IRC log for #koha, 2016-11-03

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02:59 wizzyrea very long shot, tcohen about?
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03:36 wizzyrea @later tell tcohen hiya, have you ever seen this in devbox? fatal: [jessie]: FAILED! => {"changed": false, "failed": true, "msg": "Error executing /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: AH00534: apache2: Configuration error: No MPM loaded.\n"}
03:36 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:36 wizzyrea or anybody, really.
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03:40 wizzyrea I know what is happening, but I don't know how to fix it in a devbox context
03:40 not with ansible anyway
03:43 * dcook perks up
03:44 dcook I know ansible but I don't really know devbox..
03:44 wizzyrea well you might know how to restart the playbook after manually fixing that?
03:44 is that a thing you can do?
03:44 dcook Hmm, I don't know in the context of Vagrant
03:45 wizzyrea I don't understand, actually, why it is failing for this person
03:45 * dcook peaks at the Vagrantfile
03:45 wizzyrea it works fine on my machine
03:45 his versions are same as mine
03:45 but his dies there.
03:45 it works if we disable mpm-event manually
03:45 dcook Hmm, and since it's using Vagrant it should be the same
03:46 wizzyrea see that's what I thought
03:46 possible his machine is older/newer ubuntu than mine I suppose
03:46 * dcook ponders
03:46 dcook I do see something here about possibly using different versions of Ansible?
03:47 wizzyrea his is using same version as mine is
03:47 mine provisioned just fine
03:47 of vagrant and ansible
03:47 dcook I mean if he is on an older/newer ubuntu than you
03:47 Then the ansible could be different, no?
03:47 wizzyrea I haven't checked on the ubuntu status.
03:47 it could be, but it isn't
03:47 dcook Because Ansible is being run from your host machine I believe
03:47 O_o
03:47 Could be but isn't? Intriguing
03:47 * dcook ponders
03:48 dcook wth.. https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]nstall-ansible.sh
03:48 wizzyrea what I mean is, it is possible that his ansible is a different version, but it isn't, we checked that. :)
03:48 dcook Ahh, ok
03:48 That makes sense :)
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03:50 dcook wizzyrea: Do you see anything else besides what you've shown here?
03:50 wizzyrea nope, it dies there.
03:50 it won't go on
03:51 dcook Weiiird
03:51 And it doesn't show you any other Ansible tasks I assume?
03:51 So you're not entirely sure where it dies?
03:51 wizzyrea it stops
03:51 there
03:51 dcook I mean... what do you see before that?
03:51 wizzyrea everything goes fine afaik but then again
03:51 dcook But what does that mean?
03:51 wizzyrea I didn't look super carefully that is a good question
03:51 * dcook hasn't used devbox before
03:52 wizzyrea everything seems ok up to then as far as I remember
03:52 it's not in front of me, sadly
03:52 * dcook doesn't know what ok is in this context though
03:52 dcook Ah, fair enough
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03:52 dcook It sounds like maybe this part succeeded: https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]asks/main.yml#L49
03:52 But that there was no other MPM enabled..
03:53 mpm_prefork is the other one, yeah?
03:53 wizzyrea yep
03:53 idk, I have to run away now to get my bus :)
03:53 thank you for having a think about it though
03:54 dcook No worries. Laterz
03:54 Hmm visiting the apache homepage broke my browser it seems..
03:55 Surely it should be enabling mpm_prefork..
03:56 Although I don't know why it would work on one machine and not another
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05:29 indradg @seen cait
05:29 huginn indradg: cait was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 14 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <cait> heh
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05:32 indradg @later tell cait just to clarify /me added self to the list https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]17490&oldid=17489
05:32 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded.
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05:49 BobB hi indradg
05:53 @later tell indradg We'll have to get you formally added to the wiki team at the next meeting.  Perhaps you can add it to the agenda when it becomes available?
05:53 huginn BobB: The operation succeeded.
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06:39 cait @later tell indradg no worries, you got elected as a bug wrangler - the question was about the wiki curators further down the page that was changed before the meeting as well
06:39 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
06:43 indradg @cait ok! i'm still plenty groggy from the anti allergic medicines I had to take last night.... but I'm up for whatever needs to be done
06:43 huginn indradg: I've exhausted my database of quotes
06:43 cait hi indradg
06:43 indradg thanks huginn ;-)
06:43 forget quotes
06:44 cait but if you want to do wiki curating - we can fix this also at the next meeting of course
06:44 I just wanted to make sure people knew about getting elected for that role first :)
06:44 indradg hi cait...  heh! i'm cool :-)
06:44 * magnuse waves
06:45 cait god morgen magnuse :)
06:45 magnuse guten morgen cait!
06:46 * magnuse enjoys the view
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06:48 * indradg waves a magnuse
06:48 magnuse kia ora indradg
06:48 cait new agenda for next meeting is online now: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_7_December_2016
06:48 indradg `/me needs to get far aya from a keybord
06:49 magnuse cait++
06:49 cait magnuse: moving done?
06:49 indradg later #koha... need to sleep off the meds
06:49 magnuse cait: heh sort of. just a few bits and bobs left in the old house, but getting everything in its place in the new one will take... years
06:50 cait heh
06:50 you got years, don't stress about it
06:50 magnuse :-)
06:50 true
06:53 just need to find the printer, then the office is in working condition, at least
06:53 and we'll sort out the kitchen over the weekend
06:54 cait good plan :)
06:58 magnuse :-)
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07:00 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:00 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara
07:01 LibraryClaire hey magnuse :)
07:01 magnuse: how is the moving?
07:08 magnuse LibraryClaire: going well. most of the stuff is in our new house now, and as cait said, we have years to get things in their right places
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07:09 LibraryClaire cool! :D
07:09 magnuse and i can see eagles from my office window again \o/
07:10 LibraryClaire oh my :O
07:10 that's really cool
07:11 magnuse yup
07:12 ...and the ocean and the sky and the Lofoten islands and...
07:15 * LibraryClaire is jealous
07:15 LibraryClaire although I also have sky
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07:35 alex_a hello
07:35 wahanui que tal, alex_a
07:40 Joubu magnuse: you will have to send us a picture of this view :)
07:40 magnuse will do!
07:43 LibraryClaire hi alex_a
07:43 * LibraryClaire waves to Joubu
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07:44 fridolin hie there
07:44 Joubu Hi!
07:44 alex_a hello LibraryClaire
07:44 hello Joubu fridolin magnuse
07:45 LibraryClaire bonjour fridolin
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07:49 reiveune hello
07:52 * ashimema can't see eagles from his office window.. but he does often spot Read Kites and Buzzards
07:52 ashimema and the occasional sparrow hawk
07:53 mornin' magnuse, LibraryClaire, cait et al.
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07:57 LibraryClaire morning ashimema
07:57 * ashimema brain's already hurting this morning
08:01 magnuse ouch!
08:01 Joubu: https://www.instagram.com/p/BMVyo8WB2S6/
08:03 ashimema nice view
08:03 Joubu whaou
08:03 is it an island or a bay?
08:03 well you are in Norway, I guess it's an island :)
08:04 and you told it before: "Lofoten islands"
08:05 indradg @wunder kolkata
08:05 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 32.0°C (1:30 PM IST on November 03, 2016). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
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08:06 magnuse Joubu: the closest one is an island called Landegode, Lofoten is far away in the horizon
08:09 Joubu you need to try and replace the wiki page image with a better one ;)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]degode_midnattsol.jpg
08:13 LibraryClaire magnuse: that's awesome!
08:13 @wunder Konstanz
08:13 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (9:01 AM CET on November 03, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
08:13 liw @wunder helsinki
08:13 huginn liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -2.0°C (9:50 AM EET on November 03, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
08:13 liw @wunder hell
08:13 LibraryClaire brr
08:13 huginn liw: Error: No such location could be found.
08:13 LibraryClaire lol
08:14 liw @wunder hell, norway
08:14 huginn liw: The current temperature in Halsoen, Stjørdal, Norway is 0.4°C (9:13 AM CET on November 03, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
08:14 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
08:14 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 1.5°C (8:14 AM GMT on November 03, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
08:15 ashimema i'm sure the degree sign used to appear fine in my irc client.. these days it's an annoying diamond with a ?
08:16 LibraryClaire I just get a ?
08:17 ashimema It's annoying, things like 😸 work perfectly for me
08:18 ˚even works.. the wunder one can't be utf8
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08:18 LibraryClaire I have no idea what that is :D
08:18 I sees a square with four dots in it
08:18 ashimema http://www.fileformat.info/inf[…]r/1F638/index.htm was the first one
08:18 http://www.fileformat.info/inf[…]char/b0/index.htm is the degree sign one
08:19 Joubu what about éàç¿€❤
08:19 ashimema those all work perfectly
08:19 Joubu °
08:19 LibraryClaire °
08:19 my german keyboard has one of those!
08:19 ashimema e with accent, a with accent, c with bottom accent, upside down ? euro, heart
08:19 degree and degree
08:20 Joubu ashimema: "It's annoying, things like 😸 work perfectly for me" > This is a square for me :p
08:20 ashimema so.. they all work.. except the degree returned by @wunder
08:20 really
08:20 LibraryClaire same for me
08:20 ashimema it's a cat face for me ;)
08:21 I wonder what character set wunder is munging from/to
08:21 Joubu but actually there is something wrong in the return of wunder, I got "The current temperature in Halsoen, Stjørdal, Norway"
08:21 magnuse only one way to find out... test all the chars!
08:21 Joubu That does not look like a real city name (even for Norway)
08:21 magnuse should have been an ø
08:22 &oslash;
08:22 Joubu yep
08:22 ashimema funky
08:22 Joubu And I am pretty sure it used to return Bodø correctly :)
08:22 LibraryClaire I got: The current temperature in Halsoen, Stjørdal,
08:22 magnuse akshuly, that should be "Halsøn, Stjørdal"
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08:23 magnuse no wait akshuly, that should be "Halsøen, Stjørdal"
08:23 ashimema :).. I'm not going mad.. I'm also sure it used to return °C properly too
08:23 Joubu ok so everybody has different output...
08:23 LibraryClaire seems everyone is seeing slightly different things
08:23 ^^
08:23 ashimema haha.. so glad I raised it.. not
08:23 LibraryClaire yeah, thanks :P
08:24 magnuse making the world a better place, one char at a time
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08:25 LibraryClaire I'm not allowed to change my nick to have ü in it
08:25 gaetan_B hello
08:25 wahanui salut, gaetan_B
08:25 ashimema 🍦
08:25 LibraryClaire hi gaetan_B
08:25 ashimema rolled a 4
08:26 ashimema .
08:31 magnuse @roulette
08:31 huginn magnuse: *click*
08:31 magnuse @dice
08:31 huginn magnuse: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
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08:31 magnuse @dice 2d6
08:31 huginn magnuse: 6 and 5
08:33 eythian @wunder Jordaan ams
08:33 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Spuistraat, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 7.3°C (9:27 AM CET on November 03, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
08:33 eythian How has Jordaan moved since yesterday?
08:34 ashimema lol
08:37 magnuse earthquake?
08:37 wahanui earthquake is on the news
08:37 magnuse @wunder enbo
08:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (9:20 AM CET on November 03, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
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08:46 AndrewIsh g'morn all :)
08:46 @wunder machynlleth
08:46 huginn AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, Machynlleth, United Kingdom is 4.8°C (8:44 AM GMT on November 03, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady).
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09:10 atheia mornin'
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09:13 magnuse bonjour AndrewIsh and atheia
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09:14 atheia God morgen to you too magnuse
09:21 LibraryClaire hi atheia, hi AndrewIsh
09:21 AndrewIsh aloha magnuse & LibraryClaire
09:22 * AndrewIsh spots the picture magnuse posted earlier and starts planning a trip to Norway...
09:22 magnuse yay!
09:24 * magnuse is secretly employed by the tourism department
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09:27 * AndrewIsh thinks magnuse should get a pay rise
09:29 magnuse yay
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09:43 drojf hi #koha
09:45 @wunder sxf
09:45 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 5.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 03, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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09:54 ttt i am trying installation of koha on lubuntu 16.4 with mysql 5.7 for webinstallation it threw error as DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Incorrect integer value: '' for column 'facet' at row 1 at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SearchField.pm line 38
09:55 LibraryClaire moin drojf
09:57 drojf hi LibraryClaire
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10:05 gaetan_B anyone with experience extracting data from Aleph here?
10:06 i'm seeing pretty big discrepancies between the records ids in the bibliographic export, and the ones in the items export
10:06 it could be that the items export is extremely incomplete for some reason
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10:11 drojf gaetan_B: how are you exporting the data?
10:12 gaetan_B well, I don't have access to Aleph, and i'm not exporting the data myself actually
10:12 that could make it easier of course
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10:12 gaetan_B but it's not the case
10:12 i got a file in the aleph sequential format
10:12 for the bib records
10:12 and a csv for the items
10:14 drojf ah ok. i have not had that yet. there are several ways to get the data out AFAIK, including MARC and mapping item data to some field
10:14 but it depends on version and what interfaces you buy from exlibris i think
10:15 gaetan_B unfortunately i have no access to any of this (yet)
10:15 i was just wondering whether someone would say "ah of course, that's because you forgot the magic hidden switch"
10:16 but well, no easy answer then :)
10:16 drojf heh. i will work with an aleph library, but not that far in the process yet
10:17 gaetan_B the items export has more than 700 000 lines
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10:17 gaetan_B so maybe aleph got lazy and didn't export everything at the end
10:18 because i have way too many bib records without items right now
10:18 (and quite a few items pointing to a non existing bib record, just to make things even)
10:20 drojf maybe some file size limit got maxed out
10:20 when exyporting
10:20 *exporting
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10:26 drojf gaetan_B: i have not used this, but you could take a look at https://metacpan.org/pod/Catma[…]r::MARC::ALEPHSEQ
10:27 gaetan_B drojf: oh i am not too afraid of importing and transforming the data
10:27 that will be the easy part :)
10:27 drojf ok :)
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10:34 fredericd Anyone intersted in QAing bug 15108 and related bug 17493? I'd like to have it in 16.11 :-)
10:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15108 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , OAI-PMH provider improvements
10:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17493 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , Improve OAI Server tests
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10:52 * cait waves
10:56 eythian hi cait
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10:59 cait hi eythian
11:00 drojf hi cait and eythian
11:01 eythian afternoon, drojf
11:01 josef_moravec <fredericd> I am just testing 17493
11:01 drojf very early one
11:04 cait hi drojf
11:04 eythian goeiemiddag, then drojf
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11:11 fredericd josef_moravec: Seen your sign-off. Thanks.
11:11 wahanui I haven't seen 'your', fredericd
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11:55 oleonard Hi all
11:55 drojf hi oleonard
11:55 wahanui hi olé onard
11:56 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
11:56 wahanui hi olé onard
11:56 LibraryClaire oleopard?
11:56 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
11:56 wahanui ouch!
11:59 josef_moravec oleonard: would you mind to look at bug 16239?
11:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Upgrade Bootstrap in the staff client
11:59 oleonard I plan to josef_moravec. Sorry but I haven't had much time for Koha over the last couple of weeks. :(
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12:00 josef_moravec I am going to bring this to next dev meeting, as it will have consequence for every developer who will work with templates as it wil be (hopefully) pushed
12:01 oleonard: no problem
12:01 oleonard I'll make it the next thing on my list.
12:01 josef_moravec thanks!!
12:03 maybe it will need another rebase, i'll try to do it immediatly when you will be ready to test, just poke me...
12:08 oleonard Okay
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12:09 rsantellan good morning #koha
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12:36 tcohen morning
12:40 hi Joubu
12:40 rsantellan hi tcohen!
12:41 tcohen hey rsantellan
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12:45 LibraryClaire hi tcohen
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12:48 * cait waves
12:52 tcohen hey BSZ's
12:53 cait heh
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12:55 LibraryClaire o/
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13:14 rsantellan one little question, I want to save the data from some marc field on another table to run some statistics an not parse all the time the generated xmls. Where is the best place, C4:Biblio:ModBiblioMarc or addbiblio.pl ?
13:18 tcohen rsantellan: I wouldn't fork Koha
13:18 what are you trying to do specifically?
13:19 @later tell wizzyrea I never saw such a thing
13:19 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:20 rsantellan I need to get a list of all authors that need to be exported weekly or daily, so I thought of on save of the biblio I save the 100^a, 110^a, 700^a and 710^a on a separated table
13:20 the problems is that they are xml, so I have to parse it
13:21 it will be easy for me to save them when I have the record and get the data there
13:21 tcohen I see.
13:21 I'd say C4::Biblio::ModBiblio
13:22 rsantellan Thanks! I will create a new function there
13:23 tcohen and maintain it between upgrades :-D
13:24 rsantellan yep that will be my curse ! : - D
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14:03 Ariell Hi! Is anybody aware of a library which is using both Koha and Primo?
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14:04 Ariell Or is that a very unrealistic combination?
14:07 magnuse bug 17545 is for all you js-heads out there
14:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17545 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make "Add biblio" not hidden by language chooser
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14:17 oleonard Ariell: Sounds like you might need to post a question to the Koha mailing list
14:19 Ariell Oleonard: Ok. Thx.
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14:34 nlegrand bonjour #koha!
14:37 oleonard talljoy1: https://twitter.com/Lifeisswel[…]94173828054269952
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14:57 talljoy oleanard  hahahaha
14:57 i was merely demonstrating the use of the /nick function in IRC to jbeno our new migrationist
14:57 ;-P
14:57 oleonard :)
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16:24 andreashm @later tell wizzyrea In case you haven't already gotten an answer, I had the same problem as you with Kohadevbox. Got the solutions from Joubu: use vagrant ssh and install apache there (you need to be root). Then continue with vagrant up --provision
16:24 huginn andreashm: The operation succeeded.
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20:43 * cait waves
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21:11 wizzyrea andreashm++ awesome thank you
21:20 @later tell andreashm thanks so much for your answer to my devbox question :)
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21:31 reiveune bye
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21:37 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1b3448a814794eab7
21:37 isnt that easier to read
21:38 if you checkout the sphinx branch in kohadocs repo
21:38 sudo apt-get install python3-sphinx
21:38 cd en
21:38 then
21:38 wizzyrea rangi++ rangi++ rangi ++ rangi++
21:38 rangi make html
21:38 wizzyrea WOOSPHINX
21:39 rangi (or make dirhtml or make epub) or whatever
21:39 wizzyrea lovelovelovelovelovelovelovelove
21:39 rangi you end up with that .. with images etc
21:39 should be a ton easier for people to submit patches to
21:39 wizzyrea A+ cookies for you!
21:39 (I really am this excited.)
21:41 rangi :)
21:41 i will work to cut it up a bit (so that it generates not just one big 1.7M page)
21:41 but apart from that, it's good to go
21:43 wizzyrea so. good.
21:43 sphinx is easy to format too. wiki-like formatting
21:44 cait yeah
21:44 probably not so fiddly too - should forgive small mistakes
21:47 rangi yeah
21:48 and much easier to edit in a text editor
21:48 also really easy to generate the html/pdf/whtever and check it looks ok
21:48 before you submit your patch
21:48 also you can do this
21:49 make changes
21:50 oohhh
21:50 too easy
21:50 make gettext
21:51 and you have your .pot file
21:51 make linkcheck
21:51 etc too
21:51 cait ok, you lost me o the last bit :)
21:51 wizzyrea oh niiiice
21:52 rangi we have a lot of broken links in the manual ;(
21:52 but now we can have our CI (jenkins) run this test
21:52 amd fix them
21:52 (line 33385) redirect  http://smsdiscount.com - permanently to http://www.smsdiscount.com/dashboard
21:53 too easy
21:53 cait :)
21:53 rangi we can even go
21:53 make latex
21:54 to make eythian happy
21:55 cait hehe
21:55 now all we need is someone to make them really look good
21:55 some nice koha green maybe? :)
21:58 rangi it doesnt look too bad, but yep, the css can be tweaked
22:04 dcook rangi++
22:04 cait rangi++
22:09 wizzyrea All too exciting!
22:10 kathryn wizzyrea is for real jumping up and down and waving her arms
22:11 cait lol
22:11 rangi kathryn: with the make changes thing
22:11 we should be able to provide libraries with a list of whats new/changed in this release
22:11 (as long as it has been documented)
22:11 cait pretty cool
22:12 now you set that up... and then maybe we could look for volunteers to update certain chapters
22:12 :)
22:15 like... adopt a page and check it needs updates or something like that
22:15 * cait might not make sense
22:16 should sleep
22:16 cait night all :)
22:18 wizzyrea good night
22:18 wahanui I'll be waiting for you to come back, wizzyrea.
22:19 kathryn rangi that is really great
22:19 night and hi cait :)
22:20 also, can I please have some more managers who give me tools to make life easier on their first day :)
22:33 * wizzyrea generates the html from that sphinx doc, cries a little
22:33 wizzyrea so beautiful.
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22:44 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
22:48 I was scrolling back through the IRC logs. Tulong Aklatan can be reached at: inquiry@tulongaklatan.ph
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23:02 wizzyrea rangi: the "nature" theme is basically koha green
23:02 but it does some stupid stuff with the table of contents
23:02 (fixable but)
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