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| 03:33 | dcook | Don't suppose rangi or gmcharlt are around? | 
| 03:33 | Or anyone who does their own Debian packages? | |
| 03:48 | wizzyrea | rangi is away today | 
| 03:48 | dcook | cheers wizzyrea :) | 
| 03:48 | I think I answered my own question in any case | |
| 03:48 | wizzyrea | \o/ | 
| 03:48 | * dcook | has been looking at building RPMs for an unrelated project | 
| 03:49 | dcook | I'm so not volunteering as RPM package manager... but I'd like to know more about the decisions made with the Debian packages | 
| 03:49 | In theory... it might not be too hard to make RPMs... although dependencies would still be hell on non-Debian systems | |
| 03:50 | Well, Perl dependencies at least | |
| 03:50 | * dcook | isn't volunteering to build RPMs for heaps of Perl packages either :p | 
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| 04:14 | drojf | evening | 
| 04:16 | dcook: volunteering as rpm packaging manager? that's awesome! | |
| 04:16 | dcook | :P | 
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| 05:18 | liw | dcook, I'm occasionally around Europan daytime, and I might still remember some reasons for my original packaigng decisions for Koha, if that helps | 
| 05:19 | dcook | liw: Thanks :). | 
| 05:19 | I'm not sure what I have in mind at the moment, as I'm occupied with a different project, but I'll keep that in mind | |
| 05:31 | * magnuse | waves | 
| 05:31 | dcook | hey magnuse | 
| 05:32 | magnuse | dcook: you can go home now :-) | 
| 05:33 | dcook | Nah, it's only 3:33 :p | 
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| 05:38 | magnuse | dcook: that's when a typical norwegian workday ends :-) | 
| 05:39 | dcook | I have a head cold at the moment, so I wouldn't be opposed to going home... :p | 
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| 06:04 | fridolin | hie | 
| 06:06 | magnuse | bonjour fridolin | 
| 06:06 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:06 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 9.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Steady). | 
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| 06:17 | LibraryClaire | Morning #koha | 
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| 06:24 | fridolin | magnuse: bonjour, ouuu cold | 
| 06:24 | @wunder montpellier | |
| 06:24 | huginn` | fridolin: The current temperature in Montpellier, France is 18.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Falling). | 
| 06:25 | fridolin | arf it was sunny yesterday with 30 degrees | 
| 06:25 | magnuse | that's too hot! | 
| 06:36 | eythian | @wunder ams | 
| 06:36 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.0°C (8:33 AM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). | 
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| 06:45 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY | 
| 06:45 | huginn` | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 15.0°C (7:20 AM BST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). | 
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| 06:50 | reiveune | hello | 
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| 06:58 | alex_a | bonjour | 
| 06:58 | wahanui | kia ora, alex_a | 
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| 07:18 | gaetan_B | hello | 
| 07:18 | wahanui | bonjour, gaetan_B | 
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| 09:12 | drojf | morning #koha | 
| 09:12 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 09:12 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 16.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). | 
| 09:12 | LibraryClaire | morning drojf | 
| 09:12 | drojf | hi LibraryClaire | 
| 09:13 | playing with catmandu until 6 in the morning was a grreat idea | |
| 09:14 | LibraryClaire | ooow :/ | 
| 09:35 | magnuse | lol | 
| 09:41 | drojf: did you have fun? | |
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| 09:43 | drojf | magnuse: i prepared 1,5 data migrations, it wasn't bad | 
| 09:45 | magnuse | yay! | 
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| 10:18 | cait | hi #koha | 
| 10:20 | LibraryClaire | hi cait :) | 
| 10:22 | cait | hi LibraryClaire :) | 
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| 11:32 | khall | Joubu: what do you think of this? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=15707#c75 | 
| 11:32 | huginn` | 04Bug 15707: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add ability to define hierarchical groups of libraries | 
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| 11:41 | oleonard | Hi #koha | 
| 11:42 | cait | hi oleonard :) | 
| 11:42 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard | 
| 11:44 | oleonard | Is there an upcoming dev meeting scheduled? | 
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| 11:45 | cait | oleonard: not sure, was on my list to check latr | 
| 11:46 | i think we might have missed one for lack of attendance and no new date was set | |
| 11:46 | oleonard | Yeah that's the way it looks to me too | 
| 11:47 | I need to know when to start threatening to break people's legs if they don't vote my way. | |
| 11:48 | cait | lol | 
| 11:48 | we would vote for your suggestions even witout understanding them | |
| 11:54 | * cait | has done that at least once *hides* | 
| 11:56 | oleonard | Yes, my proposal that every dev should be required to wear a jeweled crown went over well. | 
| 11:56 | cait | oh didn't get one yet! | 
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| 12:09 | oleonard | fredericd++ # rmainting | 
| 12:10 | cait | fredericd++ :) | 
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| 12:15 | * oleonard | didn't mean to close that window | 
| 12:15 | magnuse | fredericd++ | 
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| 12:24 | * oleonard | cannot reproduce Bug 16743 | 
| 12:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16743 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Datatables error when checking overdues in chrome | 
| 12:25 | oleonard | Maybe it would help if that screenshot were cropped a little more :P | 
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| 12:28 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! | 
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| 12:35 | tcohen | hola magnuse | 
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| 12:54 | tcohen | morning #koha | 
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| 12:59 | blou | bonjour koha! | 
| 13:01 | tcohen | hola blou | 
| 13:01 | cait | hi blou! | 
| 13:01 | blou | Hello tcohen! Hello cait! | 
| 13:02 | Any of you is a LDAP expert :^) | |
| 13:02 | cait | sorry, not me | 
| 13:02 | blou | Don't be sorry! | 
| 13:02 | cait | we got one library using it, but thankfully I am not the one to set that up :) | 
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| 13:07 | blou | I'm trying to determine if Koha can specify many "base" in its configuration, or only one. Professors and student have differnt info... | 
| 13:08 | cait | hm i think currently only one ldap... but there might be patches around for multiple | 
| 13:08 | it#s hard to get ldap patches tested | |
| 13:08 | blou | I'm trying to determine if I purely suck at LDAP and don't know how to do it. OR Koha config's can't do it. | 
| 13:08 | cait | bug 8993 | 
| 13:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , LDAP authentication improvements: multiple branch and transformation modules | 
| 13:12 | blou | VERY interesting, cait. | 
| 13:13 | Although, it seems pushed, then not, then... I'm confused. | |
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| 13:23 | blou | weather | 
| 13:23 | drojf | no, thanks | 
| 13:23 | :P | |
| 13:24 | blou | :) | 
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| 13:26 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 | 
| 13:26 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 22.4°C (9:26 AM EDT on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). | 
| 13:27 | blou | Well, Julian might be on luck with #8893: I think I'll be able to signoff his patch through testing it live on a production environment. | 
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| 14:08 | khall | oleonard: can I get your input on bug 14790? I'm wondering if there is a better icon for the new buttons I've added | 
| 14:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14790 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Link to OPAC view from within subscriptions, search and item editor | 
| 14:08 | oleonard | Sure | 
| 14:08 | khall | thanks! | 
| 14:14 | oleonard | khall: I disagree that the toolbar is the correct place for an OPAC view link, because the toolbar is supposed to be for things that you can do /to/ whatever is being viewed (patron, biblio, subscription) | 
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| 14:15 | khall | oleonard: where should they go? I'm open to suggestions | 
| 14:16 | oleonard | On the subscription detail view we already have a link to the biblio, so it seems logical that we could add another line under that to link to the OPAC | 
| 14:16 | In the catalog we already have a link to the OPAC, so the button is not necessary (IMO) | |
| 14:17 | khall | yes, I see now | 
| 14:17 | I'll drop that patch and update the subscription detail one, how about the others? | |
| 14:19 | oleonard | Others look good to me khall | 
| 14:19 | khall | excellent! thanks! | 
| 14:19 | I'll make those changes | |
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| 14:32 | kidclamp | morning all | 
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| 14:40 | oleonard | How does the "uncertain price" setting fit into the aquisitions workflow? | 
| 15:00 | reiveune | bye | 
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| 15:11 | gaetan_B | bye! | 
| 15:15 | oleonard | Ha ha, 'target="_blank"' is so unreliable! It's almost as if the universe were telling us to cut it out and let the user decide. | 
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| 15:44 | cait | oleonard: still interested in uncertain price? | 
| 15:44 | oleonard | Yes | 
| 15:44 | cait | oleonard: you can't close a basket when one of the order lies has set uncertain price | 
| 15:44 | it forces you to resolve that first | |
| 15:44 | you can do so in batch using the uncertain price page | |
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| 15:44 | cait | but... I don't know a library which is using it, they usually make something up if they are not sure or use 0 - without doing this extra step | 
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| 15:46 | oleonard | cait: I'm curious, why wouldn't a library use it instead of having an order with a 0 price? | 
| 15:46 | Because they'll change it in the item later? | |
| 15:47 | cait | because you can't close the order | 
| 15:47 | an when you can't close it - it never goes to 'ordered' status | |
| 15:47 | and can not be received | |
| 15:47 | and you can always give the real price you paid on receive | |
| 15:48 | so it turns up in your budget and should also go into the item | |
| 15:49 | the probelm really is that it blocks you from closing the basket | |
| 15:49 | why the libraries i talked to are not using it | |
| 15:49 | if it was just a flag that would probably be used | |
| 15:50 | * cait | hopes that made sense | 
| 15:51 | oleonard | Yes, thanks cait | 
| 15:52 | cait | it's acquisitions... *sighs* | 
| 15:59 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 15:59 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 19.6°C (5:59 PM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). | 
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| 16:56 | oleonard | Bye #koha | 
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| 17:12 | nengard_library | hey #koha, i'm visiting a library trying to find the bug report about how you can use __DATE__ or some such to put the date in the marc record | 
| 17:13 | anyone know what bug i'm talking about? | |
| 17:15 | kidclamp | can you give any more context for the bug? is that the whole purpose? or is it part of batch edit? | 
| 17:15 | khall | nengard_chicktech: I'm not finding anything like that in master | 
| 17:16 | nengard_library | the purpose was to have default values in the frameowkr | 
| 17:16 | so you could do name or date or some other field | |
| 17:17 | and it would fill in on all new records for you | |
| 17:17 | the syntax is what i can't remember but it was something like __DATE__ __USER__ | |
| 17:20 | kidclamp | nengard_library https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=7045? | 
| 17:20 | huginn` | 04Bug 7045: minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, druthb, Failed QA , Default-value substitution inconsistent | 
| 17:20 | kidclamp | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7045 | 
| 17:20 | huginn` | 04Bug 7045: minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, druthb, Failed QA , Default-value substitution inconsistent | 
| 17:21 | druthb | gosh, I remember that oldy moldy | 
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| 17:22 | nengard_library | kidclamp++ | 
| 17:24 | kidclamp | also for items: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14950 | 
| 17:24 | huginn` | 04Bug 14950: normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , A date is not correctly filled in default values from batch mod [was Remove C4::Dates from tools/batchMod.pl] | 
| 17:25 | nengard_library | in pianohacker in? | 
| 17:25 | kidclamp? | |
| 17:25 | wahanui | kidclamp is terrible at time zones | 
| 17:25 | nengard_library | HA | 
| 17:25 | pianohacker | ? | 
| 17:25 | nengard_library | pianohacker!!! | 
| 17:25 | wahanui | regexes are AWESOME | 
| 17:25 | pianohacker | sup | 
| 17:25 | nengard_library | is there a way to use macros in advanced cataloging to enter today's date? | 
| 17:26 | say yes | |
| 17:26 | pianohacker | uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not currently | 
| 17:26 | nengard_library | pooo | 
| 17:26 | how hard would it be? | |
| 17:26 | pianohacker | not terribly | 
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| 17:27 | nengard_library | might have another idea from RR for that | 
| 17:28 | thanks all!! | |
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| 21:05 | * mveron | can no longer print patron cards with patron images - Bug 16747 | 
| 21:05 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16747 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Patron card creator broken with version 16.05 | 
| 21:07 | mveron | Good night / daytime #koha | 
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| 21:32 | tcohen | hi | 
| 21:32 | wahanui | what's up, tcohen | 
| 21:32 | tcohen | hey wahanui | 
| 21:33 | CHRIS2 | Hello | 
| 21:33 | I am here seeking some help | |
| 21:33 | anyone available | |
| 21:33 | tcohen | just shoot | 
| 21:33 | someone might help | |
| 21:34 | CHRIS2 | I just upgraded to Koha 3.22.07.000 | 
| 21:34 | I just realized that I am getting 2 errors in the system information area of Koha | |
| 21:35 | XML configuration file | |
| 21:35 | Warning You are missing the <log4perl_conf> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please add it, pointing to the log4perl.conf file for your Koha instance. | |
| 21:35 | Warning You are missing the <upload_path> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please add it, pointing to the configured file upload directory for your Koha instance. | |
| 21:35 | Is there a fix for this. | |
| 21:35 | tcohen | not an automatic one | 
| 21:36 | the upgrade scripts currently don't handle that | |
| 21:36 | so you get a warning so you fix them | |
| 21:36 | what is your instance name? | |
| 21:37 | you can check it by running $ sudo koha-list | |
| 21:38 | CHRIS2 | the output of that command is library | 
| 21:38 | tcohen | so | 
| 21:38 | you should edit your /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml file | |
| 21:39 | CHRIS2 | one sec let me bring that up | 
| 21:40 | its up | |
| 21:40 | any particular line or area I should look for. | |
| 21:40 | tcohen | does it mean you opened the file for editing? | 
| 21:40 | CHRIS2 | yes | 
| 21:40 | tcohen | ok, at the bottom | 
| 21:40 | wahanui | at the bottom are the user name and password for Koha. | 
| 21:40 | tcohen | search for upload_path | 
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| 21:41 | tcohen | ah, you won't have it | 
| 21:41 | hehe | |
| 21:41 | CHRIS2 | yeh | 
| 21:41 | tcohen | sorry | 
| 21:41 | search for enable_plugins | |
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| 21:41 | CHRIS2 | its not there | 
| 21:41 | tcohen | did u find it? | 
| 21:41 | CHRIS2 | missing | 
| 21:42 | tcohen | no enable_plugins either? | 
| 21:42 | CHRIS2 | enable_plugins is there | 
| 21:43 | tcohen | ok, below the enable_plugins line | 
| 21:43 | add | |
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| 21:43 | tcohen | <upload_path>/var/lib/koha/library/uploads</upload_path> | 
| 21:43 | save the file, and you are done | |
| 21:46 | so? | |
| 21:46 | wahanui | rumour has it so is a long road | 
| 21:46 | CHRIS2 | ok that took care of the upload path | 
| 21:47 | I still have the log4perl_conf error | |
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| 21:48 | tcohen | CHRIS2: cp /etc/koha/log4perl-site.conf.in /etc/koha/sites/library/log4perl.conf | 
| 21:48 | then edit /etc/koha/sites/library/log4perl.conf | |
| 21:49 | and replace __LOG_DIR__ | |
| 21:49 | for /var/log/koha/library | |
| 21:50 | then, head to https://koha-community.org/ | |
| 21:50 | and use the 'Donate' button to give the community a few bucks | |
| 21:50 | :-P | |
| 21:52 | CHRIS2 | one sec | 
| 21:53 | tcohen | the /var/lib/koha/library/uploads needs to exist for the feature to work | 
| 21:54 | mkdir -p /var/lib/koha/library/uploads ; chown library-koha -r /var/lib/koha/library/uploads | |
| 21:54 | * tcohen | forgot that | 
| 21:58 | CHRIS2 | invalid option -r | 
| 21:58 | tcohen | -R | 
| 21:59 | chown library-koha -R /var/lib/koha/library/uploads | |
| 22:00 | (the first command got executed already) | |
| 22:00 | CHRIS2 | yes | 
| 22:01 | i did it in two parts | |
| 22:01 | I am now editing the log4perl file | |
| 22:01 | I notice there are two areas where there is__LOG_DIR__ | |
| 22:02 | should I change both of them? | |
| 22:02 | tcohen | yup | 
| 22:06 | CHRIS2 | Error still there | 
| 22:07 | tcohen | chown library-koha /etc/koha/sites/library/log4perl.conf | 
| 22:07 | ? | |
| 22:09 | CHRIS2 | yes | 
| 22:09 | still there | |
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| 22:12 | tcohen | service memcached restart | 
| 22:12 | CHRIS2 | unrecognized service | 
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | you are full refreshing that right | 
| 22:13 | shift+f5 | |
| 22:13 | tcohen | ctrl+shift+r | 
| 22:14 | CHRIS2 | yes I did | 
| 22:14 | I even logged out of koha and loged back in | |
| 22:16 | tcohen | CHRIS2: my bad, I forgot something else | 
| 22:16 | CHRIS2 | k | 
| 22:17 | tcohen | you need to point your koha-conf.xml to it | 
| 22:17 | edit your koha-conf.xml file again | |
| 22:17 | search for queryparser | |
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| 22:17 | tcohen | and write this below | 
| 22:18 | <log4perl_conf>/etc/koha/sites/library/log4perl.conf</log4perl_conf> | |
| 22:18 | pianohacker | tcohen++ | 
| 22:18 | tcohen | hehe | 
| 22:19 | CHRIS2 | I was wondering about that too seeing that we did that for the first error. | 
| 22:19 | tcohen | yeah, I didn't want you to write it to koha-conf.xml before the file existed | 
| 22:19 | because it could make Koha break until the file existed | |
| 22:20 | and then, of course, forgot | |
| 22:23 | have to leave | |
| 22:23 | CHRIS2: hope it is fixed | |
| 22:23 | bye! | |
| 22:25 | CHRIS2 | Up up and awayyyyy!!!!! in smoke. Fixed. Thanks a million | 
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| 23:22 | tcohen | hi | 
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| 23:52 | wizzyrea | hi | 
| 23:52 | wahanui | que tal, wizzyrea | 
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