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02:35 | dcook | Interesting... I had started to avoid DBIx::Class because people said it was a performance killer |
02:36 | But I'm actually noticing no difference when using it vs using DBI directly.. | |
02:36 | In fact, I think it might be ever so slightly faster | |
02:36 | Well, that might be coincidence. I think it's exactly the same. | |
02:46 | mmm but that's with a single requst. I wonder at scale... | |
03:05 | wizzyrea | eythian: http://mentalfloss.com/article[…]irely-wind-energy whaaaaaat |
03:32 | dcook | Even with 100 records instead of 3... time seems about the same, so that's good |
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05:19 | * magnuse_ | waves |
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07:00 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
07:00 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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07:04 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
07:28 | * LibraryClaire | watches tumbleweeds roll by |
07:28 | LibraryClaire | @wunder kopnstanz |
07:28 | huginn | LibraryClaire: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
07:28 | LibraryClaire | @wunder konstanz |
07:28 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -1.3°C (8:20 AM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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07:30 | marcelr | hi #koha |
07:33 | LibraryClaire | hey marcelr |
07:34 | marcelr | hi LibraryClaire |
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07:34 | fridolin | hie tehre |
07:34 | LibraryClaire | salut fridolin |
07:35 | marcelr | bonjour fridolin |
07:35 | fridolin | LibraryClaire: magnuse marcelr and ohers, le bonjour |
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07:40 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:41 | LibraryClaire | hey alex_a |
07:42 | alex_a | hello LibraryClaire |
07:43 | @wunder Konstanz | |
07:43 | huginn | alex_a: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -1.2°C (8:40 AM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
07:43 | LibraryClaire | snow |
07:43 | alex_a | @wunder Guéret |
07:43 | huginn | alex_a: The current temperature in Lotissement en campagne, Sainte-Feyre, France is 2.3°C (8:38 AM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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07:44 | reiveune | hello |
07:44 | LibraryClaire | turns out cycling in snow is quite exciting. And not always in a good way |
07:44 | hi reiveune | |
07:44 | reiveune | salut LibraryClaire |
07:47 | alex_a | LibraryClaire: you need that: http://medias.legrandbornand.c[…]mgp0482_copie.jpg |
07:49 | LibraryClaire | omg yes :D |
07:53 | eythian | @wunder Jordaan, Amsterdam |
07:53 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.0°C (8:49 AM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
07:53 | eythian | @wunder ams |
07:53 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 0.0°C (8:25 AM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
07:54 | eythian | I'm not sure about that weather station. |
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08:11 | drojf | hi #koha |
08:13 | LibraryClaire | moin drojf |
08:14 | drojf | hi LibraryClaire |
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08:29 | gaetan_B | hello |
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08:32 | LibraryClaire | hi gaetan_B |
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09:10 | Joubu | @later tell khall I have just attached a followup on bug 6782. I think it can be pushed bypassing the usual so+qa workflow |
09:10 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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09:22 | Joubu | @later tell francharb we are waiting from an answer from you in |
09:22 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
09:22 | Joubu | arg |
09:23 | @later tell francharb we are waiting from an answer from you on 11882 | |
09:23 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
09:23 | LibraryClaire | Hi Joubu |
09:23 | Joubu | hi LibraryClaire, how are you doing? |
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09:23 | LibraryClaire | Joubu: yeah I'm alright. Cold! |
09:25 | Joubu | move South, the weather is mild here :) |
09:26 | LibraryClaire | I thought I was south! :D |
09:31 | Joubu | cait: Are you around? |
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09:31 | cait | kind of |
09:31 | sitting in a cafe for 15 more minutes :) | |
09:31 | Joubu | cait: ok, try to be quick |
09:31 | cait | and yeah... it's too cold |
09:32 | Joubu | cait: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]nuary/047053.html |
09:32 | there are some stuffs that should not happen because it's not possible in a normal workflow | |
09:32 | cait | hm link still loading |
09:33 | Joubu | but, for instance, updated_on is in 16.11 and backported to 16.05 |
09:33 | and... you are not 16.05 RM anyway, so you are not the right person, sorry | |
09:33 | monday morning... | |
09:33 | cait | hehe no problem |
09:33 | but you are right, i was looking at it too | |
09:34 | if we wanted to fix it tho... | |
09:34 | we'd need to fix it in 16.11 and mster | |
09:34 | Joubu | but basically updated_on is added in 16.05 and 16.11 |
09:34 | cait | to avoid the error message |
09:34 | Joubu | that raises the error |
09:34 | yep | |
09:34 | cait | did you check the refund_lot_item_fee_rules table too? |
09:35 | Joubu | I added 3 sub to C4::Installer to check the existence of column, constraint, fk. I think we will need to backport them |
09:35 | cait | i was wondering if they might have loaded the data in a newer db |
09:35 | Joubu | refund_lot_item_fee_rules looks ok |
09:35 | cait | hm is that the 5.7 fix |
09:35 | ? | |
09:35 | i think i pusehd that last night if it was | |
09:35 | Joubu | yes |
09:35 | cait | which reminds me... *checks jenkins* |
09:35 | Joubu | yes you did |
09:35 | cait | ah cool |
09:35 | only the arabic po file is failing now | |
09:36 | https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Build/testReport/ | |
09:36 | mtj | hi cait, Joubu... just reading above ^ |
09:36 | cait | not sure yet how to test those pre_rleease |
09:36 | hi mtj | |
09:37 | drojf | is the library code part of the free OPAC search? and if so, how do i get rid of that? |
09:37 | cait | Joubu: so we just need a fix for master and 16.11.x adding the checks to the updatedatabae? |
09:37 | drojf: ? | |
09:37 | Joubu | yep |
09:37 | cait | are you using the library pull down next to simple search? |
09:37 | or usemylibraryfirst or something like that? | |
09:38 | ah, I wrote to bgkriegel to prepare string freeze - might happen today :) | |
09:38 | just a note for people reading here | |
09:38 | mtj | hmm, did the backport of 'updated_on' cause some upgrade problems for 16.11? |
09:38 | drojf | cait: in institution wants to find their stuff easily, but it shows everything, and i think it is because of the code, but i'm checking the data |
09:38 | cait | mtj: yep |
09:38 | that's why we need to be extra careful with database changes | |
09:39 | if you just backport, it will cuase errors for 'duplicate' for the versions up | |
09:39 | because the columns is already there when it shouldn't be, make sense? | |
09:40 | Joubu | not upgrade problem, just a warning. It depends if you call a warning a problem :) |
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09:41 | cait | Joubu: problem is people can't tell - only we can |
09:41 | it looks red and scary | |
09:41 | Joubu | yes but does not corrupt the DB |
09:42 | cait: did you already have a look at the ar-Arab po file? | |
09:42 | cait | it's a translation error |
09:42 | it got in with the po file update | |
09:42 | but i am not sure how to run the tests jenkins does, so i could just fix it before release | |
09:43 | pushing po files is one of the last hings i do, so jenkins was not finished last time :) | |
09:43 | mtj | cait, yep.. makes sense :) |
09:43 | looks like its bug 10459 | |
09:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10459 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, borrowers should have a timestamp |
09:44 | Joubu | mtj: I am going to fix it |
09:44 | cait | Joubu: yeah, not critical, but generally good if we could avoid this |
09:48 | bye all | |
09:50 | Joubu | @later tell cait it's junitmsgfmt, to use it, install the translate-toolkit package, then `junitmsgfmt misc/translator/po/ar-Arab-staff-prog.po` |
09:50 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
09:54 | mtj | 10459 seems like a good bug to *not* backport |
09:55 | ..its got low/minor status - and has db table changes | |
10:03 | kivilahtio | bag: I talked with kidclamp about BWS's plan to start piloting ES for Koha 17.05 . He told me that he has been working with ES and the same Bug 17255 I shared patches to Bugzilla for. I have similar plans for us. We discuss this wednesday what we are going to do with ES. My tests show that using ES cuts 10 seconds on some searches load time, so it might be a no-brainer to focus on ES. But we have many 3rd party integrations we need to |
10:03 | rebase to the newest master, so not sure if anybody in Finland can work with ES on Q1. I made a list of things that need to be resolved to use ES in production and did some time-estimates on those. Would be nice if kidclamp could comment on that. http://pastebin.com/LKNPJcYQ | |
10:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17255 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 5.1 |
10:04 | kivilahtio | Anyway, I am ready to do sign offs, on those topics and please correct me if there is anything you think should be added or removed. I hope we can get ES into production while we upgrade to the newest communit version. The speed improvement is gargantuan and our librarians will be truly positively shocked :) |
10:06 | magnuse | shock all the librarians! |
10:06 | kivilahtio | magnuse: ES cuts 10 seconds on our search with term 'koira' |
10:06 | magnuse: using caching properly and plack cuts page loads on average 2-4 seconds | |
10:06 | magnuse | :-) |
10:06 | kivilahtio | I consider this gargantugigantical |
10:07 | LibraryClaire | good word |
10:07 | kivilahtio | not to mention the ES index i 1/10th of the Zebra index atm, |
10:08 | it wil lgrow but not by many factors | |
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10:10 | mtj | wow, i did not expect that kivilahtio ^ |
10:11 | ..i thought they would be about the same size | |
10:11 | kivilahtio | mtj: me too |
10:11 | mtj: there can be something wrong with the ES indexing I did | |
10:11 | mtj: this was just my initial test after getting the ES code rebased to ES 5.1 | |
10:12 | mtj | yep understood |
10:16 | kivilahtio | mtj: rootkoha_ci_2:/home/koha/Koha# curl -XGET http://10.0.3.211:9200/koha_ci[…]blios/data/_count |
10:16 | {"count":1426035,"_shards":{"total":5,"successful":5,"failed":0}} | |
10:16 | mtj: hmm, looks like we actually have "most" of the records inddexed if the count == 1426035 | |
10:16 | w ehave something like 1.5 million records | |
10:21 | Joubu | ES mappings are very limited at the moment, that's certainly why the index is light |
10:21 | kivilahtio | Joubu: es |
10:21 | Joubu: yes | |
10:21 | Joubu: looking forward to never ever having to add/configure another Zebra index | |
10:21 | never ever | |
10:22 | Joubu | on bug 17500 I have highlighted the fact that our indexing code is too records-centric |
10:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons |
10:22 | Joubu | there are some changes to do before going further imo |
10:22 | kivilahtio | Joubu: you can add a new ES index, patrons? |
10:23 | Joubu | yes, what I did |
10:23 | kivilahtio | Joubu: ok |
10:23 | Joubu: I get your point | |
10:23 | Joubu | the problem is the code, not ES side |
10:23 | kivilahtio | Joubu: ES patron search would bring some nice improvements |
10:25 | Joubu | patches are waiting for testing/feedbacks |
10:25 | kivilahtio | Joubu: unfortunately we are targeting ES for biblios/authorities atm |
10:27 | Joubu | yes, that's the problem. Everybody is always targeting on something else |
10:27 | kivilahtio | Joubu: I agree |
10:27 | Joubu | code is there, just need testing |
10:27 | kivilahtio | Joubu: thatäs why I always say you should be able to push your patches :) |
10:27 | Joubu: trust the CI | |
10:27 | Joubu | I am saying that the code is wrong, and that need adjustement before going further |
10:28 | I don't think that is out of topic for biblios/auths | |
10:28 | * Joubu | trusts testers and code reviews |
10:29 | kivilahtio | me too, but you need pragmaticism |
10:29 | Joubu: My another suggestion is for the Koha-community to direct the development. Instead of receiving code commits, you direct who does what and then review the code yourself/yourselves and push | |
10:30 | Joubu: So instead of you writing code, you just evaluate quality, demand meticulous automated tests, and push | |
10:30 | Joubu: make minor modifications yourself and push | |
10:30 | and trust the CI :) | |
10:31 | it is obvious that nobody cares about testing. So automate the borings bits to the machine? | |
10:31 | *cares about doing testing* | |
10:31 | but that is just my two cents | |
10:32 | Joubu | we have a lot of testers |
10:32 | and yes, we need more | |
10:32 | kivilahtio | Joubu: true dat |
10:33 | Joubu: we are reworking our testing processes | |
10:33 | that is a lot of work | |
10:34 | Joubu | it's hard for the whole Koha community, so yes I can imagine it's hard to maintain you fork |
10:34 | your | |
10:36 | kivilahtio | Joubu: we will see. I havent gotten to the code upgrading part. A lot of work automating alll our infrastructure and deploying koha the "hard" way :) |
10:36 | Joubu: adding new support services | |
10:36 | Joubu: lots of stuff happening :) Stuff I am not very familiar with | |
10:37 | while stuff breaks around us :) | |
10:37 | so gotta go fixing | |
10:37 | take care | |
11:00 | Joubu | mtj: see bug 17914 |
11:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17914 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The installer process tries to create borrowers.updated_on twice |
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11:27 | marcelr | back after reboot |
11:29 | drojf | marcelr: have you been updated? |
11:29 | marcelr | hope so ;) |
11:32 | Joubu | erk, that was sure |
11:33 | drojf | Joubu: you can pm huginn to do @later |
11:33 | if you dont want it to appear in the log | |
11:33 | Joubu | indeed |
11:52 | eythian | @wunder amsterdam |
11:52 | huginn | eythian: Error: No such location could be found. |
11:52 | eythian | @wunder ams |
11:52 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 3.0°C (12:25 PM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
12:21 | eythian | wizzyrea: yeah, kinda neat |
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12:44 | LibraryClaire | @wunder konstanz |
12:44 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (1:41 PM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
12:45 | LibraryClaire | hm, complete white-out with snow |
12:46 | * LibraryClaire | loves snow |
12:49 | eythian | It's impressively clear here today. |
12:49 | tcohen | morning |
12:49 | LibraryClaire | snow snow snow |
12:49 | hi tcohen | |
12:50 | * LibraryClaire | goes to find coffee |
12:50 | eythian | If I didn't know better, I'd say it was a really nice summer day out there. |
12:52 | * tcohen | goes find a litre of coffee |
12:52 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
12:52 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (1:20 PM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
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12:55 | tcohen | hi |
12:55 | wahanui | what's up, tcohen |
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13:11 | Joubu | marcelr: Hi! What do you mean on bug 10459 comment 80? |
13:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10459 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, borrowers should have a timestamp |
13:12 | Joubu | DB rev should not warn anything if nothing is wrong |
13:12 | marcelr | warnings on fields already added and so on |
13:12 | but also many come from testing on dev systems | |
13:13 | Joubu | ok but what is the question? |
13:13 | marcelr | let me look? |
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13:13 | marcelr | it doesnt need an answer |
13:15 | Joubu | k |
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14:31 | alex_a | Is there a problem with the last pushed patch on master or it's me ? |
14:32 | cc Joubu | |
14:32 | bz 17874 | |
14:33 | I get modals windows on patron and notice details that generate errors | |
14:33 | And i can't close them :) | |
15:03 | LibraryClaire | alex_a have you cleared your cache? that fixes it for me |
15:05 | kivilahtio | Joubu: is the Koha-community's Jenkins and the tasks it executes somewhere where I can see how you have it configured? |
15:05 | alex_a | LibraryClaire: yes it works after cache clearing. But now the top navbar is broken |
15:06 | Only get that with chromium | |
15:06 | LibraryClaire | alex_a what is broken on it? mine seems ok |
15:06 | ah | |
15:06 | Joubu | kivilahtio: what kind of info do you wanT? |
15:07 | kivilahtio | Joubu: I am looking at Smolder, Jenkins2.0 with the pipeline-plugin and Travis CI. Would prefer to maintain compatibility with the community-way. |
15:07 | Joubu: how you execute the perl test runs from Jenkins | |
15:07 | Joubu: how you turn .tap-tests into the jUnit-ones | |
15:08 | Joubu: so Jenkins can parse and store and statistize them | |
15:08 | Joubu: I mean how you turn tap-test results into jUnit test results | |
15:08 | or do you? | |
15:10 | Joubu | I am not sure to understand, we have a bash script, which set some env var and then prove the tests we need to launch |
15:10 | kivilahtio | Joubu: ok |
15:11 | Joubu: and Jenkins eats the .tap-results? | |
15:11 | Joubu: I guess this answers my question. Thank you :) | |
15:11 | Joubu | At the end of the perl script, there is covert -report clover |
15:11 | no idea what that does | |
15:11 | but I guess the trick is there | |
15:12 | we also export JUNIT_OUTPUT_FILE | |
15:12 | kivilahtio | clover generates code coverage reports |
15:12 | afaik | |
15:13 | Joubu: is it possible to take a peek at the configurations, if they are not publicly available anywhere? | |
15:13 | Joubu | I did not configure it, just look at the config on the UI so I may answer something completely stupid |
15:14 | kivilahtio: I'd prefer you to ask tcohen as he is the admin of this server | |
15:14 | kivilahtio | Joubu: I understand. I will ask him |
15:14 | Joubu: thank you for your help | |
15:15 | Joubu: I think I will install Jenkins2.0 for us | |
15:15 | so we can cross-pollinate ideas sometime | |
15:15 | it is rather de-facto standard so cant go wrong with it. It is just a bit hard translating the Perl-world to Java-world | |
15:19 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
15:19 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is -0.5°C (4:18 PM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
15:21 | eythian | @wunder ams |
15:21 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 1.9°C (4:09 PM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029 hPa (Rising). |
15:43 | tcohen | hi kivilahtio |
15:43 | kivilahtio | hi tcohen |
15:43 | tcohen | waht about jenkins? |
15:44 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I would like to see how you integrate the Koha's tap-tests to Jenkins and how you have configured Jenkins to run those tests. Also interested in how Clover works for you |
15:44 | tcohen | Regarding the Clover plugin, it sucks, and its maintainers suck |
15:44 | kivilahtio | tcohen: mainly curious if you have any code in github which i can study |
15:45 | eythian | There's a particularly Rijksmuseumy sunset going on at the moment from where I'm sitting. |
15:45 | kivilahtio | tcohen: looks like it needs a new maintainer :) |
15:45 | tcohen | it breaks frecquently and I'm not being able to make it work |
15:45 | yeah, exactly | |
15:45 | kivilahtio | tcohen: there is a Perl-alternative, Smolder |
15:45 | I am not sure if this is better, but it is in Perl so I can fix it no matter what happens | |
15:45 | tcohen | link? |
15:45 | wahanui | link is both helpful/unhelpful |
15:45 | kivilahtio | not equally confident about the Java world |
15:45 | tch | |
15:45 | tcohen: | |
15:45 | http://search.cpan.org/~wonko/[…]51/lib/Smolder.pm | |
15:45 | tcohen | ok |
15:46 | clover works, but the jenkins plugin doesnt | |
15:46 | kivilahtio | tcohen: you are using the Jenkins v1.* ? |
15:46 | I wonder how bad it is for Jenkins 2.* | |
15:46 | the pipeline-plugin for Jenkins is way too cool | |
15:47 | tcohen | we are using jenkins 2.19 |
15:47 | kivilahtio | ok |
15:47 | good | |
15:47 | tcohen: I guess moving to smolder is out of question | |
15:47 | tcohen: And I don't know if it is any better | |
15:47 | tcohen: but maintaining Java scripts which parse .tap doesnät sound like fun to me | |
15:47 | tcohen | i'd like to move to using travis |
15:48 | kivilahtio | tcohen: Travis has the disadvantage of not being able to measure hardware consumption during test runs |
15:48 | tcohen | i don't worry about that |
15:48 | kivilahtio | tcohen: travis would be really easy |
15:49 | tcohen | really? |
15:49 | wahanui | really is more trouble than she's worth. |
15:49 | tcohen | how do you create a suitable environment for running Koha tests? |
15:49 | kivilahtio | tcohen: well it integrates semalessly to GitHub |
15:49 | tcohen | yeah, that part of the problem I don't worry about |
15:49 | kivilahtio | tcohen: this I don't know, but it all seems very user friendly to me based on their promos |
15:49 | tcohen: but you have a good point | |
15:50 | tcohen | it is user firendly, but they provide baked containerized environments |
15:50 | which are of no use for us | |
15:50 | we need to use kohadevbox scripts to generate our own | |
15:50 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I understand. And one cannot host Travis on his own server |
15:50 | tcohen | adn I haven't had the time to try |
15:50 | yes, you can | |
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15:51 | kivilahtio | tcohen: really? Where is the download link? |
15:52 | tcohen | I think they provide docker images for that |
15:53 | kivilahtio | tcohen: why Travis CI? |
15:53 | tcohen: if we presume you can deploy it and make Koha run there | |
15:53 | tcohen: which looks like to be the case. Aside from Zebra, Travis CI deploys MariaDB and ElasticSearch for us | |
15:59 | tcohen | I like it that they thought of using containers from the ground |
15:59 | but I basically don't like Jenkins | |
16:00 | I looed at GoCD too | |
16:00 | kivilahtio | tcohen: You can use Jenkins build slaves to do that? |
16:00 | tcohen | abadoned due to the lack of plugins |
16:00 | kivilahtio: yes | |
16:00 | we use build slaves already | |
16:00 | kivilahtio | tcohen: Smolder seems pretty easy to me :) |
16:00 | tcohen | but still don't make use of docker integration |
16:00 | kivilahtio | like really easy. You just upload .tap-archive files |
16:01 | you can use whatever scripting , like Ansible to automate it | |
16:01 | Have a bash script listen to changes in GitHub. Trigger a Ansible test script | |
16:01 | upload .tar-archive to Smolder | |
16:01 | voila | |
16:01 | no Java-world funny business | |
16:02 | all pureperl and Ansible | |
16:02 | tcohen | if you have a working solution I can take a look, I'm open to any suggestions |
16:02 | kivilahtio | tcohen: http://search.cpan.org/~wonko/[…]anual.pm#Buildbot |
16:02 | tcohen: because I get depressed by the JAva-world. I don't know why. Just thinking about how to configure Jenkins and not really understanding any of it makes me sad already | |
16:03 | tcohen: hence I would prefere a pureperl solution | |
16:03 | tcohen: I think I hack something with Smolder | |
16:03 | tcohen | kivilahtio: configuring jenkins has nothing to do with Java knowledge |
16:03 | kivilahtio | tcohen: Looks like I alreaady started since I had configured the Smolder infrastructure LXC-container |
16:03 | tcohen: how do you solve stale plugins? | |
16:03 | tcohen | I don't |
16:03 | kivilahtio | tcohen: which seems to be the problem with Clover? |
16:04 | tcohen | he, you are right |
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16:05 | kivilahtio | tcohen: thanks for the chat! |
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16:05 | tcohen | kivilahtio: i'm all ears regarding the CI infrastructure |
16:06 | my goal is to run the tests inside docker containers created out of our kohadevbox playbook, and distributed/stored on the docker hub, or our own's | |
16:07 | that's the plan, until there's a better idea | |
16:07 | kivilahtio | tcohen: we use LXC |
16:07 | tcohen: provision LXC containers on the fly using Ansible | |
16:07 | tcohen: or actualyl clone them when needed | |
16:07 | a bit like docker does | |
16:08 | I prefer to stick to LXC since our whole team understands LXC pretty well | |
16:08 | using docker presents a new language of confiuration parameters which can be just as well be done with LXC on a more granular level | |
16:08 | tcohen | we could use that knowledge and fridolin's to do it with LXC |
16:08 | kivilahtio | but they are both practicalyl the same |
16:09 | docker ecosystem is great | |
16:09 | tcohen | kivilahtio: did you look at ansible-container? |
16:09 | kivilahtio | tcohen: yes, I stole the best parts in it :) |
16:09 | tcohen | because that's what I was thinking of |
16:09 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I was actually hoping I could add lxc-ansible-scripts there |
16:09 | tcohen | I have no strong preference |
16:09 | kivilahtio | tcohen: + remote debugger to the dev tools |
16:09 | tcohen | on either technology |
16:09 | ahh | |
16:10 | kivilahtio: remote debugger with plack is welcome | |
16:10 | please help me integrate it into the devbox | |
16:10 | kivilahtio | tcohen: already got it working on pretty much anything Perl-related :) |
16:10 | tcohen: but you need a DBGP-compatible debugger, such as Komodo IDE | |
16:10 | tcohen: it is no different than injecting a debugging session into any perl program | |
16:11 | ashimema | works in vim kivi |
16:11 | kivilahtio | ashimema: ok |
16:11 | ashimema: I think there are instruction on how to do that in the Koha-community wiki? | |
16:11 | tcohen | yes, there are |
16:12 | ashimema | yup |
16:13 | I think @atheia also has it working in emacs | |
16:13 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I am pretty sure it is doable |
16:14 | I had a fancy idea I could write my own Perl debugger which listens on a HTTP-port. Then it would communicate with the debugged perl session using Websockets :) or something | |
16:14 | so instead of confiuring all the remote debugging hassle, you could just debug via a ad-hoc web-server | |
16:15 | but that sounds like too much work | |
16:17 | tcohen: http://pastebin.com/rXkUZRJi | |
16:18 | there is the koha-plack-daemon which starts a debugging session with this invocation | |
16:18 | bash -x /etc/init.d/koha-plack-daemon start debug debugger development | |
16:19 | If you run | |
16:19 | . /home/tcohen/prepare_remote_debugger.sh | |
16:19 | before the koha-plack-daemon service | |
16:19 | the starman-server initiates a remote debugging session | |
16:19 | but you need to DL the Activestate remote debugger from their website | |
16:20 | helpful to write $DB::single=1 to the perl CGI-script you want to debug | |
16:20 | tcohen: that is pretty much it | |
16:20 | or you can just as well debug in the typical perl debugger from the terminal | |
16:20 | LibraryClaire | laters #koha |
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16:21 | Robert | Hello everyone |
16:21 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I am planning to release our Ansible-scripts to GitHub. They ccreate our production environment completely. With all the CI and Elastic and stuff :) |
16:21 | Robert | i have a problem |
16:21 | kivilahtio | Zabbis |
16:21 | Zabbix | |
16:21 | but have some security kinks that need solving first | |
16:21 | Robert | i need to fix something |
16:22 | reiveune | bye |
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16:22 | tcohen | thanks kivilahtio |
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16:22 | kivilahtio | tcohen: no problem |
16:22 | Robert | when I look for a patron |
16:23 | kivilahtio | tcohen: here is the remote debugger |
16:23 | tcohen: http://code.activestate.com/ko[…]/remotedebugging/ | |
16:23 | but no idea what to use for whatever IDE you use | |
16:23 | Robert | and i want see his currents checkouts |
16:24 | tcohen | kivilahtio: right now I use Sublime |
16:24 | Robert | it shows "NULL" on some records |
16:24 | kivilahtio | tcohen: Subllime has some great javascript debugging tools |
16:24 | tcohen: maybe in a couple of years, Koha is all about javascript :) | |
16:24 | eythian | Wash your mouth out |
16:25 | kivilahtio | :) |
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16:29 | kivilahtio | eythian: there was a youtube video about a javascript sine wave being drawn to the canvas, and the guy modified the sine wave in real time without breaks or gaps using code hot reload from Sublime in Chrome |
16:29 | it is pretty crazy to see the program act differently in real time | |
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16:29 | mtompset | @seen cait |
16:29 | huginn | mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 41 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <cait> bye all |
16:29 | kivilahtio | but it is possible in perl as well. You can inject new subroutines, or overload existing onew in running perl script |
16:30 | * mtompset | cringes at the evil magic discussed. |
16:31 | Robert | Hello everyone |
16:31 | i have a problem | |
16:31 | i need to fix something | |
16:31 | when I look for a patron | |
16:31 | and i want see its currents checkouts | |
16:31 | it shows "NULL" on some records | |
16:32 | mtompset | Version? How was installed? How was the patron record generated? |
16:33 | Robert | 3.22 |
16:33 | it was installed on a VM | |
16:34 | How was the patron record generated? (I don't understand what you're asking) | |
16:40 | Joubu | how did you create it? |
16:40 | on which screen do you see "NULL"? if it's in a table, which column? | |
16:41 | 3.22.14? | |
16:41 | Robert: ^ | |
16:44 | kivilahtio | Robert: you might want to investigate your database, mainly koha.items-table, if some of the items on loan have NULL columns? |
16:45 | Robert: if you can see the barcode of the Items checked out, you can find them from the items-table | |
16:45 | and see if they have NULL-comuns | |
16:45 | and see if they have NULL-columns | |
16:48 | Robert: I would imagine your data migrating scripts leave some of them empty | |
16:50 | mtompset | Patrons can be imported last time I checked, so I was asking if you entered the record yourself, or if you imported it. |
16:51 | Yes, all good suggestions above. | |
16:51 | And how was it install is more of a question about... what set of instructions did you follow to install it? | |
16:52 | (there are lots of bad/outdated instructions floating around on the internet) | |
16:53 | kivilahtio | mtompset: I was sad to find out our favourite dev-install instructions no longer existed in the INSTALL.ubuntu |
16:54 | mtompset | I know. But install instructions are available on the wiki. |
16:54 | and the wiki can stay current more easily. | |
16:55 | Plus, you would hope that the install instructions would be able to be the same across *nix versions. | |
16:56 | Sadly, I've seen some code creeping in which makes anything other than Debian harder and harder. | |
16:56 | * mtompset | coughs, "wantarray" |
17:03 | Joubu | we had the discussion on koha-devel before removing it |
17:05 | kivilahtio | Joubu: thanks for the tip. |
17:10 | Robert | the problem is when shows title |
17:10 | it shows it empty | |
17:10 | kivilahtio | Robert: check the biblio-table |
17:10 | Robert: biblioitems-table | |
17:11 | Robert: are you importing data using the bulkMarcImport.pl -script in misc/migration_tools/ ? | |
17:11 | Robert | i didnt import |
17:11 | i created a new record | |
17:12 | on cataloging | |
17:19 | kivilahtio | Robert, did you install the default marc frameworks? |
17:20 | Robert: when you did the web-installer? Did you install all optional data? | |
17:20 | Robert: You should install all optional data when doing the web-installer because Koha works much better that way and it is much easier to test it | |
17:20 | test and evaluate | |
17:20 | otherwise you need to do some very complicated configurations | |
17:20 | to get Koha to work at all | |
17:22 | Robert | that too |
17:22 | kivilahtio | take care Koha-channel |
17:22 | going home | |
17:22 | Robert | all optional data |
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17:42 | Mauro_BR | Hello everyone |
17:43 | i have a question, why exists 2 different versions of koha? like 3.xx and 16.xx??? | |
17:43 | tcohen | it is the same version |
17:44 | we just made the number jump | |
17:44 | LibraryClaire | Mauro_BR: the naming was changed to reflect the year/month it is released |
17:45 | Mauro_BR | ho ok... i was getting worry... jeje thanks |
18:00 | eythian | @later tell drojf http://www.atlasobscura.com/ar[…]d-warera-vineyard |
18:00 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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18:16 | kchris | Are there any handy tools for debugging template data? |
18:17 | I created a system preference that and am trying to return a list of branchcodes from the preference | |
18:17 | withint a template | |
18:17 | But I don't template doesn't show that the list is defined. | |
18:19 | pastebot | "kchris" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "retrieve a system preference in Koha" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/263 |
18:20 | drojf | eythian: might taste bad, but i kind of want a bottle now |
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18:26 | mtompset | kchris: Koha.Preference('SuggestionLibraryList').split('|') --- multiple effects on the same line while concise don't help the adding of debugging code. What if the system preference isn't defined? |
18:27 | kchris: Also, you probably are running under plack and that is a caching nightmare. Close and Restart Everything! -- Sorry, I don't know how to do it nicely. :) | |
18:28 | kchris | mtompset:There's an else statement that follows that handles the situation where it isn't defined. |
18:29 | mtompset | No no... the Koha.Preference('SuggestionLibraryList') might not be defined. |
18:29 | Not the whole thing. | |
18:29 | kchris | Oh...I see. |
18:29 | You're right. | |
18:30 | In addition to restarting plack, is there anything else I should restart? | |
18:32 | mtompset | Frankly, I shut off my VM completely and close my browser completely, so there is absolutely no way caching can be blamed. It's slower, but it eliminates the whole "it might be cached" problem. |
18:33 | kchris | okay..thank you! |
18:34 | mtompset | Because caching while testing makes me cranky when it is clearly supposed to work and it doesn't. :) |
18:34 | kchris | agreed. me too. |
18:35 | mtompset | Now that said... what are you trying to do? |
18:35 | Because there is a Branches plugin already. | |
18:36 | kchris | I am working on bug 12219... |
18:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12219 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Purchase Suggestions branch level permissions |
18:37 | mtompset | Mmm..... |
18:37 | kchris | I am trying to see if the user branchcode matches the one in the list on the system preference. |
18:37 | mtompset | Okay, functionality idea good. |
18:37 | I'm not sure this is the way to implement it. | |
18:37 | Why not tweak the branches table? | |
18:38 | Add a "Allowed to make suggestions?" field? | |
18:38 | Then tweak the Branches plugin with a new filtered list function. | |
18:39 | kchris | Okay. I was planning on using the Branches plugin. |
18:39 | Branches.getLoggedInBranchcode | |
18:39 | and compare that value to the values in the list from the system preference. | |
18:41 | mtompset | A system preference is not the way to do it. |
18:41 | It requires data entry of codes. | |
18:41 | kchris | Okay... |
18:42 | mtompset | That opens up possibility of typos. |
18:42 | kchris | You're right. |
18:42 | mtompset | A checkbox has no typos. :) |
18:43 | kchris | Where would the "allowed to make suggestions?" field be populated? |
18:43 | if not as a system preference? | |
18:44 | mtompset | At http://staff client URL/cgi-bin/koha/admin/branches.pl?op=add_form&branchcode={the code being tweaked} |
18:44 | kchris | Okay...I'll look at this. |
18:45 | mtompset | But you'll need to tweak the table to have a field for it. A tiny int (1) can_suggest in branches. |
18:45 | But the question I have is... | |
18:45 | Why can't other branches make suggestions? | |
18:46 | Why only some of them? | |
18:46 | kchris | Well...some libraries want to turn off the purchase suggestion feature. |
18:46 | magnuse | because the main library does not trust the branches ;-) |
18:46 | kchris | and handle suggestions elsewhere. |
18:46 | mtompset | magnuse: I know that situation! |
18:46 | kchris | I am thinking of a consortium situation. |
18:47 | magnuse | "Upgrade to 16.06.00.050 done (Bug 8835). Everything is fine." that is some promise to make! ;-) |
18:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8835 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Two indexes on biblioitems.issn |
18:47 | kchris | Actually, I have implemented this in jquery |
18:47 | rangi | Joubu: ahh the new bit we just added? yeah ill turn those off |
18:50 | mtompset | "Change already done" would have been better and less suspicious, magnuse. :) |
18:52 | rangi | @later tell joubu done |
18:52 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
18:52 | LibraryClaire | evenin #koha |
18:53 | mtompset | Evening, LibraryClaire |
18:53 | LibraryClaire | hi mtompset |
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19:05 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #91: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/91/ |
19:15 | mtompset | So, is someone fixing the member 502 issue? |
19:15 | I have a patch that works. | |
19:15 | tcohen rangi? | |
19:17 | tcohen | mtompset: i've checked it is 6782's fault |
19:17 | but haven't had the time to fix it | |
19:18 | from the tests POV, they are creating incomplete patrons | |
19:18 | IssueSlip got fixed by using TestBuilder instead of the incomplete AddMember | |
19:19 | mtompset | Ah, because the issue is context->useenv is undef. |
19:19 | I went with the my $user_branch = ... then use $user_branch. | |
19:20 | don't we have a public function for that somewhere? | |
19:22 | tcohen | i don't follow you |
19:23 | but don't go the hacky way on fixing this | |
19:26 | mtompset | But we've used the hacky way elsewhere. ;) |
19:27 | tcohen | yeah, but there's this thing called 'improve' too |
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19:44 | mtompset | fine fine... holds fix coming up. |
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19:48 | tcohen | mtompset: I'm not saying you need to refactor all the failing test files, and I can accept fixing the userenv |
19:48 | but this failures are saying something too | |
19:49 | mtompset | right which is why I'm going to fix it the long way. |
19:49 | and have obsoleted the hacky way. | |
19:49 | if we put the hacky way in, bad code can creep in. | |
19:54 | tcohen | the fact that userenv makes our tests fail should worry |
19:59 | bye everyone | |
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20:02 | rangi | so this is me |
20:02 | aleisha | and me |
20:02 | rangi | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]yst_Academy#Day_1 |
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20:06 | aleisha | https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads |
20:11 | mtompset | I really do hope this onboarding tools gets pushed through. |
20:12 | wizzyrea | me too it's wicked |
20:12 | alexbuckley | Thanks Yes I have implemented the changes from comments 70 and 71 which I will push up shortly |
20:15 | rangi and aleisha let me know if the setup is faster than expected and I will come down | |
20:18 | aleisha | will do alexbuckley :) |
20:19 | rangi | https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ |
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20:33 | karen_ | hello |
20:36 | wizzyrea | hi |
20:40 | * cait | waves all the way from Germany heh |
20:41 | irma | good morning everyone |
20:42 | Irma waves 16,000+ km towards Germany | |
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20:42 | irma | and waves 2,200+ km towards Wellington |
20:43 | karen hi, where are you located? | |
20:43 | * jcamins | waves 14k+ km to the Catalyst Academy. |
20:43 | irma | hi jcamins ;-) |
20:44 | * jcamins | waves to Germany and Australia, too. |
20:44 | wizzyrea | hi jcamins |
20:44 | * wizzyrea | waves from level 7 |
20:44 | irma | and waves to me? |
20:44 | * cait | waves back at irma ) |
20:45 | irma | wizzyrea pls turn to your left and wave? |
20:45 | * cait | waves again to make sure everyone got one |
20:45 | wizzyrea | hehe |
20:46 | irma | nice one cait :-) |
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20:54 | rangi | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
20:54 | wahanui | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise |
20:56 | rangi | http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ |
20:56 | cait | @wunder Wellington |
20:56 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
20:56 | cait | oops |
20:56 | @wunder Wellington, NZ | |
20:56 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Te Aro, Mt Cook, New Zealand is 20.6°C (9:47 AM NZDT on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
20:56 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
20:56 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -2.1°C (9:05 PM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
20:56 | cait | lots of snow today |
21:01 | rangi | https://jenkins.koha-community.org/ |
21:01 | wahanui | https://jenkins.koha-community.org/ is jenkins.theke.io |
21:05 | rangi | https://koha-community.org/ |
21:07 | http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/ | |
21:10 | https://www.openhub.net/p/koha | |
21:13 | https://www.openhub.net/accounts/ranginui | |
21:19 | karen_ | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]yst_Academy#Day_1 |
21:28 | rangi | https://i1.wp.com/blog.bigball[…]6be32d7a14c22.png |
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21:29 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]-2016-koha-group/ |
21:30 | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]yst-academy-2015/ | |
21:31 | eythian | http://www.atlasobscura.com/ar[…]fm-radio-tomorrow <-- magnuse, your town is famous! |
21:32 | magnuse | eythian: of course! ;-) |
21:32 | that harbour in the picture? i can see it from my (home) office | |
21:33 | eythian | Nice :) |
21:33 | @wunder Amsterdam, nl | |
21:33 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -4.0°C (10:25 PM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
21:33 | eythian | Chilly |
21:33 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
21:33 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (10:20 PM CET on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
21:33 | eythian | Tropical! |
21:34 | magnuse | hehe |
21:34 | we are expecting "Strong gale, 22 m/s " on wednesday evening | |
21:34 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]d-have-been-here/ |
21:34 | magnuse | time to bring *everything* indoors |
21:35 | kia ora rangi! | |
21:35 | how about marseille in march? ;-) | |
21:36 | rangi | not sure I can swing it, im in india in Feb |
21:37 | cait | eythian: we got tons of the white stuff now |
21:37 | magnuse | just go from there to europe ;-) |
21:37 | cait | eythian: it's cold and kinda everywhere |
21:38 | magnuse | oh well, better catch some beautysleep... |
21:38 | have fun #koha! | |
21:38 | eythian | magnuse: 80kph is a light breeze |
21:39 | irma | keep warm magnuse, eythian, cait! |
21:42 | wizzyrea | 120kph forecasted for later this week so ya |
21:59 | rangi | git-bz apply 17855 |
22:18 | cait | bug 17855 |
22:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Failed QA , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha |
22:21 | cait | :) |
22:21 | go academy students go! | |
22:29 | rangi | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ion#Signing_off_2 |
22:31 | dcook | @wunder syd |
22:31 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, Australia is 27.0°C (9:00 AM AEDT on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
22:31 | dcook | magnuse: If you're still around, I think we're supposed to get up to 38 today |
22:45 | Francesca joined #koha | |
22:47 | aleisha | hi Francesca, are you around this week? |
22:48 | Francesca | yup |
22:48 | I'll be in tomorrow | |
22:48 | and probably a few other days as well | |
23:19 | eythian | dcook: wanna swap |
23:19 | @wunder Amsterdam, nl | |
23:19 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Hogedijk, Schiphol-Rijk, Netherlands is -0.6°C (12:16 AM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034 hPa (Rising). |
23:20 | eythian | @wunder Jordaan, Amsterdam |
23:20 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 1.0°C (12:09 AM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034 hPa (Rising). |
23:20 | eythian | I don't know what to believe |
23:20 | Except it's definitely below 0 | |
23:23 | dcook | Mmm nah I'm all right |
23:23 | @wunder yvr | |
23:23 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Burkeville, Richmond, British Columbia is 4.6°C (3:23 PM PST on January 16, 2017). Conditions: . Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
23:23 | dcook | @wunder yqr |
23:23 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Regina, Saskatchewan is -8.0°C (5:00 PM CST on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
23:23 | dcook | Oh that's not too bad.. |
23:24 | It was -40 and -50 recently in SK | |
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