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| 02:56 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 02:56 | * Oak | waves |
| 02:57 | sjamso joined #koha | |
| 03:02 | sjamso | How do I change default username and password for koha. I installed koha but I am not able to login. I did chage the password in koha-conf.xml file though |
| 03:04 | Oak | I think you were supposed to log in using that username password in the xml file, and then create a new user in Koha, then grant that user super librarian access. |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 03:06 | sjamso | I tried that also but I was not able to login. So I change the password in the file and tried but still no luck |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | how can you not login? |
| 03:06 | do you see the login box? | |
| 03:07 | sjamso | ya.. I see that but cannot loogin with the username and password |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | and you are using user koha_instance |
| 03:07 | and the password in the koha-conf file? | |
| 03:07 | sjamso | ya |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | and you only have the one instance? |
| 03:08 | sjamso | I am using username and password in koha-conf.xml file |
| 03:08 | ya.. I got only one instance | |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | that really ought to work, there isn't a reason that it wouldn't |
| 03:10 | Oak | does is give an error message? |
| 03:10 | yup | |
| 03:10 | sjamso | I tried with koha_myinstancename with the password in koha-conf.xml file.. Still not working |
| 03:10 | Oak | Hello wizzyrea ! |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | hi Oak :) |
| 03:10 | Oak | :) |
| 03:11 | sjamso | It does not give any errors too. |
| 03:11 | wizzyrea | that sounds like the installer. |
| 03:11 | sjamso | username and password filed getting blank |
| 03:11 | wizzyrea | have you already installed Koha? |
| 03:11 | through the web installer? | |
| 03:12 | I'm sorry I have to run away now. | |
| 03:15 | sjamso | Actualling I am suppose to install through web installer. That didnt work. The url it shows is http://library.rim.edu.in:8080[…]taller/install.pl |
| 03:27 | koha page says.. Welcome to the Koha web installer. But I am not able to login | |
| 03:27 | What is the issue here | |
| 03:27 | wahanui | the issue here is that there are some advanced searches that don't work without query parser, but show up anyway (which strikes me as bad) |
| 03:28 | Oak | ignore wahanui, it's a bot. |
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| 07:05 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 07:27 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 07:27 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:27 | drojf | @wunder rome, italy |
| 07:27 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Largo di Torre Argentina, Roma, Italy is 8.6°C (8:21 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:28 | drojf | @wunder thessaloniki, greece |
| 07:28 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 12.0°C (9:20 AM EET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:28 | drojf | @wunder marseille, france |
| 07:28 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 6.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:35 | Mali_ joined #koha | |
| 07:35 | Mali_ | Hello to all i ahve a question about koha, Can we use koha as inventry system and how to change it |
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| 07:48 | Mali_ | reply |
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| 07:52 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:52 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
| 07:52 | magnuse joined #koha | |
| 07:53 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:57 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 07:58 | sophie_m joined #koha | |
| 07:59 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 07:59 | bonjour sophie_m | |
| 07:59 | sophie_m | hello magnuse |
| 08:00 | hi #koha | |
| 08:02 | magnuse | spring without marseille - it's starting to feel like something is missing... |
| 08:02 | @wunder boo | |
| 08:02 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:04 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:04 | wahanui | hello, alex_a |
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| 08:04 | drojf | magnuse: if only there were alternatives to bridge the gap until october ;) |
| 08:12 | matts | hi ! |
| 08:12 | you call -1°C spring ? :) | |
| 08:13 | magnuse | drojf: yeah, if only! ;-) |
| 08:13 | matts: no, not really :-) | |
| 08:15 | on the other hand, i found a norwegian online store that sells those peanut butter chocolates that bag usually brings with him | |
| 08:15 | and i can probably rustle up 10-20 types of french cheese in the local shops | |
| 08:16 | drojf | so you are doing your own homebrew marseille? |
| 08:16 | magnuse | starting ti think about it... |
| 08:18 | marcelr joined #koha | |
| 08:18 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:20 | drojf | hi marcelr |
| 08:21 | marcelr | hi drojf |
| 08:21 | drojf | marcelr: are you going to kohacon? |
| 08:21 | marcelr | yes that is the plan at least |
| 08:22 | drojf | cool! |
| 08:22 | marcelr | i would not like to miss europe kohacons |
| 08:23 | drojf | we should have them more often ;) |
| 08:24 | "We reached a milestone! 70 people have registered already! on 12 Feb 2016" | |
| 08:24 | from the kohacon website | |
| 08:25 | marcelr | do we also know how many are on the hackfest? |
| 08:25 | gaetan_B joined #koha | |
| 08:25 | drojf | i don't |
| 08:25 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:25 | wahanui | niihau, gaetan_B |
| 08:26 | marcelr | hi gaetan_B |
| 08:26 | drojf | but it looks like it may be a big kohacon |
| 08:27 | Francesca joined #koha | |
| 08:27 | drojf | oh marcelr, you should of course also come to berlin ;) |
| 08:27 | marcelr | yes it should ;) |
| 08:27 | drojf | cait is coming. more have not dared to say so yet |
| 08:27 | marcelr | cait is the closest |
| 08:28 | drojf | johann is closest. he is doing the catmandu workshop. from berlin state library ;) |
| 08:28 | marcelr | ok |
| 08:28 | drojf | and well, i can walk there, it's my office :D |
| 08:29 | but compared to the rest of the koha community, you are pretty close too :) | |
| 08:29 | marcelr | :) |
| 08:30 | * magnuse | is closer to berlin than to marseille |
| 08:30 | drojf | magnuse won't be able to resist a catmandu workshop at some point |
| 08:30 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 08:30 | * drojf | lures magnuse |
| 08:31 | drojf | @seen mveron |
| 08:31 | huginn | drojf: mveron was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 2 days, 22 hours, 6 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * mveron waves |
| 08:31 | drojf | need to send marc a spam email too, he is not too far away ;) |
| 08:35 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 08:35 | i have been to a catmandu workshop in hamburg (swib) but would probably not mind another one | |
| 08:37 | drojf | damn. norwegians, always one step ahead |
| 08:41 | magnuse | mohahaha |
| 08:42 | drojf | :) |
| 08:45 | berlin administration not only failed to move on from windows XP in time, they also have an estimate of 26000 computers with unsupported versions of IE as of today. berlin is awesome. | |
| 08:46 | magnuse | woohoo |
| 08:47 | my wife is also on xp at her work | |
| 08:47 | wahanui | okay, magnuse. |
| 08:50 | drojf1 joined #koha | |
| 08:50 | drojf | magnuse: scary. what does she do? |
| 08:52 | cait joined #koha | |
| 08:53 | magnuse | drojf: librarian at a hospital |
| 08:53 | kia ora cait! | |
| 09:07 | Francesca | hi |
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| 10:07 | kivilahtio | wow I notice we have a MARC::Moose::Record module in cpan |
| 10:07 | when is Koha migrating to that? | |
| 10:25 | * magnuse | waves to petter and kivilahtio |
| 10:25 | kivilahtio | long time no wave magnuse |
| 10:31 | petter | hei magnus! |
| 10:32 | magnuse | yeah, time flies |
| 10:32 | petter | hey olli! Longest time! |
| 10:36 | kivilahtio | petter: possibly |
| 10:36 | petter: we are cooking a lot of stuff! | |
| 10:36 | petter: we totally overhauled our Swagger2-driven Mojolicious REST API | |
| 10:36 | we made a suggested pattern for organizing the Swagger2-spec | |
| 10:37 | petter: https://renki.vaarakirjastot.fi/api/v1/doc/#/ | |
| 10:37 | it'' cool! | |
| 10:37 | drojf | have a nice weekend #koha |
| 10:39 | kivilahtio | petter: the spec is here |
| 10:39 | wahanui | i already had it that way, kivilahtio. |
| 10:39 | kivilahtio | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15126 |
| 10:39 | huginn | 04Bug 15126: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , REST API: Use newer version of Swagger2 |
| 10:40 | kivilahtio | petter: are you coming to KohaCon? |
| 10:41 | I am not so sure | |
| 10:41 | Extracting marc-fields to specific database columns took 6-7 times longer using Koha::Object than DBI | |
| 10:42 | for the shole database of 1.6 million bibs | |
| 10:42 | I have a Koha burnout | |
| 10:42 | I hope there is something wrong with our Koha::object configuration :) | |
| 10:42 | petter: but you are builidng cool stuff, like we | |
| 10:43 | petter: http://renki.pohjoiskarjala.ne[…]-label-editor.mp4 | |
| 10:43 | petter: how are you doing? | |
| 10:53 | Joubu | kivilahtio: Koha::Objects or DBIx::Class? ... |
| 10:54 | kivilahtio | Joubu: Koha::Object |
| 10:54 | wahanui | i think Koha::Object is way underdocumented, you should explain its purpose and how it should be used in the perldoc, otherwise no one else can meaningfully use it. |
| 10:54 | kivilahtio | wahanui: I dont think anoybody really know |
| 10:54 | wahanui | kivilahtio: i'm not following you... |
| 10:55 | Joubu | really know what? |
| 10:56 | kivilahtio: so you have compared Koha::Object vs DBIx::Class vs DBI | |
| 10:56 | kivilahtio | Joubu: Koha::Object vs DBI |
| 10:56 | Joubu: I am pushing new code to our GutHub today | |
| 10:56 | Joubu: I will tell you which cronjob it is | |
| 10:56 | Joubu | ok so it makes sense... |
| 10:56 | DBIx::Class > DBI it's expected | |
| 10:56 | kivilahtio | Joubu: you can super easily just choose from the script if you want to run in Koha:Object or DBI mode |
| 10:57 | Joubu: and drive NYTProf on them | |
| 10:57 | Joubu | submit on bugzilla instead |
| 10:57 | kivilahtio | Joubu: nope |
| 10:57 | Joubu: too much work to exract the feature, it wont merge to master anyway | |
| 10:58 | you can clone our KohaSuomi repo if you want :) | |
| 10:58 | Joubu: get amazed by our REST API and PageObject tests ;) | |
| 10:58 | Joubu | I am tracking origin/master, nothing else |
| 10:58 | kivilahtio | Joubu: too bad |
| 10:58 | Joubu: but it is good for you | |
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| 11:04 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 11:08 | petter | olli: sorry, got stuck in discussion, brb |
| 11:10 | kivilahtio | petter: its ok, I am taking care of a baby :) |
| 11:10 | Joubu: I just cant help but wonder what happens to all the batch operations in Koha when everything is under Koha::Object | |
| 11:11 | Koha::Object might get a speedup then | |
| 11:11 | the internals can be replaced with DBI :) | |
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| 12:50 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:52 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
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| 13:09 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 13:09 | i had a question for you | |
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| 13:10 | cait | we have librareis with only one branch requesting that we hide one of the library columns in the staff item table... but i failed to do that. now the next asked for it... do you have a moment? |
| 13:11 | oleonard | Sure |
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| 13:14 | cait | sec, tryin got see what i tried last time |
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| 13:17 | cait | ok, they want to hide current location - because location shows under home library |
| 13:21 | struggling a bit because my firebug stopped working | |
| 13:21 | oleonard | Which page? |
| 13:21 | wahanui | Which page is wrong? |
| 13:21 | cait | detail page in staff for a record with items |
| 13:23 | $(".items_table td:eq(1)").hide(); seems to hide half of it, but the same for th doesn't work? | |
| 13:25 | hm and once you activate the filters it gets a bit messy | |
| 13:26 | wahanui: forget which page | |
| 13:26 | wahanui | cait: I forgot which page |
| 13:28 | oleonard | I think its a conflict with the table structure which is generated by DataTables |
| 13:29 | cait | yeah it hink it's the datatable making it hard |
| 13:29 | it would b really nice to have the new columns config for th items table | |
| 13:29 | but probably hard | |
| 13:30 | a lot of the columns are optional | |
| 13:33 | kidclamp | cait: this may help - http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]-checkouts-table/ |
| 13:33 | cait | kidclamp: wow |
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| 13:34 | cait | thx, i will tkae a look at that! |
| 13:34 | the problem is, that we have no identifieres | |
| 13:35 | and with activate filters... it's adds another first column | |
| 13:35 | ... headache :) | |
| 13:35 | tcohen | morning! |
| 13:35 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
| 13:36 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
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| 13:36 | LibraryClaire | hi tcohen |
| 13:36 | * cait | waves |
| 13:36 | kidclamp | cait: yeah, it can be super annoying, we used css to help hide the checkin column on the issues table, that might mork, you just have to point to the right column number |
| 13:36 | tcohen | hi cait :-D |
| 13:36 | kidclamp | #issues-table thead th:nth-child(12), #issues-table tbody td:nth-child(12) { |
| 13:36 | display: none; | |
| 13:36 | } | |
| 13:36 | tcohen | khall: around? |
| 13:37 | kidclamp | I don't like counting columns, but what can you do |
| 13:38 | cait | write a patch to give ids to everything? ;) |
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| 13:39 | tcohen | cait++ # volunteering |
| 13:39 | oleonard | The more we load JS on top of things the more difficult it is for the end-user to customize. |
| 13:39 | cait | if i had the time i would id all the things :) |
| 13:39 | kidclamp: maybe something for hackfest :) | |
| 13:40 | kidclamp | oleonard:yeah sometimes I wish there were two userjs prefs: one before the koha scripts so you can stop or override them if you want, and one after so you can build on them |
| 13:40 | cait | trying to adapt your sample, unsuccessful so far... will continue |
| 13:40 | kidclamp | good idea cait, it's a nice intro patch just adding ids |
| 13:44 | cait | growls |
| 13:44 | not there yet. | |
| 13:48 | hm not getting this to work | |
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| 13:51 | kidclamp | trying to hide 'Current location' cait? |
| 13:51 | cait | yes |
| 13:52 | I thin i will declare it too error-prone - worried this is going to break with updates etc because we can't address the columns | |
| 13:54 | kidclamp | yeah, that's a bugger |
| 13:54 | cait | and have the extra features |
| 13:54 | like the filters | |
| 13:55 | oleonard | Tell them they have to shell out money for column configuration on that page :P |
| 13:55 | cait | hehe |
| 13:55 | a ood thought, but i have my doubts | |
| 13:56 | oleonard | Pretty soon all tables in Koha will look like this: http://blog.codinghorror.com/c[…]6d6311970b-pi.png |
| 13:56 | * cait | nos has to find "Tu" in the po files... wish me luck |
| 13:57 | cait | heh |
| 14:00 | we managed for the secnd time to get the week days wrong int the calendar widget :) | |
| 14:00 | 2 thursdays... in german now :) | |
| 14:10 | oleonard | So... It's not Friday in Germany, it's Thursday again? Bummer. |
| 14:13 | cait | nah thursday was yesterday |
| 14:13 | and ... the day after monday | |
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| 14:37 | tcohen | @later tell wizzyrea maybe I made a mistake creating the kohadevbox:ansible branch, but I needed it for my release manager duties, and for properly testing the plack integration into packages, without breaking the one everyone was already using |
| 14:37 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:52 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:52 | @seen tcohen | |
| 14:52 | huginn | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 29 seconds ago: <tcohen> @later tell wizzyrea maybe I made a mistake creating the kohadevbox:ansible branch, but I needed it for my release manager duties, and for properly testing the plack integration into packages, without breaking the one everyone was already using |
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| 14:53 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 14:54 | mtompset | Do you have a little time to discuss filters, hashes, and bug 11592? |
| 14:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 major, P3, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility |
| 14:54 | tcohen | shoot |
| 14:54 | (i don't, but lets try :-D) | |
| 14:55 | mtompset | Okay, if you look at the first splinter review on the bug and click over the opac-detail.pl |
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| 14:56 | mtompset | I get that you want to use filters... I think I might have something for the GetMarcBiblio call at the top. |
| 14:56 | The issue is that the $dat is a hash of the database tables. | |
| 14:56 | It isn't MARC at all. | |
| 14:56 | How do you recommend filtering that? | |
| 14:56 | Keep the ShouldHideMarc function? | |
| 14:57 | tcohen | i'd recommend that you focus on the filter, for MARC::Record objects |
| 14:57 | once it works, we'll figure how to best integrate it on the pipe | |
| 14:57 | but we need the filter pushed first | |
| 14:59 | mtompset | because the problem is the UI uses those template variable to display values which should be filtered, but aren't, because the $dat isn't the same kind of thing. |
| 14:59 | And that will be confusing for a tester. | |
| 15:01 | I'm thinking the opac/opac-detail template needs a serious refactor to clean it up. | |
| 15:01 | oleonard | Bug 12561 |
| 15:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12561 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Deprecate non-XSLT detail and result views |
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| 15:03 | francharb | Hi Koha! |
| 15:03 | Long time no see | |
| 15:03 | oleonard | Hi francharb, how's it going? |
| 15:03 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 15:04 | francharb | Hi oleonard, pretty well. You? |
| 15:04 | mtompset | Greetings, francharb oleonard |
| 15:04 | francharb | o/ mtompset |
| 15:04 | * Brooke | hugs francharb |
| 15:04 | mtompset | oleonard: Thanks for that link. |
| 15:04 | * francharb | hugs Brooke |
| 15:04 | * Brooke | tackles Ruth |
| 15:05 | * druthb | hugs Brooke |
| 15:05 | * francharb | hugs druthb |
| 15:05 | * druthb | hugs francharb. |
| 15:05 | francharb | :) |
| 15:05 | * Brooke | passes out <3 cookies. |
| 15:05 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb Brooke |
| 15:06 | Brooke | howdy mtompset |
| 15:06 | mtompset | Were they made with a sugar substitute and less than 1 net carb? ;) |
| 15:06 | oleonard | I'm doing well francharb, thanks |
| 15:06 | francharb | :) |
| 15:07 | Brooke | No but they have a suspicious .js 22meg package ;) |
| 15:08 | oleonard | francharb: if you came to #koha curious to see how we're doing without, the answer is terrible. |
| 15:08 | Without you, that is. | |
| 15:08 | francharb | :) |
| 15:08 | oleonard | Same for you druthb |
| 15:09 | druthb | Aw! |
| 15:10 | oleonard | I just feel like if maybe francharb and druthb were still around I would be able to tag a book in the OPAC with an emoji of a pile of poo and it would work. |
| 15:10 | francharb | Now I feel bad connecting just to ask my question |
| 15:10 | ahah | |
| 15:10 | lol | |
| 15:10 | Brooke | as long as you felt guilty of your own initiative, you'll keep contributing to project ;P |
| 15:11 | druthb | see, oleonard, you may be right. I'm all about adding Unicode compliance *everywhere*. |
| 15:11 | francharb | that's what druthb and me make you think about, an emoji of a pile of poo? oleonard |
| 15:11 | ;) | |
| 15:11 | oleonard | francharb: No, I'm just obsessed with Bug 15794 |
| 15:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow the use of emojis as tags on records |
| 15:12 | mtompset | druthb: Thanks for the reminder. I want to test if I could set my password to 💩💩💩 |
| 15:12 | For testing unicode compliance, of course. :) | |
| 15:13 | Brooke | hehehe |
| 15:13 | if you wanna test unicode compliance I could try and fish up some tasty filthy CKJ data for you | |
| 15:13 | and I mean FILTHY | |
| 15:14 | mtompset | No, it's okay. |
| 15:14 | Brooke | thought you'd see the light :P |
| 15:15 | mtompset | Strangely, it let me set it, though it displays it as 6 characters instead of 3 when entering it. |
| 15:16 | * Brooke | misses her super sekrit boyfriend Beau |
| 15:17 | francharb | emojs as tags! sounds fun!! |
| 15:18 | I realised lately that 'J' was the windows emoji for :) | |
| 15:18 | Brooke | 🐈 |
| 15:18 | francharb | I was reading emails and keep asking myself, why is there J everywhere |
| 15:19 | mtompset | Brooke: You triggered a musical flashback. :) https://youtu.be/xtolv9kM1qk |
| 15:19 | Brooke | yee haw! |
| 15:19 | I kin listen to that raght thar while lookin' over mah ASERL BBQ guide | |
| 15:20 | http://www.lib.ua.edu/aserl-bbq/ | |
| 15:20 | ^^^^^^ total #fail academics. 1 joint in the great commonwealth of virginia? THIS CANNOT STAND. | |
| 15:21 | * oleonard | has now forgotten what he was working on |
| 15:21 | mtompset | "What do Librarians Know about Barbecue?" - that's a nice description. :) |
| 15:21 | cait | francharb: what was your question? |
| 15:21 | francharb | oleonard, me too! |
| 15:22 | cait, what up? | |
| 15:22 | ah thanks | |
| 15:22 | cait | and hi :) |
| 15:22 | francharb | does relevance ranking works in 3.20? |
| 15:22 | cait | ew |
| 15:23 | francharb | ahah |
| 15:23 | I kno | |
| 15:23 | I read about it on the mailing list and zebra documentation | |
| 15:23 | cait | hm i sometimes refer to this, but not sure how well it covers the topic http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]elevance-in-koha/ |
| 15:23 | francharb | I read this too |
| 15:24 | but the thing is, on my installations, records are always ordered by biblionumber when I order by relevance | |
| 15:24 | I enable the queryweighfield syspref | |
| 15:25 | cait | marc21? |
| 15:25 | wahanui | i guess marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html |
| 15:25 | francharb | I checked the rank option in the zebra configuration file |
| 15:25 | yes cait | |
| 15:25 | marc21 | |
| 15:25 | cait | hm |
| 15:25 | i think some of the prefs don't work well | |
| 15:25 | try to turn off autotruncate | |
| 15:28 | hm and also stemming | |
| 15:28 | francharb | cait, you nailed it! It was autotruncate |
| 15:28 | I tried the other one (stemming, etc) | |
| 15:28 | * cait | nods |
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| 15:28 | francharb | but for whatever reason, haven't tried this one |
| 15:29 | Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| 15:29 | cait | np |
| 15:29 | i ran into the same.... and just discovered the library turned it back on *sigh* | |
| 15:29 | Brooke | Cait is always right, never wrong. |
| 15:30 | cait | that would amke me really scary... thankfully it#s totally not true |
| 15:30 | Brooke | I suspect a close shared common ancestor with Galen. >.> <.< |
| 15:32 | oleonard | Brooke: She can't be *that* closely related to gmcharlt, she doesn't have any cats. |
| 15:32 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 15:39 | cait | oleonard: but i like cats ): |
| 15:39 | :) | |
| 15:39 | gmcharlt | cait++ |
| 15:39 | cait | but as single person with a small apartment that's not really an option at the moment :) |
| 15:41 | * druthb | agrees with Brooke--cait is always right. :) |
| 15:41 | cait | hmpf |
| 15:41 | druthb | :P |
| 15:50 | francharb | Let's make a FAQ called "Cait" |
| 15:50 | ;) | |
| 15:50 | Then we could say for any question, have you checked Cait? | |
| 15:50 | ;) | |
| 15:51 | I just hope my broken english is not innapropriate | |
| 15:51 | :) | |
| 15:55 | Joubu | francharb: try adding some more smileys ;) |
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| 16:01 | francharb | (^L^) |
| 16:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:17 | mtompset | francharb: Sorry, I was looking in another window. Your play on words was just fine. :) |
| 16:18 | medo | hi all - i'm looking for some guidance on server specs for koha. the only thing i've seen so far is the requirements on the download page https://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
| 16:18 | i'm setting up a vm to try it out on, and not sure how much to allocate | |
| 16:18 | mtompset | medo: allocate what? disk space? memory? |
| 16:19 | How big is your test data? | |
| 16:19 | Are you going to be lazy and call it production after you finish doing this? :) | |
| 16:19 | Because more is always good. :) | |
| 16:20 | medo | haha no, definitely not production |
| 16:20 | but i would like to eventually test it with our full collection, 650k bibs, 2M items. maybe a few hundred clients | |
| 16:20 | mtompset | Okay, for tinkering around you can probably get away with 32GB (it's a nice round number) drive, and at least 1GB RAM. |
| 16:20 | Oh, testing THAT size.... | |
| 16:21 | medo | but yes, i don't know much about setting up the vm, so i'm looking for some good numbers to give our sysadmin |
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| 16:21 | medo | eventually. i'd probably start much smaller, but i'd rather only set it up once |
| 16:21 | mtompset | 256GB drive space (I'm totally guessing at this), 4GB Ram. |
| 16:23 | Though, like I said more is always good. | |
| 16:25 | medo | thanks. i'm curious as to what other people are using - is there anything published on server specs for library/collection size? |
| 16:28 | mtompset | A base install, you get 5GB drive... 2M items @ 1K each = 2GB * 6 (because Zebra is a pig, and mysql [3[zeb]+2[mysql]+1[data itself]]) = 12GB. -- Okay, what about circulation numbers? |
| 16:28 | Because lots of circulation needs more drive space. | |
| 16:30 | But I've seen item entries a lot longer than 1K. | |
| 16:31 | You might be able to get your 2M on a 64GB.... but I'd be worried about running out of diskspace for circulation. | |
| 16:32 | Joubu | bag, khall: do you have a push session planned soon? |
| 16:32 | medo | circ done on the test? probably not much. if i can import with the history, maybe 1.5M circs a year |
| 16:32 | bag | yes Joubu |
| 16:33 | medo | maybe 400k borrowers |
| 16:33 | mtompset | Wow. |
| 16:33 | Joubu | bag: ok great to hear that :) |
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| 16:46 | pianohacker_DND | Joubu: any reason I shouldn't QA bug 11844? |
| 16:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11844 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Additional fields for order lines |
| 16:47 | cait | hm you haven't written or signed off |
| 16:47 | so why are you asking? :) | |
| 16:47 | pianohacker_DND | cait: because of bug 15744 |
| 16:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15744 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, GlobalSys: UsageStatsLibraryType German Text 2x "Firmenbibliothek" |
| 16:47 | pianohacker_DND | bug 15774 |
| 16:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Additional fields for baskets |
| 16:47 | pianohacker_DND | that one |
| 16:47 | cait | a similar feature, but not the same |
| 16:48 | pianohacker_DND | coolio macaroni |
| 16:48 | cait | I think i tmight even be good |
| 16:48 | because we should aim for some consistenc | |
| 16:48 | y | |
| 16:48 | with these features | |
| 16:52 | pianohacker_DND | cait: bug 15774 does bring that in; centralized admin screen, factoring out of code, etc etc; thus why Joubu asked for a rebase |
| 16:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Additional fields for baskets |
| 16:53 | pianohacker_DND | cait: I was gonna QA it to keep things movin, since I know you're busy atm |
| 16:53 | cait | just don't push if you qa ok? :) |
| 16:53 | pianohacker_DND | yar yar |
| 16:54 | that's my big red bag button is for | |
| 16:54 | sorry, big red bug bag button | |
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| 16:56 | cait | time for weekend - bye all :) |
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| 17:02 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:05 | * oleonard | doesn't want to see what is in pianohacker_DND's bug bag. |
| 17:31 | oleonard | 'Go to the admin page, the "Additional parameters" area should now have the link "SMS cellular providers"' |
| 17:31 | Oh, only if I set the SMSSendDriver preg. | |
| 17:31 | pref. | |
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| 18:12 | oleonard | "Are you sure you want..." 87 matches. "Are you sure you wish..." 3 matches. |
| 18:13 | Perhaps we should throw in, "Is it your true desire to..." or "Have you really thought through your decision to..." | |
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| 18:34 | zsolt | Hi, is there an option to connect my library to other libraries< |
| 18:41 | Joubu | @later tell pianohacker please do! :) |
| 18:41 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:41 | Joubu | sorry for the lag, but big cold, I not really around... |
| 18:42 | Have a great week-end #koha! | |
| 18:52 | oleonard | zsolt: What do you mean by connect? |
| 18:52 | magnuse | hope you feel better soon, Joubu! |
| 18:54 | zsolt | If somebody searching in a koha library (not mine) to get results from my koha library too? |
| 18:56 | oleonard | That might be possible if Bug 10486 can be made to work, but it's not possible now. |
| 18:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC |
| 18:59 | zsolt | thank you |
| 19:15 | tcohen | #koha: have a nice weekend everone |
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| 19:33 | mtompset | When did English become a core perl module? |
| 19:39 | oleonard | ? |
| 19:40 | mtompset | oleonard: Just checking if I needed to change PerlDependencies or not, in case it was a newer version of perl. :) |
| 19:40 | instead of $@ (for example) | |
| 19:40 | $EVAL_ERROR | |
| 19:40 | if there is a use English; | |
| 19:41 | makes code more readable and get higher level of perlcritic. ;) | |
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| 20:03 | mtompset | Wow. My connection is flaky! |
| 20:03 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 20:49 | kidclamp_dnd | anyone know, is C4 barcodes just dead code? |
| 20:49 | mtompset | Not last time I checked, but I could be mis-remembering. :) |
| 20:50 | kidclamp | so it's just broken then :-) |
| 20:50 | mtompset | PDF stuff in Koha is rather poor at this time. :) |
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| 21:10 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen |
| 21:11 | If I improved the perlcritic level of test, should I put the patch on bug 6679, or create a new bug, and put a depends on? | |
| 21:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
| 21:14 | * tcohen | doesn't like patches that are too general |
| 21:14 | means bugs | |
| 21:14 | tcohen | depend |
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| 21:49 | cait | kidclamp: hm it's not dead |
| 21:49 | kidclamp: and should not be broken... | |
| 21:50 | you usually need at least one fitting barcode for it to work in your database | |
| 21:50 | catalog the first item manually and then if it does not work... it's broken :) | |
| 21:58 | tcohen | hm, barcode generators are good candidates for the plugin system |
| 22:03 | kidclamp | it's broken cait |
| 22:04 | cait | hmm |
| 22:04 | kidclamp | at least for annual, the sql to get the max does a MAX and a GROUP BY and unpairs the correct values |
| 22:04 | same for hbyymmdd | |
| 22:04 | cait | hm weird |
| 22:04 | there are tests for the module i think | |
| 22:05 | tests seem ok still perl t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t | |
| 22:05 | is it only broken in acq or also in cataloguing? | |
| 22:07 | kidclamp | looks like the tests don't actually write to the db |
| 22:07 | cait | we have broken them a couple of times already |
| 22:07 | and fixed | |
| 22:08 | if you look at bugzilla | |
| 22:08 | pretty annoying | |
| 22:08 | kidclamp | I don't think anything actually uses them, the plugins use ValueBuilder.pm |
| 22:08 | which says it should use Barcodes.pm | |
| 22:08 | it's only when you have more then one matchign value in the db that they are broken | |
| 22:09 | you can see the queries in ValueBuilder.pm and Barcodes::annual.pm don't match | |
| 22:09 | cait | hm there is a C4:Barcodes in additem.pl |
| 22:09 | kidclamp | but it doesn't use next_value, it has it's own increment function |
| 22:10 | cait | it doesn't seem to show up in context of Seirals or acq |
| 22:10 | kidclamp | and it does it's ownfetch to find the highest value or it only builds off of what is passed |
| 22:11 | cait | i think i can't follow - it's a bit too late here |
| 22:12 | kidclamp | me too, I lost far too mich time debugging my code before figuringout (or convincing myself) that the Barcodes module is the problem |
| 22:12 | :-) | |
| 22:13 | cait | maybe try with fresh eyes on monday? |
| 22:13 | time for a weekend? :) | |
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| 22:14 | kidclamp | indeed! 🍻 |
| 22:14 | 🍺 | |
| 22:14 | have a good weekend cait! | |
| 22:14 | cait | you too :) |
| 22:20 | * pianohacker_DND | wishes that MARC fields couldn't contain a-z |
| 22:23 | pianohacker_DND | s/field/tag numbers/ |
| 22:26 | mtompset | MARC fields can contain letters? |
| 22:26 | I thought only subfields could do that. | |
| 22:26 | Are you sure, pianohacker_DND? | |
| 22:27 | pianohacker_DND | mtompset, yes, unfortunately. |
| 22:27 | It's really rare, but there is 01e | |
| 22:27 | and given that it's MARC, I didn't feell safe not supporting that in RAncor | |
| 22:28 | mtompset | What?! |
| 22:28 | pianohacker_DND | marc-- |
| 22:29 | mtompset | 01e?! Where's the definition? |
| 22:29 | pianohacker_DND | it's in the framework, at least |
| 22:29 | @marc 01e | |
| 22:29 | huginn | pianohacker_DND: unknown tag 01e |
| 22:30 | mtompset | I think this might be a MARCXML extension. |
| 22:32 | pianohacker_DND | entirely possible |
| 22:32 | but ISO 2709 is, as far as I know, the only thing that limits valid tag/subfield codes, and it just says alphanumeric | |
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| 22:35 | mtompset | http://www.loc.gov/standards/m[…]ma/MARC21slim.xsd |
| 22:36 | norbertDD | cait *help* my z39 search doesnt work :/ where i can find logs find the problem |
| 22:36 | mtompset | "This schema supports XML markup of MARC21 records as specified in the MARC documentation (see www.loc.gov). It allows tags with alphabetics and subfield codes that are symbols, neither of which are as yet used in the MARC 21 communications formats, but are allowed by MARC 21 for local data." |
| 22:40 | pianohacker_DND | ...symbols? |
| 22:41 | cait | yes |
| 22:42 | * mtompset | smirks. |
| 22:43 | mtompset | I wonder if $💩 is valid. ;) |
| 22:43 | pianohacker_DND | You put that in Rancor, you get undefined behavior |
| 22:44 | undefined behavior may include but is not limited to a hand reaching out of the screen and flicking you on the nose | |
| 22:44 | cait | i think it depends on the docs you read |
| 22:44 | i just found one that says lowercase alphabetic and numeric | |
| 22:44 | mtompset | cait: probably true. |
| 22:47 | cait | pianohacker_DND: http://www.loc.gov/marc/specif[…]specrecstruc.html |
| 22:48 | pianohacker_DND | waaaaait |
| 22:48 | cait | Data element identifiers defined in MARC 21 may be any ASCII lowercase alphabetic or numeric character. In general, numeric identifiers are defined for data used to process the field, or coded data needed to interpret the field. Alphabetic identifiers are defined for the separate elements which constitute the data content of the field. The character 9 and the following ASCII graphic symbols are reserved for local definition as data element identifi |
| 22:48 | ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / : ; < = > ? { } _ ^ ` ~ [ ] \ | |
| 22:48 | pianohacker_DND | "uppercase or lowercase, but not both"? |
| 22:49 | cait | strictly speaking uppercase is not allowed.... but it works |
| 22:49 | and i'd prefer them over ! | |
| 22:53 | pianohacker_DND | cait: what are you quoting? |
| 22:53 | cait | the document linked |
| 22:54 | pianohacker_DND | which part? Because I think it's self-contradictory |
| 22:54 | cait | i think it says those are for local use... but it's confusing :) |
| 22:55 | pianohacker_DND | very |
| 22:56 | cait | night all :) |
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| 23:07 | mtompset | Try not to go insance, pianohacker_DND :) |
| 23:08 | insane. | |
| 23:08 | Can't type. :P | |
| 23:08 | Have a great weekend, #koha pianohacker_DND rocio | |
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| 23:50 | barton | ok, I'm forsaking the land of Koha, and heading for the land of Beer. or something. Have a nice weekend! |
| 23:50 | woops, wrong channel. | |
| 23:51 | have a nice weekend anyway :-) | |
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