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| 01:04 | Francesca | hey |
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| 06:11 | * cait1 | waves and runs out again |
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| 06:23 | fridolin | hie |
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| 06:28 | LibraryClaire | Morning |
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| 06:48 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:53 | matts | hi #koha ! |
| 06:54 | drojf | bonjour matts |
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| 07:03 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:16 | * magnuse | waves again |
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| 07:18 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:19 | LibraryClaire | Hi marcelr |
| 07:19 | marcelr | :) |
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| 07:29 | drojf | hi marcelr |
| 07:29 | marcelr | hello drojf |
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| 07:59 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY |
| 07:59 | huginn` | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 12.0°C (8:50 AM BST on June 09, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:59 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 07:59 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 18.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 09, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:41 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:41 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on June 09, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:41 | magnuse | hm, seems we're stuck |
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| 09:52 | gerundio | hi, good morning |
| 09:52 | I've been using Koha for some years now | |
| 09:52 | I was asked to perform an upgrade to 3.22.7... just to find out that the next day version 16.05 was released | |
| 09:53 | cait | gerundio: it's just come out - i'd wait a bit |
| 09:53 | gerundio | is there a safe upgrade path to this new version from 3.2x family? |
| 09:53 | cait | 3.22.x latest sounds sensible |
| 09:53 | yes of course, we only changed the version naming | |
| 09:53 | gerundio | I couldn't find any information about that version naming |
| 09:53 | cait | it's now year.month - but it would have been just a 3.24 otherwise |
| 09:54 | gerundio | ok, thanks |
| 09:54 | cait++ | |
| 09:54 | cait | but be careful - known problems with newer mysql versions etc |
| 09:54 | gerundio | ok |
| 09:54 | cait | so maybe wait a bit longer or use the latest 3.22 |
| 09:54 | gerundio | I'll stick to 3.22.7 for now :) |
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| 10:01 | cait | hi irma! |
| 10:04 | eythian | someone ought to write ablog post about the version change |
| 10:05 | * cait | doesn't have a blog |
| 10:05 | drojf | koha does |
| 10:06 | you just need to write te article :P | |
| 10:06 | the | |
| 10:07 | did "use biblio number as control number" ever become a real thing or is it still just a hack somebody used? | |
| 10:17 | cait | hack |
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| 10:26 | Nikesh | Hi .... I am from Khalifa Univesity Abu Dhabi. |
| 10:27 | We are in the process of implementing KOHA. I finished with installing and also uploaded MARC records. When I do a title searching , words from series are also appearing. Is there any way to restrict the search to title only by excluding words from series field | |
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| 11:17 | magnuse | drojf: bug 9921 |
| 11:17 | wahanui | somebody said bug 9921 was about forcing the biblionumber into 001, not making what is in 001 be the biblionumber |
| 11:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo.lopez, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber |
| 11:18 | * magnuse | tries to tackle bug 16694 |
| 11:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16694 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Limit SIP2 auth by patron attribute |
| 11:18 | drojf | magnuse: thanks |
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| 11:27 | jzairo | morning khall |
| 11:27 | khall | mornin! |
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| 11:27 | vfernandes | hi :) |
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| 11:29 | vfernandes | one quick question: it's possible to create a default po file with some translations and apply them to a specific tt file? |
| 11:33 | Marianne | Hi! Does anyone know if its possible to set a maximum loantime including renewal. We would like to say that you can renew x times but not for longer than a total time of 84 days. One ordinary loanperiod before renewal is set to 28 days. |
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| 11:54 | magnuse | Marianne: i don't that is possible. you'd have to set a max number of renewals and a renewal length that adds up to your total |
| 11:54 | so they get 84 if they wait as long as possible before renewing | |
| 12:00 | bgkriegel_ | vfernandes: yes, it's possible |
| 12:01 | vfernandes: you need to create the po file, specific for that file | |
| 12:02 | vfernandes: perl tmpl_process3.pl create -i ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/ -f opac-main.tt -s specific.po | |
| 12:02 | that for opac-main.tt, just an example | |
| 12:03 | to apply it you can run: perl tmpl_process3.pl install -i ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/ -o ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/xx-YY/modules/ -f opac-main.tt -s specific.po | |
| 12:03 | destination dir must exist | |
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| 12:08 | * asgeirr | slaps Marianne around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 12:11 | eythian | went for Greek for lunch. They'd run out of gyro and tzatziki. Went for burgers instead. |
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| 12:24 | cait | eythian: so sad |
| 12:24 | kidclamp | morning |
| 12:25 | * magnuse | waves at the ghost of asgeirr |
| 12:27 | drojf | now i'm hungry :/ |
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| 12:38 | fridolin | whouuu, translation was breaking some datatables in fr-FR |
| 12:38 | most of the JS code is in PO and must be unchanged | |
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| 12:45 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:49 | kidclamp | morning tcohen |
| 12:49 | tcohen | hey kidclamp |
| 12:49 | wahanui | well, kidclamp is going to talk to the sponsors and see what they think |
| 12:50 | kidclamp | wahanui forget kidclamp |
| 12:50 | wahanui | kidclamp: I forgot kidclamp |
| 12:58 | drojf | anyone using sip2 with tls? |
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| 13:06 | Marianne | Thank you for your answers magnuse and vfernandes |
| 13:07 | vfernandes | bgkriegel_++ |
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| 13:25 | magnuse | drojf: tls? |
| 13:25 | eythian | drojf: catalyst had it with stunnel (we refused to let it go via the internet otherwise.) |
| 13:25 | Transport Layer Security | |
| 13:25 | Often slightly wrongly called SSL | |
| 13:25 | magnuse | why can't i get a patron attribute to show up in 3.22.7? |
| 13:25 | eythian: gotcha! | |
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| 13:28 | magnuse | because the patronn attribute wasn't saved in the first place... |
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| 13:59 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 14:00 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 14:01 | mveron | Fridolin: Regarding the French translation, I just filtered for printf() checks in Pootle, there are 47 fatal errors with missing / wrong %s |
| 14:02 | Hi drojf :-) | |
| 14:02 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 14:02 | fridolin | ich yes, we have to work on it |
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| 14:23 | barton | Out of curiosity, what does C4::Biblio::RemoveAllNsb do? The perldoc says "Removes all nsb/nse chars from a record", but I don't know what those are. |
| 14:24 | cait | i think non-filling stuff for unimarc |
| 14:24 | using characters for that instead of indicators | |
| 14:25 | barton | thanks cait! |
| 14:28 | dani says nsb is 'non-sorting begin' and thinks that nse is 'non-sorting end'. | |
| 14:28 | cait | yep |
| 14:28 | they sourround the words not to be sorted i think | |
| 14:28 | barton | Ahhhh. |
| 14:29 | did you catch that, huginn`? | |
| 14:29 | what is nsb | |
| 14:29 | cait | barton finding some examples with nsb nse unimarc |
| 14:29 | barton | nerp. |
| 14:29 | cait: I'm not sure I'm *that* curious. ;-) | |
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| 14:30 | cait | heh |
| 14:30 | hi paul_p | |
| 14:30 | barton | ... I was just looking at the arguments to tools/export.pl |
| 14:30 | paul_p | hi cait. |
| 14:30 | cait | how is copenhagen? :) |
| 14:30 | paul_p | ELAG2016 is over ! |
| 14:30 | cait | ohno |
| 14:31 | I saw your dinner picture with casper - what did he feed you there? | |
| 14:31 | paul_p | copenhagen is ... expensive... much much quiet than thessaloniki ... I won't compare the danish food to the greek food... |
| 14:31 | cait | heh |
| 14:32 | paul_p | cait it was skipper lobscouse. Something with veal meat & potatoes. |
| 14:32 | cait | doesn't sound too bad |
| 14:32 | paul_p | not bad. Just heavy food, not very tasty |
| 14:38 | LibraryClaire | the tweets I saw from the conference looked interesting |
| 14:42 | cait | yeah they did |
| 14:43 | bag | morning |
| 14:44 | LibraryClaire | hi bag |
| 14:44 | bag | heya LibraryClaire |
| 14:44 | wahanui | i think LibraryClaire is the monster under my bed |
| 14:45 | LibraryClaire | hah |
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| 15:02 | drojf | later #koha |
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| 15:30 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:59 | mveron | Bye #koha |
| 16:00 | LibraryClaire | laters #koha |
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| 16:07 | rocks | Hi folks, I just tried to install Koha on Ubuntu using Virtual Box and got this error message during the web-install https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]multiple&id=16664 |
| 16:07 | Any tips? | |
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| 17:10 | pianohacker | eythian: how hard would it be to search an arbitrary MARC field in the indexed record in ES? |
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| 18:47 | magnuse | pianohacker: good qustion. koha used to have that, i think |
| 18:54 | pianohacker | @later tell eythian how hard would it be to search an arbitrary MARC field in the indexed record in ES? |
| 18:54 | huginn` | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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| 20:01 | * cait | waves |
| 20:24 | eythian | pianohacker: good question. I don't think you can the way I set it up (aside from forming an index from it.) |
| 20:25 | I'm pretty sure that the record stuff isn't indexed. | |
| 20:25 | But it might be possible to index it so that an explicit search will find it, I'm not sure. | |
| 20:26 | Also, it's not stored in a search friendly form, you'd want to restructure it so it's searchable. | |
| 20:27 | pianohacker | eythian: https://www.elastic.co/guide/e[…]nested-query.html ? |
| 20:30 | eythian | Yeah, but I'm not sure if you need the field to be indexed for that to work, and it's probable indexes are turned off for record. |
| 20:30 | However searching record is a bad idea anyway. | |
| 20:31 | Because it's MARCJSON which is not a well structured form | |
| 20:31 | pianohacker | eythian: I agree with you |
| 20:32 | eythian | If you made another subfield that was say fields->tag->subfield structured, then yeah that'd work. |
| 20:33 | (I'm using subfield with two different definitions there.) | |
| 20:33 | pianohacker | oh, yeah, true, making something search the field-as-array structure of MARCJSON could be... tricky |
| 20:33 | eythian | Yep |
| 20:33 | Worthwhile if there's a good use case, definitely. | |
| 20:33 | pianohacker | there... might be. maybe :) |
| 20:33 | eythian | Would cost a fair bit more in storage I think. |
| 20:34 | pianohacker | that's what I was just thinking about |
| 20:34 | big-ass record with a million items... | |
| 20:34 | eythian | (but that might be OK, especially if it were optional which it could be.) |
| 20:35 | pianohacker | this has different, less terrifying tradeoffs as compared to the other option (ExtractValue-based MySQL searching) |
| 20:35 | bag | scary |
| 20:35 | eythian | Yeah for sure |
| 20:36 | You'd want to think about your tokenisation 🙂 | |
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| 21:17 | LibraryClaire | hi #koha |
| 21:18 | bag | hiya |
| 21:19 | LibraryClaire | :) |
| 21:27 | kidclamp | jajm could 16504 get added for 3.22? |
| 21:28 | bag | kind of late kidclamp |
| 21:28 | I think it’s almost 1030pm there | |
| 21:28 | kidclamp | ah |
| 21:28 | I am terrible at time zones | |
| 21:28 | bag | talljoy already called that title |
| 21:28 | kidclamp | @later tell jajm could 16504 get added for 3.22? |
| 21:28 | huginn` | kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:29 | talljoy | kidclamp you can't claim that |
| 21:29 | bag is right, that is my title | |
| 21:29 | nengard has 'bad at math' | |
| 21:29 | i have 'bad at timezones' | |
| 21:29 | kidclamp | I woke up at 3am to do something someone in CA asked me to do at 6am their time |
| 21:29 | I went back to bed very grumpy | |
| 21:29 | talljoy | HA |
| 21:29 | bag | HA |
| 21:30 | kidclamp | The only way they make sense to me is when I stop and picture the earth rotating from space, then I can kind of get it right |
| 21:30 | pianohacker | kidclamp: UTC, man :) |
| 21:30 | talljoy | those are not freedom hours pianohacker |
| 21:31 | pianohacker | I'm UTC-6, jajm is UTC+2 |
| 21:31 | talljoy: hmm, but where's the freedom meridian? | |
| 21:31 | DC? | |
| 21:31 | talljoy | HA |
| 21:31 | eythian | Statistically, through New Zealand |
| 21:32 | pianohacker | stay out of this, metric-user |
| 21:32 | talljoy | lol |
| 21:32 | pianohacker | you probably measure timezones in KILOMETERS |
| 21:32 | talljoy | sick |
| 21:32 | eythian | Although sometimes it gets switched with Scandinavia for a bit |
| 21:32 | pianohacker | we measure our freedom in HOGSHEADS |
| 21:32 | talljoy | and BUSHELS and PECKS |
| 21:32 | * talljoy | imagines a hogshead unit..... |
| 21:34 | eythian | It's a thing. |
| 21:34 | Because non metric is weird and bizarre | |
| 21:35 | Only used by crazy people, Liberia, and Myanmar | |
| 21:35 | talljoy | but free |
| 21:35 | heh | |
| 21:35 | except not free ironically | |
| 21:35 | wait... | |
| 21:36 | pianohacker | so free it uses whatever base it wants |
| 21:36 | base-12, base-10, base-1760 | |
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| 21:37 | kidclamp | everyone should have their utc listed on the wiki :b |
| 21:38 | LibraryClaire | I don't know what mine is half the time |
| 21:38 | kidclamp | and also talljoy, don't we all want to be like you? |
| 21:38 | talljoy | indeed you should. |
| 21:38 | kidclamp++ | |
| 21:39 | kidclamp knows how to butter up his coworkers. nicely done | |
| 21:39 | eythian | There's only one utc, that's the point. |
| 21:39 | LibraryClaire: droll :-) | |
| 21:39 | kidclamp | their relative adjustment to utc |
| 21:41 | LibraryClaire | ;) |
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| 22:47 | LibraryClaire | g'night #koha |
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