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| 20:26 | wizzyrea | hi |
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| 20:56 | eythian | wizzyrea: you lie! |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | :O |
| 20:58 | * cait1 | waves |
| 21:11 | BobB | good morning |
| 21:11 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
| 21:11 | BobB | summer holiday is over (: |
| 21:12 | liw | @wunder helsinki |
| 21:12 | huginn | liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -7.0°C (10:50 PM EET on January 15, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:12 | liw | the weather would certainly indicate summer in .fi is pretty much over |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | I'm not sure what I lie about :( |
| 21:12 | BobB | @wunder sydney, new south wales |
| 21:13 | huginn | BobB: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 21:13 | BobB | @wunder sydney |
| 21:13 | huginn | BobB: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 21:13 | BobB | @wunder Sydney, Australia |
| 21:13 | huginn | BobB: The current temperature in Mascot, Mascot, Australia is 24.4°C (8:13 AM AEDT on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:14 | liw | wizzyrea, on a couch, maybe? |
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| 21:33 | eythian | wizzyrea: "hi" |
| 21:34 | @wunder Jordaan, Amsterdam | |
| 21:34 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 6.5°C (10:28 PM CET on January 15, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:35 | eythian | That doesn't seem correct |
| 21:56 | kchris | Hi #koha, does anyone have experience creating systempreferences to customize the opac? |
| 21:56 | I am trying to make a patch for bug 12219. | |
| 21:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12219 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Purchase Suggestions branch level permissions |
| 21:57 | eythian | http://www.atlasobscura.com/ar[…]library-last-year <-- relevant to everyone here |
| 21:57 | rangi | kchris: yep the patch there looks ok for adding the syspref |
| 22:00 | kchris | What I am struggling with, is how to hide the purchase suggestions link when a patron's branchcode is NOT included in the systempreference list. |
| 22:00 | I have tried placing the code in the opac-user.pl. And modifying usermenu.inc | |
| 22:01 | rangi | you dont need any code in the .pl file |
| 22:01 | you see in usermenu.inc | |
| 22:02 | kchris | I need to process the list of branchcodes in the systempreference. |
| 22:02 | rangi | you can do it in the template |
| 22:02 | kchris | And see if there is a match with Loginuserbranchcode. |
| 22:02 | Okay. | |
| 22:02 | rangi | Koha.Preference('SuggestionLibraryList') gets you the value of that system preference |
| 22:02 | kchris | Right. |
| 22:03 | rangi | so split it by | |
| 22:03 | kchris | So it's okay to use perl in the templates themselves? |
| 22:03 | I didn't see alot of it there. | |
| 22:04 | rangi | http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]html#method_split |
| 22:04 | don't jump out to perl | |
| 22:04 | just use the TT methods | |
| 22:04 | kchris | Okay. |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | eythian: that one has been making quite the rounds in library circles |
| 22:04 | mostly judging the librarians for doing it, and not being critical of the algorithm that made it tempting to do it. | |
| 22:05 | rangi | [% FOREACH library IN Koha.Preference('SuggestionLibraryList').split('|') %] |
| 22:05 | somethign like that | |
| 22:06 | eythian | wizzyrea: hah, though a pity about the response. |
| 22:06 | kchris | Thanks, rangi. |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | inflating circ stats is kinda a big crime |
| 22:07 | but i mean, if no one has checked out hamlet in 2 years, that's kinda normal. | |
| 22:07 | and rebuying books is pretty dumb. | |
| 22:07 | (if they are in good nick to begin with, etc etc) | |
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| 22:10 | eythian | wizzyrea: well, I think there should be a process to reserve things for the greater good |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | agreed, I wish they'd have taken their concerns to the vendor of the weeding program, instead of being dishonest |
| 22:10 | eythian | And if people are going to ridiculous lengths to do so, then there's a sign the |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | but it's proprietary so |
| 22:10 | eythian | there |
| 22:11 | Yeah, but the actual paring is by a person surely | |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | probably some institutional history there as well that isn't reported |
| 22:11 | eythian | Could be |
| 22:11 | Probably will be | |
| 22:12 | Any story is bigger than reported | |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | the notion that their actions there increased circ by 3.9% is the most significantly ethically egregious bit, since it could inflate funding artificially |
| 22:14 | rather like the libraries who don't cull their active user lists so they can claim 15000 library users in a town of 5k | |
| 22:18 | some big libraries have a service come in to do the weed, so that things like staff feelings don't get in the way of the weeding | |
| 22:18 | no idea if that's what was going to happen here, but it seems clear the staff who did it were aware it was going to happen | |
| 22:18 | aware *something was going to happen | |
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| 22:19 | wizzyrea | I'm no advocate for keeping things just to keep them, but there is a balance to be struck, especially in fiction |
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| 22:20 | cait1 | there was something here too - on some blogs |
| 22:20 | it's annyoing that all the comments plan 'the evil software' | |
| 22:20 | blame not plan | |
| 22:21 | some said 'robin hood' of the books | |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | it sounded to me like there was a conversation that needed to happen in the library, that wasn't happening for one reason or another |
| 22:22 | and chances are good that the report or tool they used to do the weed was too aggressive (they often are, which is why people go over the lists before culling) | |
| 22:23 | cait1 | yeah or maybe some district guidelines? |
| 22:23 | something the library didn't come up with themselves? | |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | could be lotsa stuff, politics of weeding is tough |
| 22:24 | cait1 | but silly to blame software... software doesn't take books of shelves and throws them out. |
| 22:29 | dcook | ^ |
| 22:29 | Nothing quite like FUD in libraries... | |
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