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| 00:23 | Francesca | hi |
| 00:23 | wahanui | hey, Francesca |
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| 06:50 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 06:56 | morgane | hi #koha |
| 06:56 | sameeenz | Hello morgane |
| 06:57 | morgane | hello sameeenz :) |
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| 07:15 | * cait | waves |
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| 07:28 | fridolin | hie |
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| 07:32 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
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| 08:22 | sameeenz | Good morning LibraryClaire |
| 08:22 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 08:23 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 17.7°C (10:18 AM CEST on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:23 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 08:23 | eythian | also, hi |
| 08:23 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY |
| 08:23 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 17.0°C (8:50 AM BST on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:23 | eythian | what's new, LibraryClaire? |
| 08:23 | LibraryClaire | we're having a heatwave, can you tell? |
| 08:23 | eythian | same here! |
| 08:24 | LibraryClaire | :) |
| 08:24 | sameeenz | @wunder Whangarei |
| 08:24 | huginn | sameeenz: The current temperature in 51 pah road, Whangarei, New Zealand is 10.9°C (8:24 PM NZST on August 16, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:24 | sameeenz | Shiieeeet. |
| 08:25 | @wunder Gore | |
| 08:25 | huginn | sameeenz: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:25 | eythian | chilly enough |
| 08:25 | haha | |
| 08:25 | sounds about right :) | |
| 08:25 | sameeenz | Yeah, not even the bot cares about Gore |
| 08:25 | eythian | @wunder alexandra, nz |
| 08:26 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Springvale, Alexandra, Clyde-Springvale, New Zealand is 2.8°C (8:25 PM NZST on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:26 | sameeenz | Brrr. |
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| 09:01 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:01 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Luisenstraße, Konstanz, Germany is 20.6°C (11:01 AM CEST on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:01 | cait | it's nice so far today - sunny but not so hot |
| 09:05 | sameeenz | I could go for some of that about now. |
| 09:09 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 09:37 | LibraryClaire | hello again |
| 09:37 | cait | survived the meeting? :) |
| 09:38 | LibraryClaire | surprise meetings are my favourite! |
| 09:38 | cait | heh |
| 09:38 | LibraryClaire | but yes, it was fine |
| 09:38 | cait | just had one too - but it was interesting |
| 09:38 | LibraryClaire | yeah, it was fine, discussing our OPAC ^^ |
| 09:38 | cait | coworker showed our new ILL portal :) |
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| 09:38 | LibraryClaire | ooh shiny |
| 09:39 | cait | very shiny - based on vufind and a national index of all union catalogs |
| 09:39 | LibraryClaire | nice :D |
| 09:42 | drojf | cait: where can i download the source code? :P |
| 09:43 | cait | um |
| 09:43 | not sure | |
| 09:48 | * eythian | is on a strict diet of no meetings at the moment, because people keep giving me difficult deadlines and then expecting me to achieve them. |
| 09:50 | LibraryClaire | today i have a moved meeting a surprise meeting and a surprise conference call |
| 09:50 | eythian | (then I get to say things like "do you want me to get this done, or go to a meeting?") |
| 09:50 | sounds like a varietious day! | |
| 09:50 | * LibraryClaire | drinks coffee |
| 09:51 | * drojf | wants coffee |
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| 09:51 | * LibraryClaire | growls |
| 09:51 | * drojf | says meow |
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| 09:56 | drojf | i was sure that would work |
| 09:56 | * drojf | goes to make espresso and improve cat skills |
| 09:57 | LibraryClaire | lol |
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| 12:19 | mveron-away | Hi again #koha |
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| 12:19 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 12:19 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Holderweg, Binningen, Switzerland is 27.1°C (2:13 PM CEST on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
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| 12:30 | tcohen | ¡hola #koha! |
| 12:30 | cait: pong | |
| 12:32 | LibraryClaire | hi tcohen :) |
| 12:32 | tcohen | Hey, LibraryClaire |
| 12:32 | wahanui | LibraryClaire is the monster under my bed |
| 12:33 | * LibraryClaire | pokes wahanui |
| 12:33 | wahanui | ouch! |
| 12:34 | tcohen | hi drojf |
| 12:35 | @later tell drojf are you going to sign the nightly packages? | |
| 12:35 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:35 | cait | ping |
| 12:35 | tcohen | hi cait |
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| 12:54 | tcohen | jenkins_koha: queue |
| 12:54 | jenkins_koha | Build queue: |
| 12:54 | - Koha_3.22.x_D8_MariaDB10.0: Build #776 is already in progress (ETA:58 min) | |
| 12:54 | - Koha_3.22.x_D8: Build #87 is already in progress (ETA:1 hr 33 min) | |
| 12:54 | - Koha_3.22.x_U14: Build #77 is already in progress (ETA:1 hr 52 min) | |
| 13:09 | tcohen | jenkins_koha: queue |
| 13:09 | jenkins_koha | Build queue: |
| 13:09 | - Koha_3.22.x_D8_MariaDB10.0: Build #776 is already in progress (ETA:43 min) | |
| 13:09 | - Koha_3.22.x_D8: Build #87 is already in progress (ETA:1 hr 18 min) | |
| 13:09 | - Koha_3.22.x_U14: Build #77 is already in progress (ETA:1 hr 37 min) | |
| 13:15 | tcohen | @later tell drojf I think we should koha-perldeps should pull the catmandu / ES deps for simplicity |
| 13:15 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:53 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 13:53 | * kidclamp | waves |
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| 13:54 | nengard | hi all |
| 13:55 | kidclamp | hi nengard |
| 13:55 | nengard | I've been trying to connect to the channel on my work computer, but it's not finding the channel .... |
| 13:55 | wonder if htey have oftc blocked ... it's working here in the browser | |
| 13:56 | tcohen | hi nengard ! |
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| 13:57 | nengard | :) |
| 13:57 | morning amyk | |
| 13:57 | amyk | hi nengard!!!! |
| 13:58 | nengard | hehe knew you'd react that way |
| 13:58 | amyk | :-) |
| 13:58 | you're in koha channel yay! | |
| 14:00 | drojf | @wunder txl |
| 14:00 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 26.1°C (3:51 PM CEST on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:01 | nengard | @wunder 78754 |
| 14:01 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 22.6°C (8:54 AM CDT on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect through this evening... |
| 14:01 | drojf | @later tell tcohen the catmandu/ ES deps do not exist in the repo yet, so there is nothing to pull. working on it, but may take some time |
| 14:01 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:02 | tcohen | I hate it :-D |
| 14:02 | drojf | blame eythian :P |
| 14:02 | * tcohen | knows |
| 14:03 | eythian | drojf: that's your first envelope. |
| 14:03 | drojf | i'm not sure what that means |
| 14:03 | eythian | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/[…]es_n_1635781.html |
| 14:05 | drojf | lol. i actually think i can solve the problem, but there are a lot of othert problems that want to be solved too |
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| 14:05 | drojf | but i will use it again :P |
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| 14:07 | drojf | i thought about having non-cool not-really-proper-debian-packages for the time being, but i decided that would lead to doing it properly waaay later. so i won't |
| 14:07 | eythian | yeah, good plan |
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| 14:29 | tcohen | @later tell mtompset I don't understand several comments you put on the code in bug 11592 |
| 14:29 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:31 | tcohen | @seen mtompset |
| 14:31 | huginn | tcohen: mtompset was last seen in #koha 1 day, 21 hours, 6 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <mtompset> ^dat^day^ :) |
| 14:34 | tcohen | @later tell mtompset I expected simple patches in which you passed the already retrieved records to the RecordProcessor, and kept the code as is, it got a bit messy |
| 14:34 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:40 | vfernandes | hi #koha |
| 14:40 | problem installing koha 3.22 -> DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_warn_undetermined_driver(): This version of DBIC does not yet seem to supply a driver for your particular RDBMS and/or connection method ('Mock'). While we will attempt to continue anyway, the results are likely to be underwhelming. Please upgrade DBIC, and if this message does not go away, file a bugreport including the following info: | |
| 14:41 | anyone had this problem? | |
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| 15:03 | vfernandes | i'm having a problem with Koha 3.22 and MySQL queries |
| 15:04 | one query to only get a systempreferences is too much slow comparing to Koha 3.20 | |
| 15:17 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 15:20 | Joubu | vfernandes: when did you get this error? |
| 15:20 | you should see it when running tests | |
| 15:20 | and yes it's expected | |
| 15:22 | vfernandes | on running tests |
| 15:23 | make test | |
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| 16:47 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15200 - t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31c5716b3be0a7a6b> |
| 16:48 | drojf | w00t ^ |
| 16:49 | * drojf | updates the nightly config |
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| 16:56 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 16:56 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.1°C (1:55 PM ART on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling). |
| 17:10 | morgane | bye #koha :) |
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| 17:43 | Tylathos | i think the last comment at bug 17101 ocurse a new bug. Becaus that kind of error can be duplicated from me by editing complitly different pages. Even when im on the master branch :) |
| 17:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17101 new feature, P5 - low, ---, T.Reimann95, Needs Signoff , Confirm a question before check in |
| 17:43 | Tylathos | what should i do now ^^ |
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| 18:05 | kidclamp | Tylathos - first I would say test and recreate the issue and ask more questions if you can't recreate |
| 18:06 | Then either add a followup patch or amend the initial patch | |
| 18:07 | Tylathos | kidclamp: the bug that he found, has nothing im common with my patch. Its in a compltly other file, and could even be reproduce when i don't apply my patch. So it's a new bug right? |
| 18:09 | kidclamp | ah yes, if it exists outside of your patch it can be filed as a new bug, but I think the first part applies doesn't it? |
| 18:09 | confrimgin the hold - not your problem | |
| 18:09 | conflict of checkin msg / hold confirm msg is related I think | |
| 18:10 | bug 16942 | |
| 18:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16942 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Confirm hold results in ugly error |
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| 18:17 | Tylathos | kidclamp: yes the first parts apply to me. it's the second field. |
| 18:22 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 18:22 | * mveron | waves |
| 18:24 | mveron | Tylathos: I was reading back... You are right, internal server error in Bug 17101 seems to be a different thing |
| 18:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17101 new feature, P5 - low, ---, T.Reimann95, Needs Signoff , Confirm a question before check in |
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| 19:44 | * andreashm | waves |
| 20:29 | rangi | morning |
| 20:36 | kidclamp | morning rangi |
| 20:40 | cait | morning rangi |
| 20:42 | barton | bots? |
| 20:42 | wahanui | http://youtu.be/B1BdQcJ2ZYY |
| 20:43 | barton | not the answer I was looking for. |
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| 20:47 | andreashm | evening |
| 20:51 | how does Koha (and the record matching rules) handle multiple isbn:s? Like for multi volume records, where there is one isbn for the complete work and one for each part? From what I can tell if there is just one match, the other one is ignored? | |
| 20:52 | Which for us has made a lot of wrong matches, as it only looks at the isbn for the complete work. | |
| 20:52 | Anyone who knows? | |
| 20:55 | cait | andreashm: hm we have separate records in this case |
| 20:56 | one set record and one for each volume | |
| 20:56 | so don't run into this probably... and we never match on isbn | |
| 20:56 | andreashm | cait: we have the same. |
| 20:56 | cait | hm |
| 20:57 | andreashm | but for now we are matching on isbn since we cannot match on 035a just yet, because of how Koha normalizes the data |
| 20:57 | cait | i am not sure why it matches then - did someone add the 7xx isbn to the same index as 020? |
| 20:57 | andreashm | there are multiple 020 |
| 20:57 | cait | and in the volume record there is the isbn of the set record in 020? |
| 20:57 | andreashm | for yup |
| 20:58 | yes | |
| 20:58 | I meant to say | |
| 21:00 | Don't know if that is a Swedish standard or something... | |
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| 21:01 | andreashm | Looks quickly... seems so. Sveral 020 for multi volume. |
| 21:01 | cait | we got thos ein the 8xx 7xx linking fields |
| 21:01 | not in 020 | |
| 21:01 | if at all | |
| 21:01 | so they don't interfere | |
| 21:01 | andreashm | kind of makes sense |
| 21:02 | cait | i'd say so... but that doesn't solve your problem :( |
| 21:02 | i wonder if you could add a match check on the record type | |
| 21:03 | depending on how you can distinguish them | |
| 21:03 | andreashm | Interesting discovery with record matching is that there always seems to be the latest record (=the one with the highest biblio-nr) that gets matched, even if there are numerous records with the same 020 (or whatever is matched on) |
| 21:03 | cait | we see the same in cases of doubled up 001 |
| 21:04 | andreashm | so the same record gets updated over and over. |
| 21:05 | makes me wonder what would happen if I go into the Stage MARC management and undo the first import of say three. Would the original record be restored, or would the latest import (=after the one I undo) still be in effect? | |
| 21:05 | cait | i think it restores the version before the import |
| 21:05 | but i haven't tested it :) | |
| 21:05 | andreashm | I didn't feel like testing on our production server... =) |
| 21:05 | cait | could you combine the isbn match with something like bib-level? |
| 21:06 | andreashm | bib-level? |
| 21:06 | wahanui | bib-level is probably an example |
| 21:06 | cait | that's leader pos7 as an example |
| 21:06 | andreashm | humm... possibly. |
| 21:07 | cait | our set records have c |
| 21:07 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/bdleader.html | |
| 21:07 | the volumes are m i think... | |
| 21:10 | andreashm | don't know how to set up such a matchpoint though. And I tried adding a matchpoint for title, but it doesn't matter since the isbn match doesn't depend on t. (I don't think I want to change the matching to require isbn and title for a match... might make even more duplicates) |
| 21:19 | This just makes matching on 035 all the more important for us. | |
| 21:20 | rangi | theres a patch to add in index on that, once thats done, matching on it is pretty easy |
| 21:23 | cait | ithink it is in now |
| 21:23 | or at least pqa | |
| 21:23 | andreashm: hm i think it's about the scores you set? | |
| 21:24 | i never used multiple criteria tho :( | |
| 21:24 | i just know it should work theoetically | |
| 21:24 | if a recorgs gains a certain score from mulitple checks it will be considered a match | |
| 21:27 | record... | |
| 21:27 | wahanui | record is probably constructed before indexing |
| 21:28 | andreashm | rangi: yes, and we have added an index for 035 now. But the problem is that Koha does some normalization which doesn't work with the way Zebra indexes. |
| 21:29 | Bug 15541 would take care of that though | |
| 21:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Prevent normalization during matching/import process |
| 21:29 | andreashm | But its stuck in QA at the moment |
| 21:30 | cait: yeah, I know. But I'm not inclined to require score from both title and isbn to match. a simple spelling error in the title somewhere would mean no match. | |
| 21:31 | cait | can you explain the difference it would makeß |
| 21:31 | ? | |
| 21:34 | andreashm | cait: I could set isbn to a score of 500 and title to 500. And the threshold to 1000. |
| 21:34 | Only matching on isbn or title would not be enough for an actual match - you would need both. | |
| 21:34 | cait | i mean with the patch? |
| 21:34 | andreashm | ah |
| 21:34 | sorry | |
| 21:36 | Our 035a looks like "(LIBRIS)8029799" | |
| 21:37 | Koha turns this into LIBRIS8029799 | |
| 21:37 | cait | hm |
| 21:38 | andreashm | Zebra looks at the parenthesis as something that seperates words. It searches for LIBRIS and 8029799 |
| 21:38 | so no match | |
| 21:38 | cait | ah |
| 21:38 | so the different treatment of ( in indexing and normalization | |
| 21:38 | andreashm | yes |
| 21:38 | cait | because zebra treats as space |
| 21:38 | ok i see | |
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| 21:40 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 21:40 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 22.6°C (6:40 PM ART on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Blowing Sand. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:40 | andreashm | @wunder sion |
| 21:40 | huginn | andreashm: The current temperature in Sion, Switzerland is 20.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on August 16, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:41 | andreashm | hi tcohen btw |
| 21:43 | rangi | hi tcohen |
| 21:45 | tcohen | hi rangi |
| 21:45 | andreashm | tcohen: I've been meaning to ask you - is there anything I need to do to test REST API bugs using Kohadevbox? I tried using Postman, but couldn't get it to work. |
| 21:46 | tcohen | indeed |
| 21:46 | i've done the work so we are able to | |
| 21:46 | i'm missing one step: patch kohadevbox so it sets the nightly repo from drojf | |
| 21:47 | let me look at the bug number | |
| 21:48 | andreashm: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17030 | |
| 21:48 | huginn | 04Bug 17030: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Configure the REST api on packages install |
| 21:48 | tcohen | adjust your setup to that patches changes |
| 21:50 | i haven't tested if koha-gitify does the job regarding the API endpoint | |
| 21:50 | andreashm: are you using latest kohadevbox:master? | |
| 21:51 | I use postman as well, using the CGISESSID value | |
| 21:54 | am i online? | |
| 21:56 | andreashm | yes |
| 21:56 | sorry was away for a bit writing an email | |
| 21:57 | tcohen: I think I am. Installed it last week. | |
| 21:57 | So I should apply 17030 before testing? | |
| 21:59 | tcohen | nope |
| 22:00 | that is already applied on the nightly packages | |
| 22:00 | andreashm | ah ok |
| 22:00 | tcohen | just saying, you could tweak your packages files |
| 22:00 | those installed from the packages | |
| 22:00 | using the ones from the patch | |
| 22:01 | i'll try to make drojf's nightly builds work on kohadevbox | |
| 22:01 | he wasn't signing the packages, and ansible was complaining | |
| 22:01 | so I didn't upstream the patch for kohadevbox | |
| 22:02 | andreashm | alright |
| 22:02 | thanks tcohen | |
| 22:02 | (great work on kohadevbox btw!) | |
| 22:02 | tcohen | i'll try to patch kohadevbox now |
| 22:02 | andreashm | nice |
| 22:02 | tcohen | i was looking for bag first |
| 22:02 | andreashm | Well, I'm off to bed. |
| 22:03 | tcohen | hm, invoking him didn't work hehe |
| 22:03 | andreashm | haha |
| 22:04 | Hope to be looking more at REST stuff next week or so. This week is for struggling with matching rules and writing project reports. not sure which is worse. =) | |
| 22:04 | ok, bye #koha | |
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