge) |
| 14:56 | oleonard | nickr: rangi helps run student work on Koha during Catalyst Academy. He'd be a good person to hit up for strategies |
| 14:56 | ebegin | That is a good way to learn the libraries without having to go to deep in the core |
| 14:56 | nickr | Nod... I recall the hugeness (I'll confess to being involved about 12 years ago, mostly on the docs side of things) |
| 14:57 | oleonard | Learn the process, learn the workflow, test some patches, submit some minor bug fixes. Work up from there. |
| 14:57 | nickr | Emailing me w/ ideas would be great.... |
| 14:57 | Joubu | first things to do is 1. install a dev env, 2. signoff, 3. read the code, 4. bugfixes. And finally you can deep into the code :) |
| 14:57 | cait | working on the manual might be good too, there are also related projects to koha like Hea that might be a bit more contained |
| 14:57 | nickr | I'll also happily talk to rangi. |
| 14:57 | kidclamp | can you send an email to the list to explain and ask suggestions nickr? |
| 14:58 | nickr | sure, will do. |
| 14:58 | cait | Catalyst Academy has it's project week next week |
| 14:58 | nickr | gotcha. :) |
| 14:58 | cait | maybe keep an eye on this one to see what they are working on: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Catalyst_Academy |
| 14:58 | nickr | If it looks like too much setup hassle, it isn't an emergency for me! |
| 14:58 | kidclamp | #info nickr is looking for Koha projects to assign to temas of CS students, email him with suggestions |
| 14:58 | #info nickr will email the lists with more info | |
| 14:59 | nickr | Thanks so much! |
| 14:59 | I'll be in touch... | |
| 14:59 | Part of the trick is to find something that'll motivate/intrigue them a bit. : ) | |
| 15:00 | Joubu | we could also find something new, around the project |
| 15:00 | nickr | ... and I'll freely admit I know from longtime mail list lurking and earlier volunteer work few places have this crowd beat on being a supportive community. |
| 15:00 | LeeJ | nickr: I second the idea of plugins...they're fun to work on and help as a good primer about how Koha works :) |
| 15:00 | kidclamp | any more topics? |
| 15:00 | nickr | (thanks all!) |
| 15:01 | cait | might have to make some suggestions,as they are not so familiar with libraries |
| 15:01 | kidclamp | #topic Review of coding guidelines |
| 15:01 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 15:01 | Joubu | #info tcohen is not around. "New rule SQL12: Booleans" vote is postponed |
| 15:02 | ebegin | welcome back nickr :) |
| 15:02 | Joubu | from the last meeting " action: cait improve the coding guidelines related to the use of SQL queries " did you? |
| 15:02 | mtompset | What was SQL12 Booleans? |
| 15:02 | cait | oops |
| 15:02 | sorry, not quite ready | |
| 15:02 | Joubu | mtompset: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-12-27-20.08.html |
| 15:02 | cait | please postpone |
| 15:02 | kidclamp | #info Reminder to all - please add topics to the agenda :-) |
| 15:03 | Joubu | #info "New rule "No DBIx::Class in atomic updates"" is postponed |
| 15:03 | #action cait cait improve the coding guidelines related to the use of SQL queries | |
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| 15:03 | Joubu | To all, please... "Write good commit messages" |
| 15:03 | see the last meeting minutes, I am going to be rude on the bug report, sorry in advance... | |
| 15:03 | reports* | |
| 15:04 | marcelr | should that be on the guidelines too ? |
| 15:04 | kidclamp | you can be strict and polite :-D |
| 15:04 | Joubu | "Read https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Commit_messages to know how to write valid commit messages (Joubu, 20:58:15)" |
| 15:04 | like | |
| 15:04 | 1sec | |
| 15:05 | LeeJ | Joubu: you need to give tough love to all of us to make the product better :) |
| 15:05 | * mtompset | crosses fingers. |
| 15:05 | Joubu | 1. Patch's title starts with "Bug 12345: " |
| 15:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't Clear Reading History for Anonymous patron |
| 15:05 | Joubu | 2. (QA follow-up) and (follow-up) are ok |
| 15:05 | marcelr | hmm the good example is rather ugly |
| 15:05 | Joubu | 3. Bug report titles are different from commit titles |
| 15:06 | marcelr | authority searches in auth_finder error out |
| 15:06 | Joubu | marcelr: I wrote the "examples" section |
| 15:06 | I'd also like to say: | |
| 15:06 | marcelr | nobody comes that far ;) |
| 15:06 | Joubu | #info IMPORTANT - no need to add new subroutines to C4 namespace, it will be rejected |
| 15:07 | #info IMPORTANT - no need to add or update methods without test coverage, it will be rejected | |
| 15:07 | cait | scary Joubu |
| 15:07 | Joubu | otherwise you and us are wasting our time |
| 15:08 | cait | I'd also encourage devs to run qa tools if you don't already |
| 15:08 | Joubu: could we add something checking for new subroutines without test coverage? | |
| 15:08 | marcelr | we will reject your code unless stated otherwise ;) |
| 15:08 | Joubu | cait: well, now people adds empty POD to make the script happy... |
| 15:09 | cait | might have been by mistake |
| 15:09 | Joubu | nope |
| 15:09 | next meeting? | |
| 15:09 | wahanui | next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 15:09 | mtompset | Plus adding test coverage means less regressions, and proof your code works. Harsh but good. |
| 15:09 | clrh | you could have a "check before committing" in the wiki page with these "Important" |
| 15:10 | kidclamp | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 15:10 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 15:10 | kidclamp | wiki page is good idea |
| 15:10 | are these already in coding guidelines? | |
| 15:10 | Joubu | kidclamp: ? the mandatory tests and C4 deprecation? |
| 15:10 | yes ofc | |
| 15:10 | kidclamp | :-) |
| 15:11 | cait | we might want to restructure and highlight |
| 15:11 | kidclamp | Next dev meeting 24 January 2017 20 UTC? |
| 15:11 | cait | part of my forgotton homework |
| 15:11 | I won't be there - travelling | |
| 15:11 | but don't let that stop you :) | |
| 15:11 | kidclamp | Next General meeting 7 Feburary 2017 20 UTC? |
| 15:11 | Joubu | #action clrh Add a "important check before committing/submission" to the wiki page |
| 15:11 | :D | |
| 15:12 | clrh | Joubu: I am trying |
| 15:12 | Joubu | kidclamp: nope, 1month |
| 15:12 | clrh | probably not in your good place :p |
| 15:12 | Joubu | kidclamp: do not break the bot |
| 15:12 | kidclamp | yes, wil only info the general |
| 15:13 | hehe 2018 for both | |
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| 15:14 | LeeJ | yay for different days for meetings! :D |
| 15:14 | Joubu | I will not be around on 24th, but ok for me |
| 15:15 | kidclamp | #info Next meeting: 7 February 2018, 20 UTC |
| 15:15 | last call! | |
| 15:15 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:15 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 15:15 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jan 10 15:15:34 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:15 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-01-10-14.01.html | |
| 15:15 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-01-10-14.01.txt | |
| 15:15 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]10-14.01.log.html | |
| 15:15 | LeeJ | kidclamp++ Joubu++ |
| 15:15 | Joubu | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 10 January 2018 |
| 15:15 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jan 10 15:15:58 2018 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:15 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 15:15 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 10 January 2018) | |
| 15:15 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_10_january_2018' |
| 15:16 | kidclamp | koha++ |
| 15:16 | Joubu | #info See http://meetings.koha-community[…]-01-10-14.01.html |
| 15:16 | #info joined with general meeting | |
| 15:16 | #info Next meeting: 24 January 2018, 20 UTC | |
| 15:16 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:16 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 15:16 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jan 10 15:16:48 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:16 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-01-10-15.15.html | |
| 15:16 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-01-10-15.15.txt | |
| 15:16 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]10-15.15.log.html | |
| 15:16 | Joubu | that should do the job... |
| 15:17 | LeeJ | sweet |
| 15:17 | great job as usual, guys! | |
| 15:19 | cait | kidclamp++ |
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| 15:28 | fridolin | bravo |
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| 16:06 | oleonard | I missed the tail end of all that. I hope y'all assigned me all the work. |
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| 16:32 | paul_p | oleonard = hello. |
| 16:32 | oleonard | Hi paul_p |
| 16:33 | paul_p | oleonard just seen that you arrive in MArseille early & leave late. Great ! I'll take care or your touristic time ;) |
| 16:33 | oleonard | Sounds great! :D |
| 16:34 | paul_p | oleonard = the WE BEFORE the hackfest, I'll be in Paris. But the WE AFTER, I'll take care ! |
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| 17:19 | Freddy_Enrique | Good afternoon guys! |
| 17:19 | meant to ask, do I have to reindex manually or is it something that it's done automaticaly? | |
| 17:31 | LeeJ | hi Freddy_Enrique I think by default the zebra indexing cron is set to run on a schedule |
| 17:33 | Freddy_Enrique | I see.... I ask it because I after migration (I did the reindex procedure at that time) I kept modifying some bib records and authorities on a daily basis |
| 17:34 | I could just do the reindex, but I wanted to know :). Thanks LeeJ | |
| 17:35 | LeeJ | if I recall correctly, the reindex is defaulted to 15 minutes |
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| 18:36 | Nemo_bis | What's the status of https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ic_Record_support ? |
| 18:37 | Hmm https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=5528#c16 | |
| 18:37 | huginn | Bug 5528: enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ztajoli, CLOSED FIXED, Analytical records support |
| 18:38 | ebegin | Nemo_bis: Closed fixed :) |
| 18:40 | Nemo_bis | Where "the script" is seemingly create_analytical_rel.pl |
| 18:41 | Now wondering if a 773$t qualifies as barcode... let's see the results | |
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| 18:49 | Nemo_bis | Nope, not used |
| 19:16 | Maybe I'm supposed to establish a koha link and then run misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl ? | |
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| 19:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18071: (QA follow-up) Rename commit to confirm parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bde1ce616bf9583d2> / Bug 18071: Improve parameters handling <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7625323aab7cc85fc> / Bug 18071: (QA Followup) - Add additional feedback and expand commit option <http://git.koha-community.org/gi |
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| 20:29 | Joubu | I have a pdf version of the Koha manual, 1050 pages! |
| 20:39 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #332: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/332/ |
| 20:39 | * david.gustafsson: Bug 19471: Show creation date in patron restrictions list | |
| 20:39 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 18071: Add authorities maintenance script | |
| 20:39 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 18071: (QA follow-up) Add commit parameter, add warning | |
| 20:39 | * Nick Clemens: Bug 18071: (QA Followup) - Add additional feedback and expand commit | |
| 20:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18071: Improve parameters handling | |
| 20:39 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 18071: (QA follow-up) Rename commit to confirm parameter | |
| 20:39 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19471 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Pushed to Master , Show creation date in patron restrictions list |
| 20:39 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18071 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Add new script update_authorities.pl | |
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| 20:48 | * cait | waves |
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