IRC log for #koha, 2016-06-16

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01:02 mtj hey #koha, is koha 3.22.x and debian7 (jessie) a safe combo?
01:05 ..i recall that ubuntu-16 has a problem with koha, using mysql-server5.7
01:06 but koha-3.22 on jessie is all good? (as it still uses mysql 5.5)
01:08 oops, jessie is deb8, of course :)
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01:39 wizzyrea mtj: yes
01:40 mtj thanks liz, grate nooz
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06:10 * magnuse waves
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06:26 LibraryClaire Morning #koha
06:29 magnuse @wunder boo
06:29 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
06:37 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
06:37 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 15.0°C (7:20 AM BST on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
06:38 magnuse humility: 56%
06:41 eythian https://plus.google.com/+Robin[…]posts/AkezQER6WvL <-- guess I have to upload everything before I can download anything
06:48 drojf1 morning #koha
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06:51 LibraryClaire Hi drojf
06:51 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire
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06:55 alex_a bonjour
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06:59 reiveune hello
06:59 * LibraryClaire waves
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07:18 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:18 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 17.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
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07:32 marcelr hi #koha
07:34 LibraryClaire Hi marcelr
07:34 marcelr :)
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08:00 mveron Hi #koha
08:01 @wunder Allschwil
08:01 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 12.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
08:01 mveron @wunder Basel
08:01 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 12.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
08:02 liw @wunder helsinki
08:02 huginn` liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 15.0°C (10:50 AM EEST on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
08:02 mveron No weather in Basel. Maybe because of the rain....
08:02 marcelr hi mveron
08:02 mveron goede morgen marcelr :-)
08:03 We have a regression: Bug 16747
08:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16747 critical, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Fix regression in patron card creator (patron image)
08:08 drojf hi mveron and marcelr
08:09 mveron hi drojf
08:09 marcelr gute morgen drojf
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09:01 eythian @later tell kathryn https://katieconf.xyz/
09:01 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded.
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09:12 arcer121 hi! I am setting up a big library. If anyone would help me with all the small small doubts that I have every now and then, I would be very greatful.
09:13 To start with, we have 5 main categories of collection. I defined the five in 'Item Types'
09:14 Three of them are not for loan, one can be loaned by any patron, and one category can be leased by one a special category of patrons.
09:16 So how do I restrict this particular 'Item Type' to be check-out-able by a special category of patrons?
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09:30 * andreashm waves
09:39 drojf hi andreashm
09:42 andreashm hey drojf
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09:56 arcer121 are the library staff also patrons?
10:02 mveron arcer121: Yes. For permissions see http://manual.koha-community.o[…]npermissions.html
10:02 drojf arcer121: you might want to read the manual before you set up a big library
10:03 arcer121 I am just simulating it on my laptop before the actual work.
10:03 mveron Oh, lunchtime...
10:03 wahanui lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
10:03 arcer121 Thanks!
10:19 drojf marcelr: do you remember why bug 6536 only supports sru targets for biblio search and not authorities? were there technical reasons not to do it, or just because you had no use case for it?
10:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536 new feature, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Z3950 Search Enhancements: SRU targets and additional XSLT processing
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10:19 marcelr drojf: didn't dcook write the authority side later on?
10:20 drojf i don't think so. at least if i add a sru target, it's hardcoded to biblios
10:20 or its a bug in the template file
10:20 marcelr look at the Record type parameter in Z3950 admin
10:21 Biblio or Auth
10:21 drojf that does not work for sru targets
10:21 marcelr ok
10:21 drojf its bibliographic and grey
10:21 at least for me :)
10:21 marcelr yeah could be
10:21 i never needed one
10:22 drojf i tried it at some point and just expected it to work. then i found it does not. wanted to ask at the hackfest, but forgot
10:22 marcelr should not be that hard to add it :)
10:22 drojf no i guess most code could be copied
10:23 marcelr iirc the code has been copied already; we should try to consolidate again
10:23 drojf but i thought there may have been reasons not to do it that i can't see ;)
10:23 marcelr no technical reasons
10:23 drojf ok
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10:40 wizzycray eythian: hahaha I showed katieconf to kathryn too
10:49 drojf i should ask that other drojf to have a drojfconf
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11:09 oleonard Hi #koha
11:11 drojf hi oleonard
11:12 brb
11:15 druthb o/
11:15 oleonard Good morning druthb
11:15 druthb :)  Hi, oleonard!
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12:01 tcohen hola #koha
12:01 @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:01 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 6.2°C (9:00 AM ART on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
12:01 tcohen brrr
12:02 LibraryClaire afternoon #koha
12:03 tcohen hi LibraryClaire
12:03 LibraryClaire hi tcohen :)
12:05 drojf hi tcohen
12:05 @wunder berlin, germany
12:05 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 22.0°C (1:50 PM CEST on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising).
12:07 mveron Hi again #koha
12:22 tcohen hi mveron
12:22 mveron hi tcohen
12:27 magnuse @wunder boo
12:27 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
12:27 magnuse ooh, i beat tcohen
12:27 tcohen yes! its cold here!
12:37 magnuse tcohen: is it normal for this time of year?
12:37 btw, your winter, my summer ;-)
12:37 tcohen exactly
12:37 blou Hey Cait, thanks a lot for your hint about LDAP bug 8993 yesterday.  Saved my bacon.
12:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , LDAP authentication improvements: multiple branch and transformation modules
12:45 druthb @wunder 77098
12:45 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 27.2°C (7:45 AM CDT on June 16, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect from 10 am this morning to 7 PM CDT this evening...
12:45 druthb Jealous, tcohen?  Nice and warm here.
12:46 tcohen druthb: definitely!
12:46 drojf not sure if 27° at 7:45am qualifies as nice
12:46 tcohen if it was 5pm for my tennis match it would be awesome
12:47 drojf hehe
12:47 druthb with the humidity later, it'll feel like about 41, come mid-afternoon
12:47 drojf nice tennis weather. erghs
12:47 druthb I'm not saying it's hot or anything, but two hobbits threw a ring into my back yard yesterday.
12:48 oleonard :P
12:48 druthb (thought it was bag, at first.)
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12:55 liw druthb, haha
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13:20 oleonard I wonder if we should prevent the creation of budgets with duplicate names
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13:22 oleonard Related: When we duplicate a budget, should we add something to the duplicated budget description? "Copy of X" or "X (2)" or something like that?
13:24 magnuse oleonard: in general, that sounds like a good idea
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14:16 bag @later tell rangi - So last night in my dreams - I kept riding in taxi’s and whenever I got to where I arrived you came out of nowhere and paid my taxi bill - then looked at me and said - hi - I need more champange and ran off to get more.  Had me laughing… random
14:16 huginn` bag: The operation succeeded.
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14:43 cbrannon kidclamp: when you get a moment, check out bug 16756.
14:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16756 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't link guarantor when guarantor has apostrophes in record
14:43 kidclamp @later tell Joubu can you check the comment on 14874 and let me know your thoughts?
14:43 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
14:44 kidclamp is that causing issues for you cbrannon?
14:45 cbrannon Yes.  Staff keep bumping into it.  I just tested scenarios and posted the bug.  Really weird conditions.  And of course our library AND city have apostrophes in the names.
14:46 kidclamp does that trigger it for patrons without the apostrpohe anywhere?
14:46 that bug got tied into the prevent xss bug, but that was reverted and I am not sure the current status
14:46 anyone know?
14:47 bag XSS was reverted - we’ve been sort of picking at little parts of that though
14:49 cbrannon kidclamp: not sure of your question.  If there are no apostrophes in the record (at least in the city and library that show on the search results), you can search by name or card number and link just fine.
14:49 kidclamp sorry cbrannon I was wondering if all patrons at library with ' are affected, or only if they have ' in other parts of their record
14:51 cbrannon It's patrons with either an apostrophe in the city or in the library name.  Doesn't have to be both.
14:51 kidclamp okay, got it
14:51 will look into that today
14:52 cbrannon Awesome.  Really bizarre on the conditions, and especially in the manner the patron is searched for if it is just the library name.
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15:35 LibraryClaire laters #koha
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15:53 reiveune bye
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16:10 kyr_stefanidis aloha
16:14 A quick question. Now that 16.05 is live, "oldstable" dist (the one that i always use for production servers) points to 3.22. Is there anyway to change my package inst sources so that they keep updating 3.20 instead of upgrading to 3.22?
16:16 hmm... hoping into irc for just for a question seems not polite. I ll take it to the mailing lists instead
16:17 drojf kyr_stefanidis: there are no packages for 3.20 any longer
16:18 we only have packages for the last two branches. however 3.20 is still supported, you could build your own packages for deployment
16:18 kyr_stefanidis oh well, thank you for the answer. It seems I ll have to upgrade to 3.22 asap then
16:18 drojf and coming to irc for a question is fine, it just may take a while to get an anwer
16:19 so you have to stay a little and see if people have an answer ;)
16:19 kyr_stefanidis I was prepared or a long wait (coffe, coockies and such). the answer came faster than anticipated :)
16:19 drojf hehe
16:20 ok gotta go. later #koha
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16:35 Shane-S Does Koha track "last seen" meaning a book that was scanned with check-in but had no check-out, to verify it is still in possession?
16:36 If it does, I assume there is a report for it..any clue what it is called? I am on https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Checked_Out_Books and not sure what I am looking for there.
16:36 eythian Yeah, there's a field in the table for that.
16:36 I forget what it's calledb though
16:36 Look for info on stocktaking
16:37 (it uses this mechanism)
16:37 Shane-S okay, I have chromebooks entered into Koha, and I am trying to see what spares Koha says I should have, and what I actually have by re-scanning and then searching for ones "not seen" in over 9 months
16:39 I guess thinking about it, I should check them out to myself and then back in each year
16:43 oleonard kidclamp still around?
16:44 kidclamp sortof in meeting so will be slow
16:44 oleonard kidclamp: I just wanted to mention that I have a patch that I think will fix bug 16756. I'll see if I can get it ready today.
16:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16756 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't link guarantor when guarantor has apostrophes in record
16:45 kidclamp oh sweet
16:45 that would be incredibly helpful, you post it I'll sing off
16:45 oleonard++
16:46 oleonard (yet another reason to avoid 'onclick', I'm pretty sure)
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17:11 oleonard kidclamp: It wasn't an in-progress patch I was thinking of, it was Bug 16450, which hasn't been picked up for 3.22.x
17:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16450 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove the use of "onclick" from guarantor search template
17:13 kidclamp ah, I thought it was working in master but hadn't dug in
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17:15 drojf evening
17:21 barton rt 26521
17:22 oleonard barton: We don't serve /those/ droids here
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17:34 MauricioB-ECU hello everyone...
17:35 oleonard Hi MauricioB-ECU
17:36 MauricioB-ECU i just want to say is nice to join the group
17:36 i'm new in kiha world
17:36 :)
17:36 sorry my poor english
17:37 oleonard Welcome, MauricioB-ECU. Don't worry about your English. it's an international group here.
17:37 Where are you from?
17:38 MauricioB-ECU Ecuador
17:38 thanks
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18:05 drojf hi MauricioB-ECU
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18:36 oleonard Bug 3477
18:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3477 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED WONTFIX, Store patron OPAC passwords in plain text
18:37 oleonard Ah, memories!
18:38 I can't imagine what kind of other garbage they put into their software because they wouldn't say no to their customers.
18:38 drojf wow. best bug ever
18:38 err, enhancement
18:40 maybe we can reopen it and discuss again
18:42 @seen jwagner
18:42 huginn` drojf: jwagner was last seen in #koha 1 year, 17 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 16 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <jwagner> #info Jane Wagner, PTFS
18:43 oleonard Yeah jwagner stuck around for a long time not saying anything except to check in at meetings.
18:44 drojf yeah and bring up apache license in the license discussion, as if that was an option ever considered
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18:47 mveron evening...
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19:13 oleonard Bye #koha
19:21 hector Hi mveron
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19:46 nuentoter hello
19:46 wahanui privet, nuentoter
19:49 nuentoter could someone here help me with some sql?
19:50 pianohacker depends on the sql ;)
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19:52 pianohacker ashimema_!
19:52 heyman
19:54 :(
19:55 nuentoter im tyring to pull all bibs without records
19:55 SELECT biblionumber, title
19:55 FROM biblio
19:55 sorry didnt mean to paste in room
19:55 just switched to tiled wm and still getting used to keyboard shortcuts for everything
20:05 pianohacker nuentoter: nice! which wm?
20:05 nuentoter awesome
20:05 pianohacker by bibs without records, do you mean bibs without items?
20:05 nuentoter: nice! I used that for a while and quite liked it. Switched to i3 a while back, but they're pretty close
20:06 nuentoter yeah biblio records with no items
20:06 for some reason I have a handful of duplicates in my system when i look something up, and the duplicates have no items
20:07 so if i can round them up all together and delete them i should be good (i hope)
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20:08 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
20:08 pianohacker nuentoter: SELECT ... FROM biblio LEFT JOIN items USING (biblionumber) GROUP BY biblionumber WHERE items.itemnumber IS NULL;
20:08 nuentoter: out of curiosity, are you familiar with the reports library?
20:09 nuentoter nope im jumped into all of this semi-recently and am learning the hard way lol
20:10 pianohacker reports library?
20:10 wahanui it has been said that reports library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library
20:10 pianohacker nuentoter: ^
20:11 nuentoter ty ill be reading for a bit now :)
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20:38 barton does anyone know off hand whether it's now possible to use elastic on the sandbox sites?
20:38 drojf barton: my guess is no
20:39 barton that was going to be my guess as well, but I was hoping to be proved wrong :-)
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20:55 nuentoter where is this chat logged?
20:56 drojf http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/today
21:01 nuentoter df
21:02
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21:32 talljoy hi #koha
21:32 anyone in that has access to bug 14298
21:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14298 is not accessible.
21:32 rangi yep
21:32 talljoy i have an upgrade from 3.06 where the updatedatabase is failing on this part
21:32 what should i be looking for on this?
21:33 rangi what version are you updating too
21:33 talljoy 3.22.06
21:33 rangi its pushed to stable, ill make the bug public now
21:33 talljoy thx
21:33 rangi there ya go
21:33 talljoy yay me!!!
21:33 thanks rangi!
21:34 rangi @later tell bag that's totally plausible too
21:34 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded.
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21:57 rangi hmm i guess linode rebooted the server
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21:59 rangi right
22:00 so how the hell do you attach a pdf to a bib record in 3.22.x ?
22:02 drojf rangi: in the framework, set the upload plugin for 856u
22:02 rangi thank you
22:02 drojf then you can add a file while cataloguing
22:02 rangi ta
22:03 drojf you may need to set the UPLOAD authorized value to some path before
22:16 magnuse isn't there something like upload_path you need to set in koha-conf.xml, if it is not set?
22:16 rangi yep, had set that bit
22:16 just didnt know where you went to actually upload, working now
22:17 magnuse yay
22:17 upload all the files, then! :-)
22:26 pianohacker @later tell matts out of curiosity, why doesn't the staff CAS code append $query->script_name when building the service URL?
22:26 huginn` pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
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22:31 pianohacker Joubu: did you sign off 16166 but not add your stamp to the commits?
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23:10 * cait waves
23:11 wizzyrea hi cait
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