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| 00:14 | jcamins | Also broiling the zucchini. |
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| 00:52 | BobB | hi wizzyrea |
| 00:54 | @later tell wizzyrea :at koha-community.org/documentation/ the link to the 16.05 manual is returning 404 | |
| 00:54 | huginn | BobB: The operation succeeded. |
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| 00:59 | wizzyrea | BobB: what is the correct URL? That stuff is managed by bernardo |
| 00:59 | and actually near as I can tell the manual for 16 isn't there at all | |
| 01:00 | nengard would have been the one who updated that page. | |
| 01:00 | http://manual.koha-community.org/16.05/en/ BobB | |
| 01:01 | bob_ | ok, so I go to https://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 01:01 | wizzyrea | yeah, that http://translate.koha-communit[…]/en/html-desktop/ |
| 01:02 | doesn't exist | |
| 01:02 | bob_ | and click the link to the 16.05 manual |
| 01:02 | wizzyrea | and translate is run by bernardo |
| 01:02 | bob_ | and get a 404 |
| 01:02 | but the url you give resolves for me | |
| 01:02 | wizzyrea | yep, it's not on translate |
| 01:02 | it's on manual | |
| 01:02 | that's the mirror link | |
| 01:02 | something is funky with the translate copy | |
| 01:02 | bob_ | ah ok |
| 01:03 | wizzyrea | just trying to get you to the info you needed :) |
| 01:03 | i'm not sure exactly what needs to happen on translate | |
| 01:04 | bob_ | i'll email bernardo if you like? |
| 01:06 | wizzyrea | that's probably best, I kinda don't want to touch it until I know what the URL actually *is* |
| 01:06 | cuz if he just puts it there it'll come right by itself :) | |
| 01:07 | or, if we need to come up with a different workflow or idk what | |
| 01:10 | bob_ | done |
| 01:11 | thx wizzyrea | |
| 01:12 | wizzyrea | yep nw |
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| 05:49 | The1TheyCallSam | Hi, guys -- trying out the Koha IRC for the first time! |
| 05:52 | I'm a fairly new Koha user (currently on 3.14, but planning to upgrade to latest version soon), and while I've been better familiarizing myself with resources out there, I'm still not bridging the gaps in my knowledge on one particular issue... | |
| 05:53 | cait | hi :) |
| 05:54 | The1TheyCallSam | The issue I'm having is with patron logins, both for our OPAC in general, and for our Self-Checkout procedure for an off-site collection (for which there is currently a link on our Library homepage): library.marianas.edu |
| 05:55 | cait | in 3.14? |
| 05:56 | just asking cause there aredifferences | |
| 05:56 | waht's the issue? | |
| 05:58 | hm your link is a more modern version - but strangely I can't see the exact version in the source | |
| 05:58 | The1TheyCallSam | Our students do not know how to login to the OPAC (and because I'm still fairly new in my job, neither do I); I am able to login with my admin. Koha (back-end) login info, as are my other staff members, but the students' login info still vexes me...no one at our Library has really ever addressed this since we jumped on the Koha wagon, and my predecessor didn't communicate to me how usernames and passwords are generated. |
| 05:59 | cait | hm |
| 05:59 | if you are not using some external thing like ldap or cas, the way you log into koha is either: | |
| 05:59 | - username + password | |
| 05:59 | - cardnumber + password | |
| 06:00 | passwords are stored encrypted, so there is no way for you to tell what it has been set to | |
| 06:00 | you can use the patron import to set passwords - but once the password is stored, there is no way to findout again what it was | |
| 06:01 | oh and normal uers don't need any permissions, only staff users do | |
| 06:01 | The1TheyCallSam | This makes sense...I am thinking it has something to do with importing our currently enrolled students into the system via "batch delete" / "batch patron modification" (which we do at the beginning of every semester), but I am unsure... |
| 06:03 | cait | take a look at the import patrons tool |
| 06:03 | it works with csv files | |
| 06:03 | The1TheyCallSam | I need to be able to demonstrate to students at the off-site facility can successfully checkout materials to themselves... |
| 06:03 | Ok, looking now -- one sec. | |
| 06:03 | cait | you can create a user or set a users passwords from the patron account |
| 06:04 | so I think a demonstration should not be a problem | |
| 06:04 | bob_ | hi cait |
| 06:05 | cait | hi bob_ |
| 06:05 | bob_ | The1TheyCallSam, you need a staff user for the self check module |
| 06:05 | to log in to it effectively | |
| 06:05 | then each student uses their own credentials to borrow | |
| 06:06 | its covered in the manual | |
| 06:06 | The1TheyCallSam | AH... |
| 06:06 | cait | ahyeah that's true |
| 06:06 | The1TheyCallSam | Thank you, bob_ |
| 06:06 | cait | and there is a specific permission it will need |
| 06:06 | in newer versions | |
| 06:06 | The1TheyCallSam | That may be what was stumping me... |
| 06:07 | cait | self_checkout Perform self checkout at the OPAC. It should be used for the patron matching the AutoSelfCheckID |
| 06:09 | that's the permission | |
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| 06:18 | The1TheyCallSam | Ok, cait -- I think I've found it: it looks like the circulation preference this refers to (when I perform a search for "self checkout" in global system preferences) is: AutoSelfCheckAllowed AutoSelfCheckID AutoSelfCheckPass |
| 06:19 | cait | that's if you want the self check user to automatically log in |
| 06:22 | The1TheyCallSam | Hmmm...ultimately I want them to user THEIR username and password, so that our ILS keeps track of exactly who is borrowing those materials... |
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| 06:27 | The1TheyCallSam | My problem is still that I'm not sure what the username and password IS. Last week, I tried many combinations with a couple of students, trying every possibility of what it could be / should be...I even tried editing one student's OPAC login, and had him create a new password, but that didn't seem to work, either... |
| 06:33 | I think maybe I just wigged out because of the initial requirement of a STAFF login for this self-checkout thing: thus, even the students' legitimate username / password wasn't being recognized... | |
| 06:33 | I'll keep tinkering. Thanks for your help, all! | |
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| 07:31 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:33 | cait | hi marcelr |
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| 07:38 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 07:38 | * cait | waves |
| 07:38 | LibraryClaire | hi cait :) |
| 07:38 | @wunder LCY | |
| 07:38 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 17.0°C (8:20 AM BST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:39 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 07:39 | LibraryClaire | hi drojf |
| 07:40 | drojf | hi LibraryClaire |
| 07:40 | @wunder txl | |
| 07:40 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 15.7°C (9:31 AM CEST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:40 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 07:40 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 17.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:58 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 07:58 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.3°C (9:53 AM CEST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:06 | cait | marcelr: are you taking on the rest api patches? |
| 08:06 | marcelr | how so? |
| 08:12 | cait | just htought i saw you commenting on one .) |
| 08:13 | marcelr | yeah, that is true but not the same as taking all patches |
| 08:14 | i am curious if we see some more reactions on the dev ml btw | |
| 08:14 | cait | I am not ready to test api patches yet - i hope i can learn some things in Marseille |
| 08:21 | just saw your email to koha-devel - good questions | |
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| 11:39 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 11:39 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:42 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY |
| 11:43 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 22.0°C (12:20 PM BST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:43 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 11:43 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.8°C (1:42 PM CEST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:43 | eythian | it's almost like it's pretending summer wasn't cancelled |
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| 11:43 | drojf | autumn last week, almost 30° on saturday, back to autumn now |
| 11:44 | i don't like surprise summer day in between | |
| 11:47 | LibraryClaire | we were told it would go back to 30 again tomorrow or wednesday, dunno if that's true though |
| 11:47 | drojf | eeek |
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| 12:00 | eythian | it isn't going to happen here, that's for sure. |
| 12:03 | drojf | forecast says no. it also says one digit temperatures during the night. eeek |
| 12:03 | i don't need that much autumn | |
| 12:04 | cait | sun here |
| 12:04 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 12:04 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Luisenstraße, Konstanz, Germany is 24.4°C (2:03 PM CEST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:04 | drojf | südstaaten |
| 12:05 | cait | pf ) |
| 12:05 | drojf | :P |
| 12:09 | LibraryClaire | :) |
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| 12:14 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 12:16 | mveron | Hi drojf :-) |
| 12:16 | @wunder Allschwil | |
| 12:16 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Holderweg, Binningen, Switzerland is 27.4°C (2:12 PM CEST on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 12:18 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 12:19 | * mveron | waves |
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| 12:36 | cait | hm is it possible that koha normlizes isbn unasked for? |
| 12:36 | like... removing hyphens? | |
| 12:36 | *sighs* on importing with staged tools? or bulkmarkimport? | |
| 12:39 | kidclamp | anything is possible cait |
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| 12:42 | drojf | later #koha |
| 12:42 | LibraryClaire | o/ |
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| 12:46 | kidclamp | Hi LibraryClaire |
| 12:46 | Hi tcohen | |
| 12:47 | LibraryClaire | hi kidclamp :) |
| 12:47 | kidclamp | Did Joubu talk to you about plack/memcached tcohen? |
| 12:49 | tcohen | morning everyone |
| 12:49 | LibraryClaire | hi tcohen |
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| 12:55 | cait | --nocleanisbn in bulkmarkimport |
| 12:55 | so yes... it was Koha | |
| 12:56 | per default it will kill your hyphens if you don't tellt he script to not do that | |
| 12:56 | tcohen | hi kidclamp, more specifically? |
| 12:56 | cait | kidclamp: see above |
| 12:56 | tcohen | is anyone aware of recent changes in ISBN handling? |
| 12:56 | cait | what's the question? |
| 12:56 | wahanui | the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 12:56 | eythian | oh, wednesday is one of the warm days here, and I have to spend two hours on a boat that afternoon. Oh well. |
| 12:56 | cait | i just found out Koha eats hyphens :) |
| 12:57 | tcohen | recently, Search.t started failing |
| 12:57 | * tcohen | is lazy this morning, but could bisect it |
| 12:57 | kidclamp | tcohen: it seems that 'koha-plack --start' doesn't get the ENV needed for memcache |
| 12:57 | plackup.sh works fine | |
| 12:57 | tcohen | ah |
| 12:57 | cait | tcohen: you need to be more specific |
| 12:57 | tcohen | *that* |
| 12:58 | just a sec cait | |
| 12:58 | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]21___GRS_1__620_/ | |
| 13:01 | kidclamp: is anyone working on plack.psgi? | |
| 13:02 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 13:02 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 17.8°C (9:55 AM ART on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:04 | kidclamp | not that I know of tcohen |
| 13:07 | jcamins | eythian: Wednesday it's supposed to go up to 24º for you. For comparison... |
| 13:07 | @wunder 11375 | |
| 13:07 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Forest Hills, New York, New York is 27.1°C (9:07 AM EDT on August 15, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect from noon today to 8 PM EDT this evening... |
| 13:08 | eythian | jcamins: that sounds too warm to go on a boat. You should get a better climate. |
| 13:09 | jcamins | eythian: agreed. |
| 13:10 | tcohen | #koha I'm worried failing tests are accumulating |
| 13:10 | Joubu | tcohen: which ones? |
| 13:10 | wahanui | which ones are lighztning talks? |
| 13:11 | Joubu | I had a look this morning: 1 is going to be fixed (patch somewhere), and 2 others are related to Jenkins |
| 13:12 | marcelr | thx mveron++ |
| 13:12 | mveron | Graag gedaan :-) |
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| 13:15 | Joubu | tcohen: |
| 13:15 | Reserves.t => 16942 | |
| 13:15 | DecreaseLoanHighHolds.t => 17124 | |
| 13:15 | t/db_dependent/Holds/RevertWaitingStatus.t => 16942 | |
| 13:16 | tcohen: The 3 www fail with "Can't connect to koha_master:8080" | |
| 13:17 | Letters.t pass for me | |
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| 13:26 | marcelr | Joubu: did you see DataTables Reinitialize warnings before bug 15285 (see also 17125 for 3.22) ? |
| 13:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15285 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Upgrade DataTables to 1.10.10 or later |
| 13:27 | Joubu | marcelr: yes I usually see it when I wrote bad code :) |
| 13:28 | kidclamp | lol |
| 13:28 | marcelr | hm i am seeing in a 3.22 test version |
| 13:29 | mveron: you did it ! | |
| 13:29 | bug 17110 | |
| 13:29 | Joubu | marcelr: I cannot test right now (in the middle of something), but I will try in a few min |
| 13:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17110 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Lower CSRF expiry in Koha::Token |
| 13:30 | marcelr | thx Joubu |
| 13:34 | kidclamp | one |
| 13:34 | oops | |
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| 14:17 | Tylathos | Hey folks |
| 14:20 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 14:20 | LibraryClaire | hi tylathos |
| 14:20 | hi oleopard | |
| 14:35 | * oleonard | boggles at the request on the mailing list to be able to use a Koha demo for months at a time |
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| 14:41 | Tylathos | oleonard i think i should subscribe to the mailing lists of koha :P |
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| 14:53 | * cait | waves |
| 14:54 | Tylathos | Hey cait :9 |
| 14:56 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
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| 17:05 | eythian | wizzyrea: "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure is the first film in the unexpectedly successful, and still one hundred percent canonical, if sadly short-lived, American reboot of Doctor Who." |
| 17:07 | Dyrcona | heh |
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| 17:44 | circ-user-2Javc | email send overduce configuration ? |
| 17:45 | i have koha setup on VPS with ip address | |
| 17:45 | its possible to configure email send ? since we dont have domain | |
| 17:51 | liw | drojf, did your ITP bug get filed OK? |
| 17:53 | drojf | liw: it did. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=834363 i guess i should make friends with the perl team and only summon you in case they are mean to me ;) |
| 17:55 | circ-user-2Javc: koha does not send emails by itself. it uses the MTA (mail transfer agent) of your system. i'm sure there are configurations that will work. but there are a lot of MTA options and settings, and i can't assist with that | |
| 17:56 | circ-user-2Javc | ok |
| 17:56 | any idea how to configure | |
| 17:57 | drojf | you have to choose an MTA before you configure it |
| 17:57 | options are things like postfix, sendmail, exim4 … and probably a lot more | |
| 17:57 | and they all have individual configuration | |
| 17:58 | there is nullmailer which promises easy ending via an existing email address, but i have never made it work | |
| 18:01 | kidclamp | at least for my dev sites I use these instructions which work pretty well. I do not vouch for their use in production: http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]ces%20from%20Koha |
| 18:04 | circ-user-2Javc | thank for this |
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| 18:35 | Tylathos_ | bye #koha |
| 18:49 | cait | hm the jquery site exploded |
| 18:50 | some of the last changes have strange results | |
| 18:50 | jquery reports library? | |
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| 18:58 | cait | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]17037&oldid=17036 |
| 18:58 | i am not good with the wiki - is there a way to undo without undoing all of today's changes? | |
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| 19:11 | andreashm | hi all |
| 19:41 | aliki | hi there, if anyone has to recommend me any bug to check (librarianwise)... |
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| 20:04 | cait | hi aliki :) |
| 20:05 | let me have a look | |
| 20:06 | bug 17101 maybe? | |
| 20:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17101 new feature, P5 - low, ---, T.Reimann95, Needs Signoff , Confirm a question before check in |
| 20:07 | cait | it's a new option for the return message you can define for the item type |
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| 20:09 | cait | bug 16874 |
| 20:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16874 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Needs Signoff , Making serials collections actions buttons |
| 20:09 | cait | bug 14668 |
| 20:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14668 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Needs Signoff , Show serial enumeration in the patron's opac checkout summary |
| 20:14 | aliki | many thanks cait, I'll take a look at your recommendations ;) |
| 20:15 | cait | if there is a problem... you know where to find us :) |
| 20:17 | aliki: bug 16967 and 17014 maybe too - oleonard writes good test plans usually | |
| 20:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16967 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove the use of "onclick" from serial frequency and numbering management |
| 20:18 | aliki | Yeah, I might need your help, cause it's been a long time |
| 20:18 | great, thanks | |
| 20:18 | * cait | will stop now :) |
| 20:49 | cait | @later tell tcohen ping :) |
| 20:49 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:07 | rangi | morning |
| 21:07 | liw | druthb_away, aye, the perl team is your best next port of call :) they're nice people |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | hi |
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| 23:35 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 23:37 | sameeenz | hai! |
| 23:39 | wizzyrea | hi oleonard |
| 23:39 | you are visiting late :D | |
| 23:39 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea. Yeah, need to put in a little more time on the clock. |
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| 23:40 | dcook | heya oleonard |
| 23:40 | wahanui | oleonard is, like, not really here. He said so. He did |
| 23:40 | dcook | 7:40pm isn't *that* late :p |
| 23:40 | oleonard | Late for me to be here though :) |
| 23:41 | dcook | Good to see you in any case! |
| 23:41 | oleonard | Why are we tweeting about ILS privacy? Did someone do something rotten again? |
| 23:42 | rangi | ill message ya ;) |
| 23:43 | wizzyrea | ell ohh ell |
| 23:44 | dcook | oh my... cc this person in! |
| 23:45 | sameeenz | Also me, plz. |
| 23:47 | jcamins | We're tweeting about ILS privacy? Oh dear. |
| 23:47 | oleonard | I miss all o' y'all Oceanians. |
| 23:47 | Just sayin'. | |
| 23:48 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 23:51 | dcook | :D |
| 23:51 | We miss you too! | |
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