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| 06:52 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
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| 07:02 | josef_moravec | morning #koha |
| 07:02 | LibraryClaire | hi josef_moravec |
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| 07:03 | josef_moravec | hi LibraryClaire |
| 07:21 | magnuse | ~~~ |
| 07:22 | LibraryClaire | hi magnuse |
| 07:22 | wahanui | kamelåså |
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| 07:33 | cait | josef_moravec++ early and already on qa :) |
| 07:34 | josef_moravec | cait: hi, yes, i want to do something before toot many people come and want me to do something for them (typical day in work) ;) |
| 07:34 | in work => at work, of course ;) | |
| 07:34 | I hope... ;) | |
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| 07:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:36 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
| 07:36 | josef_moravec | cait: poll filled |
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| 07:37 | fridolin | hie there |
| 07:39 | cait | josef_moravec: know the feeling - had to get this done before work too :) |
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| 07:50 | alex_a | bonnour |
| 07:50 | bonjour | |
| 07:50 | josef_moravec | hi alex_a |
| 07:54 | alex_a | hi josef_moravec |
| 08:13 | LibraryClaire | hi alex_a |
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| 08:20 | cait | good morning #koha .) |
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| 08:20 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:26 | mtj | hey folks, does anyone know of any nice koha-docker repos? |
| 08:26 | something production ready(ish?) | |
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| 08:30 | magnuse | mtj: i know oslo public uses docker |
| 08:30 | in production | |
| 08:31 | https://github.com/digibib/koha-docker | |
| 08:32 | https://hub.docker.com/r/digibib/koha/ | |
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| 08:38 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:39 | LibraryClaire | hi marcelr |
| 08:39 | marcelr | :) |
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| 09:02 | cait | hm no 17.11 demo installation? all I tested so far are still 17.11 |
| 09:03 | i mean 17.05 | |
| 09:05 | Equinox++ | |
| 09:05 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 09:05 | found one on the wiki https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]emo_Installations | |
| 09:07 | 404 when turning on ILL.... is this to be expected? | |
| 09:18 | biblibre++ too | |
| 09:19 | josef_moravec | cait: I don't think so... On Kohadevbox it is ok, so maybe some problem with packages...I guess |
| 09:19 | cait | josef_moravec: or missing config? I will file a bug report |
| 09:19 | josef_moravec | cait: maybe - configuration of ILL module is not so user friendly |
| 09:20 | will change I guess, there is bug for it | |
| 09:20 | cait | hm new bugzilla component for ILL? |
| 09:20 | josef_moravec | bug 19605 |
| 09:20 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19605 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ILL backends should be pluggable through regular Koha plugins |
| 09:20 | cait | yeah |
| 09:20 | josef_moravec | cait: looks like good idea |
| 09:20 | cait | but might be something devs don't notice |
| 09:20 | the error - will file and see, can always be closed:) | |
| 09:21 | josef_moravec | cait: true |
| 09:22 | cait | @later tell Joubu coudl/shoudl we add a new component on bugzilla for the ILL module? |
| 09:22 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:24 | ashimema | @later tell kidclamp ldap should be easy, saml not so much, no idea about CAS |
| 09:24 | huginn` | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:25 | ashimema | @later kidclamp feel free to catch me this afternoon (moring your time) when you're online |
| 09:25 | huginn` | ashimema: I suck |
| 09:25 | LibraryClaire | lol |
| 10:01 | tuxayo | cait: What have I done? there twice the 17.11 BibLibre's demo. Thanks for making me notice that. |
| 10:01 | cait | hm? |
| 10:03 | tuxayo | cait: It was a poorly worded realization that I duplicated by mistake a line in the demo wiki page ^^ |
| 10:03 | cait | ah :) i didn't notie |
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| 10:37 | eythian | hi |
| 10:38 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 10:41 | * eythian | only has two remaining days of work before heading to summer |
| 10:43 | * magnuse | only has today left before heading to gran canaria :-) |
| 10:44 | eythian | oh nice |
| 10:49 | janPasi | can anyone tell me about plack with koha? |
| 10:49 | we're having huge performance problems with it | |
| 10:51 | it seems that as soon as we get more than a handful of users, everything gets really really slow | |
| 10:51 | this wasn't a problem with older version of koha that we were using | |
| 10:57 | tuxayo | janPasi: which are the two versions you are talking about? |
| 10:57 | janPasi | tuxayo: the old one was ancient 3.16 with LOTS of our own code |
| 10:58 | tuxayo: the new one is 17.06 (also with lots of our own code :D) | |
| 10:58 | tuxayo: we're a fairly large public library, so there's all kinds of things that we needed Koha to do | |
| 10:59 | tuxayo | janPasi: wow that must have been a lot of work to perform such a version jump |
| 10:59 | janPasi | tuxayo: ~2 million items / 200000 patrons and around 6 million yearly checkouts |
| 10:59 | tuxayo: yep :D | |
| 11:00 | tuxayo: everything was fine in testing, but of course it all falls to pieces just before production | |
| 11:00 | tuxayo: i'm pretty sure this is a problem with the amount of simultaneous users | |
| 11:00 | tuxayo | janPasi: I don't yet have enough experience to evaluate the size (well 200000 patrons seems "a lot" ^^) |
| 11:01 | janPasi: so you don't have plack at all for now? | |
| 11:01 | janPasi | tuxayo: plack is up and running, but it doesn't seem to perform very well |
| 11:02 | tuxayo | janPasi: oh this is sad. What are you value for "max_requests" and "workers" in the plack config? |
| 11:03 | janPasi | tuxayo: at the moment 16 workers and 400 requests |
| 11:03 | tuxayo: the problem is i have no idea how those values should be :D | |
| 11:03 | tuxayo: missing good pointers | |
| 11:05 | tuxayo | janPasi: 400 should be enough. As for the numbers of the workers, I don't know how to evaluate if the workers are overused or underused. |
| 11:05 | janPasi | yep, that's a hard thing |
| 11:06 | tuxayo | janPasi: The first is to find if Perl execution/compilation is the actual bottle neck. It could be the DB itself or having to access the DB over the network for intance |
| 11:07 | *instance | |
| 11:10 | janPasi | db works perfectly, it's really well tried and tested :) |
| 11:11 | i think there is a fiber connection between the front-end server and db | |
| 11:11 | so i'm pretty sure that's not the problem | |
| 11:13 | i highly doubt that perl compilation/execution is a problem either, we have 32 cpu cores and 128GB memory :D | |
| 11:14 | on two servers | |
| 11:15 | tuxayo | janPasi: then there is a network latency which is much higher than on localhost even with a very good network. |
| 11:15 | Does anyone know how to check if the huge number of the DB queries having to go through a complete network stack is the bottleneck in this case? | |
| 11:15 | That a nice setup you got there :) | |
| 11:15 | janPasi | yeah, it's a fairly large system |
| 11:19 | area wise also, our library covers around 40.000 square kilometers | |
| 11:19 | we have around 60 branches | |
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| 11:21 | tuxayo | janPasi: I think you might be one the biggest instances on many metrics O_O https://hea.koha-community.org/ |
| 11:27 | janPasi | tuxayo: yeah, we've been planning on enabling the reporting to hea |
| 11:28 | tuxayo: it would also be nice to get some of our code out to the community, but that's a bit complicated | |
| 11:28 | tuxayo: mostly technically complicated, all our code is in github, so in theory it's there for anyone to use | |
| 11:29 | tuxayo: we would definetely like to be able to participate the international koha development more | |
| 11:29 | we have around 700 code changes of our own | |
| 11:30 | that's far too much :D | |
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| 12:41 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 12:42 | josef_moravec | hi oleonard |
| 12:42 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
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| 12:55 | tuxayo | janPasi: 700 patches? |
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| 13:03 | cait | can someone help me out with a quck question? looking for the piece of code in Koha that can convert marcxml/mrc |
| 13:03 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #16: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/16/ |
| 13:03 | * david.bourgault: Bug 19683: Fix authority types in tools/export template | |
| 13:03 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 19646: fix value_builder marc21_linking_section template | |
| 13:03 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 19646: (QA follow-up) Fix tab character | |
| 13:03 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 19640: fix OPAC IdRef webservice display | |
| 13:03 | * josef.moravec: Bug 19456: Make patron-title ability to be generated with or without | |
| 13:03 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18833: Plugin unimarc_field_210c pagination error | |
| 13:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19683 normal, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Stable , Export.pl does not populate the Authority Types dropdown correctly |
| 13:03 | jenkins | * kyle: Bug 19533: Hold pulldown for itemtype is empty if hold placement needs |
| 13:03 | * simon.pouchol: Bug 19692: fix unclosed div in opac-shelves.tt | |
| 13:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19646 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , value_builder marc21_linking_section template is broken |
| 13:03 | jenkins | * david.bourgault: Bug 19681: Correct result count formatting |
| 13:03 | * oleonard: Bug 19643: Pagination buttons on staged marc management are stacking | |
| 13:03 | * Nick Clemens: Bug 18990: Overdue Notices are not sending through SMS correctly | |
| 13:04 | * cnighswonger: Bug 10222: Error when saving Demco label templates | |
| 13:04 | * mtompset: Bug 10222: Correct and expand to other languages | |
| 13:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19640 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , IdRef webservice display is broken |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19456 normal, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Some pages title tag contains html | |
| 13:04 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Simon Pouchol |
| 13:04 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19638: Remove false positive obsolete reports (auth_header.marcxml) | |
| 13:04 | * Nick Clemens: Bug 19724: Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata | |
| 13:04 | * Nick Clemens: Bug 19724: DBRev 17.11.00.001 | |
| 13:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18833 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , plugin unimarc_field_210c pagination error |
| 13:04 | jenkins | * Nick Clemens: Bug 19551: Fix wrong order of operations in cash register report |
| 13:04 | * oleonard: Bug 19595: Clicking plugin link does not fill item's date acquired field | |
| 13:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19533 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Hold pulldown for itemtype is empty if hold placement needs override |
| 13:04 | jenkins | * oleonard: Bug 19602: Add usage statistics link to administration sidebar menu |
| 13:04 | * oleonard: Bug 19674: Broken indicators of changed fields in manage staged MARC | |
| 13:04 | * victor.grousset: Bug 12497: Fix search history non-accessible when OPAC was private | |
| 13:04 | * victor.grousset: Bug 12497: Fix OPAC search history reachable by URL even when disabled | |
| 13:04 | * mtompset: Bug 18907: Build has deprecating message | |
| 13:04 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19724: DBIC Schema changes | |
| 13:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19692 trivial, P5 - low, ---, simon.pouchol, Pushed to Stable , Unclosed div in opac-shelves.tt |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19681 trivial, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Stable , label-item-search.pl result count formatting error when there is only one page | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19643 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Pagination buttons on staged marc management are stacking instead of inline | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18990 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Overdue Notices are not sending through SMS correctly | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10222 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Error when saving Demco label templates | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Bug for tracking changes to the about page | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19638 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , False positives for 'Update SQL' button | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19551 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Cash register report has bad erroneous results from wrong order of operations | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19595 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Clicking plugin link does not fill item's date acquired field | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19602 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Add usage statistics link to administration sidebar menu | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19674 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Broken indicators of changed fields in manage staged MARC records template | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12497 minor, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Pushed to Stable , Make OPAC search history feature accessible when it should | |
| 13:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18907 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Warning "dpkg-source: warning: relation < is deprecated: use << or <=" | |
| 13:06 | kidclamp | convert to what cait? |
| 13:06 | janPasi | tuxayo: 700 commits, yeah, around that |
| 13:06 | cait | xml marc to non xml marc |
| 13:06 | question from a coworker | |
| 13:06 | i think Koha can probably do it with the tools we use, but not sure where to start looking | |
| 13:06 | janPasi | tuxayo: we got rid of about a hundred on upgrade from 3.16 to 17.06 |
| 13:07 | cait | as we work on marc records all the time and store xml |
| 13:07 | josef_moravec | cait: maybe MARC::Record perl module? |
| 13:07 | cait | looking at the documentation, got a bit lot maybe, rechecking :) |
| 13:08 | hm not spooting the right way to do it | |
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| 13:10 | cait | MARC::Record::new_from_xml maybe |
| 13:10 | ok,must be missing something, not seeing that in the MARC record documentation | |
| 13:11 | *confused* | |
| 13:12 | i think i found it | |
| 13:12 | it's in MARC::File::XML | |
| 13:13 | jcamins | cait: that's not part of MARC::Record. You want MARC::File::MARCXML |
| 13:13 | Sorry, MARC::File::XML. | |
| 13:13 | And you already figured that out. | |
| 13:13 | :) | |
| 13:14 | cait | am I right that the MARC object can then be written out as a marc file somehow? :) |
| 13:14 | and hi jcamins :) | |
| 13:15 | jcamins | MARC::File::USMARC. :) |
| 13:15 | cait | maybe as_formatted? |
| 13:16 | i guess there is some schema there :) | |
| 13:16 | jcamins | No, as_formatted is just pretty-printed text. |
| 13:16 | You want MARC::File::USMARC::encode() | |
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| 13:17 | cait | thx a lot |
| 13:17 | jcamins++ | |
| 13:27 | tuxayo | janPasi: did those hundred get rid due to the new version having fulfilled the same need? Or was it because it they were too hard to maintain? |
| 13:29 | janPasi | tuxayo: mostly because either the "official" community version of koha had same or similar functionality, or they had become otherwise obsolete |
| 13:29 | tuxayo: there are still a few changes made here that we would like to discard, but it all takes time :) | |
| 13:30 | i think i got that sluggishness in control by tuning up plack variables in koha-conf.xml | |
| 13:30 | tuxayo | janPasi: good, no loss due to the upgrade if I understand correctly? :) |
| 13:30 | janPasi | tuxayo: nope, it's all good in that sense :) |
| 13:31 | tuxayo | janPasi: plack: nice, just the workers and max_requests? |
| 13:31 | janPasi | tuxayo: yep, 32/800, sounds insane to me, but hey, it works |
| 13:32 | tuxayo: well see if we need to adjust them later on | |
| 13:32 | *we'll | |
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| 13:37 | tuxayo | janPasi: 1 request over 400 having to recompile shouldn't be a problem. Then it was the number of workers? Were all the 16 previous workers active (CPU 100% or waiting for IO (DB)) when Koha was slow. |
| 13:38 | janPasi | nope, we had about 10% load then :D |
| 13:38 | the library is closed for the upgrade, so not much use at all | |
| 13:38 | no i/o waits either | |
| 13:39 | we normally run somewere between 40-60% load during opening hours | |
| 13:40 | with practically no i/o delay, we have a SAN system that automatically optimizes itself | |
| 13:40 | it's an array of SSD's and rotating disks | |
| 13:40 | plut the index is kept in ram all the time | |
| 13:40 | *plus | |
| 13:44 | tuxayo: why do i still only see two starman processes in process list? | |
| 13:45 | * tuxayo | sent a long message: tuxayo_2017-12-14_13:45:27.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]CjWgLohUBgqwvfbVW> |
| 13:47 | tuxayo | janPasi: you should see 1 master and N workers. (maybe they are started on demand to not have 32 processes starting at the same time starman/plack is started) |
| 13:49 | janPasi | tuxayo: i'm using nmon because it gives me a nice graph, there is no i/o delay there, it would show up |
| 13:51 | tuxayo | janPasi: I didn't know nmon, looks nice :) |
| 13:52 | janPasi | it's pretty nice, it can do logging also, so you get long term statistics with it fairly easily |
| 13:55 | well it doesn't actually follow koha-conf.xml :D | |
| 13:55 | the plack config that is | |
| 13:56 | you have to change it in the initscript | |
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| 14:04 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 14:04 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
| 14:04 | kidclamp | Joubu around? |
| 14:05 | hmmm...not yet | |
| 14:06 | LeeJ | kidclamp: thanks for helping me get that code fix of mine added so quickly the other day :) |
| 14:07 | kidclamp | np LeeJ |
| 14:07 | marcelr | pvs |
| 14:07 | oops | |
| 14:07 | kidclamp | hi marcelr |
| 14:08 | marcelr | hi kidclamp |
| 14:08 | lvs | |
| 14:09 | LeeJ | hi marcelr |
| 14:09 | marcelr | hi LeeJ |
| 14:12 | janPasi | turns out the plack-initscript is one of ours too, so there... :D |
| 14:13 | have to fix it tomorrow | |
| 14:16 | kidclamp | @later tell Joubu pingme about 19776 |
| 14:16 | huginn` | kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:21 | clrh_ | oh nice, I see sandbox.bywatersolutions.com does the code published somewhere kidclamp khall ? |
| 14:22 | kidclamp | LibraryClaire++ |
| 14:22 | clrh++ | |
| 14:22 | increment all the claires | |
| 14:22 | LibraryClaire | claires++ |
| 14:23 | clrh | it's just a bws++ me,I did nothing =D |
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| 14:41 | LeeJ | so can someone elaborate on C4::Debug? To use it is it basically just "$debug and warn 'Debug message'"? |
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| 15:32 | tuxayo | Cheap automated testing idea: have a bot that clicks on random links and see if there is a 500 error. |
| 15:32 | That way it could be ran on the demos DBs and find regressions with existing data. See BZ 19808 for 3 examples of regressions (one or two are critical) that could have been found this way. | |
| 15:33 | oleonard | tuxayo: I think that's what selenium tests are? |
| 15:33 | tuxayo | oleonard: oh, they are random? |
| 15:33 | oleonard | No, not random |
| 15:35 | tuxayo | oleonard: The idea is to have basic exploratory testing that could be ran on multiple DBs. Does that seem useful? |
| 15:36 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 15:36 | tcohen | thanks |
| 15:36 | cait | tuxayo: I think randomwon't get you so far with koha, because you need to input things here and there or search |
| 15:36 | oleonard | tuxayo: I think most problems surface when testing multiple steps with user input rather than just links. |
| 15:37 | cait | alexbuckley has done a lot of work on selenium tests - if you look for sleenium in bugzilla |
| 15:40 | Joubu | hi #koha |
| 15:42 | tuxayo | \o Joubu |
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| 15:45 | tuxayo | cait: Thanks, there are a lot of scenarios indeed. |
| 15:45 | Wouldn't randomess find enough basic issues? (like whole 500 error pages) | |
| 15:45 | oleonard: Filling inputs could be also done, that would test error handling ^^ | |
| 15:46 | oleonard | tuxayo: If you build something useful it will be useful :) |
| 15:47 | tuxayo | oleonard_: of course ^^ The idea is to estimate the ROI of such a thing. |
| 15:50 | Joubu | cait: ILL component created |
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| 16:11 | tuxayo | Joubu: I confirm that I can work on BZ 19808. For now I have a scenario that doesn't depend on some test DB. I can't finally go into the code to fix the issue. |
| 16:14 | Joubu | tuxayo: I did not get it, you can work on it but cannot fix the issue? |
| 16:15 | cait | Joubu: thx :) |
| 16:19 | tuxayo | Joubu: s/For now/Now |
| 16:19 | Sorry for the confusion, I can work and reproduce it. And it seems rather simple to fix. | |
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| 16:21 | barton | @later tell larryb cindy has an attachement that needs to be removed from an rt ticket; I've been pounding my head against the rt-shredder documentation and could use a second pair of eyes. Thanks! |
| 16:21 | huginn` | barton: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:21 | barton | ack, wrong channel. |
| 16:22 | * cait | hands barton the cookie jar |
| 16:23 | * barton | deposits a mackeroon. |
| 16:25 | cait | was more to take one .) |
| 16:28 | Joubu | cait, kidclamp, josef_moravec: just created https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]ha-rm-1711/us/138 hope that makes sense |
| 16:29 | tuxayo | Coding guidelines question: Which of the two following? (Or is there another better option?) |
| 16:29 | A: if ( not defined $patrons ) { next; } | |
| 16:29 | B: next if ( not defined $patrons ); | |
| 16:30 | * barton | is tempted to expound on the origins of browser cookies, but is afriad that he will go down a several hour rabbit hole. Do a google search for Dan O'Niel / Odd Bodkins, if you've got a couple of hours to kill, it's a trip worth taking. |
| 16:33 | Joubu | tuxayo: definitely it's: "next unless defined $patrons;" |
| 16:34 | tuxayo | Joubu: thanks :) |
| 16:39 | cait | thx :) |
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| 17:02 | LeeJ | barton++ |
| 17:03 | :) | |
| 17:05 | cait | LeeJ: I cleaned up the general kanban a bit - i assigned you some tasks I had befor to do with documentation, not sure if youwant to continue/close them |
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| 17:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:13 | Joubu | @later tell rangi from help.pl we have "See the full documentation for Koha in the manual (online)." the link is https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/ which returns a 404, could you add a redirect to https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/en/html/ ? |
| 17:13 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:18 | Joubu | @later tell rangi well, there are all the others as well :-/ https://koha-community.org/man[…]acquisitions.html |
| 17:18 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:23 | LeeJ | cait: okay! I'll take a look at them. Thanks! |
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| 18:47 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #17: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/17/ |
| 18:47 | * aleishaamohia: Bug 19496: Fixing to_address for patron notes | |
| 18:47 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19496: ReplytoDefault is a pref, not a C4::Context method | |
| 18:47 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Victor Grousset | |
| 18:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19496 major, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Stable , Patron notes about item does not get emailed as indicated |
| 18:47 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19775: Try & prevent Search/History.t to fail randomly |
| 18:47 | * oleonard: Bug 19751: Holds awaiting pickup report should not be fixed-width | |
| 18:47 | * josef.moravec: Bug 19292: Add MARC code column on libraries list | |
| 18:47 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 19439: Remove eval with exit statements from opac/unapi | |
| 18:47 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 19439: (follow-up) Remove four spaces from lines 133-149 | |
| 18:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 18:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19775 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Search/History.t is failing randomly | |
| 18:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holds awaiting pickup report should not be fixed-width | |
| 18:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19292 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Add MARC code column on libraries list | |
| 18:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19439 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Some error responses from opac/unapi get lost in eval | |
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| 19:07 | magnuse | have fun #koha - see y'all after xmas! |
| 19:14 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19776: (follow-up) remove dup category_type keys <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38dddc6090c1b541f> |
| 19:14 | rangi | @later tell Joubu I can but wouldn't it be better to let people pick the language of the manual they want to see? |
| 19:14 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:15 | rangi | I'll do the redirect for now, but it would be good to get it hooked to the language the staff client is in, to choose the right link |
| 19:16 | LeeJ | can anyone shed some light on how to make output print to the log files? Can't seem to get it to work for debugging purposes |
| 19:17 | rangi | which log file? |
| 19:17 | and which process? | |
| 19:17 | LeeJ | any really..just trying to get some sort of log output |
| 19:17 | rangi | well then the answer is it depends |
| 19:17 | :) | |
| 19:18 | you really need to know which log you are trying to get output to, and from what process | |
| 19:18 | Joubu | rangi: yes definitely but we need to fix existing links asap |
| 19:18 | rangi | ie if you're talking SIP, thats gonna be syslog |
| 19:18 | LeeJ | I'm working on improving my booking plugin but some data isn't printing out and I was trying to log the output somehow to see what was going on |
| 19:18 | rangi | plack is going to be plack-error.log |
| 19:19 | Joubu: its being rewritten now | |
| 19:20 | so the links will work | |
| 19:20 | Joubu | perfect, thanks! |
| 19:20 | rangi | LeeJ: if you are running just cgi, it will be one of the apache error logs (using a warn) |
| 19:21 | hopefully that helps the annoying thing with plack-error.log is it has staff and public interface stuff in it, same with plack.log | |
| 19:21 | would be good to separate that out | |
| 19:23 | LeeJ | thanks rangi...I added in some warns so I should find it somewhere. Just have to figure out which log file :P |
| 19:24 | rangi | are you running plack? it should be in plack-error.log under /var/log/koha/instancename/ |
| 19:24 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, rangi. |
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| 19:25 | LeeJ | yes I'm running plack |
| 19:26 | for some reason warns hadn't been printing there but I'm going to try again | |
| 19:28 | rangi | you do need to restart plack each time |
| 19:28 | (just in case) | |
| 19:35 | LeeJ | okay I'll give it a try :) |
| 19:40 | gahhh | |
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| 19:40 | LeeJ | rangi: if I write "warn 'Testing logging!';" that should still log in plack-error.log? Because it's not :( |
| 19:43 | ah! it didn't write it to plack-error.log..it wrote it to intranet-error.log | |
| 19:43 | rangi | it should yes, as long as the script you are writing it in is the one being executed :) |
| 19:43 | ahh hmm then it isnt running under plack | |
| 19:43 | worth noting that | |
| 19:43 | LeeJ | that's strange...plack is running |
| 19:44 | wonder if this is in any way related to the plugin error with plack from a while ago | |
| 19:46 | rangi | it might be that plugins aren't in the path that plack executes |
| 19:46 | might have to check the apache config | |
| 19:47 | LeeJ | but oddly enough the logging wasn't working with plack not running |
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| 19:49 | LeeJ | ugh...RIP Net Neutrality :( |
| 19:55 | rangi | weird |
| 19:55 | and yeah, thats a mess | |
| 19:56 | LeeJ | it is weird..I'm trying to run a SELECT query method and return the results for display..the query via method doesn't return anything but it DOES return results using koha-mysql with the same identical query |
| 19:56 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #311: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/311/ |
| 19:56 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 19776: (follow-up) remove dup category_type keys | |
| 19:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19776 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Test failing randomly - fix categorycode vs category_type |
| 19:56 | * LeeJ | smashes head off desk |
| 20:04 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19767: Remove unused serial-issues.pl script <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9bd92b1ffc10036d7> / Bug 18330: (follow-up) Adapt holds.t to match the new datetime format <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e3671f6119ad56357> / Bug 18330: Handle date-time in Koha::Object->TO_JSON <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
| 20:04 | * cait | waves |
| 20:04 | * LeeJ | waves to cait |
| 20:05 | cait | :) |
| 20:09 | pastebot | "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is anything in this written wrong?" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/113 |
| 20:09 | LeeJ | what did I write wrong that would cause this method to always return nothing? |
| 20:13 | Joubu | you should use $dbh->selectall_arrayref($query, {Slice => {}}) |
| 20:13 | but it will not fix your problem | |
| 20:13 | I guess the query returns 0 row :) | |
| 20:14 | LeeJ | Joubu: the weird thing is the same query actually returns 2 results (as it should) via koha-mysql |
| 20:15 | rangi | can anyone remember, what value you need to set the LOST authorised value to, so that when you mark something lost it returns it off a borrowers card? |
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| 20:16 | LeeJ | rangi: I believe it's 3 (Lost and Paid For) |
| 20:16 | rangi | thanks |
| 20:18 | cait | it all does |
| 20:18 | doesn't matter | |
| 20:18 | rangi | even negative? |
| 20:18 | cait | but you need to return it from the items tab not the edit item form |
| 20:18 | all the default values we have are positive, never tried negative | |
| 20:18 | but if you return from the item form = remians on the account, if you return from detai page, items tab = gets returend | |
| 20:19 | rangi | thanks cait |
| 20:19 | cait | http://bywatersolutions.com/2015/02/23/lost-koha/ |
| 20:19 | LeeJ | cait++ |
| 20:19 | cait | and with the longoverdues script you can choose i think (but i remember there was some bug there) |
| 20:21 | rangi | right, this is just for my kids chool |
| 20:21 | school even | |
| 20:21 | marking books lost from the interface at the end of the year | |
| 20:24 | LeeJ | that makes sense |
| 20:24 | ugh...I've given up on figuring out that problem for today. It gave me a migraine | |
| 20:26 | * cait | hands LeeJ the cookie jar |
| 20:26 | cait | ginger bread cookies with lemon icing |
| 20:26 | Joubu | bug 12363 |
| 20:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12363 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Marking an item as lost in koha always returns it, but longoverdue.pl may not |
| 20:26 | LeeJ | oooooh |
| 20:26 | those sound delicious | |
| 20:26 | cait | and sprinkles! |
| 20:26 | LeeJ | :D |
| 20:26 | Joubu | ('always' is wrong) |
| 20:27 | gmcharlt_: Hi, Are you admin of https://gitlab.com/koha-community? | |
| 20:27 | someone else here? | |
| 20:28 | mtj: ^? | |
| 20:28 | wahanui | ^ is what I think too |
| 20:29 | cait | not me |
| 20:29 | :) | |
| 20:37 | gmcharlt_ | Joubu: not me either |
| 20:37 | Joubu | ok, certainly mtj then :) |
| 20:39 | * cait | thinks that's a good guess |
| 20:41 | LeeJ | well I'm gonna head out for some R & R to get rid of this headache |
| 20:41 | have a good night all | |
| 20:41 | cait | LeeJ: goodnight, get better |
| 20:41 | LeeJ | cait: thanks! :) |
| 20:45 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #312: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/312/ |
| 20:45 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19560: Correctly escape branchcode in admin/branches.pl | |
| 20:45 | * alexbuckley: Bug 19514: Implement password restrictions into onboarding tool | |
| 20:45 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19514: Add client-side check | |
| 20:45 | * oleonard: Bug 19758: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 1 | |
| 20:45 | * oleonard: Bug 19761: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 2 | |
| 20:45 | * oleonard: Bug 19777: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 3 | |
| 20:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19560 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Unable to delete library when branchcode contains special characters |
| 20:45 | jenkins | * oleonard: Bug 19778: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 4 |
| 20:45 | * oleonard: Bug 19607: Move admin templates JavaScript to the footer: Basic | |
| 20:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19514 major, P3, ---, alexbuckley, Pushed to Master , No Password restrictions in onboarding tool patron creation |
| 20:45 | jenkins | * oleonard: Bug 19627: Move patron clubs templates JS to the footer |
| 20:45 | * oleonard: Bug 19627: (follow-up) Include tools-menu.js on required templates | |
| 20:45 | * oleonard: Bug 19663: Move JS to the footer: Reports | |
| 20:45 | * lari.taskula: Bug 18330: Add RFC3339 to Koha::DateUtils | |
| 20:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 1 |
| 20:45 | jenkins | * lari.taskula: Bug 18330: Handle date-time in Koha::Object->TO_JSON |
| 20:45 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18330: (follow-up) Adapt holds.t to match the new datetime format | |
| 20:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 2 |
| 20:45 | jenkins | * oleonard: Bug 19767: Remove unused serial-issues.pl script |
| 20:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19777 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 3 |
| 20:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19778 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 4 | |
| 20:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move admin templates JavaScript to the footer: Basic parameters | |
| 20:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19627 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move patron clubs templates JS to the footer | |
| 20:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19663 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move JS to the footer: Reports | |
| 20:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Pushed to Master , REST API: Date-time handling | |
| 20:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19767 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , serial-issues.pl is unused and should be removed | |
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| 21:37 | cait | kidclamp_away: ping |
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| 23:36 | jenkins | Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #90: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/90/ |
| 23:36 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 19655: Use ->build instead of build_object in 16.11.x | |
| 23:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19655 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , To.json doesn't escape newlines which can create invalid JSON |
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