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01:42 | jmsasse | Pretty quiet around these parts today. |
01:42 | Almost too quiet... | |
01:56 | BobB: Hello. How goes it in Sydney? | |
01:56 | wizzyrea | hi jmsasse |
01:56 | jmsasse | hi wizzyrea. |
01:57 | What's shaking? | |
01:57 | wizzyrea | thankfully not wellington :) |
01:57 | jmsasse | Good to hear. |
01:57 | wizzyrea | how about you? |
01:58 | jmsasse | Same old, same old. |
01:58 | wizzyrea | (because we have earthquakes ya? :)) |
01:58 | jmsasse | Yes, I've heard of a few in the news. |
01:58 | * wizzyrea | guesses that means that the library is doing well and things are ticking along |
01:59 | jmsasse | Yes, ticking is a good way to describe things |
01:59 | wizzyrea | hopefully not ticking you off ;) |
02:00 | jmsasse | Studying for Linux+ and LPIC-1 certs |
02:00 | Well... | |
02:00 | wizzyrea | oh that's fun, the certs, not the ticking. |
02:01 | jmsasse | Yeah, I'm looking to improve my lot in life. |
02:04 | How are you and the hubby? | |
02:04 | wizzyrea | doin good :) |
02:07 | jmsasse | rangi: Howdy again |
02:15 | rangi | hey again :) |
02:17 | jmsasse | I heard today a system in Oregon is putting a bid to host KohaCon next year. |
02:18 | rangi | cool |
02:20 | jmsasse | It'll be nice to catch up with all of you overseas folks again. |
02:24 | :) | |
02:24 | wizzyrea | has it really been 3 years since there was one in the US? |
02:24 | jmsasse | Coming up on 4 years this Oct. |
02:25 | If there's anything left of America then...:( | |
02:27 | wizzyrea | :( |
02:29 | jmsasse | Koha-US will be in Idaho this year. Everyone seems to favor the west. |
02:31 | OMG, Windows Cortana is talking to me! | |
02:31 | wizzyrea | super creepy when that happens |
02:32 | jmsasse | It really startled me. Installing Win10 virtual machine and bam!, there she was |
02:48 | dcook | Oregon, eh? That's Pacific Northwest enough to basically be its own country. Maybe I could come to that. |
02:48 | wizzyrea | you could go to vancouver and wave to kohacon |
02:49 | but don't try to take your laptop :P | |
02:50 | dcook | hehe |
02:50 | Right timezone so I could follow along I'm sure from the library or something | |
02:50 | jmsasse | I think Canadians are safe. Yoour from Regina,right dcook? |
02:52 | dcook | Yep. Good memory. |
02:52 | Or good Googling :p | |
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02:54 | jmsasse | Nah, I remember. |
02:58 | dcook | What versions of Debian are we supporting again? |
02:58 | Jessie and Wheezy or just Jessie? | |
02:58 | Probably Jessie and Wheezy | |
02:58 | wizzyrea | not squeeze, wheezy is getting close to going out |
02:58 | and whatever the next one is | |
02:59 | jmsasse | I switched from Jessie to Deb 9 testing, SId I think. |
02:59 | Not sure if they have a codename for it yet. | |
03:00 | wizzyrea | Sid, that sounds right |
03:01 | BobB | hi jmsasse still about? |
03:01 | jmsasse | BobB: yes I am. |
03:02 | BobB | hey |
03:02 | jmsasse | Coming to the States this August? |
03:03 | BobB | hmmm |
03:03 | still hoping to, but its not looking completely positive | |
03:03 | we will be going to LA in October to meet a new grandchild, all being well :) | |
03:04 | will you be in Idaho jsaasse? | |
03:04 | jmsasse | It would be a treat to see you and Irma again. |
03:04 | Yes, I will. | |
03:04 | BobB | cool |
03:04 | we'd love to come | |
03:05 | irma has family in Seattle area too | |
03:05 | so fingers crossed, but will have to see | |
03:05 | jmsasse | Congrats on your grandchild :) |
03:05 | BobB | #1 is 18mths old now and we are overdue for a cuddle |
03:05 | dcook | Hmm where's eythian when you need him |
03:05 | BobB | and #2 is due in Oct |
03:06 | dcook | rangi: Are you still around? I'm sure you'd know the answer.. |
03:06 | Actually, maybe I'll just poke around | |
03:06 | wizzyrea | i wish my parents would have the "overdue for a cuddle" feeling |
03:06 | BobB | aw wizz |
03:06 | jmsasse | :) |
03:06 | wizzyrea | but they require me to bring the cuddle to them |
03:06 | which is spendy :/ | |
03:07 | BobB | are they in Kansas? |
03:07 | wizzyrea | yeah |
03:07 | BobB | QF put LA on sale yesterday, but yeah, still spendy |
03:08 | dcook | So librdf-trine-perl_1.011.orig.tar.gz contains the original original source... |
03:08 | Then librdf-trine-perl_1.011-2.debian.tar.xz will contain any patches that maintainers have made? | |
03:09 | BobB | joel I'll let you know when we decide ok? |
03:09 | jmsasse | BobB: I envy your ability to be on a plane that long. |
03:09 | I would need to be be sedated. | |
03:09 | BobB | well its never fun, its just to be endured, for a purpose |
03:09 | alcohol works :) | |
03:10 | though I avoid it, dehydrating | |
03:10 | jmsasse | With all the incidents on US airlines lately, that may not be the best idea |
03:11 | BobB | yeah is it still safe to come to US? |
03:11 | today we heard of an aussie guy got detained for overstaying his visa 90 minutes | |
03:11 | jmsasse | That's a good question.. |
03:12 | BobB | Immigration people are never friendly, now it seems they have license to be even more overbearing |
03:13 | jmsasse | I saw that a person is suing an airline for being stuck between two obese people on a flight from Austrailia to US |
03:13 | BobB | i always try to get an aisle seat, so at least can escape for a while |
03:13 | jmsasse | Aussie, I believe. Claims back injury, etc. |
03:13 | dcook | BobB: That's old news. I think he got released today after two weeks in prison :). |
03:14 | BobB | anyhoo, customers waiting, will keep you updated jsasse |
03:14 | jmsasse | I go for the aisle too. |
03:15 | Thanks, Bob. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you in August. | |
03:15 | BobB | two weeks! crikey |
03:15 | will do, thx | |
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03:16 | dcook | Hmm looks like the RDF::Trine in Jessie is buggy... |
03:17 | wizzyrea | plane rides aren't so bad, basically think of it like a really uncomfortable sleepover. |
03:17 | long ones anyway | |
03:17 | dcook | I don't even mind the long ones so much |
03:17 | wizzyrea | you get on, they give you food |
03:17 | dcook | I had a 10 month old baby on the last one |
03:17 | wizzyrea | you eat it, go to sleep |
03:17 | wake up, they feed you | |
03:17 | dcook | Mind you, they slept 7.5/15 hours, so that wasn't so bad |
03:17 | wizzyrea | you feel excited because there are only 4 more hours, watch a few movies |
03:18 | jmsasse | I'm not able to sleep in public and am a bit claustrophobic. |
03:19 | Tall as well, so scrunched too. | |
03:20 | Complete sedation from start to finish would be for me. | |
03:20 | They do it for dental work, maybe they'll start for long flights:) | |
03:22 | dcook | Hmm maybe drojf will be on tonight.. |
03:34 | jmsasse | Koha, I bid you adieu. A bientot. |
03:43 | dcook | If we do use RDF::Trine, that means we'll have to roll a newer version ourselves... I think this has come up before.. |
03:51 | Oh man... bulk ops must never have worked with RDF::Trine::Store::SPARQL.. | |
03:51 | Although my latest patch makes it work :D | |
04:30 | Attean might be an alternative to RDF::Trine but it has a lot of dependencies... | |
04:30 | It is in Debian though.. | |
04:30 | Hmm ancient version though maybe | |
04:31 | Whatever. I'll chat to drojf about it. | |
04:44 | Ahh I forgot that fredericd was interested in RDF... | |
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05:17 | josef_moravec | morning #koha |
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05:25 | * dcook | waves to folk |
05:25 | dcook | Hmm trying to remember how to get Debian to update their packages.. |
05:26 | I know eythian raised an issue on Zebra 2.0.59 with https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=777515 | |
05:26 | But I don't think anyone ever answered or updated the package.. | |
05:28 | Same maintainer does libmarc-record-perl apparently... | |
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05:43 | dcook | @later tell fredericd I recall you having an interest in RDF? Let me know if you're still interested. I'm doing some work with magnuse on this topic. |
05:43 | huginn_ | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
06:04 | * magnuse | waves |
06:05 | dcook | heya magnuse |
06:06 | magnuse | howdy dcook |
06:06 | is there a typical australian greeting? | |
06:06 | or a canadian-australian one? | |
06:07 | dcook | Mmm g'day is traditional for Australians I think |
06:07 | As for Canadians.. | |
06:07 | * dcook | ponders |
06:07 | dcook | I think we just say "hey" |
06:07 | Or heya like I do when I'm feeling extra casual | |
06:13 | Hmm | |
06:13 | @search rdf | |
06:13 | huginn_ | dcook: There were no matching configuration variables. |
06:13 | dcook | Right |
06:13 | @query rdf | |
06:13 | huginn_ | dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Linked Data/RDF Omnibus |
06:13 | dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add "Save as RDF" option to the OPAC | |
06:13 | dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add a Linked Data/RDF browser to the OPAC | |
06:13 | * dcook | breaks everything |
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06:26 | reiveune | hello |
06:26 | wahanui | bidet, reiveune |
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07:46 | marcelr | hi #koha |
07:53 | josef_moravec | hi marcelr |
07:53 | marcelr | o/ |
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08:00 | cait | morning #koha |
08:00 | magnuse: around? | |
08:00 | josef_moravec | hello cait |
08:00 | magnuse | yup |
08:00 | marcelr | hi cait magnuse |
08:01 | cait | hi josef_moravec and marcelr |
08:01 | magnuse | if i can remember how to edit it... |
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08:05 | cait | magnuse++ |
08:05 | i think the other jobs can be moved to archive | |
08:06 | https://magnusenger.github.io/koha-jobs/ for the logs .) | |
08:08 | * magnuse | moved the old jobs to old jobs |
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08:38 | ashimema | koha-jobs is a new one on me |
08:41 | cait | seems germany is in the lead with Koha jobs :) |
08:48 | eythian | hi |
08:49 | LibraryClaire | hi eythian |
08:49 | wahanui | LibraryClaire++ |
08:49 | LibraryClaire | ^^ |
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08:54 | cait | hello eythian |
08:55 | eythian | hi LibraryClaire, hi cait |
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09:58 | fridolin | hie tehre |
09:58 | * cait | waves+ |
10:09 | cait | jajm++ |
10:10 | jajm | hi :) |
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11:32 | sonOfRa | Hello Folks. I'm currently looking for a solution to manage our institute's library (around 4000 books). Currently there is no real management system. There's a "wikindx" instance, which just lists what books should be *theoretically* available, but it has no facilities to manage books that are currently in the hands of a certain user. |
11:33 | Would koha be suitable for this? I don't have any strict requirements like deadlines etc, the only reason for the installation would be a "who has which book" registry | |
11:33 | Things that would be nice: LDAP user management (as far as I can tell, koha is capable of this), and LaTeX exports of citations | |
11:41 | eythian | sonOfRa: because everyone else seems to be at lunch or something, the short answer is "yes" |
11:41 | It'll do a whole lot more too, but whether you use that is up to you. | |
11:43 | sonOfRa | Awesome. |
11:43 | wahanui | That'll be NOK 10 for the awesome jar, sonOfRa |
11:43 | sonOfRa | wahanui: do you pass the turing test? |
11:43 | wahanui | sonofra: wish i knew |
11:44 | sonOfRa | Well, I'll get to installing a test instance and see if any questions arise in the process. Thanks! |
11:44 | eythian | np |
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11:49 | oleonard | Hi all |
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12:10 | sonOfRa | So, I got a test instance up and running, and clicked my way through the web setup wizard. After it was done, it proceeded to log me out. Now I can't log back in, the data I used for logging in when starting the wizard is rejected |
12:10 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]e_a_Koha_instance I followed this guide | |
12:13 | oleonard | sonOfRa: You should be able to confirm the correct credentials by looking at koha-conf.xml |
12:14 | In the <config> section look for <user> and <pass> | |
12:15 | sonOfRa: What version did you install? | |
12:17 | sonOfRa | koha-common/stable,now 16.11.06. |
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12:18 | oleonard | Okay, so at this point you will only have the database user available to log in. So my suggestion above should work. |
12:19 | sonOfRa | Verified the credentials in the koha.xml file: https://slevermann.de/public/koha-creds.png (don't worry, the instance isn't publicly reachable, the passwords visible in the screenshot won't help anyone) |
12:20 | Aha, it works with the *other* password, listed under <serverinfo> rather than <config> | |
12:20 | I suppose the one in <config> is the password for the mysql-user to access the database. | |
12:22 | oleonard | I wouldn't have expected the <serverinfo> credentials to work. |
12:22 | But you're in? | |
12:23 | sonOfRa | Yep |
12:24 | Now it's telling me to create a user, library, patron types etc. Excellent | |
12:27 | Is it generally recommended to have 2 accounts for a user who is both a staff member *and* a patron who can borrow books? Or can I safely borrow books as a staff member? | |
12:27 | oleonard | You can borrow books as a staff member |
12:28 | You'd only need more than one account if you wanted to test how the different permissions work | |
12:29 | As long as you at least have an account with "superlibrarian" permissions you have the minimum required to work with the staff client. | |
12:29 | And by "work with" I mean "test" | |
12:29 | Of course you don't need to be a "superlibrarian" to do day to day operations. | |
12:30 | sonOfRa | Yeah, I just gave myself superlibrarian status, going to play around with adding books and people now. |
12:33 | https://perldoc.koha-community[…]th_with_ldap.html hmmm, do you happen to know if this supports TLS to connect to LDAP? | |
12:33 | It seems to take just an LDAP host, but no protocol specifier | |
12:34 | ashimema | host can include protocol |
12:34 | ldaps:// I beleive from memory | |
12:34 | sonOfRa | Great |
12:34 | Yeah. Might have to set that up properly, because currently we only have starttls set up, I believe (which connects to the ldap:// port, but then upgrades to TLS) | |
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12:39 | tcohen | hola #koha |
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12:45 | sonOfRa | I'm completely ignorant of how *professional* libraries are managed, but is there a simpler UI to add new books (or other records) than the rather complicated-looking UI under the Cataloguing menu? |
12:45 | I don't even know what half these fields *mean* | |
12:45 | oleonard | It's okay most librarians don't either ;) |
12:46 | sonOfRa: One good method is to use the Z39.50 search to import existing records which match the titles you have | |
12:47 | I don't know if you imported all the sample data? Some Z39.50 servers should have been included in that I think | |
12:47 | sonOfRa | Ah, I haven't seen any sample data. I suppose I can try finding those. |
12:47 | The search told me I didn't have any targets to search, I suppose that's because I didn't import any search servers | |
12:48 | oleonard | sonOfRa: The installation process should have given you the option of including some sample data |
12:48 | sonOfRa | Must've missed that or skipped it |
12:50 | oleonard | http://zivotdesign.com/p/uploa[…]f2cb92cfeab74.png |
12:51 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "sonOfRa: Sample Z39.50 server data" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/405 |
12:52 | magnuse | or use the Fast Add framework if you can't import records |
12:53 | can i do another ncip call in 38 minutes ? | |
12:54 | sonOfRa | oleonard-away: thanks, that looks helpful |
12:55 | Fast Add framework also sounds good. I'll look into these things | |
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12:59 | sonOfRa | Connection to the library of congress servers fails. Are those only available to american IP addresses, by chance? |
13:04 | tcohen | marcelr: oops :-D |
13:04 | marcelr | assumptions-- |
13:05 | tcohen | UNIMARC-- |
13:05 | joking | |
13:05 | sonOfRa | Hm. Don't see a fast add framework in this instance. Is there a way I can limit this to essentially "Enter a Title, an Author, and an ISBN(if present)", and that's it? I'm afraid the person who will end up adding all these fields will be quite overwhelmed with the many fields |
13:05 | marcelr | joking++ |
13:06 | sonOfRa | Some of the entries may not even be classified with anything, because they might be internal papers, unpublished dissertations, all kinds of things |
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13:19 | eythian | hi tcohen, marcelr |
13:19 | marcelr | hallo eythian |
13:21 | eythian | I hope you got the Rijskmuseum cleaned up. |
13:21 | tcohen | hi eythian |
13:21 | wahanui | tcohen++ |
13:21 | tcohen | hahaha |
13:26 | eythian | wahanui feels that people need more positive reinforcement. |
13:26 | wahanui | eythian: excuse me? |
13:26 | eythian | wahanui: you heard me |
13:26 | wahanui | eythian: what? |
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13:48 | Joubu | mtj: could you take a look at bug 18066? It would be great to have it backported to all stable versions for the next releases |
13:48 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Hea - Version 2 |
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13:55 | Joubu | @later tell mtj: could you take a look at bug 18066? It would be great to have it backported to all stable versions for the next releases |
13:55 | huginn_ | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
13:56 | mtj | hiya Joubu, yep, i do plan to :0) |
13:57 | Joubu | thx |
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14:09 | oleonard | sonOfRa still around? |
14:11 | Joubu | cait, jajm, mtj: bug 18442 should be backported for the next release |
14:11 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18442 critical, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Pushed to Master , Permission error when logging into staff interface as db user |
14:11 | Joubu | oleonard: it sounds like it is the bug sonOfRa described earlier |
14:12 | oleonard | Interesting. But why could they log in as the zebra db user? |
14:13 | eythian | hi mtj, aren't you up late? |
14:14 | oleonard | hi eythian |
14:14 | wahanui | oleonard++ |
14:14 | eythian | hi oleopard |
14:18 | mtj | hiya eythian, yeah, is late here.. i just happened to be up, having a little snack :) |
14:19 | eythian | fair enough :) |
14:19 | oleonard | snacks++ |
14:19 | snacks | hi eythian |
14:19 | wahanui | snacks++ |
14:19 | eythian | heh |
14:20 | Joubu | oleonard: the zebra db?? |
14:21 | I did not read everything carefully, just a quick backlog | |
14:21 | oleonard | the user and password in <serverinfo id="biblioserver"> |
14:24 | Joubu | I do not recreate that |
14:25 | oleonard | Yeah I don't know what was going on there. |
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14:38 | CrispyBran | bag: are you there/ |
14:38 | ? | |
14:41 | oleonard | @seen bag |
14:41 | huginn_ | oleonard: bag was last seen in #koha 16 hours, 53 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <bag> if there is baseball I’m there :P |
14:41 | eythian | http://tassenmuseum.nl/en/ <-- bag, there's a museum for you here. |
14:43 | oleonard | Where is a museum of all the leopards. |
14:43 | eythian | (with a bit of a Duchlish exhibition name at the moment, of course.) |
14:45 | http://www.leopoldmuseum.org/en <-- best I can do, sorry oleopard | |
14:45 | oleopold, that is | |
14:45 | kidclamp | http://www.retemusealebelicina[…]o-del-gattopardo/ |
14:46 | oleonard | #koha comes through |
14:46 | eythian | ah, good find |
14:47 | LibraryClaire | gattopardo :D |
14:47 | * oleonard | would definitely check out the Leopold Museum |
14:48 | eythian | It's a horse made of gateau |
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14:49 | oleonard | "The Leopard...is considered one of the most important novels in modern Italian literature." Never heard of it. Curse my American public education. |
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14:58 | oleonard | When LibraryClaire gets back from reading The Leopard I'll have to ask her how she liked it. |
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15:40 | reiveune | bye |
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15:47 | Joubu | @later tell drojf ping! |
15:47 | huginn_ | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
15:51 | * Joubu | is going to write a script to automatically fail QA when changes are not covered by tests... |
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16:02 | ashimema | :) |
16:17 | CrispyBran | @seen bag |
16:17 | huginn_ | CrispyBran: bag was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <bag> if there is baseball I’m there :P |
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17:46 | oleonard | Why does the staff client have a means of displaying a suggestion's "patronreason" but the OPAC doesn't have a way for the patron to give it? |
17:50 | edveal_lunch | oleonard, sounds like backend dev before front end dev. Or just, "oh well,we don't really need their reson"... LOL |
17:51 | oleonard | Luckily git is around to blame ME FROM 2011 :( |
17:52 | I hate that guy, he was the worst. | |
17:53 | edveal | LOL So you wern't really interested in the reson why they made the suggestion where you? |
17:55 | oleonard | Ah never mind oleonard from 2011, you're off the hook. "patronreason" will only display authorized values. |
17:57 | CrispyBran | what does it mean when I do a git pull and the fetch failed? |
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18:03 | oleonard | CrispyBran: Did it fail with an error message? |
18:04 | CrispyBran | error: Unable to find 375ee2663ab254ad4bfc5ce4166b02cc6d4b20d9 under http://git.koha-community.org/koha.git |
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18:07 | oleonard | Sorry CrispyBran I don't know |
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18:12 | CrispyBran | Cannot obtain needed tree blah while processing commit blah. Seems to think I am processing a commit |
18:16 | oleonard | Bug 18584 is a good idea Joubu |
18:16 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18584 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Our legacy code contains trailing-spaces |
18:17 | * oleonard | shakes his fist at trailing spaces |
18:19 | Joubu | It will be used in conjunction with the didactic tutorial I am writing |
18:19 | oleonard | I like it |
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20:57 | kellym | back |
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22:01 | CrispyBran | anyone having trouble doing a git pull today? |
22:03 | rangi | nope |
22:04 | CrispyBran | :/ Okay then. Back to the drawing board. |
22:06 | rangi | did you google the error? sounds like your local repo is a little messed up |
22:08 | CrispyBran | Yes I did. Trying to figure out how to fix it. |
22:09 | rangi | have you tried a git gc |
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22:10 | CrispyBran | No. I don't know that one. |
22:14 | Hmmmm.... No space left on device | |
22:14 | dir | |
22:14 | rangi | ah ha |
22:14 | theres your real problem ;-) | |
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22:46 | CrispyBran | Anyone know how to get more space on the kohadevbox? |
22:48 | rangi | yeah, its not easy |
22:49 | but alexbuckley wrote it all up | |
22:49 | 2 secs | |
22:50 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]izing_your_devbox | |
23:05 | CrispyBran | rangi thanks. I'll have to pick alex's brain on this. Some of the commands are not recognized. |
23:05 | have a good night all | |
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