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04:41 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
05:00 | alexbuckley | hi mveron |
05:00 | mveron | hi alexbuckley |
05:03 | alexbuckley | I have submitted a patch for your bug 18438, not sure if it is exactly what you were requiring, but it is how I interpreted it |
05:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18438 major, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Needs Signoff , Check in: Modal about holds hides important check in messages |
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05:09 | alexbuckley | hi cait |
05:37 | cait | hi alexbuckley |
05:37 | congratulations on pqa! | |
05:38 | alexbuckley | thanks I'm very grateful to you, mveron, joubu and everyone whose helped |
05:38 | * mveron | waves |
05:40 | cait | didn't do muc, but glad it made it in |
05:40 | is there something that still needs testing? | |
05:40 | i lost track of the dependencies a bit | |
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05:49 | alexbuckley | mveron has signed off bug 17956 which is the SIP, LDAP information pages at the end of the onboarder I am not sure if you are able to do a QA test on that? |
05:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Signed Off , Provide additional functionality in the onboarding tool through configuring z-targets, and providing information on setting up SIP and LDAP services |
05:49 | cait | what happened to the languages? all done? |
05:51 | mveron | cait: Hi :-) - Do you mean the German translations? If yes - yes. |
05:51 | cait | hi mveron |
05:51 | talking about the german onboarding version :) | |
05:52 | and thx for doing the translations - you beat me to it :) | |
05:52 | there was discussion about the onboarding tool only working with english -t hat's why i am asking if there is any work left to do there still | |
05:52 | mveron | Oh, that I do not know. |
05:53 | cait | alexbuckley? |
05:53 | wahanui | i guess alexbuckley is just writing nice commit messages for the patches, and then it will be testable :) |
05:54 | alexbuckley | It wasnt the onboarding tool itself that needed languages SQL files moved it was the web installer improvement which were subsequently moved off into a different bug report so the web installer improvements which was the bit that required the languages was split off into a separate bug report. |
05:55 | The languages patches in 18039 ideally need to be split into multiple seperate bug reports to get them signed off faster. I am not sure how to split the patches for a bug off when there are so many | |
05:55 | cait | bug 18039 |
05:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18039 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the mandatory and optional files for non-english languages into 'default' directory so bug 17855 permits use of other languages |
05:55 | cait | so the currently pqa stuff will work with other languages too? |
05:56 | bug 17855 | |
05:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , New onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha, and minor web installer UI improvements |
05:56 | cait | *confused* |
05:57 | alexbuckley | Nope bug 18039 is just for web installer improvements (bug 18346) to work properly |
05:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18346 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, ASSIGNED , Improved web installer containing basic and advanced setup modes |
05:57 | cait | i htought the basic one was onboarding |
05:57 | i guess i really lost track | |
05:58 | alexbuckley | Nope that was just to make the installer easier to use onboarding didnt use the basic or advanced |
05:59 | cait | so if i want to help out there, where would i start now with testing? |
06:03 | alexbuckley | Well I still have to fix a few things in 18346, so that needs to be done before languages. I should have that done by tommorow. As for now perhaps you could test bug 18002 which is a mini onboarder for the acquisitions area? |
06:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18002 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Needs Signoff , Make onboarding tool include framework to be embedded in Acquisitions to help the users set up Acquisitions for the first time |
06:07 | cait | can't do it before tonight, but saving it |
06:07 | bookmarking it | |
06:07 | alexbuckley | Thanks :) |
06:12 | I have to head home now, see you all later | |
06:22 | cait | hm the weather is broken |
06:22 | it just started snowing | |
06:22 | @wunder Konstanz | |
06:22 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
06:31 | magnuse | cait: snowing here too |
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06:31 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
06:31 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
06:31 | cait | i miss the weather thingy |
06:31 | alex_a | hello |
06:33 | cait | hi alex_a |
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06:34 | reiveune | hello |
06:34 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
06:35 | cait | bbiab |
06:42 | dcook | @wunder syd |
06:42 | huginn` | dcook: Error: No such location could be found. |
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06:42 | * dcook | waves |
06:42 | fridolin1 | hie tehre |
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07:16 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:16 | wahanui | privet, gaetan_B |
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07:47 | * magnuse | tries to kick himself into support mode |
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07:54 | dcook | magnuse: need a hard reset? |
07:54 | magnuse | yeah, something like that |
07:54 | reset --hard | |
07:54 | dcook | life --hard |
07:55 | magnuse | :-/ |
07:55 | * magnuse | finds returning to an issue for the 5th time hard |
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07:56 | dcook | :/ |
07:57 | * dcook | finds handling a million things at once hard :D |
07:57 | dcook | I got done that paper proposal in less than 50 minutes though. I thought that was pretty good. |
07:58 | Little abstract about what we're doing with rdf in Koha | |
07:58 | And I guess the state of RDF in libraries ing eneral | |
07:58 | Because I don't have enough things to do already :p | |
07:58 | Paper isn't due until August though, so that gives us heaps of time | |
07:58 | And the conference isn't until next year | |
07:58 | Anyway, I should get home | |
07:59 | Good luck with your 5th time issue, magnuse | |
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08:04 | magnuse | thanks dcook |
08:04 | which conference? | |
08:04 | wahanui | hmmm... which conference is that? |
08:56 | magnuse | hm, should koha really be putting email messages in the message_queue for patrons that do not have an email address? |
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09:20 | liw | koha++ (that short thread on gender-neutral pronouns could've gone so badly in any number of other projects) |
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11:23 | cait | koha + centos - good idea or bad idea? |
11:26 | jcamins | cait: making it work, or expecting it to work? |
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11:29 | marcelr | hi #koha |
11:29 | cait | trying to install it there |
11:29 | i was asked | |
11:29 | hi marcelr | |
11:29 | marcelr | :) |
11:30 | just wondering if you should say "they" when talking about one person | |
11:30 | sounds kind of strange | |
11:33 | jcamins | marcelr: it does sound a bit strange in some contexts, but it has historical precedent and is the accepted gender neutral pronoun for both singular and plural. |
11:33 | marcelr | ok, native speakers will know |
11:34 | cait | marcelr: i got confused a lot by it in the beginning, you get somewhat used to it |
11:35 | someone used it when talking about the baby and I was thinking 'twins???' all the time :) | |
11:36 | jcamins: so centos? :) | |
11:37 | jcamins | cait: I imagine a lot of people of people would be thrilled if you got it working. |
11:37 | (smoothly) | |
11:37 | * cait | files it under bad idea |
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11:43 | eythian | marcelr: yeah, it's perfectly normal sounding, you wouldn't even notice it typically. Very formal writing perhaps being an exception where it might feel a bit out of place. |
11:45 | marcelr | eythian: en wij gebruiken she als meervoud :) |
11:45 | eythian | yeah, that is so annoying, can you fix that please :) |
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11:50 | eythian | marcelr: while you're at it, I have this other list of things for you to fix: onregelmatig en sterk werkwoorden, dropping letters depending on what comes later in the word, separable verbs, losing the 'n' sound, g, and I'll probably think of more soon. Where's the bugzilla? ;) |
11:50 | marcelr | ;) |
11:51 | eythian | (how'd I miss de and het from that list?) |
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12:28 | mveron-away | Good afternoon / daytime #koha |
12:31 | oleonard | Hi mveron-away |
12:31 | mveron | Context sensitive translations ++ Hope that Bug 15395 will go in fast... It will resolve Bug 11285 as well... |
12:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow correct handling of plural translation |
12:31 | * oleonard | was just testing Bug 18453 |
12:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11285 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Vocabulary disambiguation |
12:31 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18453 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Syspref ExportCircHistory is broken | |
12:31 | mveron | Hi oleonard :-) |
12:36 | oleonard: Maybe there are more things to fix with Bug 18453. There is some code duplication in JS as well. Anyway, good testing needed... | |
12:36 | eythian | hi oleonard |
12:36 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
12:36 | mveron | wahanui: :-) |
12:36 | wahanui | mveron: excuse me? |
12:36 | mveron | wahanui++ |
12:37 | eythian | wahanui: status |
12:37 | wahanui | Since Thu Mar 16 23:56:42 2017, there have been 321 modifications and 132 questions. I have been awake for 33 days, 12 hours, 40 minutes, 52 seconds this session, and currently reference 51422 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
12:37 | eythian | wahanui should count the number of botsnacks received |
12:37 | wahanui | thanks eythian :) |
12:38 | oleonard | mveron: I signed off because the functionality seemed to be working correctly to me |
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12:40 | mveron | oleonard: Thanks for testing, just saw the SO |
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12:46 | tcohen | morning |
12:47 | kidclamp | morning |
12:47 | oleonard | Hi tcohen and kidclamp |
12:55 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
12:56 | tcohen: i need your signoff on those patches related to build_object | |
12:57 | tcohen | yes, I'm waiting for the devbox to start up |
12:57 | with that branch ready for signing | |
12:57 | marcelr | developers have something with waiting :) |
12:57 | tcohen | he |
12:58 | * oleonard | trudges off to a meeting |
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13:20 | magnuse | gah, patrons waking up in the middle of the night because koha sent them a text message... |
13:22 | jeff | ouch. |
13:23 | tcohen | magnuse: check your server timezone =D |
13:25 | jeff | after our first case of calling patrons in the middle of the night, we added some additional hard limits, including a check for ntp sync. didn't think to add timezone checks, though... that hasn't bitten us yet, but now i'm going to want to add that before it does. :-) |
13:25 | magnuse | hehe |
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13:26 | marcelr | cron jobs like to work after midnight |
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13:39 | magnuse | looks like tje majority of texts are sent out at 6am something |
13:39 | ashimema | 6am.. that's a lie in ;) |
13:41 | magnuse | yeah, and specifically it is 6:30, 6:35 and 6:40 |
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13:50 | magnuse | of course the solution is a per-user setting in koha for "don't disturb me between x and y", with the possibility of exceptions for weekends and holidays |
13:50 | and btw, it's snowing in bodø | |
13:52 | oh well, dinnertime | |
13:55 | marcelr | tcohen++ # serialitems |
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14:07 | * druthb | waves. |
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14:27 | tcohen | hi druthb |
14:28 | druthb | tcohen! :D |
14:30 | marcelr | hey tcohen: are you going for the last one too (18361) ? |
14:31 | tcohen | marcelr: would you sign 17951? |
14:31 | :-D | |
14:31 | marcelr | bug 17951 |
14:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17951 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-create should create the template cache dir and configure it in koha-conf.xml |
14:31 | marcelr | will have a look |
14:36 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17835: (followup) Make TestBuilder skip views <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66078f206a169e2f7> |
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15:11 | * oleonard-away | trudges back from his meeting |
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15:26 | Joubu | Why people test when it's in production already and not when I ask to test a big change? |
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15:31 | reiveune | bye |
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15:32 | oleonard | Joubu: That's my experience with things I build for the staff at my library too. :( |
15:34 | Joubu | nlegrand: around? |
15:38 | tcohen | Joubu: good question |
15:38 | Joubu | hoooo *!!ùm!! |
15:47 | tcohen | oleonard: around? |
15:47 | oleonard | Yes |
15:47 | tcohen | bug 18339 |
15:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18339 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Koha::Patron::Attribute ->opac_editable and ->opac_display should be removed |
15:48 | oleonard | Yes |
15:48 | tcohen | I cannot reproduce the problem |
15:48 | with the patch | |
15:49 | it looks to me like restart_all is needed | |
15:49 | and what Marc posted seems to point to different code than what I provided with the patch | |
15:49 | oleonard | I'm pretty sure I did restart_all, but I can test again. |
15:50 | tcohen | oh |
15:50 | something is wrong on my code :-D | |
15:50 | nm | |
15:50 | :-D | |
15:50 | thanks | |
16:10 | Guest315 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #155: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/155/ |
16:10 | jonathan.druart: Bug 17835: (followup) Make TestBuilder skip views | |
16:10 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move C4::Koha::GetItemTypes to Koha::ItemTypes |
16:31 | mveron | tcohen: I re-tested Bug 18339 on a brand new install. Problem seems to be related to repeatable patron attributes. Can reproduce with patch, not without patch. |
16:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18339 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Koha::Patron::Attribute ->opac_editable and ->opac_display should be removed |
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17:18 | Joubu | oleonard: Hi! You do think that future dates make sense for date of birth datepickers? |
17:19 | oleonard | No, but individual datepickers can have their own setting which overrides the default |
17:20 | ...which that one has already | |
17:20 | $("#dateofbirth").datepicker({ maxDate: "-1D", yearRange: "c-120:" }); | |
17:21 | Joubu | ok, my question was about dob |
17:21 | The patch uses "c-100:c+10" for dob, it does not affect default ones | |
17:24 | oleonard | Oh you're right I misread the changes |
17:26 | kidclamp | I mostly kept the c and +10 because it is there now - just setting it to -100 seems fine to me, but is a bigger change in how it works |
17:26 | who knows if librarians are registering time travellers and need future dates | |
17:29 | oleonard | I guess my suggestion is to either make the global default a wider date range or modify members.js for this particular case. |
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17:39 | Joubu | mveron: around? |
17:39 | do not open the new bug report you are going to open | |
17:39 | I think it already exists, 2sec | |
17:39 | tcohen | Joubu: new mind reading capabilities? |
17:40 | mveron | Ok, waiting... Was almost finished... |
17:40 | Joubu | yep, very useful |
17:40 | mveron: bug 8257 | |
17:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8257 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, CLOSED FIXED, Translation scripts show lots of warnings |
17:40 | Joubu | mveron: bug 18257 |
17:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18257 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Column visibility button does not increase colspan properly with pre-hidden columns |
17:40 | mveron | Is indeed :-) |
17:42 | Joubu | mveron: I let you link it with 18453? |
17:45 | mveron | Linked, and I added my nice screenshot there as well... |
17:46 | * mveron | searches for sysprefs 'EnableMindReading' and 'AllowMindReading'. Hmm not there. Will file a bug... |
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17:49 | tcohen | lol |
17:56 | oleonard | Can we do the time travel one first? Then we'll have plenty of time for the mind reading one. |
17:56 | tcohen | hehe |
18:00 | cait | don't forget teleporters? |
18:15 | eythian | I submitted a patch for that. |
18:15 | It got stuck in needs signoff | |
18:15 | Everyone said they would test it, then just never posted anything again. | |
18:16 | Slackers. | |
18:28 | * tcohen | is always forced to google for slang by eythian |
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19:08 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18372 - transits are not created at check in despite user responsing Yes to the... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a7f75d4c95f3766df> |
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19:26 | * Joubu | thinks that wizzyrea ++ koha a bit too quickly yesterday... |
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19:54 | cait | *sigh* |
19:54 | it was too good to be true, right? | |
19:56 | rangi | theres always gotta be one |
19:59 | Joubu | we may have found a topic to get people attending meetings :p |
19:59 | rangi | ah well, im just gonna send patches making it gender neutral anyway |
19:59 | wherever i spot it | |
20:00 | Joubu | I really do not care, but I agree that "them/their" is not perfect |
20:00 | (s)he and "he or she" neither | |
20:01 | rangi | its perfectly grammatically correct english |
20:01 | has been for centuries | |
20:01 | there has always been singular they | |
20:01 | plural only is a modern abberation | |
20:01 | just like proprietary software | |
20:02 | Joubu | heh yes, just perturb non English native people |
20:02 | The only think I'd like to get is QA tests to avoid future occurrences | |
20:02 | rangi | but seriously we do have some gender problems in koha |
20:03 | Joubu | and not have to write/SO/QA/Push other fixes like that |
20:03 | rangi | is sex still hardcoded? not an authorised value yet? |
20:03 | Joubu | guess it's not |
20:04 | rangi | i posted a link yesterday to an india library, which is paving the way |
20:04 | but that was an issue they bumped into | |
20:04 | http://timesofindia.indiatimes[…]show/55395836.cms | |
20:05 | Joubu | 248 [% IF ( sex == 'F' ) %]Female[% ELSIF ( sex == 'M' ) %]Male[% ELSE %][% sex %][% END %] |
20:05 | rangi | adminkuhn-- |
20:06 | that was the least helpful message | |
20:06 | cait | i think she/he is not all inclusive |
20:07 | rangi | not in the slightest |
20:07 | cait | it's more complicated than that |
20:07 | rangi | thats why having it be an authorised value (and making it translatable too) |
20:08 | cait | the translatable bit is a problem currently |
20:08 | with the authorised values | |
20:08 | Joubu | that's why it's not an AV :) |
20:09 | cait | woudl be really nice to have that |
20:09 | Joubu | because there are not translatable (yet) |
20:09 | cait | the itemtypes were a hit at our user meeting |
20:09 | Joubu | but we could have a default list, that would be translatable |
20:09 | rangi | yeah |
20:10 | * Joubu | -- his English grammar |
20:10 | rangi | i think philippe doesnt know Māori was my first language |
20:10 | * Joubu | -- his/her/other English grammar :p |
20:10 | rangi | and it has gender neutral pronouns too |
20:10 | in fact it has zero | |
20:10 | gendered ones | |
20:10 | so he/she makes no snese | |
20:11 | cait | in German it's difficult - wish it was easier |
20:11 | rangi | the question is, can you understand the comment, without it offending 50% of the worlds population |
20:12 | They have a cat | |
20:12 | Can you understand that? | |
20:12 | if so | |
20:12 | wtf are we still worrying about it for :)( | |
20:16 | on to more positive news | |
20:16 | Joubu | http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/he[…]r-facebook-users/ |
20:16 | the list can be long | |
20:17 | rangi | thats why an authorised one makes sense I think, let peple define what works for their communities |
20:19 | alex is busy working on the majors, to try and get patches/sign offs for all of those, no blockers or criticals left | |
20:19 | however | |
20:19 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18442 <-- might move up to critical | |
20:19 | huginn` | 04Bug 18442: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Permission error when logging into staff interface as db user |
20:19 | rangi | its not very nice |
20:19 | it actually logs you in | |
20:19 | but says you arent | |
20:19 | if you open another tab, you see you are .. so something weird | |
20:20 | but I think alex is going to use git bisect to both learn that tool, and find the commit that broke it | |
20:20 | Joubu | I can take this one |
20:20 | does it affect stables? | |
20:21 | ha no, version is set to 17.05 | |
20:21 | rangi | i think it does actually |
20:21 | ive had it happen on 16.11 | |
20:21 | only with the db user tho, so most people wont bump into it | |
20:22 | updated the bug | |
20:22 | Joubu: do you want to wait until your morning? if alex cant fix it, you take it then? | |
20:22 | its a nice one for him to learn git-bisect on | |
20:23 | Joubu | yep ok |
20:23 | rangi | thank you |
20:24 | Joubu | rangi: seems like we do not use the version the same way |
20:24 | version == master if it affects master | |
20:25 | version == 16.11 if it only affects <= 16.11 | |
20:25 | it's how I understand it | |
20:31 | rangi | ahhh right |
20:31 | master then :) | |
20:31 | it effects 16.11, 17.05 and master | |
20:32 | so i would set it to master in that case? | |
20:34 | Joubu | yes |
20:35 | alexbuckley: I do not understand 18462, 17942 takes care of the onboarding tool already | |
20:35 | well, will need to be rebased I guess | |
20:37 | alexbuckley | Its simply to get the styling that Owen did in 17942 to work on the updated onboarding tool. I tried merging 17855 and 17942 however it required quite a bit of manual updating to implement the styling into the onboarding tool |
20:39 | Joubu | alexbuckley: if the patch does not apply, use apply --reject |
20:42 | alexbuckley | Ok. Last night I went through and got the styling pretty close to fully implemented for the onboarding tool are you happy for me to attach the resulting merged patch to 18462 in a little while? |
20:43 | Guest315 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #156: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/156/ |
20:43 | kyle: Bug 18372 - transits are not created at check in despite user responsing | |
20:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18372 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , transits are not created at check in despite user responsing Yes to the prompt |
20:45 | alexbuckley | Joubu: I also got the web installer improvements bug 18346 (implementation of basic and advanced) that I split off from 17855 working successfully and ready to sign off with bug 18039 applied |
20:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18346 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, ASSIGNED , Improved web installer containing basic and advanced setup modes |
20:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18039 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the mandatory and optional files for non-english languages into 'default' directory so bug 17855 permits use of other languages | |
20:46 | Joubu | alexbuckley: I am not sure to undestand the difference between 17942 and 18462 |
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20:50 | alexbuckley | So 17942 was for 17855 before your changes and before I split off the web installer improvements. To make 18462 I applied 17855 and 17942 then merged them. Our most up to date onboarding tool still did not implement bootstrap styling so I had to manually add that to the onboardingstep*.tt files. So put simply 18462 applies bootstrap styling to the newly changed onboarder and current master web installer |
20:50 | Joubu | ok, good luck :) |
20:51 | alexbuckley | thanks its fairly close to finished will continue to work on it after the majors including 18442 |
20:57 | * CrispyBran | waves |
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21:39 | mveron | Good night / daytime #koha |
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